Errors-To: owner-tmbg-digest@tmbg.org Reply-To: tmbg-digest@tmbg.org Sender: owner-tmbg-digest@tmbg.org Precedence: bulk From: owner-tmbg-digest@tmbg.org To: tmbg-digest@tmbg.org Subject: tmbg-list Digest #2-319 tmbg-list Digest, Volume 2, Number 319 Thursday, 21 November 1996 Today's Topics: TMBG: tmbg on dutch radio siting TMBG: i checked my mail so i lied Re: TMBG: fencing TMBG: Talk.com TMBG: BOBA MAIL: Cabaret Metro, the debate goes on..... Re: TMBG: fencing TMBG: Guitar Was The Case Re: TMBG: Guitar Was The Case TMBG: Duh Re: TMBG: Duh Re: TMBG: xtcvaa TMBG: RE: TMBG old song referances TMBG: Re: Caberet Metro Bootleg Re: TMBG: xtcvaa, unrelated stuff Re: TMBG: BOBA MAIL: Cabaret Metro, the debate goes on..... Re: TMBG: Talk.com TMBG: Heard S-E-X-X-Y on the radio TMBG: A18 Cabaret Metro Re: TMBG: Re: Caberet Metro Bootleg Re: TMBG: Green magic marker Re: TMBG: Nit needs help placing a show Re: TMBG: Duh TMBG: Talk.com TMBG: DLS Re: TMBG: BOBA MAIL: Cabaret Metro, the debate goes on..... Re: TMBG: Re: Caberet Metro Bootleg Re: TMBG: Talk.com TMBG: Rykodisc *INDY*? Re: TMBG: Talk.com ( TMBG: TMBG oral interp TMBG: TMBG Chords Archive Re: TMBG: DLS Re: TMBG: Ana NG TMBG: meet the Johns Re: TMBG: BOBA MAIL: Cabaret Metro, the debate goes on..... Re: TMBG: A18 Cabaret Metro TMBG: TMBG and RA? TMBG: Lincoln etchings Re: TMBG: Nit needs help placing a show Re: TMBG: TMBG oral interp Re: TMBG: meet the Johns Re: TMBG: A18 Cabaret Metro TMBG: Larry Sandres show Re: TMBG: meet the Johns TMBG: recordings Re: TMBG: fencing TMBG: Surprise. TMBG: Artificial TMBG Digest 8/27/95 (fwd) TMBG: ok i now have THE poster Re: TMBG: Artificial TMBG Digest 8/27/95 (fwd) TMBG: New job. Re: TMBG: Larry Sandres show Re: TMBG: meet the Johns TMBG: Grease Re: TMBG: Nit needs help placing a show TMBG: chatting? Re: TMBG: Nit needs help placing a show Re: TMBG: fencing Re: TMBG: Lincoln etchings TMBG: Larry Sanders reruns. TMBG:Meet J. Sidney TMBG: real audio chat Re: TMBG: Re: Caberet Metro Bootleg Re: TMBG: Nit needs help placing a show TMBG: real audio TMBG: Larry Sanders TMBG: chatting Re: TMBG: chatting RE: TMBG: Larry Sandres show TMBG: TMBG on Larry Sanders =) TMBG: Re: A Different Reason For Unpopular S-E-X-X-Y & XVAA Administrivia: For all administrative issues, such as change of address, withdrawal from the list, etc., send a message to the following address: tmbg-digest-request@tmbg.org --------------------------------------------------------------------- The views expressed herein are those of the individual authors. --------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 20 Nov 1996 11:22:00 +0100 From: parreira@tmbg.org (Daniel Rodrigues Parreira) Subject: TMBG: tmbg on dutch radio siting Organization: puppet head A couple of moments ago Dutch national radio 1 (a news station) played Dinner Bell. It even was mentioned from which album it was played! :) _ _ _ _ | \ |_) |_) parreira@aquawolf.xs4all.nl (_iao... |_/aniel | \odrigues |arreira parreira@ecsi.chem.uva.nl parreira@tmbg.org amsterdam, the netherlands, europe biochemistry student at the pgp key available on request university of amsterdam http://ecsi.chem.uva.nl/~parreira ------------------------------ From: CWLKNSN@wvnvaxa.wvnet.edu Date: Wed, 20 Nov 1996 06:48:34 -0500 (EST) Subject: TMBG: i checked my mail so i lied Organization: West Virginia Network no new questions for awhile i have to figure out another way of doing this sam by the way it was john popper ------------------------------ From: TheMoog! Subject: Re: TMBG: fencing Date: Wed, 20 Nov 1996 12:21:21 -0500 (EST) On Tue, 19 Nov 1996 23:48:08 -0500 (EST) Lambrakos wrote: >>I've just gotten into fencing as of last thursday...I LOVE IT! >>anyone know of where I can catch a tournie? Toledo/cleveland area... >> >Neat! I am an on again, off again fencer, and have been for about three or >four years. It's so nice to see the different threads develop in this >newsgroup. I guess you get a diverse enough and large enough group of >people together, and there are bound to be a few who are into the same sort >of things you are. Wow. It really is a small world(girl) after all. (Sorry, >had to put some content in, I just feel like I sold out though. [sigh]) > > Will. Whoa. We have some kinda weird fencing/tmbg coincidence going on here. You see, both myself and my borther are a) Huge TMBG fans and B) keen fencers. How many does that make now? this is getting a bit freaky. (Hmm, I can see the rest of the non-fencing list people getting mightily pissed off with this thread, having as it does virtually no TMBG content.) (But then again, this sure beats that damn Pink album versus Blue Dog versus a thousand other names debate. At least this is interesting!) I would be interested to know which weapons you fence in, all those fencers out there, and in a complete deviation to the subject of the list, if any of you waould like to give me some advice in deciding which weapons to specialise in (I do all three, foil, sabre and eppee, but am pretty poor at all of them.) then please drop me a line. Thanks, and sorry for all those non-fencers who've just read through all this for no good reason! The Moog! ------------------------------ Subject: TMBG: Talk.com From: jenifer.stewart@juno.com (Jenifer W Stewart) Date: Wed, 20 Nov 1996 07:32:31 EST At 7p.m. EST tonight, TMBG will be on a live real audio interview at: http://www.talk.com/ I believe that you have to be a subscribed member to actually hear this interview live, but does anyone know if you can download and hear the interview at a later time if you're not a subscribed member? Jen Mammal, mammal, Their names are called They raise a paw...... - TMBG ------------------------------ From: "BOBA" Organization: anubis Date: Wed, 20 Nov 1996 08:50:32 EST Subject: TMBG: BOBA MAIL: Cabaret Metro, the debate goes on..... I am writing in response to the 11/11/92 Cabaret Metro Bootleg debate, I think that it would be very odd for them to do a show consisting only of the old songs when They could be promoting Their new album, Apollo 18. If you remember correctly, in Their John Henry Show, 10/29/94, They play John Henry in sequence, and then They go on to continue to play a virtual 'best of' show, featuring songs that were singles and other favourites. So, it wouldn't be totally impossible to think that that show went down like that. Traders, your thoughts? Boba Out. *------------------------------------------------------- -Matthew J. Ondrey, the man who owns every lost sock. "Ladies & Gentlemen, a Gibiddy Gibb Gibb AWW!" - They Might Be Giants boba@tmbg.org Check out my bootleg list, just updated: http://bobasboots.home.ml.org *------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Nov 1996 09:04:41 -0500 (EST) From: Ekul Hpesoj Nevets Subject: Re: TMBG: fencing On Wed, 20 Nov 1996, TheMoog! wrote: > (But then again, this sure beats that damn > Pink album versus Blue Dog versus a thousand > other names debate. At least this is > interesting!) I guess that depends on who you talk to about it :) Don't be suprised if some of us find it a little boring, buy HEY! That's what the delete button is for, yes?! So, continue fencing :) SJL ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Nov 1996 09:14:49 -0500 From: Adam Tyner Subject: TMBG: Guitar Was The Case Was the song 'Guitar Was The Case' from the Mono Puff: Unsupervised CD inspired by the band Shadowy Men On A Shadowy Planet? They have a pretty distinctive style, and GWTC captures that style perfectly... Just a thought, -Adam Tyner /----=========================================----\ http://www.awod.com/gallery/rwav/ctyner/ The home of He-Man, "Weird Al", Yoo-Hoo, and more! ctyner@awod.com O- MiSTie #67,326 ------------------------------ From: Anakin Skywalker Subject: Re: TMBG: Guitar Was The Case Date: Wed, 20 Nov 1996 08:34:03 -0600 (CST) > Was the song 'Guitar Was The Case' from the Mono Puff: Unsupervised CD I've always thought that that song would have been absolutely perfect as the opener for some kind of superhero movie... Not the dark kind, like Batman or whatever, but I can just see that being the opening music to, say, the Guy Gardner (sp?) Green Lantern, or something similar... Wow! What a way to open up a movie! (or an album, for that matter...) May the force be with you. Justification: / "C'mon... Please... Gimmie the foot..." - Spoken to a EGGPLANT / dog in the movie Brainscan ~"'`'`'~"'`"~"~"^ *'`'*.,.*'`'*.,.*'`'*.,.*'`'*.,.*'`'*.,.*'`'* WOW: Otherness http://www.atw.fullfeed.com/~pez -- Anakin Skywalker -- anakin@vader.snc.edu ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Nov 1996 06:39:24 -0800 From: Herne Subject: TMBG: Duh Okay having been here a few months I claim the right to ask two stupid questions... 1.)What is King of Wingo? Is it a Dial A Song? 2.)What exactly is a freak flag? thank you, Herne ------------------------------ From: Anakin Skywalker Subject: Re: TMBG: Duh Date: Wed, 20 Nov 1996 08:51:48 -0600 (CST) > 2.)What exactly is a freak flag? A symbolistic representation of a person's willingness to say "HEY! I'm a FREAK! I'm ME! SO THERE! HA! _I_ won't succumb to your social MORES or your IDEAS because I'm DIFFERENT, and I don't care what you think about that!" (although usually not that bitter - don't know where that came from) ;) May the force be with you. Justification: / "A man who uses an accordion for evil could be capable of GODS / anything." - Ranger Doug ~"'`'`'~"'`"~"~"^ *'`'*.,.*'`'*.,.*'`'*.,.*'`'*.,.*'`'*.,.*'`'* WOW: Otherness http://www.atw.fullfeed.com/~pez -- Anakin Skywalker -- anakin@vader.snc.edu ------------------------------ From: mjames@envy.loyola.edu (Matthew James) Subject: Re: TMBG: xtcvaa Date: Wed, 20 Nov 1996 09:50:25 -0500 (EST) > Matthew James wrote: > > > > Ther's only one fatal flaw (and believe me this is completely objective > > even though I love lots of 80s music) in your theory. TMBG have said > > time after time that they *LOVE* XTC's music and think it is fantastic. > > Now how could they write about that if they think XTC is in no way > > bland, but, in complete contrast, totally-not bland, brilliant even? > > (Sigh) This is what happens when you allow people to glue their posters.... > > Of COURSE They're going to SAY they worship XTC and all that! I doubt They > consider XTC brilliant - it is possible, however, that they respect XTC for transcending > the category of Beatle-based pop. But there's no point in pissing off XTC if the song's > not really about them, but a type of music they represent. Maybe They prefer > Beatle-based pop to New Romantic, but it's certainly the best of a bad lot. I'm > blathering here - suffice to say I now believe they set out to write a lame, cheesy > song, but They were only partially successful. The clincher to me is the cheeseball > glam-rock guitar. Everyone here has been slamming the player (I'm not impressed either) > but They realized that cheeseball guitar is a key element of (yawn) '80's music. > > Jump in, please, anybody - it's getting late, and I'm starting to confuse myself > here... This is the biggest load of bullshit I've ever heard. Ok, so we've established that you don't like 80s music, that's fine. I understand how you are opposed to other's view of the music of the 80s (don't give me that crap about every 80s song is glam-rock, there is music in the 90s filled with glam-rock, same with the 70s). But to say TMBG doesn't like XTC is like saying the Pope isn't Catholic. I'm not sure what you mean by them "saying that they like XTC when in fact they don't" (to paraphrase). Also, XTC is in no way glam-rock and if you are comparing them to this then you are dead wrong. I haven't heard an Adam Ant song wthat was glam-rocky (although there might be some, any Adam Ant fan here?). Yes, I admit XTC Vs. Adam Ant is not my favorite song off of Factory Showroom, probably is closer to the bottom, but that doesn't have anything to do with Them liking or not liking XTC. So unless I am completely missing your point, I find your argument unfounded. Matt -- Member of the ARM since '96 (let's give 'em hell) *------------------------------------------------------------------- Matt James polk@tmbg.org Matt.James.K.Polk@tmbg.org mjames@envy.loyola.edu Loyola College, Baltimore, Maryland, United States of America "Cracking toast, Gromit!" New, Official Bruce Campbell Gazette page: http://www.bcgazette.com ------------------------------ From: "Rensink, Brenden BHS" Subject: TMBG: RE: TMBG old song referances Date: Wed, 20 Nov 96 07:37:00 P 32 I beleive. Brenden - nednerB ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Nov 1996 9:47:00 -0800 From: "MICHAEL BORNHORST@warnerbros.com" Subject: TMBG: Re: Caberet Metro Bootleg It's been written: I am writing in response to the 11/11/92 Cabaret Metro Bootleg debate, I think that it would be very odd for them to do a show consisting only of the old songs when They could be promoting Their new album, Apollo 18. If you remember correctly, in Their John Henry Show, 10/29/94, They play John Henry in sequence, and then They go on to continue to play a virtual 'best of' show, featuring songs that were singles and other favourites. So, it wouldn't be totally impossible to think that that show went down like that. Traders, your thoughts? I WAS AT THAT SHOW! I can't believe there's a bootleg. Might someone know how I could snag a copy? That was during my sophomore year at Northwestern. They performed the pink album *in order.* If I remember, Flans came out and said "It's 1987. They Might Be Giants play thier first gig in Chicago. 8 of you are there..." And, if I remember correctly, they introduced the songs "Side One, Track One" and so on. They even paused between album sides. This lasted about 40 minutes and the guys left the stage. Five minutes later they returned and Flans said "Boy, it'd suck if that's all we played!" Then they went into their Apollo 18 stuff and the usual songs. I've been to 6 TMBG shows, and this was one of my favorites. Don't always get to hear "Number 3" live any more. Again, if anyone knows how to get that boot please let me know. I have no TMBG boots to trade, but do have others that I could tape (if anyone's interested). E-me with info... Michael MICHAEL_BORNHORST@warnerbros.com ------------------------------ From: wglodell@baraboo.com (Wyatt Glodell) Subject: Re: TMBG: xtcvaa, unrelated stuff Date: Wed, 20 Nov 1996 12:26:50 -0600 Sorry to matt, i sent this to him, i hate forgetting to change the to: >> Matthew James wrote: >> > >> > Ther's only one fatal flaw (and believe me this is completely objective > I'd just like to say i agree with Matt, they have always said they like XTC, so maybe the original author of this post should do some research...... It wasn't necessary to post that, but i wanted to say sone other things: IT'S My birthday, i turned 13about 15 minutes ago. I wont be so flamey now, i have been in a bad mood for about the last week and a half, i was pretty sick, i am just now getting over it I got lincoln (for my b-day) finally, I had heard all of it, because i had it out from the library for 4 months and forgot it was, then i could afford it. I also got a zip and 16 megs more ram which dosent fit and i got shocked im my computer over 30 times.... yummy that was pretty unrelated, but i wanted to say it -\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/- "Go ahead, wreck your life, that might be good"- They Might Be Giants (Spiralling Shape) Wyatt Glodell wglodell@baraboo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Nov 1996 14:37:42 -0500 (EST) From: "The Famous Mr. Klaw" Subject: Re: TMBG: BOBA MAIL: Cabaret Metro, the debate goes on..... On Wed, 20 Nov 1996, BOBA wrote: > I am writing in response to the 11/11/92 Cabaret Metro Bootleg > debate, I think that it would be very odd for them to do a show > consisting only of the old songs when They could be promoting Their > new album, Apollo 18. If you remember correctly, in Their John Henry > Show, 10/29/94, They play John Henry in sequence, and then They go on > to continue to play a virtual 'best of' show, featuring songs that were > singles and other favourites. So, it wouldn't be totally impossible > to think that that show went down like that. Traders, your thoughts? I agree that it is strange for Them to do a debut album show during the Apollo 18 tour. However, this does not rule out the fact that Linnell says that this show is only 40 minutes long. However, there are many good arguments in favour of it being one long show. For example, how come there are no songs from the first album during the second half? Could it be because they already played them all in the first half, or is it just a coincidence? Once again, I don't have the answers, only vague speculations. Alex ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Nov 1996 14:42:40 -0500 (EST) From: "The Famous Mr. Klaw" Subject: Re: TMBG: Talk.com On Wed, 20 Nov 1996, Jenifer W Stewart wrote: > At 7p.m. EST tonight, TMBG will be on a live real audio interview at: > http://www.talk.com/ > I believe that you have to be a subscribed member to actually hear this > interview live, but does anyone know if you can download and hear the > interview at a later time if you're not a subscribed member? Actually, the live real audio interview will be at 4pm EST. I don't know if you have to be a memeber to participate in the live portion, but it looks as though the interview will be available to listen to once it's done, since they have archives of previous interviews. Alex ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Nov 1985 14:44:39 -0500 From: Evan Chakroff Subject: TMBG: Heard S-E-X-X-Y on the radio I heard S-E-X-X-Y on the radio last night... which is odd because I hardly ever listen to the radio, and all this station ever plays of Their's is The Guitar. It seemed slightly different... Is this a radio mix or just the crappy car speakers? -- Evan Chakroff The Internet Mystery Spot http://www.GeoCities.com/SoHo/4545 "Plagiarism is the sincerest form of flattery." ------------------------------ From: mjames@envy.loyola.edu (Matthew James) Subject: TMBG: A18 Cabaret Metro Date: Wed, 20 Nov 1996 14:44:14 -0500 (EST) Because of the fact that there were no first album songs on the second side (ie the A18 portion of the show, if indeed it is the same show), would make me believe this IS the same show. Think about it, have you ever been to any concert in your life (TMBG or otherwise) where they have played the same song at the same concert? Now, thinking back, the full band had not been formed during this time, thus they are much more prone to play First album songs during this time, especially Don't Let's Start which they almost always play. It would seem rather odd that this would occur if this is a separate show. Unfortunately, these days, not only is the First album avoided but Lincoln (except maybe Ana Ng) is generally skipped over in concerts. Ahh they need to bring back the old tunes! Matt -- Member of the ARM since '96 (let's give 'em hell) *------------------------------------------------------------------- Matt James polk@tmbg.org Matt.James.K.Polk@tmbg.org mjames@envy.loyola.edu Loyola College, Baltimore, Maryland, United States of America "Cracking toast, Gromit!" New, Official Bruce Campbell Gazette page: http://www.bcgazette.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Nov 1996 14:50:07 -0500 (EST) From: "The Famous Mr. Klaw" Subject: Re: TMBG: Re: Caberet Metro Bootleg On Wed, 20 Nov 1996, MICHAEL BORNHORST@warnerbros.com wrote: > They performed the pink album *in order.* If I remember, Flans came out > and said "It's 1987. They Might Be Giants play thier first gig in Chicago. > 8 of you are there..." And, if I remember correctly, they introduced the > songs "Side One, Track One" and so on. They even paused between album sides. > This lasted about 40 minutes and the guys left the stage. Five minutes > later they returned and Flans said "Boy, it'd suck if that's all we > played!" > Then they went into their Apollo 18 stuff and the usual songs. I've Well, if Michael is refering to the same show that we are talking about, I guess the debate is over, and I guess I lose...oh well. Alex ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Nov 1985 14:50:36 -0500 From: Evan Chakroff Subject: Re: TMBG: Green magic marker >>83.1% out of 23,000(approx.) said You'll Miss Me was their least >>favorite. >> >>What is wrong with this song. I like it. Am I the only one. > >Like I said, these people have obviously never heard the demo. I believe my >namesake was going to put a copy of it up on his webpage -- Josh, what's >happenin'? I just got the demo tape (thanks sarah!(KITH), and I think the demo tape version is better, but It's not as emotional, and doesn't match the lyrics as well. Musically it's better, tho. -- Evan Chakroff The Internet Mystery Spot http://www.GeoCities.com/SoHo/4545 "Plagiarism is the sincerest form of flattery." ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Nov 1985 14:55:52 -0500 From: Evan Chakroff Subject: Re: TMBG: Nit needs help placing a show >> you will hear the full band. They did stick very closely to the album >> arrangements, but Chess Piece Face, for instance, should have horns. > >Um. It doesn't have horns on the album, why should it have them in concert? For variety sake. Do you go to a concert wanting to hear the song exactly as it appears on the album? I'm sure they like to change it around a little bit also. -- Evan Chakroff The Internet Mystery Spot http://www.GeoCities.com/SoHo/4545 "Plagiarism is the sincerest form of flattery." ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Nov 1985 15:01:15 -0500 From: Evan Chakroff Subject: Re: TMBG: Duh >1.)What is King of Wingo? Is it a Dial A Song? yes. >2.)What exactly is a freak flag? hair. ------------------------------ From: mjames@envy.loyola.edu (Matthew James) Subject: TMBG: Talk.com Date: Wed, 20 Nov 1996 15:05:21 -0500 (EST) I think the Talk.com must be out in California or west coast place. You see, 4pm PST is 24:00 GMT which is what they have on their page. The time differece is exactly right methinks. So unless they have it screwed up on the page, it must be 7pm here on the East Coast for that chat. Matt -- Member of the ARM since '96 (let's give 'em hell) *------------------------------------------------------------------- Matt James polk@tmbg.org Matt.James.K.Polk@tmbg.org mjames@envy.loyola.edu Loyola College, Baltimore, Maryland, United States of America "Cracking toast, Gromit!" New, Official Bruce Campbell Gazette page: http://www.bcgazette.com ------------------------------ From: mjames@envy.loyola.edu (Matthew James) Subject: TMBG: DLS Date: Wed, 20 Nov 1996 15:09:39 -0500 (EST) My sister was foolin around with my dog, trying to get him to smell stuff yesterday and she said, "Wake up and smell the c..." I thought she was going to say cat food in the bank account, but since she has no clue as to what that song is, she said "Wake up and smell the coffee", which pretty much makes sense, ties us in with our favorite coffee buddies, John & John, and got me slightly excited to think she might actually say that to my dog. How ironic it would have been considering we have a cat and she wouldn't have said that to her. Anyway..onward and upward. Matt -- Member of the ARM since '96 (let's give 'em hell) *------------------------------------------------------------------- Matt James polk@tmbg.org Matt.James.K.Polk@tmbg.org mjames@envy.loyola.edu Loyola College, Baltimore, Maryland, United States of America "Cracking toast, Gromit!" New, Official Bruce Campbell Gazette page: http://www.bcgazette.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Nov 1996 14:27:03 -0600 (CST) From: Bill Tatalovich Subject: Re: TMBG: BOBA MAIL: Cabaret Metro, the debate goes on..... > new album, Apollo 18. If you remember correctly, in Their John Henry > Show, 10/29/94, They play John Henry in sequence, and then They go on > to continue to play a virtual 'best of' show, featuring songs that were > singles and other favourites. [snip] I really don't have any idea on this topics, so bear with me if I'm completely off. I do remember seeing the ads for TMBG playing in Chicago around that time, and I was under the impression that they played three nights in Chicago: one of just John Henry stuff, one of the "old favorites", and one of a "grab bag." Is this the tour you're speaking of? If so, any boots are probably made up of a combination of these shows. Again, I really don't know....I'm just guessing. Bill Tatalovich wt3@cec.wustl.edu ------------------------------ From: Matthew Coon Subject: Re: TMBG: Re: Caberet Metro Bootleg Date: Wed, 20 Nov 1996 15:41:12 -0500 (EST) > > On Wed, 20 Nov 1996, MICHAEL BORNHORST@warnerbros.com wrote: > > They performed the pink album *in order.* If I remember, Flans came out > > and said "It's 1987. They Might Be Giants play thier first gig in Chicago. > > 8 of you are there..." And, if I remember correctly, they introduced the > > songs "Side One, Track One" and so on. They even paused between album sides. > > This lasted about 40 minutes and the guys left the stage. Five minutes > > later they returned and Flans said "Boy, it'd suck if that's all we > > played!" > > Then they went into their Apollo 18 stuff and the usual songs. I've > > Well, if Michael is refering to the same show that we are talking about, I > guess the debate is over, and I guess I lose...oh well. > > > Alex They played two First-Album shows in Chicago in 1992. One was at the end of June (one of two or three different consecutive nights) and the other was ino November. If someone had taped all of them, we would be seeing three different bootlegs (or so), not one "compilation." I was at the June show, and it ran almost *exactly* like the November show, except Spin the Dial was Yellow Submarine instead of Tell Her No. m@t ------------------------------ From: CyburDog@aol.com Date: Wed, 20 Nov 1996 15:43:41 -0500 Subject: Re: TMBG: Talk.com The Talk.com interview has been postponed until 6:45 PST just to let everyone knnow... ------------------------------ From: WarChild@sciboard.spd.louisville.edu Date: 20 Nov 1996 15:50:54 EST Subject: TMBG: Rykodisc *INDY*? I'm sorry... I'd hardly call Rykodisc indie... theyve been around for only about 10 years, yes, but they have big name artists on their label... Elvis Costello, Morphine, and thealmightgodofmusicandbestguitaristever Frank Zappa... ------------------------------ From: mjames@envy.loyola.edu (Matthew James) Subject: Re: TMBG: Talk.com ( Date: Wed, 20 Nov 1996 15:54:12 -0500 (EST) > > The Talk.com interview has been postponed until 6:45 PST > just to let everyone knnow... > Really? The ripe old time of 9:45pm on the east coast? This is excellent! Plenty of time to go to the post office, go to the music store after work, get home, get settled in and get ready for it. Is this a chat? Is this a microphone thing? What is it? Ack lemme look at the web page. Matt do you need an ID for this? -- Member of the ARM since '96 (let's give 'em hell) *------------------------------------------------------------------- Matt James polk@tmbg.org Matt.James.K.Polk@tmbg.org mjames@envy.loyola.edu Loyola College, Baltimore, Maryland, United States of America "Cracking toast, Gromit!" New, Official Bruce Campbell Gazette page: http://www.bcgazette.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Nov 1996 17:02:20 +0000 From: Jonah Subject: TMBG: TMBG oral interp Hello. I have to do an oral interp for my theater class soon, and I was considering doing a TMBG song lyric as my interp. She's An Angel was the first that occured to me, probably because someone already mentioned it on this list as an interp song, but I was wondering if anyone had any ideas for other TMBG songs that would be good oral interps. Think one's with cool meaningful lyrics, lots of lyrics, and not too much repitition. Puppet Head, one of my favorite songs, comes into my head almost immediately. I also think spiraling shape would be pretty cool. Any obvious ones I'm missing? And speaking of TMBG(wait a sec, this is a TMBG list, isn't it?) I've been asked to help provide cool music for a party this saturday. What TMBG songs are easily danceable and will give the other people at the party a chance to listen to some good TMBG other than Birdhouse and Istanbul? -- "Hey, hey, it's OK To never know the answer but ask why"-Cracker Jonah ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Nov 1996 16:16:19 -0500 From: jchaffer@tmbg.org (Jonathan Chaffer) Subject: TMBG: TMBG Chords Archive The web team at www.tmbg.org is looking for someone to help with the chords section of the website. Requirements for the job: * Know HTML * Know about music (read chords and preferably play guitar/piano) * Have access to FTP and Telnet * Be willing to work for free Contact Leo or mail if interested. The backlog of chords is getting pretty big-- we need to get someone working on that part of the site! -- Jonathan Chaffer Student, University of Michigan http://www.tmbg.org/~jchaffer/ ftp/finger (My Mac): tmbg.reshall.umich.edu "Nate, with my brains and your flexibility, we could rule the world!" --Me "Duty now, Spud." --Gnl. Boy "It's a rock gyro thing." --John Linnell ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Nov 1996 16:21:35 -0500 (EST) From: Tom Hare Subject: Re: TMBG: DLS Umm....... Wake up and smell the coffee is the original saying that this line is based on, in kind of the exact opposite way you heard it. It's written so that When you hear "Wake up and smell the c..." You will think They will say 'Coffee' but instead they say 'Cat food.' Just more of TMBG's manipulating of psychology (Gotta love it!!!) *----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Tom Hare - It's not my birthday, so why do you lunge out at me? - TMBG tomhare@freenet3.scri.fsu.edu particle_man@tmbg.org hare@tmbg.org *----------------------------------------------------------------------------- On Wed, 20 Nov 1996, Matthew James wrote: > My sister was foolin around with my dog, trying to get him to smell > stuff yesterday and she said, > "Wake up and smell the c..." > I thought she was going to say cat food in the bank account, but since > she has no clue as to what that song is, she said > "Wake up and smell the coffee", which pretty much makes sense, ties us > in with our favorite coffee buddies, John & John, and got me slightly > excited to think she might actually say that to my dog. How ironic it > would have been considering we have a cat and she wouldn't have said > that to her. Anyway..onward and upward. > Matt > -- > Member of the ARM since '96 (let's give 'em hell) > ------------------------------------------------------------------- > Matt James > polk@tmbg.org Matt.James.K.Polk@tmbg.org mjames@envy.loyola.edu > Loyola College, Baltimore, Maryland, United States of America > "Cracking toast, Gromit!" > New, Official Bruce Campbell Gazette page: http://www.bcgazette.com > ------------------------------ From: Mark Krakauer Date: Wed, 20 Nov 96 16:35:45 EST Subject: Re: TMBG: Ana NG On Nov 16, 3:09am, Ununoctium U. Ununoctium wrote: > Subject: Re: TMBG: Ana NG > On Sat, 16 Nov 1996 02:41:25 +0000 Heather Tinkler > writes: > > >I believe the line," I don't want the world, I just want your half." > >isn't from a bridge, but a talk that They had about money, no less. > > Originally, yes it was from a conversation They once had about > money, but dedicated fans have since painted it on bridges. According to John (I forget which one) somewhere around Boulder Ohio they actually saw the line painted on a bridge and used it in the song. Since then fans have done the rest. Mark ------------------------------ From: Mark Krakauer Date: Wed, 20 Nov 96 16:39:26 EST Subject: TMBG: meet the Johns I've been to a few TMBG concerts but never got to talk to the band afterwords. I was wondering what experiences people have had with this, and if the Johns have ever been around afterwords to talk to fans. Mark ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Nov 1996 16:46:10 -0500 (EST) From: Lawrence P Solomon Subject: Re: TMBG: BOBA MAIL: Cabaret Metro, the debate goes on..... Excerpts from internet.music.tmbg: 20-Nov-96 TMBG: BOBA MAIL: Cabaret Me.. by "BOBA"@anubis.westmorela > singles and other favourites. So, it wouldn't be totally impossible > to think that that show went down like that. Traders, your thoughts? I'm pretty sure it's all one show. I have copies of both of these, and have listened to them lots. The 11/11/92 show would have been far too short had they only played the first album (39 minutes, right?). And the part about promoting Apollo 18 makes perfect sense. I think that's a fairly standard thing, but when John Henry came out, by playing the album straight through, that was the promotion of it. The first album shows were supposed to be special shows as a promotion of TMBG in general, rather than just Apollo 18. I'm assuming that eventually they'll do something similar for Factory Showroom. However, on a totally different note, I came up with an interesting idea for them playing Lincoln (or most of it) at one show... so here's that, for those interested. (I hope the Johns read this and agree :) Lights out on stage. John Linnell walks onto the stage and picks up the accordion. Plays the intro to Kiss Me, Son of God, with spotlight shining on him as he begins to sing. Lights out again. Flansburgh walks onto the stage, picks up the guitar, and begins the guitar intro to the acoustic version of Where Your Eyes Don't Go, again, with the spotlight shining on them (now two of them) when the vocals start. Again, the lights go out. Kurt Hoffman arrives, picks up bass clarinet. He & Linnell play intro to Shoehorn with Teeth, lights come on as vocals begin. Lights out. Graham Maby arrives with bass. Begins Lie Still, Little Bottle, with Flansburgh snapping his fingers, and Linnell & Hoffman on horns. Lights out. Brian Doherty takes his place behind the drums and plays the two beats leading into Purple Toupee. Then they introduce the band as TMBG and go on from there... I think it would be really neat, and it would certainly throw the audience off for a few minutes... I'm sure there's a more interesting way of arranging the arrivals (perhaps doing Shoehorn, Cowtown & Cage and Aquarium during the same sequence, since they have the same instrumentation) Either that or they could play Lincoln all the way through, which would be just as cool. Anyone know if they've ever played Apollo 18 all the way through? ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Nov 1996 16:51:10 -0500 (EST) From: Lawrence P Solomon Subject: Re: TMBG: A18 Cabaret Metro Excerpts from internet.music.tmbg: 20-Nov-96 TMBG: A18 Cabaret Metro by Matthew James@envy.loyol > would make me believe this IS the same show. Think about it, have you > ever been to any concert in your life (TMBG or otherwise) where they > have played the same song at the same concert? Now, thinking back, the At the New Years show in 1989/1990 (or was it 1988/1989?) they played Space Suit twice... once before midnight, once after. In August, they apparently played Shoehorn with Teeth twice at some of the shows (not 9:30, though) - once normally and once really fast. Can anyone back this up? Not to mention numerous occasions where thinking on the spot failed and they sang the same verse of a song twice (Flans did this during Your Racist Friend at Wolf Trap, Vienna, VA in 1994) I believe there have also been some shows where they played both the slow and fast versions of Why Does the Sun Shine, but have no tapes of any such concerts. ------------------------------ From: tom@Mail.Coast.NET (Thomas Earl!) Date: Wed, 20 Nov 1996 16:52:20 -0500 (EST) Subject: TMBG: TMBG and RA? Greetings to you all... Has anybody heard of TMBG doing anything over Real Audio? Interviews, Live playing... SOMETHING, ANYTHING!!! Please let me know, Thanks, Tom -- *------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Tom Earl "Reality is a cop-out for people who Network Engineer can't handle drugs" Coast to Coast Telecommuncations Clarkson, Michigan +1.800.900.9960 http://www.coast.net Tom@coast.net http://www.games.coast.net *------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ From: NitpickR@aol.com Date: Wed, 20 Nov 1996 16:54:30 -0500 Subject: TMBG: Lincoln etchings Hello 41- This is so cool!!!!!!! Someone asked me if there was anything on the actual Lincoln record itself, and I knew that two of the symbols on the CD were on it, so I went to look. Then, I noticed there was something carved into it, because it glared off my light. It says on side A: S-20476 72600-1-A "I don't want the world" [a triangle] 22396 Jared 1-1 Dan On the other side it has: Ryan 1-1 [a triangle] 22396-X 72600-1-A S-20476 "I just want your half". Cool!!!! Does anyone know what most of that means? I'd love to know... *^*x@)#<}x{>#(@*^*13~Blue~TMBG~Word~Simpsons*^*@)#<}x{>#(@x*^* I don't know dick about art, but something was definatley wrong with this picture. -Kinky Friedman Adam's do It yourself .sIg fIle ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Nov 1996 16:53:36 -0500 (EST) From: Lawrence P Solomon Subject: Re: TMBG: Nit needs help placing a show Excerpts from internet.music.tmbg: 20-Nov-85 Re: TMBG: Nit needs help pl.. by Evan Chakroff@ix.netcom. > For variety sake. Do you go to a concert wanting to hear the song exactly > as it appears on the album? I'm sure they like to change it around a little > bit also. But horns? Variety's sake, to me, at least as far as Chess Piece Face is concerned, would be the accordion/vocal arrangement they used to play. Now it is a bit more like the album version, with the horns taking the place of the organ, and, IMHO, it sounds really terrible. (like on Live in NY) I also find it odd that the album versions of Istanbul, Your Racist Friend, Ana Ng, Metal Detector, and James K. Polk have accordion in them, and yet the live versions do not (anymore - the first three always used to - up until about 1994) ------------------------------ From: Creighton.Blinn@oberlin.edu Date: Wed, 20 Nov 1996 16:28:40 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: TMBG: TMBG oral interp you may want to try "I Palindrome I" for your lyric interp. it's a great song, and seems like you go various fun ways with it. just a suggestion, though. from the Dreaming, creighton ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Nov 1996 16:13:21 -0600 (CST) From: Bill Tatalovich Subject: Re: TMBG: meet the Johns > I've been to a few TMBG concerts but never got to talk to the band > afterwords. I was wondering what experiences people have had with this, and > if the Johns have ever been around afterwords to talk to fans. > I talked to Flansburgh after a show in Cincinnati on the Why Does the Sun Shine tour, and basically all we talked about was the EP they had put out (I bought it at the show, and he signed it for me--we talked about Jessica and Whirlpool, and why They had chosen those songs to cover), and about the merits and demerits of freshly-squeezed orange juice. I had also become violently ill right before I spoke with him (and before I knew that I was going to talk with him, so it wasn't a star-sickness thing), so we didn't talk too long. Oh yeah, and Linnell ran away. Just so you know. Anyways, that was my brush with TMBG...hope you appreciated it. See y'all around. Bill Tatalovich wt3@cec.wustl.edu "Because there's forty different shades of black, So many fortresses and ways to attack..." --Pavement ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Nov 1996 16:22:31 -0600 (CST) From: Bill Tatalovich Subject: Re: TMBG: A18 Cabaret Metro > > would make me believe this IS the same show. Think about it, have you > > ever been to any concert in your life (TMBG or otherwise) where they > > have played the same song at the same concert? Now, thinking back, the > I have a copy of a They show in New York City at the beginning of this year (actually, I have the shows from 3/14/96 and 3/28/96, both at the same place in NYC--I'm speaking of the 3/14 version, I think) in which they play "The Famous Polka" three times; once normally, once at superfast speed, and one "CD-skip" version. At the other show, they played it twice; once normally, one "CD-skip". So yes, They do play songs more than once in a single concert....just to let you know. BTW, both of these shows are very cool...versions of "They Got Lost" (yeah!!!!), "Reprehensible", "Sensurround", "Unforgotten" (?), "Older" (aka Time Marches On), "Counterfeit Faker", and "On the Drag". They also played some stuff from FS, which makes it pretty cool too. Just letting y'all know. Bill Tatalovich wt3@cec.wustl.edu "Time marches on...and time is still marching on..." ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Nov 1996 17:43:13 -0500 From: cyberguy@netheaven.com (cyberguy) Subject: TMBG: Larry Sandres show While listening to the radio, the dj said that TMBG is appearing on the LArry Sanders show TONIGHT!!!! I'm watching. Don't interrupt me as I struggle to complete this thought- TMBG ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Nov 1996 17:48:03 -0500 (EST) From: MIKe Rose to the rescue Subject: Re: TMBG: meet the Johns On Wed, 20 Nov 1996, Mark Krakauer wrote: > I've been to a few TMBG concerts but never got to talk to the band > afterwords. I was wondering what experiences people have had with this, and > if the Johns have ever been around afterwords to talk to fans. > > Mark In Toronto in April 1992, Flans came out after the show and signed the back of a shirt for me as well as an 8X10 of John and John. I chatted with him briefly, and it was kinda cool how he turned me around and put the shirt over my back and gouged his name into my body, sort of. At subsequent shows John and John were nowhere to be found, though I did get a chance in PA in April 1996 to say hi to them as they were making for the car, and basically the same thing happened in Rhode Island in September of this year, though I got much much closer that time. I did have an extended conversation with Brian Doherty in Albany, but you can read about that on my web page. MIKe http://www.yucc.yorku.ca/~flippy where all your answers are questioned ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Nov 1996 17:51:12 -0500 (EST) From: Nathan Smith Subject: TMBG: recordings I am going to the three shows in Ohio and I was wondering about making copies of the show. What is the best way to bootleg the TMBG concerts. Also, where is the best place to go to get some bootlegs of concerts. I am also interested in getting a copy of the demo tape if anyone out there is willing to give me a copy. And thanks to all the people that helped me to get the hidden track. I tried to rewind on three different CD players and a computer. I finally got it to work on my portable CD player. That shoots the idea of better technology is actually better. Crazy kid ---===Nathan ------------------------------ Subject: Re: TMBG: fencing From: java.man@juno.com (Tim B Lloyd) Date: Wed, 20 Nov 1996 18:15:21 EST >I would be interested to know which weapons >you fence in, all those fencers out there, and >in a complete deviation to the subject of the >list, if any of you waould like to give me >some advice in deciding which weapons to >specialise in (I do all three, foil, sabre and >eppee, but am pretty poor at all of them.) >then please drop me a line. Thanks, and sorry >for all those non-fencers who've just read >through all this for no good reason! > >The Moog! > > Hee hee hee. Off-topic threads... I'm an amateur fencer, and in the 2 years I've fenced, I've done only foil fencing. I may be trying sabre sometime soon, just cause it gives more freedom and it looks cooler. I don't know. Back on TMBG: Where can I get other videos of Theirs (other meaning not on the first Elektra video tape)? I still haven't seen Birdhouse. java.man ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Nov 1996 18:29:05 -0500 (EST) From: MIKe Rose to the rescue Subject: TMBG: Surprise. On October 19, I posted to the list about a 44 song TMBG compilation I made for a friend of mine. I found out last week that he still hasn't listened to it. So yeah, I don't feel like I wasted my time _one bit_. There isn't really anything new on my web page but I recommend going there anyway. It's a good way to kill three or four hours and come out feeling like your head has been pulled through the bottom of a shopping cart. MIKe http://www.yucc.yorku.ca/~flippy where all your answers are questioned ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Nov 1996 18:33:03 -0500 (EST) From: Benjamin Hauck Subject: TMBG: Artificial TMBG Digest 8/27/95 (fwd) Nostalgia, ahhhhhhhh. Ben or Been here. Remember this? Hi, Jonathan! BooYa, Ben or Been ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Sun, 27 Aug 1995 15:37:10 -0600 From: Jonathan Chaffer To: They-Might-Be-Lactated@chicken.wings.net Subject: Artificial TMBG Digest 8/27/95 Welcome to the Artificial TMBG Mailing List! It has now been nearly a year since the Great Johns accepted applications to their Rhythm Section Want Ad and released John Henry. It has also been about half a year since the digest became defunct. I, for one, can't stand being without a digest for this long. Hence, the Artificial list. How it works: Send mail to me (Jonathan.Chaffer@cmich.edu) with the letters TMBG as the first word in the subject. I'll stick all such messages together manually and send them out to all subscribers. To unsubscribe? Just send a message to me to that effect. Please note that this will be a moderate pain for me to administer, and as such will only be a temporary arrangement. However, the list *should* run smoothly even though it will be non-automated. It will be moderated (loosely) by me so you won't have to sort through unsubscription messages. If this arrangement sounds sucky to you, tough. Fix the situation by setting up a majordomo, dammit! Anyway, it should be up and running now. Hope this works! TTFN --Jonathan *****End of Artificial TMBG Digest***** **************************************************************** Jonathan Chaffer Rabidchild on RealmsMud jonathan.chaffer@cmich.edu Telnet realms.dorsai.org 1501 -----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK----- Version: 3.1 GM/MU d-(--) s++:--->++:- a--- C++ U--- P--- !L E? W++>+++ N- o? K+ W--- !O M+++++$ !V PS-- PE+ Y+ PGP- t+ 5? X? R+/C tv b++ @DI !D G++ e*>++++ r y- ------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------ ------------------------------ From: CWLKNSN@wvnvaxa.wvnet.edu Date: Wed, 20 Nov 1996 18:37:12 -0500 (EST) Subject: TMBG: ok i now have THE poster Organization: West Virginia Network i don't want to do a bidding war for it so this is how i am going to solve who to send it to tell me what pirates you think its worth and a good reason why you deserve to poster. i am going to arbitrarily decide who gets it. the deadline is tomorrow evening sam thats thursday around whenever i log on so try to reach me before 4 pm et ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Nov 1996 19:42:28 -0500 (EST) From: MIKe Rose to the rescue Subject: Re: TMBG: Artificial TMBG Digest 8/27/95 (fwd) On Wed, 20 Nov 1996, Benjamin Hauck wrote: > > Nostalgia, ahhhhhhhh. > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > Date: Sun, 27 Aug 1995 15:37:10 -0600 > From: Jonathan Chaffer > To: They-Might-Be-Lactated@chicken.wings.net > Subject: Artificial TMBG Digest 8/27/95 > > Welcome to the Artificial TMBG Mailing List! Hey this is pretty cool, this list was born on my 22nd birthday. :) MIKe http://www.yucc.yorku.ca/~flippy where all your answers are questioned ------------------------------ From: Leo Bicknell Subject: TMBG: New job. Date: Wed, 20 Nov 1996 19:49:59 -0500 (EST) I'd like to inform the list of a personal matter. Next month I will graduate from Virginia Tech. I have taken a job with Dimension Enterprises (www.dimension.net) in Herndon VA. I'm not quite sure yet what I will be doing for Internet access up there. I hope to be able to continue the mailing lists and web sites as they exist now but I am not quite sure yet if that will be possible, at least right away. At the minimum there will be some down time when I move. Just thought you guys might like some advance warning. -- Leo Bicknell - TMBG List Admin - tmbg-list-request@tmbg.org System Administrator / Network Technician bicknell@ufp.org - bicknell@vt.edu - bicknell@tmbg.org ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Nov 1996 15:05:51 -0800 (PST) From: "Jonathan Lee Wilson (Jon Wilson)" Subject: Re: TMBG: Larry Sandres show Yes! I was hoping it was tonight. For any who don't know it is on at 10pm on HBO. I have to go to my friends to watch it. It will be great cause on this show the bands usually interact with the cast and do little bit scenes with them. I hope they play something other than SEXXY! I don't mind the song that much but I already have it recorded from Conan! Doogie On Wed, 20 Nov 1996, cyberguy wrote: > While listening to the radio, the dj said that TMBG is appearing on the > LArry Sanders show TONIGHT!!!! I'm watching. > > Don't interrupt me as I struggle to complete this thought- TMBG > > ------------------------------ From: Matthew Coon Subject: Re: TMBG: meet the Johns Date: Wed, 20 Nov 1996 20:28:00 -0500 (EST) > > I've been to a few TMBG concerts but never got to talk to the band > afterwords. I was wondering what experiences people have had with this, and > if the Johns have ever been around afterwords to talk to fans. > > Linnell has made himself scarce after shows as far back as my TMBG concert memory goes (which is 1990). Flans almost *always* came out after shows to chat and sign autographs through the A18 tour (1992). He came out frequently to sign, but to chat less, through the John Henry Mini-Tour, and has become steadily more scarce after shows. I haven't seen him mingle for ages. Having watched what he generally had to put up with when he did come out between '92 and '94, I can understand why... m@t ------------------------------ From: mjames@greed.loyola.edu (Matthew James) Subject: TMBG: Grease Date: Wed, 20 Nov 1996 20:27:05 -0500 (EST) The Greaseman played SEXXY on his show today! He only played the beginning part, though, but he was gettin into the groove. Matt -- Member of the ARM since '96 (let's give 'em hell) *------------------------------------------------------------------- Matt James polk@tmbg.org Matt.James.K.Polk@tmbg.org mjames@envy.loyola.edu Loyola College, Baltimore, Maryland, United States of America "Cracking toast, Gromit!" New, Official Bruce Campbell Gazette page: http://www.bcgazette.com ------------------------------ From: Matthew Coon Subject: Re: TMBG: Nit needs help placing a show Date: Wed, 20 Nov 1996 20:39:46 -0500 (EST) > > After listening to this tape again, I have found a few more things that > bother me. First of all, near the end of side one, just before They play > The Day, Linnell is clearly heard saying that this is the end of the show, > thanks for coming, etc...In fact, he says that this was a 40 minute long show! > He was *joking*, with the joke being that the show is almost over because they've nearly reached the end of the pink album (and that the show would only be 40min long...) > Second, when side two starts up, there is a very short and quick sound bite > of Flans (I think) saying something like "we're gonna do a song that we've > never played before...". This sound bite is abruptly cut off, and Spin The > Dial begins, almost in 'mid-Dial'. The bit of Flans sounds like the > continuation of the Debut album show from the first side...maybe an encore, > or something, and the Spin The Dial seems really out of place. > The sound is cut off because Andy stopped the tape while Flans was filtering through the radio dial, in order to conserve space. He started the tape again when he realized that they were settling on Tell Her No. > I'm now almost positive that these are two different shows, and will remain > firm in my belief until I see some hard evidence to the contrary. > There is no hard evidence (other than the tape), but this show is almost *exactly* like other first-album shows of that era that I attended. There is no mystery. m@t ------------------------------ From: mjames@greed.loyola.edu (Matthew James) Subject: TMBG: chatting? Date: Wed, 20 Nov 1996 20:40:23 -0500 (EST) Is it possible to chat through a microphone over Real Audio? I assume that they will be using Real Audio for the interview tonight. But how do you go about chatting on this? Hmm will have to look out as the event comes closer. Matt -- Member of the ARM since '96 (let's give 'em hell) *------------------------------------------------------------------- Matt James polk@tmbg.org Matt.James.K.Polk@tmbg.org mjames@envy.loyola.edu Loyola College, Baltimore, Maryland, United States of America "Cracking toast, Gromit!" New, Official Bruce Campbell Gazette page: http://www.bcgazette.com ------------------------------ From: Matthew Coon Subject: Re: TMBG: Nit needs help placing a show Date: Wed, 20 Nov 1996 20:45:09 -0500 (EST) > > Excerpts from internet.music.tmbg: 19-Nov-96 Re: TMBG: Nit needs help > p.. by Matthew Coon@omni.cc.pur > > you will hear the full band. They did stick very closely to the album > > arrangements, but Chess Piece Face, for instance, should have horns. > ^^^ > Um. It doesn't have horns on the album, why should it have them in concert? > > Yes, it's a deviation. Hence the word "but" - an example of how it was *different* with the full band, in order to prove to naysayers that there was indeed a full band present. The keyboard part with the simultaneous upward and downward glissandos was replaced live with simultaneous ascending and descending chromatic horn parts. As for why, apparently they wanted it that way. m@t ------------------------------ Subject: Re: TMBG: fencing From: exquisitedeadguy@juno.com (Dragon Lord) Date: Wed, 20 Nov 1996 20:02:51 EST On Tue, 19 Nov 1996 18:19:05 EST java.man@juno.com (Tim B Lloyd) writes: >On Tue, 19 Nov 1996 17:38:49 -0500 (EST) mjames@envy.loyola.edu >(Matthew James) writes: >>I used to be a fencer, LONG LIVE FENCERS! It is a lot of fun, but >>difficult. I saw a tournament once as well and that was pretty Fencing is cool but I am more of a fan of Japanese style sword fighting. I also like English Double sided, two handed, straight sword fighting. I might take Jung Fu or something like that some day. What do you think sirs? _________________________________________________________ "Those who heed my words are more a fool than anyone"-Me E-mail me at Muad.dib@juno.com for non-TMBG stuff. All my grammer and spelling is subject to mutilation. _________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ From: CyburDog@aol.com Date: Wed, 20 Nov 1996 20:47:29 -0500 Subject: Re: TMBG: Lincoln etchings NitpickR@aol.com was HORNSWAGLED INTO SAYING << This is so cool!!!!!!! Someone asked me if there was anything on the actual Lincoln record itself, and I knew that two of the symbols on the CD were on it, so I went to look. Then, I noticed there was something carved into it, because it glared off my light. It says on side A: S-20476 72600-1-A "I don't want the world" [a triangle] 22396 Jared 1-1 Dan On the other side it has: Ryan 1-1 [a triangle] 22396-X 72600-1-A S-20476 "I just want your half". Cool!!!! Does anyone know what most of that means? I'd love to know... >> So the DOG set 'im right by sayin' Is that on the tape or the CD or the case or what??? ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Nov 1996 21:22:45 -0500 From: cyberguy@netheaven.com (cyberguy) Subject: TMBG: Larry Sanders reruns. If you miss Larry Sanders tonight, you can see it on these dates (direct from www.hbo.com) "My Name is Asher Kingsley" #66--Premiere: 10:00PM, November 20, 1996 Hank rediscovers his Judaism and drives the staff crazy. Replay: 4:35AM, Thursday, November 21, 1996 Replay: 2:05AM, Sunday, November 24, 1996 Replay:1:55AM, Monday, November 25, 1996 I, unfortunatley will be missing it tonight. However, when I read the digested list tomorrow (I only get the digested one) I will probabaly see many reviews on it. Don't interrupt me as I struggle to complete this thought- TMBG ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Nov 1996 18:34:52 -0800 From: Dave and/or Carol Gooch Organization: People That Think Judgemental People Suck Subject: TMBG:Meet J. Sidney Just a little interesting sidenote I noticed while doing research for a report on James Ensor. Ensor's middle name is Sidney, the same as Linnell's. Also, Ensor had a lot of works dealing with skeletons and skulls and the like and They had some songs (and an EP title) dealing with skulls. Possibly reasons why They chose Ensor? Probably not, but interesting anyway (slightly). -- Dave Gooch -- "Sure, I could've stayed in the past...could've even been king. But in my own way, I am king. Hail to the King baby." -- Ash, Army of Darkness ------------------------------ From: mjames@greed.loyola.edu (Matthew James) Subject: TMBG: real audio chat Date: Wed, 20 Nov 1996 21:32:15 -0500 (EST) hmm I can't seem to figure out what to do. The talk.com page just says Return Here to litsen to the RealAudio interview and to chat. Do we have to open a location in RealAudio? I wish they'd explain things better. -- Member of the ARM since '96 (let's give 'em hell) *------------------------------------------------------------------- Matt James polk@tmbg.org Matt.James.K.Polk@tmbg.org mjames@envy.loyola.edu Loyola College, Baltimore, Maryland, United States of America "Cracking toast, Gromit!" New, Official Bruce Campbell Gazette page: http://www.bcgazette.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Nov 1996 21:43:45 -0500 (EST) From: Lawrence P Solomon Subject: Re: TMBG: Re: Caberet Metro Bootleg Excerpts from internet.music.tmbg: 20-Nov-96 Re: TMBG: Re: Caberet Metr.. by Matthew Coon@omni.cc.pur > They played two First-Album shows in Chicago in 1992. One was at the end of > June (one of two or three different consecutive nights) and the other was > ino November. If someone had taped all of them, we would be seeing three > different bootlegs (or so), not one "compilation." I was at the June show, > and it ran almost *exactly* like the November show, except Spin the Dial > was Yellow Submarine instead of Tell Her No. Actually, the two shows were 10/22/92 and 11/11/92. (if there were only two - there may have been more) I have a tape of a show from 10/18 when they announced that on the 22nd they'd be playing the first album straight through. These were part of an 8 day string of TMBG concerts at the Variety Arts Theater in NYC, all fairly unique in many different ways. The one I've got a tape of does not include Birdhouse in Your Soul, which was extremely unusual. According to what they had said a month earlier, this 8 day event had been dubbed "Rocktoberfest, because we couldn't think of a better name." (Flans, 9/19/92) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Nov 1996 21:48:35 -0500 (EST) From: Lawrence P Solomon Subject: Re: TMBG: Nit needs help placing a show Excerpts from internet.music.tmbg: 20-Nov-96 Re: TMBG: Nit needs help pl.. by Matthew Coon@omni.cc.pur > Yes, it's a deviation. Hence the word "but" - an example of how it was > *different* with the full band, in order to prove to naysayers that there > was indeed a full band present. The keyboard part with the simultaneous > upward and downward glissandos was replaced live with simultaneous > ascending and descending chromatic horn parts. Actually, in 1992, they only had one other horn player - Kurt Hoffman. (I've heard a version of Shoehorn with Teeth that they did from that period that sounded almost exactly like the album version, with the bass clarinet and the baritone sax... minus the accordion, but Linnell isn't *that* talented). So they couldn't do that arrangement of CPF. When they got a trumpet player, too, though, that changed, and they rearranged it. Also, it would be possible, but probably very difficult, to program most good quality electronic keyboards to, when two F minor (it is in F minor, right?) chords are held like that, bend one up and the other down until they have switched octaves..... that's how I sequenced it anyway... ------------------------------ From: SAIDLER@uwplatt.edu Date: Wed, 20 Nov 1996 21:12:50 -0600 (CST) Subject: TMBG: real audio My real audio doesn't work!!! I went to the chat thing, but the sound is all garbled and messed up!!! All I could make out was the word culture. How awful! -Heather ------------------------------ From: gonk@valley.net Date: Wed, 20 Nov 1996 22:31:14 -0500 Subject: TMBG: Larry Sanders I just finished watching the Larry Sanders show. Although it was funny, the TMBG performance was rather weak. 5/6 of it was covered by dialouge and they sang the around the clock line before every verse. No strings, 2 horns, nothing. I hope they never go back. Funny show though ------------------------------ From: mjames@greed.loyola.edu (Matthew James) Subject: TMBG: chatting Date: Wed, 20 Nov 1996 22:34:45 -0500 (EST) i got the audio to work but i cant figure out how to get into the chat serction. iy;s so complex oh well -- Member of the ARM since '96 (let's give 'em hell) *------------------------------------------------------------------- Matt James polk@tmbg.org Matt.James.K.Polk@tmbg.org mjames@envy.loyola.edu Loyola College, Baltimore, Maryland, United States of America "Cracking toast, Gromit!" New, Official Bruce Campbell Gazette page: http://www.bcgazette.com ------------------------------ From: CyburDog@aol.com Date: Wed, 20 Nov 1996 22:41:32 -0500 Subject: Re: TMBG: chatting you need to have Java to chat at talk.com.... It is an internet add on... I don't have it either.... Oh well. the interview is pretty good by itself though... ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Nov 96 04:12:59 UT From: "Andreas Baeuchle" Subject: RE: TMBG: Larry Sandres show Hey I watched some of it. All I saw was THEY playing the begining and the end of SEXXY. Was this their only part? I have it on tape if I need to go back. ASB ---------- From: owner-tmbg-list@ussodyssey.ufp.org on behalf of cyberguy Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 1996 5:43 PM To: tmbg-list@tmbg.org Subject: TMBG: Larry Sandres show While listening to the radio, the dj said that TMBG is appearing on the LArry Sanders show TONIGHT!!!! I'm watching. Don't interrupt me as I struggle to complete this thought- TMBG ------------------------------ From: Christi587@aol.com Date: Wed, 20 Nov 1996 23:57:14 -0500 Subject: TMBG: TMBG on Larry Sanders =) My AOL browser had been acting up all night (what else is new) and couldn't get me to the real audio chat. I restrained myself from bludgeoning my modem and instead left to watch Larry Sanders. As I sat down, I thought I might as well put a tape in and record it ("just in case a miracle happens"), and midway through the show-- a miracle! So basically, I owe my shiny new TMBG tape to my crap browser. Strange how these things work out. They were only on for about 15 seconds total. The rest of the time they played in the background of a very boring scene. "You kept the camera on Elvis Costello for three whole minutes!!!" I screamed at the TV. "Why can't you focus on an actual *band* for more than 5 seconds straight?!?" Alas. But the tape I got is pretty good quality, and trade offers are always received with a smile. Um... and if anyone has a transcript of the real audio chat I missed, I promise to be your best friend if you send it to me. :) --Christy P.S. Whoever it was who promised me that Clarissa tape eons ago... I have managed to lose not only your e-mail address but also your name. So, mysterious one, Thanksgiving is coming up soon and I'd appreciate it if you dropped me a note. Thanks! ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Nov 1996 21:58:58 -0800 From: Yossarian Organization: United Federation of Planets Subject: TMBG: Re: A Different Reason For Unpopular S-E-X-X-Y & XVAA I am getting very annoyed at all these people who think that since they like sexxy and XTCvAA they are better than the rest of us. I love FS. I am very pleased with the fact that They are branching out, being part of the reason I love it. My least favorite song on the album is Token Back to Brooklyn. Then XTCvAA, then SEXXY, then James K. Polk (II), then The Ringing of the Bells. All the rest of the songs I have fallen in love with. SEXXY: the tune is annoying. I don't care how many strings it has. I don't care if it sounds like old TMBG. (I love Pet Name and it sounds nothing like "old" TMBG) The bottom line is that the tune is annoying. The chorus is repetitive. It's not fun to sing with. I could go on. I don't hate SEXXY, I just can't get carried away with it. It's boring and uninteresting. XTCvAA: Extremely annoying and repetitive tune, in the fashion of I Should Be Allowed to Think (note, I am speaking out against a "typical" and beloved TMBG song because I don't like it. It is annoying.). The song is boring. I can't get wrapped up with any kind of emotion in it. I don't care if it has strings in it. I don't care if it sounds like "typical" TMBG. I like many bands that sound nothing like TMBG. I am 16. I don't care about underlying musical bullshit or all that stuff you guys crap about. It's like reading some Rolling Stone review. They always talk about what their playing sounds like, what they compare it to, a whole buch of snobbery bullshit. All I care about is if a song has a good tune, a lot of emotoin behind it, and intelligent lyrics. If you guys want to like these songs, I don't care. There is no theory behind why people don't like these songs. It has nothing to do with strings, age, genre, previous Tmbg or any thing else but one thing: They don't like it. Plain and simple, the songs are not good to some people. some people like them. I can respect your opinion if you will grant me the same courtesy. Thank you. *a note from Yossarian* ------------------------------ End of tmbg-list Digest #2-319 ******************************