Errors-To: owner-tmbg-digest@tmbg.org Reply-To: tmbg-digest@tmbg.org Sender: owner-tmbg-digest@tmbg.org Precedence: bulk From: owner-tmbg-digest@tmbg.org To: tmbg-digest@tmbg.org Subject: tmbg-list Digest #3-89 tmbg-list Digest, Volume 3, Number 89 Sunday, 30 March 1997 Today's Topics: TMBG: Acronyms, old threads, arranging, children, relative Re: TMBG: Sheet Music (fwd) Re: TMBG: Acronyms, old threads, arranging, children, relative Re: Non-TMBG: Color Gaurd TMBG: All sorts of wacky thoughts! TMBG: Another "is TMBG a ska band or what?" thread TMBG: Then,and more TMBG: Then for Rabbits... TMBG: list #3-82 TMBG: this is TMBG related due to the friggin NON-TMBG related posts TMBG: THEN... TMBG: Acronyms NON TMBG: Bleah. TMBG: Dial-A-Song Online page works again. Re: TMBG: Re: Then: Cool stuff from Tower TMBG: TMBG SHOW AT BOHAGER'S (BALTIMORE) ON APRIL 19 Re: TMBG: Acronyms TMBG: Mailing list hats/mousepads RE: TMBG: ACRNYMS NonTMBG: Cryptographic Cypher Re: TMBG: AKA vs. AKA (non TMBG... sowwy) TMBG: Statue, Then TMBG: non-TMBG Colour Guard Re: TMBG: Statue, Then Re: TMBG: Statue, Then Re: TMBG: Sheet Music Re: TMBG: marching bands, Then (long) TMBG: MP3 RE: TMBG: Mailing list hats/mousepads Re: TMBG: MP3 TMBG: OMLTs, etc TMBG: TMBG : istanbul--janet TMBG: Suprise, Suprise Administrivia: If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing send mail to tmbg-digest-request@tmbg.org for instructions on how to be automatically removed. --------------------------------------------------------------------- The views expressed herein are those of the individual authors. --------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 29 Mar 1997 04:32:18 -0500 (EST) From: Amy Greenlese Subject: TMBG: Acronyms, old threads, arranging, children, relative Message-ID: Joel happily told us: > Okay, I spent all of last night doing this. First Iam putting in the > text version of ACRONYM to SONG, after that will be SONG TO ACRONYM. > c1997 Joel Gedalius =) You forgot one: TMTOMH (here, let me sing it for you: o/~ Too much time on my haaaaaaands....o/~) Lawrence was smart enough to think: > Why not use reasonable "set list abbreviations" instead? This seems much easier, and besides, the Johns do it ;) Trippy corrected himself by saying: > oops i didn't mean to imply that TMBG was a ska band... it was just a > grammatical anomaly (sp?) THANK YOU -- as I read your first post, all I could do was groan and think "oh no, not another 'is TMBG a ska band or what?' thread!!!" Please, don't let's start that again!!! Bill observed that: > Okay, looking at that, you see that there are thirteen different pitched > parts. Counting parts within a section, you have 21 different parts. > But the problem is that the average TMBG song (we'll use "No One Knows > My Plan" as an example...it has more parts than most TMBG songs) doesn't > have that many parts. Most songs don't have that many parts, and even with a jazz ensemble some parts are doubled. I encountered this problem in a fun class last year called "orchestration". What you do is double instruments that sound the same or that are not very powerful (like saxes and F horns, clarinets and trumpets, baritones and trombones) Lawrence came back to say: > School Children singing I Should Be Allowed to Think > School Children singing S-E-X-X-Y. Hahahahha! You know, the first time I heard the kids singing Particle Man, I thought wow, what a stupid thing to put on das. Then I remembered: if all goes well, I'll be an elementary music teacher in about a year! I could have done Particle Man with my class! Now I guess I'll have to do S-E-X-X-Y ;) > 25. Birdhouse in Your Soul (original Dial-a-Song version) "I don't feel 300.....give me something to write on!" I had a very weird thing happen to me today. I got email from a relative I didn't know I had! As if that was not weird enough, he mentioned that his brother was a big TMBG fan, and his band does some TMBG songs. And I thought my family didn't understand! :) Amy :) cowtown@tmbg.org Her eyes were like two brown circles with big black dots in the center. (Russell Beland) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Mar 97 03:11:56 EST From: "Anne E. Heidemann" <343SXVT@CMUVM.CSV.CMICH.EDU> Organization: Central Michigan University Subject: Re: TMBG: Sheet Music (fwd) Message-Id: <970329.031417.EST.343SXVT@CMUVM.CSV.CMICH.EDU> > >> Does anyone know if TMB Productions is coming out with a sheet music >> collection or something? I would love to play Birdhouse. That would be >> cool. I know we allready have all the chords and stuff, but I want to play >> it on the piano. >> >> Joel >> >you can play it on the piano if you know the melody and the >chords--there's three ways (i can think of that is) to play piano --as >written, which is where you play the note as they appear on the page; >ear which is where you listen to it and then figure out the notes; and by >chord, where you play the chord along with the highest keys of the >melody--most sheet music is piano/guitar and those guitar chords that >appear above the staff can be used on piano also...dont know if this was >helpful in the slightest way, but ummm..yeah. > >shoehorn with teethmikes >(it'd be funnier if my name was mark) >{ :) } i have the sheet music to "birdhouse," which i ordered years ago through the mailing list. i would be willing to copy it for peeps if you send me a treat in return! :D peace, anne ************************************************************ *** Anne Heidemann *** *** anne.e.heidemann@cmich.edu *** *** 343sxvt@cmuvm.csv.cmich.edu *** *** http://www.cmich.edu/~343sxvt *** *** *** *** *** *** "Let your mind go and your body will follow." *** *** --L.A. Story *** ************************************************************ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Mar 1997 04:05:10 -0600 (CST) From: Bill Tatalovich Subject: Re: TMBG: Acronyms, old threads, arranging, children, relative Message-ID: > > Okay, looking at that, you see that there are thirteen different pitched > > parts. Counting parts within a section, you have 21 different parts. > > But the problem is that the average TMBG song (we'll use "No One Knows > > My Plan" as an example...it has more parts than most TMBG songs) doesn't > > have that many parts. > Most songs don't have that many parts, and even with a jazz ensemble some > parts are doubled. I encountered this problem in a fun class last year > called "orchestration". What you do is double instruments that sound the > same or that are not very powerful (like saxes and F horns, clarinets and > trumpets, baritones and trombones) Well, what I'm saying about all of this (several people have made this observation, so I'm responding to all of you) is that with 13 different instruments to fill and about five different parts to fill (more or less), I understand there will be a lot of doubling. But the fact is that TMBG songs do not dynamically change in terms of texture of instrumentation and everything. Maybe if you're lucky you get a bridge that has a different feel to it, but that's it. In my example of NOKMP, say you gave the horn line in the song (the one started by the solo trumpet) to the trumpets, clarinets, and trombones. Those people would be bored to hell playing a part like that for a while, as would any audience listening to it. Yeah, you could switch it to, say, the sax section and the flutes during a loud section to allow the trumpets to do their thing, but you still have the same little ditty repeated over and over. Most marching band songs (at least the ones that are really successful and exciting...see the Centerville Jazz Band 1992 show for an example :) ...jesus, that was amazing, and not just because I was playing it) have some sort of flow, where every instrument plays a distinctly different part at some point. There's just not enough substance in a TMBG song to make a truly successful marching band show. I'm sorry. But as I said....jazz ensembles....that's the way to go. Okay, see ya. Bill Tatalovich wt3@cec.wustl.edu ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Mar 1997 06:39:12 -0500 (EST) From: Elitza Nicolaou Subject: Re: Non-TMBG: Color Gaurd Message-ID: > > > all this talk about color gaurd, but no one's mentioning marching > > band.... > > > what's wrong with you people.... -ec > > > > Marching Band is a given! > > > > Harlan Landes > > Music Instructor, University of Delaware Marching Band > > http://www.udel.edu/music/mb/ > > Although I have no animosity towards the bands of marchers, > I live right next door to a field where one plays every morning..and > way before I have to get up. > > Mike "REALLY tired of the School Theme Song" Leffel > YEAH!!!!!!!! My school's marching band can be faintly heard at my house on most Wednesday evenings. This is not such an odd thing until you take into account that I live about 5 miles from the marching band practice field. Luckily its *very* faint and in the evening, and only for about 3 months right at the beginning of the school year. Elitza "Enough Harry Connick Jr. and Louie Louie!" Nicolaou ...and jeez, three identical lacrosse-playing drum majors? Enough already! It's sometimes very funny because two or three clarinets will occasionally burst into Ana Ng....however they are each promptly beaten over the head with tenor saxes. Pity. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Mar 1997 09:20:27 -0500 From: "Big.Bad.Robbie.G." Subject: TMBG: All sorts of wacky thoughts! Message-Id: Ok, I've been quiet for a few days now, so I decided that now would be as good a time as any to shoot off absolutley anything that comes into my head. 1. Upon recently recieving Cartoon Network, I decided to watch cartoon planet, thinking that maybe, just maybe, they'd bring No one knows my plan back as the opening theme song. Well, I ended up turning on a half hour early, and I was delighted to find myself watching Space Ghost Coast to Coast, which I belive is one of the funniest shows on television. But anyway, about 5 minutes before planet came on, there was an ad for it, and they did play No One Knows My Plan! I was so pumped, but then i watched the show. I'm quite glad they don't disgrace TMBG with having it on cartoon planet. It's terrible. 2. Then is worth it. If you are a DAS freak like me, hearing tunes like Now that I have everything and Weep Day in beautiful studio qualty is great after hearing hem crackle for years. Although, a few tracks I wish were on there are: Concrete and Clay, Mrs. Cinderella, We Just go Nuts at Christmas time, Living Doll, Hell Hotel, etc. 3. I want comedy Central 4. There is no number four 5. The Avalon sucks. If anyone can give me a reason why there should be an 18+ show, please e-mail me. Considering it's in a state where 18 year olds ccan only smoke,m and that goes on at concerts anyway, having an 18+ concert makes no sense at all. 6. I'm gonna get some goldfish. ___ _ _ _ ___ _ _ _ _ _ _ | . \ ___ | |_ ___ _ _ _| |_ | | / _> _ _ ___ | |_ <_>| || | | || | | // . \| . \/ ._>| '_> | | | |_ _ | <_/\| '_><_> || . \| || || | | || | |_\_\\___/|___/\___.|_| |_| |___|<_> `____/|_| <___||___/|_||_||_| |_||_| "There could be gangs of...gang members!" -Adam Carolla ------------------------------ Message-ID: <333D443C.3FEC@swbell.net> Date: Sat, 29 Mar 1997 08:33:00 -0800 From: Hezbollah Harry Organization: the Legitimate Businessmen's Club of Sugar Land Subject: TMBG: Another "is TMBG a ska band or what?" thread >"oh no, not another 'is TMBG a ska band or what?' thread!!! No, They aren't. BUT...Mono Puff's Dr. Kildare actually is. Emphasis on the off beat, use of trumpets (maybe synthesized, i can't tell. I'm just a violinist on a marching band list.) I've known people that put that song on their ska mix tapes and fool unsuspecting friends. Mono Puff...truly all things to all people. Josh all people to all things ------------------------------ From: Jordan1c@aol.com Date: Sat, 29 Mar 1997 16:14:23 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <970329161422_1816280699@emout07.mail.aol.com> Subject: TMBG: Then,and more Ok..i got Then: The Earlier Years with the nostalgia pack, which you could ONLY get at Tower Records 4TH AND BROADWAY with an Irving Plaza card they have out at the shows. anyway, i was told i would get the video compilation, which i didnt. the pack included 1 bumber sticker (red,coffee) 1 perncil (not exactly nostalgiac..it has the website adress on it, and next to the eraser it says "undo" teehee) 4 postcards, 2 diferent kinds. on to Then...... well, of course i love it! This is mostly since ive only had the cassettes of TMBG,Lincoln,and Misc. T. and the unreleased stuff is very odd, but i love it. i do NOT notice the remastering. i guess its like those Magic eye things, some people can hear the remastering,and some cant. I noticed it is clearer, but thats with all cd's i have casettes of. i dont really hear any BIG differences, just that i can hear the indivudual instruments used a little better. Though Puppet Head did seem different in some way. i dont understand why people here are complaining about Then cause they "already have almost the whole thing". THEN WHY DID YOU BUY IT? You knew it was gonna have those albums, so quitcherbitchin! you couldve just waited to get a copy of the unreleased songs instead of paying all that moolah. besides, you cant tell me its not fun to listen to on "Random" mode! ok, on to some other things------ please keep down the "non-tmbg" posts here. i have seen some posts that are NON tmbg but dont even say in the subject title. this usually happens when someone is responding to someone else's TMBG related message with a non tmbg message, but fail to wrote that in the subject title. i also see replies to subject title that say MANY things in it..but the reply is like 2 sentences...so change the damn subject title to what your responding to. i dont know when to press the "delete" button anymore. thanks, and...goodbye "i was at the pornography store. i was buying pornography" -Homer ------------------------------ Message-ID: <01BC3C58.4963D800@buster.computer-services.com> From: "Buster T. Bunny" Subject: TMBG: Then for Rabbits... Date: Sat, 29 Mar 1997 15:28:12 -0600 As you well know all rabbits have big ears, so we tend to hear things very well. I just got Then from one of the local music stores, popped it into my pooter and let it fly through the stereo. Most people say they don't notice the remastering, but I certainly can tell the difference. Its not REALLY obvious, and most of the changes are very subtle, but overall it is more clear than the regular CD's. On some tracks its more obvious than others though. To test my theory I ran both CD's at the same time into the pooters spectrum analyzer and compared waveforms. Of course they were different, but overall the Then waveform was cleaner and more concise than the others. As far as being worth the $25 I paid for it, I must say that I am not at all disappointed with my purchase. Have a nice day! Buster T. Bunny Acme Communications http://www.acmeonline.net ftp://acmeonline.net Computer Services Company http://www.computer-services.com ------------------------------ Subject: TMBG: list #3-82 Message-ID: <19970329.160711.9094.9.TMBgirl@juno.com> From: tmbgirl@juno.com (I have no Name) Date: Sat, 29 Mar 1997 18:07:52 EST Woohoo!!! J&J PEZ dispensers!!!! (i already have a collection of about 65 pez machines at the moment) sorry to add to the thread! RANDOM QUESTION OF THE DAY!: What color are J&J's eyes?? (and i don't want to hear any "i think" or "i'm pretty sure" or "blue eyes are the best..." (we all know that)) No one in the world ever gets what they want and that is beautiful, Everybody dies frustrated and sad and that is beautiful, they want what they're not and I wish they would stop.... JODA ------------------------------ Subject: TMBG: this is TMBG related due to the friggin NON-TMBG related posts Message-ID: <19970329.160711.9094.10.TMBgirl@juno.com> From: tmbgirl@juno.com (I have no Name) Date: Sat, 29 Mar 1997 18:07:52 EST STOP!!!! that's all i have to say!!! DON't Send so many friggin non-tmbg related messages. each message on my computer can only be 60K and so all the rest of the friggin thing gets deleted!!! so please STOP!!! i want to read it all!! =) tmbg-stuff: how about... NOT! let's just stop this friggin trend!!! if we want to find other true tmbg-fans why don't we all invest $16 into buying a THEY hat or something. or just wear a TMBG shirt every day! please excuse my bitchiness today but i just spent a friggin week with my family and it tends to get me all edgy No one in the world ever gets what they want and that is beautiful, Everybody dies frustrated and sad and that is beautiful, they want what they're not and I wish they would stop.... JODA (jordan) ------------------------------ Subject: TMBG: THEN... Message-ID: <19970329.160711.9094.11.TMBgirl@juno.com> From: tmbgirl@juno.com (I have no Name) Date: Sat, 29 Mar 1997 18:07:52 EST Sorry for the multiple postings but i've been on spring break and have been replying to each digest as they come along: I went to this tiny little ski-resort town in the middle of nowhere when i saw a music store! i was sooo psyched that was the first place i went when i noticed there was only about 100 CD's in the whole place and then a grip of guitars. so i ask the guy who owns it if he was planning on having hte CD in when he's like "hahahaa are you kidding? people here have no musical taste" so i was all bummed and stuff and figured i'd have to wait til i got back home (denver) to get it. when he's like "hey, i can special order it for you.. it'll be in by tomorrow!" i was soo happy! now as far as liking it or not... i'm slightly disappointed in the whole thing (which doesn't mean i don't like it) i expected more story-telling and no lyrics in the booklet. then, i think it was kinda a let-down when i had heard EVERY single "previously unreleased songs" before (well, all except two) anyways, i think it's 'totally rockin' and disc two is playing right now! =) No one in the world ever gets what they want and that is beautiful, Everybody dies frustrated and sad and that is beautiful, they want what they're not and I wish they would stop.... JODA (jordan) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Mar 1997 15:18:53 -0800 (PST) From: Nicole Carlson Subject: TMBG: Acronyms Message-ID: > DB Dirt Bike John Henry (12) > DB Dinner Bell Apollo 18 (9) There's got to be some way to distinguish between the two. But IMHO neither title is long enough to warrant an acronym. > EOT End Of Tour John Henry (20) How about TEOTT, for The End Of The TOur? > FS For Science Miscellaneous T Yah, but it could also be Factory Showroom. Let's just keep it FOr Science. > IPI I Palindrome I Apollo 18 Usually denoted I Pal I, which is almost as short and much clearer. > NT Number Three They Might Be Giants (3) Usually donoted #3, which is as short and much clearer. >OOF Out Of Jail John Henry You mean OOJ? > SB Santa's Beard Lincoln (12) > SB Stomp Box John Henry (19) These are the same. > SS Space Suit Apollo 18 (38) > SS Spiraling Shape Factory Showroom (9) > SS Snail Shell John Henry (2) ditto. > WMIBS Why Must I Be Sad? John Henry (8) Like WDTSS?, this acronym would be much clearer if you put the question mark at the end-- WMIBS? Overall, tis good, Joel, but methinks you got a tad overzealous. Do we really need acronyms for EVERY SINGLE SONG? I grant you that acronyms are marvelous to avoid having to type, say, "Hey Mr. DJ, I Thought You Said We Had A Deal", but let's not take it too far. "Mr. Me" is not too much longer than "MM", and it's a zillion times clearer. --nicole the wonder nerd will resume her regular posting when she gets back to school and doesn't have to use pine anymore. ------------------------------ Message-Id: <199703300040.SAA10140@cereal.ncfcomm.com> From: "Mike Leffel" Subject: NON TMBG: Bleah. Date: Sat, 29 Mar 1997 18:31:12 -0600 Did anyone hear my name on 'Conan O' Brien"?? Am I getting April Fooled or what? Mike " Nettiquette Rebel #42-33011" Leffel If They could do "Runaway" _better_, I'd just have to accept it. ------------------------------ Message-ID: <333DB3F9.5AB3@mindless.com> Date: Sat, 29 Mar 1997 19:29:45 -0500 From: Got Niven Subject: TMBG: Dial-A-Song Online page works again. Hi, if you tried to go to the Dial-A-Song Online page yesterday or the day before, it may not have worked because GeoCities was moving some data from faulty storage devices. Today, the page is back up, although Geocities sometimes crashes for a few minutes-- if this happens, just count to 60 and try to get to the page again. Anyway, the URL for Dial-A-Song Online is still: http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Towers/7315 ------------------------------ From: Callagha@NORTHRYDE.VODAFONE.vodafone.telememo.au Date: 30 Mar 1997 12:07:44 +1000 Message-ID: <000C8A5F.MAI*/S=Callagha/O=VODAFONE/OU=NORTHRYDE/PRMD=vodafone/ADMD=telememo/C=au@MHS> Subject: Re: TMBG: Re: Then: Cool stuff from Tower >Ummmm... excuse me... my local stores have none of this Nostalgia pack >stuff!!! Is it possible that someone else could buy one for me and send >it to me, and have me pay that person? How much is a nostalgia pack anyways? > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- >Tom Hare - It's not my birthday, so why do you lunge out at me? - TMBG >tomhare@freenet3.scri.fsu.edu particle_man@tmbg.org hare@tmbg.org >--------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Nostalga? If someone is feeling really friendly, and wouldlike to send it to Australia I'd not only pay you back, I'd be your friend for life... seriously?? please? maybe? Andrew Callaghan wombat@hartingdale.com.au callagha@northryde.vodafone.vodafone.telememo.au (is that an address or what???) ------------------------------ From: tracyg@netrax.net (Tag Typesetting Services) Subject: TMBG: TMBG SHOW AT BOHAGER'S (BALTIMORE) ON APRIL 19 Date: Sat, 29 Mar 1997 21:41:23 -0500 Message-ID: <19970330024122.AAA9219@LOCALNAME> Hey everybody! Tickets for TMBG's show at Bohager's Bar N' Grille in Baltimore are now on sale! The show is Sat., April 19. Doors open at 7 and the show starts at 8. Tickets are $20 and can be gotten either at Bohager's, 515 S. Eden St., 410-563-7220 or through Ticketmaster at 410-481-7328. I just got my tix. Hope to see you all at the show! Tracy ------------------------------ From: Yoel97@aol.com Date: Sat, 29 Mar 1997 21:49:20 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <970329214919_1750168034@emout06.mail.aol.com> Subject: Re: TMBG: Acronyms In a message dated 97-03-29 18:35:00 EST, nmcarlson@ucdavis.edu (Nicole Carlson) writes: > > DB Dirt Bike John Henry (12) >> DB Dinner Bell Apollo 18 (9) >There's got to be some way to distinguish between the two. But IMHO >neither title is long enough to warrant an acronym. I know. I was just putting one for each song, regardless if it repeated >> EOT End Of Tour John Henry (20) >How about TEOTT, for The End Of The TOur? Okay =) >> FS For Science Miscellaneous T >Yah, but it could also be Factory Showroom. Let's just keep it FOr >Science. I was strictly doing the exact ACRONYM >> IPI I Palindrome I Apollo 18 > Usually denoted I Pal I, which is almost as short and much clearer. See above >> NT Number Three They Might Be Giants (3) >Usually donoted #3, which is as short and much clearer. See above >>OOF Out Of Jail John Henry >You mean OOJ? Actually, OOPS =) Good job for catching that! >> SB Santa's Beard Lincoln (12) >> SB Stomp Box John Henry (19) >These are the same. See above >> SS Space Suit Apollo 18 (38) >> SS Spiraling Shape Factory Showroom (9) >> SS Snail Shell John Henry (2) >ditto. Ditto =) >> WMIBS Why Must I Be Sad? John Henry (8) >Like WDTSS?, this acronym would be much clearer if you put the question >mark at the end-- WMIBS? Okay, also HCISLAG should also have a ? denoted with it. >Overall, tis good, Joel, but methinks you got a tad overzealous. Do we >really need acronyms for EVERY SINGLE SONG? I grant you that acronyms are >marvelous to avoid having to type, say, "Hey Mr. DJ, I Thought You Said We >Had A Deal", but let's not take it too far. "Mr. Me" is not too much >longer than "MM", and it's a zillion times clearer. again and finally, see above I was just doing so some people don't say, "But you didn't include Mr. Me and Number Three, etc." > --nicole the wonder nerd >will resume her regular posting when she gets back to school and doesn't >have to use pine anymore. Joel "Just A Plain Nerd" Gedalius ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Mar 1997 22:06:31 -0500 (EST) From: Adam Tyner Subject: TMBG: Mailing list hats/mousepads Message-Id: Here's something someone might want to put together... It's sort of like the OMLTs, only a little more interesting. :> http://www.nb.net/~freehat/ TTYL, -Adam /----=========================================----\ Looking for He-Man, "Weird Al", Yoo-Hoo, and MST3K? Then go to http://www.awod.com/gallery/rwav/ctyner/ ctyner@awod.com O- MiSTie #67,326 ------------------------------ From: Callagha@NORTHRYDE.VODAFONE.vodafone.telememo.au Date: 30 Mar 1997 13:14:25 +1000 Message-ID: <000C8A67.MAI*/S=Callagha/O=VODAFONE/OU=NORTHRYDE/PRMD=vodafone/ADMD=telememo/C=au@MHS> Subject: RE: TMBG: ACRNYMS Kelly posted earlier saying that the cryptogram guy had too much free time. Well, if he could read this post instead of working on the cypher he'd either:- a) loose all that free time and/or; b) Go totally insane ec, you're an evil, evil man... and I love you (lol) Andrew Callaghan ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- TMBG R 1 GR8 BND, THY HVE LTS of GR8 SNGS. SM of my FVRTS R SS, PT, TNAC, WDTSS? ANG, DLS, RSWA, ERIWA, MD, NYC, WGAWTS, SITF... TH LST GS on N on. S U CN C, THS CN B CNFSING F NT MPSIBL 2 NDRSTND. TNX 4 YR TM -ec ------------------------------ Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19970329225406.0082a210@mail.ee.net> Date: Sat, 29 Mar 1997 22:54:06 -0500 From: Evan Chakroff Subject: NonTMBG: Cryptographic Cypher To those thinking I have too much free time: You're right! (But soon, I will be filling it with my "year-long" english project, which I will begin work on this week. (I've only had 4 months to do it so far :) Also, If you think I made up the Cryptographic Cypher Code, think again! I don't have THAT much free time. Instead, I merely plagiarize! go to www.infoseek.com (or altavista or lycos, if you're into that kind of thing :) and search for "Cryptographic Cypher" if you do find it, read the rest, very interesting. Then: Then is somewhat disappointing, now, because the 2nd CD is better than the first, except the bonus tracks from one are better than the bonus tracks from 2 (It's all great, though.) Have a commercialized Easter, -ec ------------------------------ From: Callagha@NORTHRYDE.VODAFONE.vodafone.telememo.au Date: 30 Mar 1997 13:54:49 +1000 Message-ID: <000C8A6D.MAI*/S=Callagha/O=VODAFONE/OU=NORTHRYDE/PRMD=vodafone/ADMD=telememo/C=au@MHS> Subject: Re: TMBG: AKA vs. AKA (non TMBG... sowwy) Oh my goodness!!!!! Soneone else out there who not only knows of Jellyfish, but also likes them!! wacky-doo!!! I feel so ostracised over here in Australia, 'cos I say their name and the universal respone is always "who?" :) (just a shame they've split up, though...) >--------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- >Also, the bogus XTC story stated that their lawyer was some guy named >Nigel. Any XTC fan will recognize the joke in this. > >Josh >Now playing in the 3 disc changer of love: >1. Ben Folds Five - Whatever and Ever Amen >2. Jellyfish - Spilt Milk >^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >3. Violent Femmes - Hallowed Ground On a completely differnet not, though, I've been watching a lot of negative things out there about Then, and think I do have something to say about it. As far as TMBG fans go, we are a bit of an extremist group. Now I don't mean that in a negative way. TMBG are most certainly one of the best things to happen to music in the past 15 years. What I do mean is we (meaning the group of loveable nutcases who subscribe to tmbg.list) really are the "dedicated few" who really follow the band (one look at Royce's recent postings are enough to confirm this theory). There have got to be many times the number of people out there who really do like TMBG but either don't have the internet at home or work (Mr Clinton said he was gonna fix that problem soon... anyone actually believe him? ) or are just people who are interested in the music. This is where Then is going to be a godsend for folks. I have all the albumns (incl. MiscT) but I have a lot of friends who love TMBG but simply haven't been able to get a copy of either the pink albumn, M-T or lincoln. So what is the remastering isn't the best quality? so what if there are some songs that people would have preferred (has anyone ever seen a compilation record that has every song that every fan loves on it?). What really matters is the early stuff is out there, and available, and it's gonna bring a lot of new fans into out ever growing and loving community. And after all, we're all here 'cos we love the music, right? Andrew Callaghan (who should go eat his prozac and have a lay down...) ------------------------------ Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19970329231026.007c9a20@mail.ee.net> Date: Sat, 29 Mar 1997 23:10:26 -0500 From: Evan Chakroff Subject: TMBG: Statue, Then Are I'm Def and Which Describes How You're Feeling (WDHYF) the same version on Statue EP as on Then:? (To my knowledge, both are from the demo tape) but are the ones on Then: remastered from the Statue versions (are the Statue versions cleaned up from demo tape versions?) And wouldn't that be a copyright problem or something? (restless <--> elektra) 'cause wouldn't I'm Def and WDHYF be "Elektra" songs after being published on an elekra EP? (If they are the same versions, this would be different than Particle man) Do I know what I'm talking about? -ec ------------------------------ From: Callagha@NORTHRYDE.VODAFONE.vodafone.telememo.au Date: 30 Mar 1997 14:10:46 +1000 Message-ID: <000C8A6F.MAI*/S=Callagha/O=VODAFONE/OU=NORTHRYDE/PRMD=vodafone/ADMD=telememo/C=au@MHS> Subject: TMBG: non-TMBG Colour Guard OK, help out the dumb wombat here... What on earth is a colour guard??? I've been reading these posts for days and I'm none the wiser... Andrew Callaghan ps: I was given an email address to see on the progress of the tmbg.list t-shirts, but it doesn't work for some reason. Can anyone give me some info on them? ta :) ------------------------------ From: Yoel97@aol.com Date: Sat, 29 Mar 1997 23:21:04 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <970329232103_1410990915@emout04.mail.aol.com> Subject: Re: TMBG: Statue, Then In a message dated 97-03-29 23:15:07 EST, chakroff@ee.net (Evan Chakroff) writes: << Are I'm Def and Which Describes How You're Feeling (WDHYF) the same version on Statue EP as on Then:? (To my knowledge, both are from the demo tape) but are the ones on Then: remastered from the Statue versions (are the Statue versions cleaned up from demo tape versions?) And wouldn't that be a copyright problem or something? (restless <--> elektra) 'cause wouldn't I'm Def and WDHYF be "Elektra" songs after being published on an elekra EP? (If they are the same versions, this would be different than Particle man) >> Ah, the description BEFORE the acronym. How nice. Thank you Evan for showing us the way! Joel "High on Something" Gedalius ------------------------------ Message-Id: Date: Sat, 29 Mar 1997 20:31:54 -0700 From: carrots@primenet.com (Aaron Cohen) Subject: Re: TMBG: Statue, Then >Are I'm Def and Which Describes How You're Feeling (WDHYF) the same version >on Statue EP as on Then:? (To my knowledge, both are from the demo tape) >but are the ones on Then: remastered from the Statue versions (are the >Statue versions cleaned up from demo tape versions?) "I'm Def" is a little longer on the Statue single and the demo tape. It says "Can we do that?" and "Why don't you leave a message?" at the end. Speaking of bonus tracks being cut shorter, I like the unexpected cutoff of "I Hope that I Get Old Before I Die" but I don't think "I'm Def" should have been shortened. Does anyone know if any of the other bonus tracks were trimmed down? I think "Mainstream U.S.A" might have been. ------------------------------ From: Callagha@NORTHRYDE.VODAFONE.vodafone.telememo.au Date: 30 Mar 1997 14:24:03 +1000 Message-ID: <000C8A71.MAI*/S=Callagha/O=VODAFONE/OU=NORTHRYDE/PRMD=vodafone/ADMD=telememo/C=au@MHS> Subject: Re: TMBG: Sheet Music >--------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- > >> Does anyone know if TMB Productions is coming out with a sheet music >> collection or something? I would love to play Birdhouse. That would be >> cool. I know we allready have all the chords and stuff, but I want to play >> it on the piano. >> >> Joel >> >you can play it on the piano if you know the melody and the >chords--there's three ways (i can think of that is) to play piano --as >written, which is where you play the note as they appear on the page; >ear which is where you listen to it and then figure out the notes; and by >chord, where you play the chord along with the highest keys of the >melody--most sheet music is piano/guitar and those guitar chords that >appear above the staff can be used on piano also...dont know if this was >helpful in the slightest way, but ummm..yeah. > >shoehorn with teethmikes >(it'd be funnier if my name was mark) >{ :) } Yeah, but can you do the same thing with a Tuba? (just kidding) Andrew Callaghan "Lo, the world shall curse the day when he found the internet" ------------------------------ From: Callagha@NORTHRYDE.VODAFONE.vodafone.telememo.au Date: 30 Mar 1997 14:36:46 +1000 Message-ID: <000C8A74.MAI*/S=Callagha/O=VODAFONE/OU=NORTHRYDE/PRMD=vodafone/ADMD=telememo/C=au@MHS> Subject: Re: TMBG: marching bands, Then (long) > They Might Be Giants are NOT satanists...." They aren't?? Oh no... I must have the wrong band then. I wonder if Kula Shaker are...? Andrew Callaghan ------------------------------ From: Yoel97@aol.com Date: Sun, 30 Mar 1997 00:14:01 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <970330001400_-1938407050@emout17.mail.aol.com> Subject: TMBG: MP3 Where can I get a MP3 maker so that I can make my own MP3 files. If it is a shareware program, can someone please give me the reg. number so I can fully operate it. Also, what other TMBG MP3 locations are there besides ftp.tmbg.com Joel Gedalius PS: I am looking for Purple Toupee and Puppet Head multimedia (wav, mid, etc.) ------------------------------ From: Callagha@NORTHRYDE.VODAFONE.vodafone.telememo.au Date: 30 Mar 1997 15:09:48 +1000 Message-ID: <000C8A7C.MAI*/S=Callagha/O=VODAFONE/OU=NORTHRYDE/PRMD=vodafone/ADMD=telememo/C=au@MHS> Subject: RE: TMBG: Mailing list hats/mousepads ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- >Here's something someone might want to put together... > >It's sort of like the OMLTs, only a little more interesting. :> > >http://www.nb.net/~freehat/ > >TTYL, > >-Adam > >/----=========================================----\ >Looking for He-Man, "Weird Al", Yoo-Hoo, and MST3K? >Then go to http://www.awod.com/gallery/rwav/ctyner/ >ctyner@awod.com O- MiSTie #67,326 I'll be in that one... It'll be a nice friend for the TMBG hat I got from the last tour :) Andrew Callaghan "Wondering if people are getting sick of his postings yet..." ------------------------------ Message-Id: <199703300524.XAA16838@dfw-ix5.ix.netcom.com> From: "Charles Box" Subject: Re: TMBG: MP3 Date: Sat, 29 Mar 1997 21:23:24 -0800 The best site for utilities is the British Bulldogs site http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Alley/9310/utils.html they have links to everything, utilities, players, playlist makers, direct rippers for CDs... and I definitely did not give you this info. ---------- > From: Yoel97@aol.com > To: tmbg-list@tmbg.org > Subject: TMBG: MP3 > Date: Saturday, March 29, 1997 9:14 PM > > Where can I get a MP3 maker so that I can make my own MP3 files. If it is a > shareware program, can someone please give me the reg. number so I can fully > operate it. Also, what other TMBG MP3 locations are there besides > ftp.tmbg.com > > Joel Gedalius > PS: I am looking for Purple Toupee and Puppet Head multimedia (wav, mid, > etc.) > > > ------------------------------ From: Christi587@aol.com Date: Sun, 30 Mar 1997 00:25:54 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <970330002543_-1971952620@emout20.mail.aol.com> Subject: TMBG: OMLTs, etc Please, please, please. People, I know there are more of you out there who want OMLTs. So order already! I expect 40 more orders by next week or you will have one very moody OMLT Goddess to deal with. Buy one for your friends and family. Buy one to line the birdcage (er, house). Buy one to wipe your CD player with. Buy one to blow your nose on. Visit http://omlt.home.ml.org and look at the pretty, pretty colors. Don't you want to be able to wear that on your back? Listen to the sound of my voice. You *will* buy an OMLT. You *will* e-mail Christi587@aol.com and supply the following information: -Number and sizes of shirts wanted -Name and address for shipping -E-mail address used most Come on. I am risking a severe shoe beating to sneak off to this computer and relay this message to you all. You could at least pay me back by ordering a shirt or two. Anyone who has not ordered the second bootleg collection, do so now! I got mine today and was able to watch it after convincing Left it was just another college promotional video. (Boy, he's getting soft lately.) Interviewer: So you think that America is experiencing a trend of de-intellectualization? Linnell: Well, we *could* just say that Americans are stupid, but that would be mean. --Christy ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 30 Mar 1997 00:33:35 -0500 (EST) From: MIKE Subject: TMBG: TMBG : istanbul--janet Message-ID: this may be common knowledge, but i just found out a few days ago...in the brownsville mix of Istanbul, the 'youre not taping this, are you?" and i think the "this is a recording" come from the Janet Jackson Rythym Nation CD...dont hound me if you already know this, because i am in no way a janet jackson fan:) toothhorn with shoes (mike) ------------------------------ From: wglodell@baraboo.com (Wyatt Glodell) Subject: TMBG: Suprise, Suprise Date: Sat, 29 Mar 1997 23:33:07 -0600 Message-ID: <19970330053306259.AAA345@ppp162.baraboo.com> Ok, i've been using MP3's like crazy, and downloaded half the tmbg.com /incoming/misc directory (all the stuff i dont have) and i now have 40 megs of MP3s. Anyway, i found a search engine that searches mp3 sites and the results were about like this (only the first 100 reults): About %60 of the sites had Istambul. About %45 had Particle man About %75 Had both of those about %30 had those and Birdhouse then there was a couple decent ones - one that has half of Factory Showroom and one that actually had stuff from all the albums (about 40 songs from pink - lincoln, a bit of flood), and one had about half of flood. SUPER-SECRET-TRIVIA-QUESTION!!!!! (as if we didnt know) what are the most popular TMBG album, and most popular songs? -Wyatt " i like mp3's " Glodell ------------------------------ End of tmbg-list Digest #3-89 *****************************