Errors-To: owner-tmbg-digest@tmbg.org Reply-To: tmbg-digest@tmbg.org Sender: owner-tmbg-digest@tmbg.org Precedence: bulk From: owner-tmbg-digest@tmbg.org To: tmbg-digest@tmbg.org Subject: tmbg-list Digest #11-17 tmbg-list Digest, Volume 11, Number 17 Saturday, 17 October 1998 Today's Topics: TMBG: Re: tmbg-list Digest #11-16 TMBG: tmbg-list FAQ Re: TMBG:Coming to Tower Records-N.Y. 10/16 Re: TMBG: tmbgchat TMBG: Krauss or Dillett? Re: TMBG: Krauss or Dillett? TMBG: Kumbaya Re: TMBG:Coming to Tower Records-N.Y. 10/16 NON-TMBG: The End Of The Tour (for me) Re: TMBG: Krauss or Dillett? Re: TMBG:Coming to Tower Records-N.Y. 10/16 TMBG: Re: tmbg-list Digest #11-16 TMBG: The Onion TMBG: The Onion Re: TMBG: The Onion TMBG: Much much more TMBG: Something else Re: TMBG:Coming to Tower Records-N.Y. 10/16 Re: TMBG: Something else Re: TMBG: Krauss or Dillett? 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It's not clear whether or not he's been drinking Nyquil. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 03:15:00 -0400 (EDT) From: Majordomo Message-Id: <199810160715.DAA02554@ussenterprise.ufp.org> Subject: TMBG: tmbg-list FAQ *** ADMINISTRIVIA *** This notice is posted twice a month to tmbg-list and tmbg-digest, as well as sent to all new users. Please read it if you have questions about the list. The TMBG mailing list is administered by Leo Bicknell . It provides a forum for discussing They Might Be Giants and Their music. 1) Unsubscribing from the list It is easy to unsubscribe from this mailing list. If you are subscribed to the regular, or "bounce" list, send the command unsubscribe tmbg-list e-mail@address in the body of a message to . To unsubscribe from the tmbg-digest digested version of the list, send the command unsubscribe tmbg-digest e-mail@address in the body of a message to . "e-mail@address" stands for the email address that is subscribed to the list. 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I might mention that instores are a great place to record shows... video or audio :P And remember, at the last instore (no, not the mono puff one... the actual TMBG instore in rochester) they still let Lincoln play a mini-set before them... so go record MS if he shows up :P Actually wait... did he end his tour with Them last night? hmm... take it easy, JOrdaN http://www2.netcom.com/~arnot/joda/bootlegs.html ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ From: tmbgirl@juno.com Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 07:26:17 -0600 Subject: Re: TMBG: tmbgchat Message-ID: <19981016.072717.3550.1.TMBgirl@juno.com> >is tmbgchat down has anyone noticed this or just me??? help me!!! okay i've been in there a grand total of two times... the last time was just recently and when i went in there some skanky ho was using the nick "TMBgirl" i was a little concerned :P take it easy, JOrdaN http://www2.netcom.com/~arnot/joda/bootlegs.html east coast tour: november 10-16... moxy fruvous :) ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ From: mjames@khserver.loyola.edu (Matthew James) Message-Id: <9810161537.AA07785@khserver.loyola.edu> Subject: TMBG: Krauss or Dillett? Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 11:37:59 -0400 (EDT) > >The person in ASM is _definitely frustrated_. I actually don't know > >who Bill Krauss is though ::blush:: Could someone fill me in here? > > yipes! I believe (this is off the top of my head) that Bill Krauss > engineered/produced all of their early albums. He was pretty much the > techie of the group. :) > > At the shows way back when it was "just john and john" he was in charge > of the drum machine so i spose that makes him the rhythm section before > the rhythm section :) > > >So, > >if Bill was frustrated that makes sense > > You always heard stories about all the problems they had back then... not > only in producing the albums but touring etc. i would assume that's what > inspired the "frustration" in Bill and in turn the song. I'm curious, I don't know the history. How long has Pat Dillett been with TMBG? If he's been around since the first albums could he possibly be the drum machine guy? I know he did it on the Then: The Early Years tour, but was he doing that because Bill Krauss was no longer around to do it or was it because he has always done it? Thanks, Matt -- Matt James mjames@khserver.loyola.edu Loyola College in Baltimore, MD ------------------------------ Message-ID: <19981016164208.28908.qmail@hotmail.com> From: "Nathan Mulac DeHoff" Subject: Re: TMBG: Krauss or Dillett? Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 09:42:08 PDT Matthew James wrote: >I'm curious, I don't know the history. How long has Pat Dillett been >with TMBG? If he's been around since the first albums could he >possibly >be the drum machine guy? I know he did it on the Then: The Early >Years >tour, but was he doing that because Bill Krauss was no longer around >to >do it or was it because he has always done it? The first TMBG album that Pat Dillett produced was "Factory Showroom." He might have worked with TMBG before that, though. (I seem to recall him being mentioned as part of the ground crew for "John Henry.") I'm pretty sure he was not working with TMBG back in the Bill Krauss days, though. I would assume that Pat took the place of the absent Bill during the Then tour. -- May you live in interesting times, Nathan DinnerBell@tmbg.org http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Corridor/5447/ ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ From: Phil Jackson Message-Id: <199810161714.NAA17362@angels.heaven.net> Subject: TMBG: Kumbaya Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 13:12:22 -0400 Hey everyone, i don't know if you'll remember this thread or not but we were arguing about the song kumbaya...now they have played it many times as ma fill in the middle of a song..song(in particle man and spy). but then Myself and one other person out there who's name i can't quite remember, we both said that once upon a time at a little old place named the chance they played a full song version of KUMBAYA!! Unfortunately no one believed us. I don't know why they wouldn't because we were both there but anyways... I just today got that very show in the mail from TMBGirl none the less. and It does have a full song on it named KUMBAYA!!!!!! and I guarentee that at least half of you have heard this song too...just by a different name!! although the now played version of this song isn't quite the same (or as good i must add). But now for the suspense..."which song is it???" you say. as i think "Should i tell these people" .....i guess so the song is...........(cut) .....hehehe just tryed to trick you hehe the name of the song is..... .......hmm.....is this annoying yet????? if so ...hehehehehehe ok ok i guess i can let you know that it is.................... REST AWHILE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ~Eric "Action" Jackson~ [Attachment omitted, unknown MIME type or encoding (text/html)] ------------------------------ From: KdsInThHal@aol.com Message-ID: <465a3fb7.362797cf@aol.com> Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 15:00:31 EDT Subject: Re: TMBG:Coming to Tower Records-N.Y. 10/16 >I might mention that instores are a great place to record shows... heck yah.. oh i'm so mad. soul coughing are going to be at the record archive tomorrow (same place i taped the Lincoln/TMBG and Moxy Fruvous instores; so if you got either of those from someone else, i was the camera person. hello.) ...and i *can't* go.... :{ sarah ------------------------------ Message-ID: <19981016195902.29902.qmail@hotmail.com> From: "Josh Buckland" Subject: NON-TMBG: The End Of The Tour (for me) Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 12:58:59 PDT Friends... Not friends... I have (for me and some of you, at least) some sad news. For reasons I care not to explain, I am leaving for a while. Now don't break out the champaign just yet. I swear on the devil's cold black heart that I shall return. I'd even swear on Apollo 18, and that's pretty risky. I have had a little bit of fun with this list, some of it which was only my fun, but we can forgive, no? I opologize to anyone and everyone for any differences we may have shared. But, shit happens. But it does happen quite alot nonetheless. I do have some things to say before I leave. I have decided on Gene Simmons (from KISS) for Halloween. I'll put that Micheal Myers mask to use, somehoe or another... Another thing. If John Flans burgh ever gets named Man O' The Century, I swear to rink my own urine, and send photos to all of the frequent posters. I have one favor to ask of you. In remembrence of me, I want you all, at midnight of Halloween (October 31), to watch the Shining. That is my final request untill I return. To Uncle Squid: Where are you? To All the lurkers out there: What the hell are you people lurking for? Come out, you sets of red eyes glowing in the dark! Jeez, you people scare the bloody hell out of me! To everyone: Stay cool, and keep my memory alive (at least untill November). I'll miss this list, but goodbye. Josh Buckland dilbert_2000@hotmail.com ICQ#: 17262308 contact me! http://profiles.yahoo.com/LeChuck/ Mandrake: Colonel! Colonel, I must know what you think has been going on here! Guano: You wanna know what I think? Mandrake: Yes! Guano: I think you're some kind of deviated prevert. I think General Ripper found out about your preversion, and you were organizing some kind of mutiny of preverts. Now MOVE!! --"Dr. Strangelove OR How I Learned To Stop Worrying And Love The Bomb" ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ From: tmbgirl@juno.com Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 14:19:52 -0600 Subject: Re: TMBG: Krauss or Dillett? Message-ID: <19981016.142635.4766.1.TMBgirl@juno.com> >>I'm curious, I don't know the history. How long has Pat Dillett been >>with TMBG? If he's been around since the first albums could he >>possibly >>be the drum machine guy? I know he did it on the Then: The Early >>Years >>tour, but was he doing that because Bill Krauss was no longer around >>to >>do it or was it because he has always done it? on the bootlegs it's bill... i thot pat came into the picture a few years later (i have no idea tho...) take it easy, JOrdaN http://www2.netcom.com/~arnot/joda/bootlegs.html ________________________________________________________________ Get secure free e-mail that you don't need Web access to use from Juno, the world's second largest online service. Download your free software at http://www.juno.com/getit.b.html. ------------------------------ From: Alterian@aol.com Message-ID: <17eb6362.3627b996@aol.com> Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 17:24:38 EDT Subject: Re: TMBG:Coming to Tower Records-N.Y. 10/16 I was at that one in Rochester, right up front. It was a blast. There were a lot of little kids there, I had to push them out of the way. =P No, I think I scared the little kids away.. -Amber the Alterian ------------------------------ Message-ID: <19981016222406.2786.qmail@hotmail.com> From: "Scott Reed" Subject: TMBG: Re: tmbg-list Digest #11-16 Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 17:24:05 CDT >> "blinded by the light, rolled up like a douche another stranger in the >>> night..." >> >>what is that *supposed* to be, though? (please don't say that's the >>actual lyric...) > > I think it's supposed to be: > >"Blinded by the light, revved up like a deuce, another runner in the >night" here's the real lyric from http://www.lyrics.ch "wrapped up like a duce another runner in the night." in response to the "what does it mean?" question, i think it's an allusion to running guns, i.e. the "deuce" is a gun, it is wrapped up in something, and the "runner" is the person transporting the gun... >oh yeah in Road Movie to Berlin I thought they said "So sneak out >this last suburban and we'll go" i thought the lyric was "seek out this last suburban, and we'll go" which made perfect sense, becuase you have to find the suburban and get inside because they won't leave without you... my misheard lyrics include: 'stare into the sun, for as long as you can" from subliminal...i thought it was a subliminal message... "anna anna nuh nuh" from anna ng... for the longest time i couldn't figure out they were saying "date stamped on my side" in dead... i though it was "date stamped on my south" (bottom)... i've also had a thought about whistling in the dark...is all that stuff written across her scalp..."there's only one thing that I know how to do well/ and I've often been told that you only can do what you know how to do well/ and that's be you,/ be what you're like,/ be like yourself,/ and so I'm having a wonderful time/ but I'd rather be whistling in the dark." if so, that's one big scalp. and in birdhouse in your soul, did the bluebird kill off "countless screaming Argonauts," or "countless screaming, 'Argonauts!'" that's one to ponder Bjorky ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ From: TMBGibs@aol.com Message-ID: <2f38b454.3627c52b@aol.com> Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 18:14:03 EDT Subject: TMBG: The Onion Did anyone read the TMBG interview from The Onion? Me! "You gave me a pet name" ------------------------------ From: TMBGibs@aol.com Message-ID: <97f04c69.3627d24b@aol.com> Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 19:10:03 EDT Subject: TMBG: The Onion Here ya'll go. Heres the interview. If it wont let you in, e-mail me. http://avclub.theonion.com/avclub3403/avfeature3403.html Me! "No longer must I sweep for you For I am not your broom " ------------------------------ From: tmbgirl@o.com Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 17:25:39 -0600 Subject: Re: TMBG: The Onion Message-ID: <19981016.173853.3806.3.TMBgirl@juno.com> >Did anyone read the TMBG interview from The Onion? yeah, and i still have a couple more of them... if anyone wants them they're available on a first come first serve basis tho... take it easy, JOrdaN http://www2.netcom.com/~arnot/joda/bootlegs.html ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ From: TMBGibs@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 19:15:05 EDT Subject: TMBG: Much much more I need to know where i can find some MONO PUFF MIDIS, or RED DWARF MIDIS. Please tell me if you find any, or where to find any for that matter. THANK!!!!!!!! -ME! "So let me get this straight. You want to fly on a magic carpet to see the King of the Potato People and plead with him for your freedom, and you're telling me you're completely sane?" -Mr Flibble ------------------------------ From: TMBGibs@aol.com Message-ID: <775880f5.3627e8eb@aol.com> Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 20:46:35 EDT Subject: TMBG: Something else Now that i have everything... Ok, I need help. I have heard a terrible rummor that TMBG is comming to Rochester NY. I, personaly, dont belive it, cause they hardly EVER come here. This is terrible, cause i dunno if its true or not. If it is will someone PLEASE tell me. I need their tour dates through december, if anyone knows them. Thanks a mil. Me! "Its cold outside theres no kinda atmosphere, im all alone, more or less, lemme fly far away from here, fun fun fun, in the sun sun sun..." -Red Dwarf ------------------------------ From: KdsInThHal@aol.com Message-ID: <731e855d.36281125@aol.com> Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 23:38:13 EDT Subject: Re: TMBG:Coming to Tower Records-N.Y. 10/16 >I was at that one in Rochester, right up front. It was a blast. There were >a >lot of little kids there, I had to push them out of the way. =P >No, I think I scared the little kids away.. really? i was the one with the video camera. :] were you right by the doorway where the band entered? sarah ------------------------------ From: KdsInThHal@aol.com Message-ID: <72ce515a.36281afc@aol.com> Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 00:20:12 EDT Subject: Re: TMBG: Something else >Now that i have everything... >Ok, I need help. I have heard a terrible rummor that TMBG is comming to >Rochester NY. I, personaly, dont belive it, cause they hardly EVER come >here. >This is terrible, cause i dunno if its true or not. If it is will someone >PLEASE tell me. I need their tour dates through december, if anyone knows >them. >Thanks a mil. (this applies to anyone wanting to know the dates) keep an eye on tmbg.com or pollstar.com; or this very list. we're generally the first or second to know these things... {or tmbgibs, call wber (381-4353 ... hehe, i almost typed 387-6962)... believe me, you'll know when i know, and if so, i'll see you there! they *are* due to come back to keep up with the pattern (12/96, 11/97...)} sarah ------------------------------ Message-ID: <000c01bdf98d$5f8fb380$81c608d1@idiotnot.visi.net> From: "S. Bergeron" Subject: Re: TMBG: Krauss or Dillett? Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 01:16:59 -0400 :I'm curious, I don't know the history. How long has Pat Dillett been :with TMBG? If he's been around since the first albums could he possibly :be the drum machine guy? I know he did it on the Then: The Early Years :tour, but was he doing that because Bill Krauss was no longer around to :do it or was it because he has always done it? Dillett appeared on the scene during the recording of "Flood." He did the drum machine on the Then tour because Krauss wasn't there. Krauss and Flansburgh had a rather infamous falling-out in 1989. He was the first in line....J. D. Feinburg, Bo Orloff, Brian Doherty, etc. etc. Jack Bergeron, idiotnot@visi.net bluedawg@tmbg.org "Someday, somebody else besides me will call me by my stage name."--Doctor Worm http://www.tmbg.org/~bluedawg/ ------------------------------ End of tmbg-list Digest #11-17 ******************************