Errors-To: owner-tmbg-digest@tmbg.org Reply-To: tmbg-digest@tmbg.org Sender: owner-tmbg-digest@tmbg.org Precedence: bulk From: owner-tmbg-digest@tmbg.org To: tmbg-digest@tmbg.org Subject: tmbg-list Digest #2-275 tmbg-list Digest, Volume 2, Number 275 Tuesday, 8 October 1996 Today's Topics: TMBG Weekend!!! Re: L vs F The Refreshments (tmbg sighting...er...hearing) AUCTION: TMBG / Joshua Fried split 7" SEXXY Release Date This Car is protected by Viper Re:Santa Re: cage&aquarium; messed up face-worst enemy Release date for Factory Showroom (In Cambridge, MA) Re: This Car is protected by Viper yikes! what happened to UP? Vinyl question FS comments and others Re:Santa + Xenia + A big long speech by me Re: cage&aquarium; messed up face-worst enemy Re: Track 0 - Token Back to Brooklyn JLC is a woman Re: FS comments and others Re: yikes! what happened to UP? Spellings of Elektra Re: The Refreshments (tmbg sighting...er...hearing) Re: oooh, secret tracks. Re: Super-Size Re: cage&aquarium; messed up face-worst enemy Re: FS comments and others S-E-X-X-Y hello everyone! Edison Recording Sessions! =) Re: oooh, secret tracks. Chords/stuff... THoughts on FS (what else?) Help Again! Hello As I Am Already A Hated Figure FS Joy, SF, Brooms and Johns fantasies Re: oooh, secret tracks. real audio sites TMBG page updated. Re: hello everyone! Re: TMBG page updated. Re: tmbg-list Digest #2-274 hello everyone! Re: tmbg-list Digest #2-274 Re: Super-Size John L., tracks and S.E.X.X.Y Re: TMBG page updated. whoa....secret tracks! 15 minutes Re: Token Back Re: FS Joy, SF, Brooms and Johns fantasies Re: John L., tracks and S.E.X.X.Y Re: Token Back Re: FS Joy, SF, Brooms and Johns fantasies Re: Token Back Administrivia: For all administrative issues, such as change of address, withdrawal from the list, etc., send a message to the following address: tmbg-digest-request@tmbg.org --------------------------------------------------------------------- The views expressed herein are those of the individual authors. --------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tom Hare Subject: TMBG Weekend!!! Date: Sun, 6 Oct 96 23:12:26 18000 Wow. This was a pretty damn freaking smooth TMBG weekend for me! I got to go to 2 (Well, 1 and a tenth really) Live shows by They, one friday and one saturday, and today from 9-10 the DJ guy on the radio did a World Promo etc. crap thingy on Factory Showroom, where he played SEXXY, Exquisite Dead Guy, James K. Polk, And ummmm something else... Oh yes New York City. Unfortunately, I didn't hear anything new on the show. But, at the 1st concert I heard XTC vs. Adam Ant, How Can I Sing Like A Girl, New York City, the new James K. Polk, Older, Until My Head Falls Off, and Metal Detector for the first time. Although, Metal Detector was only heard through a big door in the stairwell while TMBG were warming up. And we got to say "hi" and "Great show last night" to the Johns and before that the bass & drummer, I forget the names. And I met new people, like Adam, and a bunch of ppl from my hometown who were at Jax that I didn't meet here, oddly enough. All in all, a VERY TMBG-full weekend, except the cancelled Jax show. Where they WOULD have played Your Own Worst Enemy, and TMBG got Lost, if they had not cancelled. :( That's very sad, but at least it stopped my ribs from being powderized. OK enough out of me!! -- *----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Tom Hare - Exquisite Dead Guy, Outside My High Rise Apartment - TMBG tomhare@freenet3.scri.fsu.edu particle_man@tmbg.org hare@tmbg.org *----------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 Oct 1996 04:38:22 -0400 (EDT) From: Amy Subject: Re: L vs F Some guy named Matthew James wrote: > I have a theory concerning who writes better songs. Since many > people seem to like Linnell's songs more than Flansburgh's I have > come to the conclusion that the reason for this may be because > Linnell plays more instruments. [snip] > I would think the better grasp you have on each > instrument as well as actually experimenting with that instrument > would cause the writer to write a better song. Well, I can personally attest to this. Not that I've ever written a song for instruments such as the Johns might write for, but as a music major I've had to do my share of writing and especially arranging music. Now, the choral majors always complained about this, even though they had better keyboard knowledge. But knowing how to play 3 instruments well and 3 or 4 others a bit was much easier! So I can agree with Matt's thinking on this. I've also noticed something else. John and John seem to have some sort of thing for Santa Claus....I mean, granted it's not a big thing but between TMBG and Mono Puff there are two songs that include the character of Santa as opposed to other bands which never use him. Just something I was thinking the other night really late, when I was tired and not sleeping. Feel free to comment, etc. And I must add that I visited tmbg.com the other day, and was immediately impressed by the cow! Cows are the greatest. Now if only the site would stop making Netscape shut down.....:) Here's hoping for a successful recovery of John L. and a quick return to Ohio, without Hootie and outrageous ticket prices! Amy :) cowtown@tmbg.org There are two major products to come out of Berkeley: LSD and UNIX. We don't believe this to be a coincidence. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 Oct 1996 01:47:58 -0700 From: Z Subject: The Refreshments (tmbg sighting...er...hearing) Hey guys, If anyone's remotely interested: I saw The Refreshments at the Edge in Palo Alto, CA tonight, and they played Minimum Wage on the PA as they walked out on stage. It sorta took me by surprise, but I talked to the lead singer after the show and he aparently loooves TMBG... So hats off to another TMBG-friendly band...(plus, The Refreshments *rock* too if you've never seen 'em) That's all folks... -Z *-------------------------------------------------- Z i a d O. E z z a t Bassist * Singer * Songwriter * Swell Guy San Jose State University * Dept of Economics U S O U T O F N O R T H A M E R I C A ziad@hooked.net * http://www.hooked.net/users/ziad "Love is a many splintered thing"--Andrew Eldritch "Such sweet compulsion doth in music lie"-- Milton *-------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ From: bradley wilson jiulianti Date: Mon, 7 Oct 96 06:16:51 -0400 Subject: AUCTION: TMBG / Joshua Fried split 7" OK, I'm not on this list so please direct queries to me personally and don't trouble people on the list with your bids. I have up for auction the following item: TMBG / Joshua Fried split 7" it is on Steel Garden Records it says a product of Ferro-Botanica Magazine The TMBG songs are: 1) (Put Your Hand Inside The) Puppet Head 2:04 2) Number Three 1:35 3) The Day 1:20 The Joshua Fried Songs are: 1) Insane => Joshua solo 4:43 2) Aria: "Cherry Hill Mall" from _Camden 3:15 An American Musical Tragedy_ => Josh and Iris Rose It has no picture sleeve merely a white sleeve that is signed by the four members of the backing band. It is in NM condition. the catalog # is: 10-3SH-6085 and it was released in 1986. It is on Black Vinyl. I am starting bidding at $20 and will end bidding Monday, Oct. 14th at Midnight. All who bid will be informed via email of the status of their bid for the duration of the auction. Thanks, Brad ------------------------------ From: "BOBA" Organization: anubis Date: Mon, 7 Oct 1996 08:07:56 EST Subject: SEXXY Release Date I have just recieved information from CDnow that said that Elextra will be releasing SEXXY on Oct. 22. This is a change from the second 'original' release date of Oct. 15. -Matthew Ondrey "Matt, you're a very insightful person, but get your fucking face out of my oatmeal." - My sister, Lisa "Call Out The Undertaker!" - ThEy MiGhT bE gIaNtS boba@tmbg.org http://192.204.127.105/CPTsm96/MJO5733/dog2.htm ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 Oct 1996 08:28:42 -0400 (EDT) From: Joshua Hall-Bachner Subject: This Car is protected by Viper >The lyrics probably won't be printed for that song. If the "super-sized" isn't >trademarked, "Viper" most definately is, referring to the car alarms. This is getting ridiculous. When it was just a verse here or there missing, it was okay. Even when a whole song got left out of the JH liner, I dealt with it. But what's this? This album is going to be missing the lyrics to three songs! (NYC, ICHY, and UMHFA) I don't see why they can't just substitute some other word for the trademarked word when they print it, and only sing the correct lyrics. Re: Token Back To Brooklyn >But why keep it a secret though? And as someone else asked, how many CDs >are doing this? Who knows what we may be missing out on. AFAIK, the very first CD ever to include a track hidden in this manner was Songs In The Key of X, the X-Files Soundtrack, which boasted the cryptic announcement "Nick Cave [and his band] would like to remind you that 0 is also a number." I am only aware of one other album since then which has also used this trick, Better Than Ezra's _Friction Baby_. /---------------------------Joshua Hall-Bachner---------------------------\ | particle@servtech.com http://www.servtech.com/public/particle/ | | "The few surviving samurai survey the battlefield. They count the arms, | \--the legs, the heads, and then divide by five." - They Might Be Giants--/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 Oct 1996 08:18:40 -0500 (CDT) From: jeremy pokela Subject: Re:Santa Amy wrote- > I've also noticed something else. John and John seem to have some sort of > thing for Santa Claus....I mean, granted it's not a big thing but between > TMBG and Mono Puff there are two songs that include the character of Santa > as opposed to other bands which never use him. Just something I was > thinking the other night really late, when I was tired and not sleeping. > Feel free to comment, etc. Another artist who uses the character of St. Nick (or the idead of christmas) more than once is "Wierd Al" Yankovic, the songs being "The night Santa went crazy" and "Christmas at Ground Zero" bot are funny as hell. You can find them on Bad Hair Day and Dare to be Stupid (I think) respectively. Jeremy Pokela Liberal(US style)/Socialist jpokela@d.umn.edu "I've got this one problem where I live forever, and still I've got no time to think." -Bad Religion ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 Oct 1996 10:30:16 -0400 (EDT) From: Robert Mootrey u Subject: Re: cage&aquarium; messed up face-worst enemy Well, there is the song "Aquarius" from the musical Hair.(from like 1969 or something?) It says "This is the dawning of the age of Aquarius" etc. I think that is what They allude to in "Cage and Aquarium" when they say "This is the spawning of the cage and aquarium". -Sean. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 Oct 1996 10:37:07 -0400 From: gonzalez@vitaliy.harvard.edu (David Gonzalez) Subject: Release date for Factory Showroom (In Cambridge, MA) Mornin' people, I just called HMV in Harvard Square and they said that it would be available to buy tomorrow morning. I called Strawberries Music and they said it wasn't going to be released for another couple of weeks! I wonder where I'll buy Factory Showroom at? HMV or Strawberries? Hmmmmmmm........ drg ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 07 Oct 1996 11:00:52 -0400 From: John Drauss Subject: Re: This Car is protected by Viper Joshua Hall-Bachner wrote: > > >The lyrics probably won't be printed for that song. If the "super-sized" isn't > >trademarked, "Viper" most definately is, referring to the car alarms. > > This is getting ridiculous. When it was just a verse here or there missing, > it was okay. Even when a whole song got left out of the JH liner, I dealt > with it. But what's this? This album is going to be missing the lyrics to > three songs! (NYC, ICHY, and UMHFA) I don't see why they can't just > substitute some other word for the trademarked word when they print it, and > only sing the correct lyrics. > > Re: Token Back To Brooklyn > > >But why keep it a secret though? And as someone else asked, how many CDs > >are doing this? Who knows what we may be missing out on. > > AFAIK, the very first CD ever to include a track hidden in this manner was > Songs In The Key of X, the X-Files Soundtrack, which boasted the cryptic > announcement "Nick Cave [and his band] would like to remind you that 0 is > also a number." I am only aware of one other album since then which has also > used this trick, Better Than Ezra's _Friction Baby_. Actually, there's a ton of albums that have this 0 track. It was probably two years ago when I found out about them. They were all on my ambient cd's though, and the tracks were usually really long, between 10-20 min. This is nothing new, but new tracks are always exciting to discover. john > /---------------------------Joshua Hall-Bachner---------------------------\ > | particle@servtech.com http://www.servtech.com/public/particle/ | > | "The few surviving samurai survey the battlefield. They count the arms, | > \--the legs, the heads, and then divide by five." - They Might Be Giants--/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 07 Oct 1996 10:13:26 -0500 (CDT) From: Tara Lynne Weber <00085244@bigred.unl.edu> Subject: yikes! what happened to UP? Hey, all you Utopia Parkway telnet talker people--is anyone else having trouble getting on there lately? As of today, whenever I try to log on, it thinks I'm a new user, asks me to enter my password again, and then says something like "can't add you to password file" and closes the connection. Did the talker get shut down? I know there was talk about that. I hope that's not what happened. Anyway, sorry 'bout that. OK, TMBG content....let's see.....oh yeah, I downloaded that "I am not your broom" clip the other day. Wacky. :) Go see it if you haven't already. :) --Tara *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* * Tara Weber | "eVeRy jUMbLeD PiLe oF peRSoN hAs a * * 00085244@bigred.unl.edu| tHiNKiNg paRt tHaT woNdeRs wHat tHe paRt * * Ondine@tmbg.org | tHaT isN't tHiNkinG iSn't tHiNKiNg oF." * * | --tHeY MiGhT bE giAnTS * *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*http://members.tripod.com/~TaraW-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* ------------------------------ From: Kaylum@aol.com Date: Mon, 7 Oct 1996 12:24:37 -0400 Subject: Vinyl question Hey, I've been thinking about ordering some TMBG on vinyl, especially the big albums 'cause I think they'd look great mounted on my wall, and I was wondering if any of you who have any They stuff on vinyl could help me decide which one to get first. I'd like to know if the vinyl albums (or singles) have any little "extras" that don't come with the cds or cassettes. An e-mail friend of mine who managed to find the Pink album on vinyl said the sleeve has picture of Linnell with a big hat, and I've heard of cryptic messages carved into the vinyl, so does anyone know about anything else? Does Lincoln have anyFrom owner-tmbg-list Mon Oct 7 12:25:35 1996 Received: (root@localhost) by ussodyssey.ufp.org (8.7.5/8.7.ufp) id MAA16926 for tmbg-list-outgoing; Mon, 7 Oct 1996 12:25:35 -0400 From: KdsInThHal@aol.com Date: Mon, 7 Oct 1996 12:24:52 -0400 Message-ID: <961007122450_120630250@emout08.mail.aol.com> To: tmbg-list@tmbg.org Subject: oooh, secret tracks. Sender: owner-tmbg-list Precedence: bulk Reply-To: KdsInThHal@aol.com >>But why keep it a secret though? And as someone else asked, how many CDs are doing this? Who knows what we may be missing out on.<< It's kinda cool when you know it's a secret. I dunno. It just seems "better that waaaayyy..." Like lemme see. Cd's with secret 'tracks' (but not really seperate tracks, you have to scan forward) at the end: Nirvana's "Nevermind;" Beck's "Mellow Gold;" Sonic Youth's "Expierimental Jet Set, Trash and No Star;" Shadowy Men On A Shadowy Planet's "Sport Fishin'," um, oh, the most popular one known for this (and I'm ashamed to admit I ever bought it) is Green Day's "Dookie" (the "All by myself" song). ~sarah :) http://members.aol.com/kdsinthhal/site.html "And tests show that a Beach Boys concert is a very sad thing." - Dave Foley, Kids in the Hall pictures on the sleeve? And though they're not currently available to order on vinyl, I know Flood exists on vinyl, cause David Letterman had it, and I think I've heard of Misc. T on vinyl, too, so if anyone could tell me about those, I'd greatly appreciate it! Thanks, Kay ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 07 Oct 1996 12:27:26 -0400 From: ANN MARIE CALLAHAN Subject: FS comments and others I found the edison museum track on FS really interesting and I was wondering if someone knows the hows and whys it came about? Someone named Leda Glodell asked: >like a paradoy of something popular which was possibly "parodied" into cage & aquarium, just a thought, anybody know? The original I believe is from the soundtrack to "Hair" originally on stage, but made into a movie. The name of the song is something like:The Dawning of the Age of Aquarius. >a song singing something like "Precious to you are the moments that you [couldn't tell] spend" I'm not sure if this is the original song but the Theme from the Mary Tyler Moore Show ( a 70's sitcom) went: Precious and few are the moments we two can share. (and other variants of that line throughout the song,(spend etc.)) On another note, my Promo copy of FS does contain the track -Token Back to Brooklyn. You can hear it if you use the rewind button and not the track button. I like the new cd, more every time i listen to it : ) I would, however recommend cub's version on NYC. Flans version is good but my fav is still the original. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 Oct 1996 13:36:42 -0400 (EDT) From: Amy Subject: Re:Santa + Xenia + A big long speech by me Some guy named jeremy pokela wrote: > > Another artist who uses the character of St. Nick (or the idead of > christmas) more than once is "Wierd Al" Yankovic, the songs being "The > night Santa went crazy" and "Christmas at Ground Zero" bot are funny as > hell. You can find them on Bad Hair Day and Dare to be Stupid (I think) > respectively. Yes I know of "Weird" Al's songs, but they are Christmas songs, in a sick sort of sense :) "Santa's Beard" and "Careless Santa" are really not songs about Christmas, which is why it struck me as odd. Today in choir, the guy in front of me had on a Xenia High School shirt, so immediately I started singing "Out of Jail" (which, incidentally, my friends are going to film a video to). Well then we started to sing, which makes sense since it *was* choir, and I still had the song in my head so I didn't do so well today. I hope he doesn't wear any more high school shirts. And I just wanted to say one more thing, since I've been posting recently. I've kept quiet during the past month or so. I've been listening to everyone talk about popularity and changing styles and blah blah blah let's all fight and flame each other and the new album's gonna suck no it's not it's great. Ok, everyone just stop for a second! Let's take a step back and look at this logically. TMBG have been recording for 10 years now. If their style had never changed, where would they be? I doubt very much that we'd be getting posts about people hearing Them on the radio, or even about how much they like the new album. We'd be getting posts like "Well, I got Factory Showroom. Sounds just like everything else." And also remember, even though I hold the Johns in very high regard, they are people just like us. They get bored. They try new things. They even make mistakes! You know, my personal favorite album is Lincoln. Does this mean that I'm not going to go to my local music store tonight at midnight and buy FS? No. I will go and buy the album. I will like it, even though it will be *different* than my favorite sounds. One of my best friends started listening to Them at the same time I did. (c. 1990) His favorite album is John Henry. Does this mean that he will like FS better than I will? I don't know. It's a matter of personal taste! It all is! So I guess to sum up what I'm trying to say, things change, and people are different. Don't flame anyone because their personal preferences are different than yours. But feel free to flame me, because I like getting mail :) Just my $.05 Amy :) cowtown@tmbg.org I'm a great lover, I'll bet. -- Emo Phillips ------------------------------ From: Matthew Coon Subject: Re: cage&aquarium; messed up face-worst enemy Date: Mon, 7 Oct 1996 12:43:25 -0500 (EST) > Wow, that was off track, my point was i heard on a commercial on the radio > being sung by a choir "This is the starting[i think] of the sale of > aquariums" and it sounded like a paradoy of something popular which was > possibly "parodied" into cage & aquarium, just a thought, anybody know? Referenced, not parodied. As will probably be pointed out many times, the reference is to the song "Aquarius," from the musical _Hair_. (The line from that song is, "This is the dawning of the Age of Aquarius," which was assumed to be a good thing.) A recording of this ("Aquarius/ Let The Sunshine In") became a major radio hit in the late 1960's for the 5th Dimension, featuring future Dionne Warwick-replacement Solid Gold host Marilyn McCoo. > And today i heard being played in a store (yes, now even life gets > background music) a song singing something like "Precious to you are the > moments that you [couldn't tell] spend" and i ws wondering if that was "The > guy with the messed up face". > I have to admit that I don't know much about the guy's face, but the reference here is to the song "Precious And Few," by a one-hit-wonder band from the early seventies called Climax ("Precious and few are the moments we two can share..."). On a trivial note, the guy who sang this had previously served as the singer in a 1960's one-hit-wonder band called The Outsiders, remembered today only for their song "Time Won't Let Me." m@t "Full frontal lobotomy, time to roll up my sleeves..." ------------------------------ From: Matthew Coon Subject: Re: Track 0 - Token Back to Brooklyn Date: Mon, 7 Oct 1996 12:47:43 -0500 (EST) > > But why keep it a secret though? > Perhaps because it is more fun to cleverly discover it yourself as a nice little surprise than to have a big sticker on the CD reading, "Be sure to listen to the secret song at Track 0?" m@t ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 07 Oct 1996 14:11:34 -0400 From: Bob Plass Organization: SUNY State College of Optometry Subject: JLC is a woman Hello all Exquisite Living People, Sorry to get off-topic, but this is a sore point with me: Jamie Lee Curtis is a woman. She is not a man. She has normal XX chromosomes, and never had any surgery to remove any external genitalia. She has the normal complement of female sexual organs, etc. It's just an urban legend. A hoax. Rumor. Okay, sore point #2: the East Germans actually fielded MEN who were injected with female hormones to give them breasts so as to fool the IOC into thinking they were women. A simple genetic test can reveal the true genetic gender of any mammal, including the fox, the ox, the cat, the bat, echidna, caribou, etc. The same test done on Jamie Lee Curtis would reveal normal XX chromosomes, by the way. Back onto topic: WE seem to be dwelling an awful lot about the significance of the "X-X-Y" -thing. Well, maybe it's just one of those lyrics that sounds better with the extra syllable - try singing the song with just one "X". Perhaps it's got nothing to do with genetics. Imagine like, a guy like, telling his girlfriend, "You are sooooo . . . " [Then he's looking for a cute word to put into the sentence. A flash of inspiration hits him - he'll spell it out! A split second before uttering his charm-phrase of the evening, he decided to misspell the word to make it funny, and comes up with:] "S-E-X-X-Y!" P.S. Jamie Lee Curtis is a woman. Post-P.S. Read my .sig for a really cool quote from "my gal" - you have to read it a few times to understand why it is so cool. We were driving somewhere, and I have no radio in my "car," so Lauren and I sing TMBG songs at the top of our lungs. I was on a MASSIVE FS kick this past weekend, but she doesn't know the songs as well as I do b/c she doesn't have the RealAudio Sonicnet thing, so I did all the singing. Bob Plass ----------------------------- "You and your They Might be Giants!" - - - Lauren, after patiently listening to me sing "Metal Detector" for 31 miles. ------------------------------ From: Matthew Coon Subject: Re: FS comments and others Date: Mon, 7 Oct 1996 13:34:50 -0500 (EST) Ann Marie Callahan writes: > > I found the edison museum track on FS really interesting > and I was wondering if someone knows the hows and whys > it came about? > You'll want to ask Cortney (http://ocelot.uofs.edu/student/ck8) about that. She will be happy to tell you in absolutely EXCRUCIATING detail about the fact that she was there to witness the recording...:-) m@t ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 Oct 1996 15:50:55 -0400 () From: BlueDawg Subject: Re: yikes! what happened to UP? On Mon, 7 Oct 1996, Tara Lynne Weber wrote: > Hey, all you Utopia Parkway telnet talker people--is anyone else having > trouble getting on there lately? As of today, whenever I try to log on, > it thinks I'm a new user, asks me to enter my password again, and then > says something like "can't add you to password file" and closes the > connection. Did the talker get shut down? I know there was talk about > that. I hope that's not what happened. It's all fixed. I really need to change me .sig. -Dawg S. M. Bergeron, idiotnot@visi.net, bluedawg@tmbg.org http://users.visi.net/~idiotnot Jeep Driver ObWittySig "Oh, kill me. I suck. I don't deserve air. I reek. I'm total waste of human flesh. I'll never be happy. I'm ugly. I'm bald. Someone hold me so I can cry."--Phil Bickel on Billy Corgan's Lyrics ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 Oct 1996 16:03:45 -0400 () From: BlueDawg Subject: Spellings of Elektra Maybe I'm just anal, but misspelled words irritate me. These are the ways I've seen Elektra spelled today: Electra Elektra Elextra Bar/None S. M. Bergeron, idiotnot@visi.net, bluedawg@tmbg.org http://users.visi.net/~idiotnot Jeep Driver ObWittySig "Oh, kill me. I suck. I don't deserve air. I reek. I'm total waste of human flesh. I'll never be happy. I'm ugly. I'm bald. Someone hold me so I can cry."--Phil Bickel on Billy Corgan's Lyrics ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 Oct 1996 16:07:44 -0400 () From: BlueDawg Subject: Re: The Refreshments (tmbg sighting...er...hearing) On Mon, 7 Oct 1996, Z wrote: > > > Hey guys, > > If anyone's remotely interested: > > I saw The Refreshments at the Edge in Palo Alto, CA tonight, and they > played Minimum Wage on the PA as they walked out on stage. It sorta took me > by surprise, but I talked to the lead singer after the show and he > aparently loooves TMBG... > > So hats off to another TMBG-friendly band...(plus, The Refreshments *rock* > too if you've never seen 'em) > > That's all folks... > > -Z > > The Refreshments suck. Period. They can't decide whether they want to be cynical or whimsical, and fail miserably at both styles. Any Questions? Just my $20.00, adjusted for the tax rate in 2020. S. M. Bergeron, idiotnot@visi.net, bluedawg@tmbg.org http://users.visi.net/~idiotnot Jeep Driver ObWittySig "Oh, kill me. I suck. I don't deserve air. I reek. I'm total waste of human flesh. I'll never be happy. I'm ugly. I'm bald. Someone hold me so I can cry."--Phil Bickel on Billy Corgan's Lyrics ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 Oct 96 16:24 EDT From: kbrodbec@remcen.ehhs.cmich.edu (Kirsten Brodbeck) Subject: Re: oooh, secret tracks. Like lemme see. Cd's with secret 'tracks' (but not really >seperate tracks, you have to scan forward) at the end: Nirvana's "Nevermind;" >Beck's "Mellow Gold;" Sonic Youth's "Expierimental Jet Set, Trash and No >Star;" Shadowy Men On A Shadowy Planet's "Sport Fishin'," um, oh, the most >popular one known for this (and I'm ashamed to admit I ever bought it) is >Green Day's "Dookie" (the "All by myself" song). Sarah McLachlan's "Fumbling Towards Ecstacy" cd has one. And "Sliver" by Moist has one like ten minutes after the last song ends. Kirsten -- ______________________________________________________________________________ "Pretend I *did* blow up the school. All the schools." -J.D. "Heathers" Kirsten Brodbeck AKA Crow kbrodbec@remcen.ehhs.cmich.edu ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 07 Oct 1996 16:28:14 -0400 From: Evan Chakroff Subject: Re: Super-Size At 11:21 PM 10/6/96 -0400, you wrote: >>No lyrics for any song are included with Factory Showroom, but the lyrics >>for this song and most of the others appear at tmbg.com. > >I thought that was only with the green covered promo copies. > >I may be wrong. > > >Jeff Morrow >jmorrow@voicenet.com > We'll all find out tomorrow... -- Evan Chakroff http://www.GeoCities.com/SoHo/4545 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 07 Oct 1996 16:36:53 -0400 From: Evan Chakroff Subject: Re: cage&aquarium; messed up face-worst enemy >> And today i heard being played in a store (yes, now even life gets >> background music) a song singing something like "Precious to you are the >> moments that you [couldn't tell] spend" and i ws wondering if that was "The >> guy with the messed up face". >> > >I have to admit that I don't know much about the guy's face, but the >reference here is to the song "Precious And Few," by a one-hit-wonder band >from the early seventies called Climax ("Precious and few are the moments >we two can share..."). On a trivial note, the guy who sang this had >previously served as the singer in a 1960's one-hit-wonder band called >The Outsiders, remembered today only for their song "Time Won't Let Me." > > >m@t > > "Full frontal lobotomy, time to roll up my sleeves..." > And They borrowed that line from that song to use in Worst Enemy -- Evan Chakroff The Internet Mystery Spot . <-- http://www.GeoCities.com/SoHo/4545 "It's as much fun as a barrel of monkees... and a shotgun." -Another Satisfied Customer ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 07 Oct 1996 16:41:44 -0400 From: Evan Chakroff Subject: Re: FS comments and others At 01:34 PM 10/7/96 -0500, you wrote: >Ann Marie Callahan writes: >> >> I found the edison museum track on FS really interesting >> and I was wondering if someone knows the hows and whys >> it came about? >> > >You'll want to ask Cortney (http://ocelot.uofs.edu/student/ck8) about >that. She will be happy to tell you in absolutely EXCRUCIATING detail >about the fact that she was there to witness the recording...:-) > > >m@t > Someone posted an url a while back that was the official Edison Museum website or somesuch, It was a descriptive account of Their visit. -- Evan Chakroff The Internet Mystery Spot . <-- http://www.GeoCities.com/SoHo/4545 "It's as much fun as a barrel of monkees... and a shotgun." -Another Satisfied Customer ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 07 Oct 1996 16:47:50 -0400 From: Evan Chakroff Subject: S-E-X-X-Y People keep talking about the signifigance of X-X-Y as chromosomes and whatnot... But WHAT ABOUT THE S-E?!?!? What do these mysterious letters mean?!? -e- PS- Sarcasm Or Not: You Decide -- Evan Chakroff The Internet Mystery Spot . <-- http://www.GeoCities.com/SoHo/4545 "It's as much fun as a barrel of monkees... and a shotgun." -Another Satisfied Customer ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 07 Oct 1996 17:00:48 -0400 (EDT) From: Fransburgh Subject: hello everyone! hello...yes, i'm posting! guess it doesnt happen too often... i just had a random thought the other day. not to pry into the lives of john and john, but does everyone remember when they lived together happily in their brooklyn apartment? good, i do too. my speculation is: well, flans is married now...so what's up? i know if i were a newlywed i wouldnt want to live in the same house with my roomate... i do realize that they probably havent been there much since july, when flans was married, but, well...? what's up with that? just a random thought, like i said... or am i just behind the times in the lives of john and john? whatever. --fransburgh (yep, that's me) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 07 Oct 1996 17:14:55 -0400 (EDT) From: CORT Subject: Edison Recording Sessions! =) Hi friends! This is cortney, how are ya! I just wanted to share the following URL with all of you: http://www.injersey.com/Media/IJFeatures/edison/tmbg.html Here you will find out the wonderous things that happened at the Edison recording sessions in April! (or you can always visit my page and email me personally - it's my very favorite TMBG story and I *love* to tell it! =)) have a They day, and I hope to see bunches of you at the Philly show! =) sun and smiles cortney http://ocelot.uofs.edu/student/ck8 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 Oct 1996 15:55:16 -0500 (CDT) From: Brandon Callison Subject: Re: oooh, secret tracks. On Mon, 7 Oct 1996 KdsInThHal@aol.com wrote: > >>But why keep it a secret though? And as someone else asked, how many CDs > are doing this? Who knows what we may be missing out on.<< > > It's kinda cool when you know it's a secret. I dunno. It just seems "better > that waaaayyy..." Like lemme see. Cd's with secret 'tracks' (but not really > seperate tracks, you have to scan forward) at the end: Nirvana's "Nevermind;" > Beck's "Mellow Gold;" Sonic Youth's "Expierimental Jet Set, Trash and No > Star;" Shadowy Men On A Shadowy Planet's "Sport Fishin'," um, oh, the most > popular one known for this (and I'm ashamed to admit I ever bought it) is > Green Day's "Dookie" (the "All by myself" song). > ~sarah :) > http://members.aol.com/kdsinthhal/site.html > "And tests show that a Beach Boys concert is a very sad thing." - Dave Foley, > Kids in the Hall > Uh, the subject of discussion was track 0's as opposed to songs tagged at the other end. Of course there have been many CD's with 99 tracks and a song hidden within here and there, and many with 20 min tracks at the end in which you fast forward. I could name off Pearl Jam's Ten, Cracker's Kerosine Hat, Danzig (Don't remember the album name)... Brandon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 Oct 1996 18:02:43 -0400 (EDT) From: Lawrence P Solomon Subject: Chords/stuff... Does anyone know how the intro to Boat of Car goes? I can't figure out the intervals - it's played too fast for me to tell. (just the notes will suffice - I figured out the rhythm) I'm also looking for the chords to Piece of Dirt, She's Actual Size (pre-full band version), and Cowtown. If anyone has these in non guitar specific notation (I play keyboards, and can't read tablature), I'd appreciate it. Thanks. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 Oct 1996 15:29:29 -0700 (PDT) From: Cory Calhoun Subject: THoughts on FS (what else?) Hello everyone. I've recently begun receiving (correct grammar?) the mailing list of all the posts, and have read many of the opinions of Factory Showroom extensively. And though I've only heard it on Real Audio, I do have a few things I'd like to add. BUT before I do., I have some advice for those who have had trouble with the new TMBG web site and the "failing to parse" thing. If you'll notice the address in the address line when this little message comes up, the up, the last owrd does NOT immediately follow the backslash. THat's what's causing the problem. (Don't ask me why.) Anyway, all you have to do is go up and delete out the space between the backslash and the word, and the FTTP will be parsed correctly. Hope that cleared some stuff up! OK, now my little meager opinions about things. 1. Has anyone considered that SEXXY is, God forbid, about sex, and not about extra chromosomes? On the TMBG.com site, They say themselves that the song is "a pretty big departure, as it's our first ode to gettin' it on." I'd say that that alone is all you need to understand about the meaning of the song. Also, there's the lyrics themselves. Take the line's "X, because it's extra, baby, Y, because it's extra baby" and "SEXXY: more than enough" indicate that, well, X & Y are extra letters connected to the word that the songs really about. Though that may be slightly shocking to some loyal fans, you gotta agree that these guys have libidos, and have the right to do a really cool song about it. 2. Another thing that has echoed by others to varying degrees is their continually evolving sound. I'm actually glad that they keep doing so, because I'd not want to listen to a band that always did the same thing. (You heard me, Green Day.) Furthermore, it's pretty tough to compare the styles of their debut and say, FS, mainly because they've matured for a decade. (Hence, again, SEXXY.) No matter how you slice it, these guys put out quality stuff every album. 3.I have one question: what exactly is the reason (if anyone knows) that the album is short? I've heard many things: Elektra didn't want it longer (to save on costs?); that they only wanted to focus on a few songs; etc. I can't blame them if THEY decided to keep it short, since it would be their choice, rather those record execs who care more about bucks than artistic integrity. Hard to believe, but I'm not really this crabby or opinionated. :-) Just wanted to leave paper stains on the grey utility pole. Why does everyone else think? Sincerely, Cory ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 Oct 1996 19:56:48 -0400 (EDT) From: Lambrakos Subject: Help Again! I guess the gods must hate me. I tried to download Nav 3.0 and I think I did, But I can't find it. Help I just want to see tmbg.com! (sniff) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 Oct 1996 20:10:04 -0400 From: Merciless@vt.edu (McGing "the Merciless") Subject: Hello Hey every one I just joined this list last night and now on the eve of the new release (for those of us who have no advance promos) I make my first post. A bit about me and THEY. I got hooked by Flood. I can't decude if the Pink album or Lincoln is my fave. I have been to see them 5 time (2 Appollo 18, 1 a few months before JH and 2 after) I am 20 and in my third year at Virginia Tech , if any on else out there goes to tech or lives near by please email me personaly(Merciless@vt.edu) I would love to plan a road trip to go see them, as they aren't coming any where close soon. My prize TMBG possession is an Apollo 18 poster signed by John Flansbugh, Tony Mamone(sp) And Brian Doherty. I have tried several time but have yet to get Linnell(arrggh) Oh I am a comm major and some day want to direct films, well that me, hello again Descriptivley, McGing "the Merciless" PS: I forgot one more thing, part of the reason I joined this is cause I really don't know a whole lot about the Jouns out side music, cause all my friends are insane and don't like them so I am isolated from They news. ############################################################################ ##"If I didn't have something else on my mind I'd take those guns and slap ya corssed eyed" -Gregory Peck (in The Gunfighter) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 07 Oct 1996 20:30:33 -0700 From: "Ike L. Ruprecht" Organization: Representatives of the People of Here Subject: As I Am Already A Hated Figure This is my first attempt at rhymed meter though I have written lots more free verse... I have absolutely no justification for this, but I've been here a while, consider it literary finds. Metaphor Nothing (c) 1996 Michael Langdon The egret choked with grace It always won the race It sat and stood on Roger's hood And never lost its place The bees attacked, much like small bats In little storms of pain First came the rat, then went the cat But the bees felt no shame Little did Roger know He always moved so slow When bees attacked the egret's nest Roger thought he was rather blessed It's metaphor nothing You looking for something? ... More of the like, if you like (although actually tolerably bad), at http://www.inca.de/user/ruprecht/ it's Ruprecht's _Crazy_ Homepage, just look for Michael's (Rose) Bad Poetry Corner... ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 Oct 1996 19:47:02 -0500 (EST) From: Queen Sneepy Subject: FS Joy, SF, Brooms and Johns fantasies Tomorrow, tomorrow, I love you, tomorrow, your only a Factory Showroom away! I have it all planned out- after my last class tomorrow, I'm going to download "I Am Not Your Broom", then I'm off to the Discount Den to purchase my own personal Factory Showroom. And oh, how pleased I'll be. I was thwarted today by the evil demons when I tried to download "I Am Not Your Broom." Netscape kept freezing on me, it was most distressing. Stop taunting me with " 'IANYB' is soooo funny!" It is too painful. On Superfueled Freaksickle- Do we actually know wheter or not They're going to put it out? I mean, I was kind of under the impression that the fun title and the whole idea was something cooked up by the list. I mean, neither of Them mentioned it on tmbg.com-my question here is, I guess, are They a) actually going to but out Misc. T II, and b) if They do, is it going to be called Superfueled Freaksickle? Hidden Tracks- Too too fun! Can you hear such things on any old cd player? I have a portable RCA jobbie, I don't know if it would work that way, because it doesn't have a counter on it. It just shows the track number, and I'm afraid that if I push the rewind button, it's just going to either stop or flip back to the last track. I've only just realized what a sad, pathetic life I lead. Over the summer, I think I've become a certifiable They Freak. I think I'm going to have to make up a certificate, just to prove it. My ideal man? Looks kinda like Flans, acts kinda like Linnell (at least, AFAIK from his letters). My ideal music? Anything that sounds or is They. My favourite clothing? My They shirts. My favourtie kind of people? They fans. I think I need to go to TMBG detox. This is too sad! *^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^ Stefanie Elliott "Who'll teach me drama? Who'll be my acting coach? I love the theatre of smelliot@falstaff.ucs.indiana.edu Dr. Kildare!" -Monopuff, "Dr. Kildare" **StarWars*DNRC*Medievalist*X-Phile*TMBG*MiSTie #14672*MacUser*Comics*Reader** ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 Oct 1996 19:42:07 -0500 (CDT) From: harris james andrew Subject: Re: oooh, secret tracks. Another few for the secret tracks list... "Danzig 4" -- Danzig (It's Track 66) "Punk In Drublic" -- NOFX (Scan through on the last track) And...ashamed I ever bought this disc... "Smash" -- Offspring (on last track) A Weird Al Yankovic CD, "Off The Deep End" has a few second of Al screaming at the end. I haven't bought FS yet, but I know about the track zero thing. I have heard an advance copy through the radio station I work at, though. New to the list but not to TMBG... Jim Harris ------------------------------ From: Kate Subject: real audio sites Date: Mon, 7 Oct 1996 21:20:41 -0400 hey all, i need somebody's help PLEASE!! i just downloaded RealAudio so i could hear FS, but i can't seem to find any sites that are playing it. please send me mail ASAP of a good RA site. kate@unix.trilogy.net ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 07 Oct 1996 19:41:25 -0500 From: Jeff Gustafson Organization: They Might Be Giants Subject: TMBG page updated. The TMBG page at Elektra has been updated to hype Factory Showroom, check it out! ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 Oct 1996 21:46:05 -0400 () From: BlueDawg Subject: Re: hello everyone! On Mon, 7 Oct 1996, Fransburgh wrote: > hello...yes, i'm posting! guess it doesnt happen too often... > i just had a random thought the other day. > not to pry into the lives of john and john, but does everyone remember > when they lived together happily in their brooklyn apartment? > good, i do too. my speculation is: > well, flans is married now...so what's up? i know if i were a newlywed i > wouldnt want to live in the same house with my roomate... > i do realize that they probably havent been there much since july, when > flans was married, but, well...? what's up with that? > just a random thought, like i said... > or am i just behind the times in the lives of john and john? > whatever. Yep. They haven't lived together since the Flood years. Linnell shares an apartment with someone else (it was Brian Dewan for awhile). This is according to good sources on a.m.tmbg. S. M. Bergeron, idiotnot@visi.net, bluedawg@tmbg.org http://users.visi.net/~idiotnot Jeep Driver ObWittySig "Coffee is a Social Disorder"--John Sidney Linnell ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 07 Oct 1996 20:53:26 -0500 From: Mitch Fishman Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign Subject: Re: TMBG page updated. Jeff Gustafson wrote: > > The TMBG page at Elektra has been updated to hype Factory Showroom, > check it out! whats the URL? the one at www.elektra.com is still the old page --=-=-=-==--=-=-=-==--=-=-=-==--=-=-=-==--=-=-=-== Mitch Fishman e-mail: mitch@tmbg.org home page: http://www.students.uiuc.edu/~mfishman talk or cooltalk: mitch@isr1013.urh.uiuc.edu --=-=-=-==--=-=-=-==--=-=-=-==--=-=-=-==--=-=-=-== ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 07 Oct 1996 22:21:51 -0400 From: Gautam Peri Subject: Re: tmbg-list Digest #2-274 To Jeff: >Is that Linnell or Flansburgh singing "O Do Not Forsake Me" on Live in NYC. >I think its Flans, but my friend insists that it's Linnell. I'm not positive as to that specific show, but I think that, other than one of the Irving Plaza shows in October of 1994 (where Hudson Shad came on and did it - that was the show where They did all of John Henry in order), Flans sings it, in a different key. Not positive though. To Wyatt: >Wow, that was off track, my point was i heard on a commercial on the radio >being sung by a choir "This is the starting[i think] of the sale of >aquariums" and it sounded like a paradoy of something popular which was >possibly "parodied" into cage & aquarium, just a thought, anybody know? It's not a parody...it's the Age of Aquarius by the Fifth Dimension...the chorus of Cage and Aquarium is a twist on the line "This is the dawning of the Age of Aquarius."...The original song is from like 1966-67 or so... To Leo: >I believe the record company is twisting their arm for some reason, and >it's hurting their creativity a little. Yeah, I've heard rumors about this as well. I wouldn't be particularly surprised if the record company were twisting Their arms, but at the same time Elektra has done an absolutely HORRENDOUS job promoting Their albums. For John Henry, I saw one small ad that Elektra put in various music magazines, and that was about it. I'm fairly sure that only Flood has gone gold, so it's clear why Elektra might not be happy. It's Elektra's fault - they don't publicize and they don't get radio stations to play Them. The only station in my area (central jersey) that plays any TMBG is WHTG 106.3, which is a small-market radio station that caters to indie and lesser-known major label bands...I happen to live in a big market, and many people don't so they probably don't hear any TMBG at all on the radio. +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ "I don't know what to believe, sometimes I even forget...And if it's a lie, terrorists made me say it..." -Gord Downie of the Tragically Hip in "Gift Shop" Gautam Peri, Economics (Yes, really), Rutgers University http://mars.superlink.net/peri +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ------------------------------ From: mjames@greed.loyola.edu (Matthew James) Subject: hello everyone! Date: Mon, 7 Oct 1996 22:34:25 -0400 (EDT) > good, i do too. my speculation is: > well, flans is married now...so what's up? i know if i were a newlywed i > wouldnt want to live in the same house with my roomate... > i do realize that they probably havent been there much since july, when > flans was married, but, well...? what's up with that? > just a random thought, like i said... > or am i just behind the times in the lives of john and john? > whatever. > --fransburgh (yep, that's me) They move to San Francisco where all the bands live together ;) Matt -- *------------------------------------------------------------------- Matt James polk@tmbg.org Matt.James.K.Polk@tmbg.org mjames@envy.loyola.edu Loyola College, Baltimore, Maryland, United States of America "Cracking toast, Gromit!" New, Official Bruce Campbell Gazette page: http://www.bcgazette.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 Oct 1996 21:54:56 -0500 From: "Linda Schultz" Subject: Re: tmbg-list Digest #2-274 Hi, this is my first post to this list, I tried before but my message got sent back to me. First thing, I ordered FS and S.E.X.X.Y from CD Now the store on the Internet, and last Friday or Saturday I got something in my Email that the S.E.X.X.Y. single was not going to be released until October 22, and not the 15th as we originally thought. Secondly, I have rather inferior technology at the moment and can't excess the TMBBG home page, so would like to know if they still plan on having the Info Club and if they still plan on sending newsletters, and if you can still order merchandise over the phone. Leo, I thought your comments about Flans versus Linnell were brilliant, Flans is the more commercial one who handles some of the business and Linnell is more into the music. A long lost friend and I used to have this same discussion years ago before she disappeared. This list is excellent, all the fans are great, I love it! That's all for now. Linda### ------------------------------ From: Brooksie2@aol.com Date: Mon, 7 Oct 1996 23:21:00 -0400 Subject: Re: Super-Size As per the lyrics for Factory Showroom: From what I've heard, the lyrics will not be included with Factory Showroom. That's the bad news... The good news is... They are contained in the new newsletter, which is (supposed) to be mailed, well, tomorrow! (Quote "Letterbox" here.) Incidentally, cub have a habit of putting extra tracks on their CDs. My one problem with this is that I, absent-mindeded as I am, forget that I have the CD playing, and then after 20 minutes of silence I get quite a surprise. Love, Brooks. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 Oct 1996 20:24:17 -0700 (MST) From: JWH Subject: John L., tracks and S.E.X.X.Y 1) Hey, on that 'House of Blues' tape, John L. has lost his voice, which leads to Flans signing some songs that he usually does not, which is cool. But, the other day at a concert- didn't they cancel after something like ten minutes because John L. was sick-- is this guy alright? Does anyone have any doubts about their world tour or if he's alright now? 2) Nine Inch Nails "broken" tracks 98 and 99. And ten mminutes of music before track one on the "X-files" cd. 3) Has anyone possibly considered that maybe, just maybe, S.E.X.X.Y. means SEX: XY, as in she wants to be a MAN (XY)? Maybe it's not nearly as complicated as some people think.... -Josh H. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 07 Oct 1996 21:31:57 -0500 From: Jeff Gustafson Organization: They Might Be Giants Subject: Re: TMBG page updated. Mitch Fishman wrote: > > Jeff Gustafson wrote: > > > > The TMBG page at Elektra has been updated to hype Factory Showroom, > > check it out! > > whats the URL? the one at www.elektra.com is still the old page http://pathfinder.com/@@bg2GjAUA4SwjUS*G/elektra/alternative_club/tmbg/tmbg.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 07 Oct 1996 23:31:06 EDT From: cds4@Lehigh.EDU (CATHERINE DAY SPAIN) Subject: whoa....secret tracks! Hey guys! I haven't posted in awhile, so I know that you missed me! :) About the secret tracks thing, NIN's "Broken" CD has 6 tracks named, but then the CD player has to go through every track until it gets to 98, and then two more songs come on. I remember being really annoyed waiting the 4 minutes or so that it took for the next song to come up. Oh well. I'm looking forward to the Philly show. Hopefully, there will be tixs left when I go on break (friday), so that I can pick some up. My friend that lives near Philly says that I shouldn't worry, but I want the tixs in my hand so that I know for sure that we are going. I will just have to wait I guess......:( Well, I have a law mid-term and a pyschology test in the next two days, so I better get studying! I can't wait for tomorrow-one class, then I walk down to our local CD store and get FS!! YES!!!!!!!! tucker ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 07 Oct 1996 23:42:34 -0700 From: "Ike L. Ruprecht" Organization: Representatives of the People of Here Subject: 15 minutes 15 minutes to the release of FS for those of us on the Eastern seaboard of the US!!! thats's all... ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 Oct 1996 18:03:32 -1000 From: psss@pixi.com (Sarah Cooke) Subject: Re: Token Back >Token Back to Brooklyn is not on the Promo radio cd. I found >one yesterday at a store and tried to rewind from track 1 to >0 and it would not do it, it was not there. Could this be only >on the official release? >Matt Try finding it on a different CD player. Sarah Cooke "Don't interrupt me as I struggle to complete this thought; have some respect for someone more forgetful than yourself." --TMBG ------------------------------ From: Christi587@aol.com Date: Mon, 7 Oct 1996 23:41:36 -0400 Subject: Re: FS Joy, SF, Brooms and Johns fantasies xI've only just realized what a sad, pathetic life I lead. Over the xsummer, I think I've become a certifiable They Freak. I think I'm going xto have to make up a certificate, just to prove it. My ideal man? Looks xkinda like Flans, acts kinda like Linnell (at least, AFAIK from his xletters). My ideal music? Anything that sounds or is They. My xfavourite clothing? My They shirts. My favourtie kind of people? They xfans. I think I need to go to TMBG detox. This is too sad! *** Certificate Of TMBG Addiction This is to certify that the bearer hereof, ___(your name here)___, as of this date __(date)__ , is a genuine TMBG freak. The bearer owns as many TMBG albums, singles, and shirts, and has gone to as many concerts, as is financially possible. As a matter of fact, most of the bearer's income is spent on TMBG products of some type. If forced to choose between a TMBG concert or food, clothing, and shelter, the bearer would have to stop and think for a few minutes before deciding. The bearer owns the bootleg video collection and is salivating for vol. 2. He/she has called his/her local radio station at least three times to complain that they don't play enough TMBG. Time in the bearer's life slowed to a crawl after the delay of the new single. He/she is the object of constant ridicule by much of the world because of his/her musical tastes, yet he/she has converted at least one person to join in TMBG worship. The bearer already knows all the lyrics to Factory Showroom, and most of the lyrics to the songs that didn't make the album. The bearer thinks "I Am Not Your Broom" is the most innovative music video ever made. He/she has scratched "TMBG: Brooklyn's Ambassadors of Love" into at least one patch of wet cement. At least one TMBG album is in the bearer's cd changer at all times. He/she aced that history quiz about 19th century democrats that everyone else flunked. The bearer plans on giving his/her firstborn the first *and* middle name John. He/she has started drinking dangerous amounts of coffee. His/her personal philosophy is "I want to raise my freak flag higher and higher." Most of all, the bearer envisions God as an accordian player. *** Sigh... I may need to print this out for myself someday soon... --Christy ------------------------------ From: Matthew Coon Subject: Re: John L., tracks and S.E.X.X.Y Date: Mon, 7 Oct 1996 23:29:13 -0500 (EST) Josh H. writes: > Has anyone possibly considered that maybe, just maybe, S.E.X.X.Y. means > SEX: XY, as in she wants to be a MAN (XY)? Maybe it's not nearly as > complicated as some people think.... > From where I'm standing, that explanation is every bit as complicated as the others (and no more likely...) m@t ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 08 Oct 1996 00:33:24 -0400 From: Jeff Morrow Subject: Re: Token Back Time to clear up a misconception: Token Back to Brooklyn is not Track 0, Track -1, or Track 99,999,999 It is on Track 1 at -1:03 seconds and can only be found using a REWIND button and not a TRACK button. Jeff Morrow jmorrow@voicenet.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 Oct 1996 00:02:07 -0500 (EST) From: Queen Sneepy Subject: Re: FS Joy, SF, Brooms and Johns fantasies > *** > Certificate Of TMBG Addiction > > Whoo! I read that and thought "Check! Check! Check!" to almost all of the points-I think I'll print that out, and put it on some nice certificate paper, then put it on my wall, so everyone will know! Everyone will know that I am a....loser. Oh dear. You know what? I don't care, I'm proud to be a freak! I need to find others of my ilk here at this school, I've only come across one or two. Don't worry, friends, our day will come! *^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^ Stefanie Elliott "Who'll teach me drama? Who'll be my acting coach? I love the theatre of smelliot@falstaff.ucs.indiana.edu Dr. Kildare!" -Monopuff, "Dr. Kildare" **StarWars*DNRC*Medievalist*X-Phile*TMBG*MiSTie #14672*MacUser*Comics*Reader** ------------------------------ From: Anakin Skywalker Subject: Re: Token Back Date: Tue, 8 Oct 1996 00:28:36 -0500 (CDT) > It is on Track 1 at -1:03 seconds and can only be found using a REWIND > button and not a TRACK button. Actually, I've heard that if you have a really cool CD player, you _can_ go to track zero... May the force be with you. Justification: / "Within its deep infinity I saw ingathered, and bound by GRASS / love in one volume, the scattered leaves of all the ~"'`'`'~"'`"~"~"^ universe." - Dante *'`'*.,.'`'*.,.*'`'*.,.*'`'* WOW: Vortex http://www.atw.fullfeed.com/~pez -- Anakin Skywalker -- anakin@vader.snc.edu ------------------------------ End of tmbg-list Digest #2-275 ******************************