Errors-To: owner-tmbg-digest@tmbg.org Reply-To: tmbg-digest@tmbg.org Sender: owner-tmbg-digest@tmbg.org Precedence: bulk From: owner-tmbg-digest@tmbg.org To: tmbg-digest@tmbg.org Subject: tmbg-list Digest #13-2 tmbg-list Digest, Volume 13, Number 2 Wednesday, 2 December 1998 Today's Topics: TMBG: tmbg-list FAQ TMBG: New Year's Show Re: TMBG: New Year's Show Re: TMBG: New Year's Show TMBG:OT:Rochester people Re: TMBG: TMBG and Coffee Shops TMBG: tour dates TMBG: Fwd: Re: Serial Killers of my choice TMBG: Re: Fwd: Serial Killers of my choice TMBG: tour questions TMBG: My first "Man" sighting Re: TMBG: tour questions Re: TMBG: tour questions Re: TMBG: tour questions Re: TMBG: tour questions Re: TMBG: tour questions Administrivia: If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing send mail to tmbg-digest-request@tmbg.org for instructions on how to be automatically removed. --------------------------------------------------------------------- The views expressed herein are those of the individual authors. --------------------------------------------------------------------- tmbg-list is digested with Digest 3.5b (John Relph ). ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 1 Dec 1998 03:15:01 -0500 (EST) From: Majordomo Message-Id: <199812010815.DAA11203@ussenterprise.ufp.org> Subject: TMBG: tmbg-list FAQ *** ADMINISTRIVIA *** This notice is posted twice a month to tmbg-list and tmbg-digest, as well as sent to all new users. 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Harf, Mitch http://ccwf.cc.utexas.edu/~mitcharf/index.html "I am prepared to meet anyone, but whether anyone is prepared for the great ordeal of meeting me is another matter." - Mark Twain ------------------------------ Message-ID: <36640FAE.BF380219@cnr.edu> Date: Tue, 01 Dec 1998 10:47:58 -0500 From: "Sarah Starr" Subject: Re: TMBG: New Year's Show Mitchell Harding wrote: > Does anyone know what time the TMBG New Year's Eve show begins? > And who (if anyone) is opening for them? the all ages show starts at 7 pm, and the 21 and over show starts at 11 pm. my best friend gets to go, while I will be recovering from having my wisdom teeth extracted :( Life just isn't cool sometimes. sarah faye ------------------------------ Message-Id: <2.2.32.19981201164102.00e0777c@pop-server.austin.rr.com> Date: Tue, 01 Dec 1998 10:41:02 -0600 From: Mitchell Harding Subject: Re: TMBG: New Year's Show At 10:47 AM 12/1/98 -0500, you wrote: >Mitchell Harding wrote: > >> Does anyone know what time the TMBG New Year's Eve show begins? >> And who (if anyone) is opening for them? > >the all ages show starts at 7 pm, and the 21 and over show starts at 11 >pm. my >best friend gets to go, while I will be recovering from having my wisdom >teeth >extracted :( >Life just isn't cool sometimes. Do you know if there will be an opening band? Harf, Mitch http://ccwf.cc.utexas.edu/~mitcharf/index.html "I am prepared to meet anyone, but whether anyone is prepared for the great ordeal of meeting me is another matter." - Mark Twain ------------------------------ From: Alterian@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Tue, 1 Dec 1998 15:38:59 EST Subject: TMBG:OT:Rochester people I know some of you don't listen to BER, but its been off air for a week now...anyone know why? Someone told me that its because someone told them that they had to clean up their act. Do you know how horrid it would be if they shut down forever?? They're the station that brings THEM to Rochester for the concerts! -Amber the Transcendent Mistress of the Known Cosmos, Empress for Eternity Vent these voices from the dark... ------------------------------ Message-ID: <19981201214006.7674.qmail@hotmail.com> From: "Mike McGuire" Subject: Re: TMBG: TMBG and Coffee Shops Date: Tue, 01 Dec 1998 13:40:06 PST As far as the Talking Heads go, I really like Naked and Speaking in Tongues, but I certainly enjoy the others as well... As far as David Byrne goes, all I am familiar with is his newest one, Feelings, and I love it. Guess I should get the others, huh? *Mike* >Heyo. I work in a Subway shop in my little backwards town (not quite as cool >as a coffeeshop, but hey...) and I also play the Talking Heads/David Byrne >almost every day. Of course I get the usual snide comments: "What is THIS?" >"Is that Talking Heads? Weren't they around in the 80s?" "Do they make you >listen to this?" "Is this the Spanish Radio?" etc. I usually tell them who it >is or something, or I'll tell them that I don't let Top40 decide what I should >listen to. That usually shuts them up, heheh. Anyways, I just wanted to >know, which one's your favorite album? personally, I'd give three thumbs up >to "Uh-Oh," if I had a third thumb, of course. > >Reply if you care >-CAsey, who is in the process of converting TMBG fans to Byrne fans... ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 01 Dec 1998 16:43:54 -0500 From: rachel Message-ID: <3664631A.75F7@tmbg.org> Organization: They Might Be Giants, Unofficially http://www.tmbg.org Subject: TMBG: tour dates anyone know anything about the 1/29/99 Westerville, OH show at Otterbein College? is it free? directions from i270? thanks. planning ahead as usual. ;) meow, rachel ------------------------------ Message-ID: <19981201221935.1300.qmail@hotmail.com> From: "Josh Buckland" Subject: TMBG: Fwd: Re: Serial Killers of my choice Date: Tue, 01 Dec 1998 14:19:33 PST Well. Hi there. Josh here. There is something about killers and deaths >that attract people. We don't know what it is, but lurid, morbid >curiosity just >might be the answer. I've never been fond of chain letters. But here's >mine. > > You know what to do with these. Here we go... > > The Moors Murderers > ------------------------------------------- > > The most shocking crimes in modern British history were committed by a >pair of perverted lovebirds named Ian Brady and Myra Hindly, A.K.A. the >"Moors Murderers." Not since "Saucy Jack (the Ripper)" prowled the >backstreets of Whitechapel had a series of killings provoked such >outrage and horror in England. > > A child of the tough Glasglow slums, Brady (whose young, unwed mother >had little time for him) was in trouble with the law y the age of >thirteen. His sadistic tendancies also showed themselves early on. One >boyhood aquaintance recalled the time that little Ian dug a deep pit in >a graveyard, tossed in a live cat, then sealed up the opening with a >stone. Bady wanted to see how long it would take the animal to die of >starvation. In his early twenties, Brady developed an obsessive >fascination with Hitler and the Marquis de Sade. Before long, he was >collecting Nazi paraphernalia and indulging in fascistic fantasies and >sadistic daydreams. Only one thing was needed to make those daydreams >come true... a slavish, masochistic follower. > > He found her in Myra Hindley, an atractive twenty-four-year-old > working girl who, until she fell under Brady's sway, had showed no > signs of deviancy. Soon after they started dating, however, her puppy >dog devotion turned into complete emotional submission. In obediance to >Brady's needs, the quiet, seemingly well-adjusted young woman >transformed herself into a Nazi fetishist's wet dream, a jack-booted >dominatrix/sex-slave who loved to wield, and sumbit to, the whip and to >strike pornographic poses for the delectation of her fuhrer. Brady's pet >name for her was "Myra Hess" (a homage to Hitler's henchman Rudolf >Hess), and he fondly compared her to Irma Grese, the notorios famale >gaurd at Belsen concentration camp who took keen delight in torturing >inmates. > > But acting on Nazi-inspired sex fantasies was not enough for Brady. > He had other, and far worse, things in mind. For several years from the >early to mid-1960's, the depraved couple abducted and killed at least >four childen, ranging in age from ten to sixteen. Generally, it was >Hindley who lured the victim into her car. Exactly how much she >participated in the actual killing remains a matter of debate, though >Brady clearly took the more active role. Their final murder was, in many >was, the most apalling. Afer snatching a ten-year-old girl named Lesley >Ann Downey, they brought her back to Hindley's house, bound and stripped >her, compelled her to pose for pornographic pictures, and then, before >killing her, tape-recorded her > heart-wrenching scream, cries, and pleas for mercy. Like their other >victims, Downey's body was buried on the moors. The "Moors Murderers" >were finaly caught when Brady attempted to recruit second follower, his >teenage brother-in-law, David Smith. In the fall of 1965, Brady picked >up a young homosexual, brought him home, and bludgeoned him to death in >front of Smith. In effect, this was an act of ritual slaughter, a blood >initation to bring smith into Brady's murderous fold. But the plan >backfired. Smith was so horrified that he notified the police. > > At their 1966 trial, Brady and Hindley had to sit behind bulletproof >shields to protect them from an outraged public. When the tape recording >of Lesley Ann Downey's final moments was played in court, not only the >jury and spectaters but hardened police officers as well wept openly. > > The "Moors Murderers" were sentenced to life in prison. > >-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Now, there are always rules about chain letters. The rule for this one >is: If you don't send this to at LEAST 2 people, I'll kill you. There's >a good rule, don't you think? ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ From: tmbgirl@juno.com Date: Tue, 1 Dec 1998 17:18:06 -0700 Subject: TMBG: Re: Fwd: Serial Killers of my choice Message-ID: <19981201.171814.17566.1.TMBgirl@juno.com> Josh you just don't get it do you? take it easy, JOrdaN http://www2.netcom.com/~arnot/joda/bootlegs.html ________________________________________________________________ Get secure free e-mail that you don't need Web access to use from Juno, the world's second largest online service. Download your free software at http://www.juno.com/getit.b.html. ------------------------------ From: wagner@mindspring.com Message-ID: <001b01be1d8b$458d4b60$f42756d1@computer> Subject: TMBG: tour questions Date: Tue, 1 Dec 1998 19:32:39 -0500 hell to all i was just wondering...did They play any of the following songs on their latest tour? purple toupee they'll need a crane lucky ball and chain i palindrome i the statue got me high everything right is wrong again put your hand inside hte puppet head hey mr dj...(actually, any other bsides from Then: The Earlier Years (except for "famous polka")) okay, any help would be appreciated. anyone w/ recordings of shows containing these songs *from their latest tour* (especially "crane" or "puppet head"), please contact me. david. [Attachment omitted, unknown MIME type or encoding (text/html)] ------------------------------ Message-ID: <19981202003449.25221.qmail@hotmail.com> From: "Josh Buckland" Subject: TMBG: My first "Man" sighting Date: Tue, 01 Dec 1998 16:34:48 PST I had my first "The Man" sighting today at the local library. There's this thing going on where you can pay off your fines by bringing cans. Well, the library made some fliers, and on these fliers was the man with his outstreached arm. Someone tainted his picture by pasting cut outs of cans around him as if he were juggling. Josh Buckland dilbert_2000@hotmail.com ICQ#: 17262308 contact me! http://profiles.yahoo.com/LeChuck/ "I'd give my life to be dead." -Francesco Dellamorte, "Cemetery Man" ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ From: EmarZero@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Tue, 1 Dec 1998 19:55:07 EST Subject: Re: TMBG: tour questions In a message dated 98-12-01 19:35:15 EST, wagner@mindspring.com writes: > purple toupee > they'll need a crane > lucky ball and chain > i palindrome i > the statue got me high > everything right is wrong again > put your hand inside hte puppet head > hey mr dj.. None of these were played at the Atlanta show. Pity. I *really* wanted to hear "Statue..." Oh, and does *anyone* have a live copy of "Sensurround?" For that matter, is the MMPR soundtrack version different from the SEXXY version? (aside from one being the ONLY good song on said album?) ------------------------------ Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19981201201121.007d78d0@mail.clemson.edu> Date: Tue, 01 Dec 1998 20:11:21 -0500 From: Adam Tyner Subject: Re: TMBG: tour questions At 07:55 PM 12/1/98 EST, EmarZero@aol.com wrote: > >None of these were played at the Atlanta show. Pity. I *really* wanted to >hear "Statue..." Oh, and does *anyone* have a live copy of "Sensurround?" SenSurround isn't one they play all that often. The only live version I have is from one of the March '96 Mercury Lounge performances, and it wasn't all that spectacular. >For that matter, is the MMPR soundtrack version different from the SEXXY >version? (aside from one being the ONLY good song on said album?) Yup. The tempo on the SEXXY single is upped a bit, and the bridge is much different. -Adam -- /=---------------- http://www.he-man.org/ctyner/ ----------------=\ http://www.crystal-night.com/~ctyner/tuscadero.html http://www.awod.com/gallery/rwav/ctyner/ He-Man, Tuscadero, "Weird Al", Yoo-hoo, Killer Tomatoes, & more! ------------------------------ From: tmbgirl@juno.com Date: Tue, 1 Dec 1998 20:49:49 -0700 Subject: Re: TMBG: tour questions Message-ID: <19981201.205015.15302.2.TMBgirl@juno.com> >None of these were played at the Atlanta show. Pity. I *really* >wanted to >hear "Statue..." Oh, and does *anyone* have a live copy of >"Sensurround?" there is one bootleg with sensurround on it... i don't really want to go through my collection and check the set-lists for each show but i welcome you or anyone else to do so... http://www2.netcom.com/~arnot/joda/bootlegs/giants.html take it easy, JOrdaN http://www2.netcom.com/~arnot/joda/bootlegs.html ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ From: HallOfEyes@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Tue, 1 Dec 1998 23:18:29 EST Subject: Re: TMBG: tour questions In a message dated 12/1/98 7:35:15 PM Eastern Standard Time, wagner@mindspring.com writes: << i palindrome i >> They played this at the show I went to in October. Jordan ------------------------------ Message-ID: Date: Wed, 2 Dec 1998 02:01:24 -0500 (EST) From: Lawrence P Solomon Subject: Re: TMBG: tour questions Excerpts from internet.music.tmbg: 1-Dec-98 TMBG: tour questions by wagner@mindspring.com > purple toupee > they'll need a crane > lucky ball and chain nope. :( > i palindrome i I think they played this one a few times. > the statue got me high > everything right is wrong again > put your hand inside hte puppet head not on this tour. maybe they'll come back for special shows or something... > hey mr dj...(actually, any other bsides from Then: The Earlier Years = > (except for "famous polka")) as far as I know, Hey Mr. DJ has never been performed live... it's like... more of a novelty song than They Got Lost... Lawrence Solomon http://www.contrib.andrew.cmu.edu/~lps/ lps@andrew.cmu.edu "You keep handing out horseshoes * This space inadvertently Horseshoes have gotta be tossed." -Moxy Fruvous * left with stuff in it. ------------------------------ End of tmbg-list Digest #13-2 *****************************