Errors-To: owner-tmbg-digest@tmbg.org Reply-To: tmbg-digest@tmbg.org Sender: owner-tmbg-digest@tmbg.org Precedence: bulk From: owner-tmbg-digest@tmbg.org To: tmbg-digest@tmbg.org Subject: tmbg-list Digest #13-9 tmbg-list Digest, Volume 13, Number 9 Wednesday, 9 December 1998 Today's Topics: TMBG: Show on the net Re: TMBG: Show on the net Re: TMBG: Show on the net TMBG: TMBG HAS IT MADE Re: TMBG: Dr. Worm Single????? -Reply Re: Non-TMBG: Buckland / Helfgott / Them TMBG: someone make a neat o websight Re: TMBG: someone make a neat o websight Re: TMBG: Blast from the Past - OMLT Re: TMBG: bullsh*t TMBG: Careless Santa? Re: TMBG: TMBG HAS IT MADE Re: TMBG: bullsh*t Re: TMBG: bullsh*t Re: TMBG: bullsh*t Re: TMBG: bullsh*t Re: TMBG: Re: makin' a xmas tape Re: TMBG: Re: makin' a xmas tape Re: TMBG: Careless Santa? Re: TMBG: Re: makin' a xmas tape Re: TMBG: Careless Santa? Re: Re[2]: Non-TMBG: My Guetbook. Re: Re[2]: Non-TMBG: My Guetbook. NON TMBG:Go Easy on this Josh dude Non TMBG: Josh's Website Re: TMBG: someone make a neat o websight Re: TMBG: bullsh*t Re: NON TMBG: Josh and such Fwd: TMBG: Careless Santa? Re: NON TMBG:Go Easy on this Josh dude Re: NON TMBG:Go Easy on this Josh dude Re: Non TMBG: Josh's Website TMBG: Rolling Stones mag ad... NonTMBG: Dr. Drew Re: NON TMBG: Josh and such TMBG: Re: rolling stone TMBG: One Week? TMBG: Mrs. Train Re: TMBG: Mrs. Train Re: TMBG: bullsh*t Re: TMBG: Mrs. Train Re: NON TMBG:Go Easy on this Josh dude TMBG: Mike Leffel Re: TMBG: bullsh*t Re: TMBG: Re: makin' a xmas tape Re: TMBG: someone make a neat o websight Re: TMBG: Re: makin' a xmas tape Re: TMBG: bullsh*t Re: Non TMBG: Josh's Website Re: TMBG: Rolling Stones mag ad... TMBG: yet another pointless song interp Re: NON TMBG:Go Easy on this Josh dude Administrivia: If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing send mail to tmbg-digest-request@tmbg.org for instructions on how to be automatically removed. --------------------------------------------------------------------- The views expressed herein are those of the individual authors. --------------------------------------------------------------------- tmbg-list is digested with Digest 3.5b (John Relph ). ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Gweeg@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Tue, 8 Dec 1998 02:33:01 EST Subject: TMBG: Show on the net THE SHOW ON THE NET SUCKS ASS!!! BIG TIME IT A GREAT CONCERT EXCEPT FOR THE CONSTANT STATIC CUTTING OFF THE MUSIC DONT WASTE YOUR TIME LISTENING TO IT ------------------------------ From: Kreadoubt@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Tue, 8 Dec 1998 02:37:55 EST Subject: Re: TMBG: Show on the net In a message dated 12/7/98 11:34:42 PM Pacific Standard Time, Gweeg@aol.com writes: << THE SHOW ON THE NET SUCKS ASS!!! BIG TIME IT A GREAT CONCERT EXCEPT FOR THE CONSTANT STATIC CUTTING OFF THE MUSIC DONT WASTE YOUR TIME LISTENING TO IT >> Really? Huh, mine was clear.... Maybe there was a spaceship in your area... :) ".....and some of them say DON'T play me live" JL ------------------------------ Message-ID: <366CD81E.D43BC126@calpoly.edu> Date: Mon, 07 Dec 1998 23:41:18 -0800 From: Phil Mettler Subject: Re: TMBG: Show on the net What's the URL for the show? Kreadoubt@aol.com wrote: > > In a message dated 12/7/98 11:34:42 PM Pacific Standard Time, Gweeg@aol.com > writes: > > << THE SHOW ON THE NET SUCKS ASS!!! BIG TIME IT A GREAT CONCERT EXCEPT > FOR THE CONSTANT STATIC CUTTING OFF THE MUSIC DONT WASTE YOUR TIME > LISTENING TO IT >> > > Really? Huh, mine was clear.... > > Maybe there was a spaceship in your area... :) > > ".....and some of them say DON'T play me live" JL ------------------------------ From: Gweeg@aol.com Message-ID: <55c61bd4.366cd9c3@aol.com> Date: Tue, 8 Dec 1998 02:48:19 EST Subject: TMBG: TMBG HAS IT MADE if you think about it They might be giants has it made. They are not mainstream. They are not underground. No one will ever get sick of them being played on the radio, of course because they are hardly ever played. They have a huge avid following. Plus it is my opinion that they are the biggest they've been since 92. They are slowly gaining more popularity. If they did get "popular" people would only attribute it to the succuess of Bare naked ladies. I think they should stay how they are. Popular but modest, and not affraid to try different things. If Dr Worm did launch them into the mainstream i doubt they'd make a kids CD. So there ------------------------------ From: rhilton@bitc.org.uk Message-Id: Date: Tue, 8 Dec 1998 9:14:33 +0000 Subject: Re: TMBG: Dr. Worm Single????? -Reply Well I don't know about a 'European' Dr Worm single but in the UK (which is meant to be part of Europe though most of us secretly like having a channel of water between us and them!) Dr Worm is due for release sometime in January on Cooking Vinyl, no doubt to tie in with the two concerts they are playing in London. When and if I get a concrete release date I'll post to the list. Richard - who has his tickets for both London dates. >>> "superman75@juno.com" 8/December/1998 08:29am >>> hi. > Does anyone know about a european Dr. Worm single? I was just >bumming around the 'net and decided to drop into gemm.com and >they list an european import Dr. Worm single. Anyone have any info >on this? Does anyone know if restless plans a u.s. Dr. Worm single? well, STD came out way back in august and it's now december. so the dr. worm single should be out about the same time as superfueled freaksicle. as for the european version, i thought i remember hearing about a CD promo overseas with worm and the STD istanbul on it. maybe that's this import. i'd say ignore it, unless you were really curious and if it were cheap. imports rarely are. i'd save your pennies for the new album next year. and by the by, has the baby linnell made its triumphant entrance into the world yet? your underking of pop trivia, adam schaaf * ------------------------------------------ Philly Tour Dates Dec. 12 - The Bouncing Souls Dec. 19 - The Jon Spencer Blues Explosion Dec. 27 - Dream Theater * ------------------------------------------ ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 Dec 1998 04:16:26 -0600 (CST) From: bill tatalovich Subject: Re: Non-TMBG: Buckland / Helfgott / Them Message-ID: On Mon, 7 Dec 1998, leonard helfgott wrote: > [snip] The common enemy. When the reverend Bill Tatolovich (sorry, rev, > but I can't spell your name right) and I are at each other's throats over > communism or almost any other topic that the rev and I seem to argue > about, we can always rely on Josh Buckland to do something so incredibly > stupid that we have got to unite on the common ground of insulting him. Wow....couldn't have said that one better myself. I actually didn't realize it, but Josh has provided a sort of unifying property in this list...merely, as the Cap'n said, because we all take a break from quibbling just to marvel at some incredibly strange and/or dumb posts from Prof. Buckland. Helfgott...I sincerely hope there are no hard feelings about our arguments in the past...things did get ugly sometimes. Oh...and the repeating movie of Kennedy's head exploding on Josh's site? Made me physically ill. Seriously. And depressed the hell out of me as well. Josh...take that as a "constructive criticism", or as a compliment, if you'd like. Another thing...there was a survey conducted on our campus to see what band(s) to bring in for the spring concert that we always have. You see, in the past, we've had good bands sometimes, like Morphine or (back in 93, I believe) TMBG, but lately we've had crap, with bands like Stir, the Samples, and so on (although getting the Scofflaws once, and getting De La Soul a different time...now that ruled). So anyway, the survey, apparently showing what bands the campus really likes, resulted in three bands being requested. G. Love and Special Sauce, the Violent Femmes, and TMBG. Weird. I should have more faith in my campus... Okay, I've wasted enough of your time. The Rev |~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~|~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| | Reverend Bill Tatalovich | Home page: | | | http://students.cec.wustl.edu/~wt3/ | | wt3@cec.wustl.edu |~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ | personnel@kwur.wustl.edu | ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------ From: Gweeg@aol.com Message-ID: <75dcba1b.366cff2c@aol.com> Date: Tue, 8 Dec 1998 05:27:56 EST Subject: TMBG: someone make a neat o websight Someone should make a web page that is half they might be giants and half Hard Core Animal Porn ------------------------------ From: "Leon X. Deggs" Subject: Re: TMBG: someone make a neat o websight Message-Id: <913114114.27548.23@excite.com> Date: Tue, 08 Dec 1998 02:48:34 PST And what have TMBG got to do with whack-off animal porn? Or did I miss a subtlety, again?? >Gweeg@aol.com wrote: > Someone should make a web page that is half they might be giants and half Hard > Core Animal Porn Life is weird and full of weirdness. So why do we need weirdos to add to it? :-) L. _____________ Leon X. Deggs _______________________________________________________ Get your free, private e-mail at http://mail.excite.com/ ------------------------------ From: tmbgirl@juno.com Date: Tue, 8 Dec 1998 06:39:14 -0700 Subject: Re: TMBG: Blast from the Past - OMLT Message-ID: <19981208.064223.4958.1.TMBgirl@juno.com> last we knew Rob Plass was taking over the assignment... rob have you gotten the money yet? ah well, not like i ever botered sending mine in... take it easy, JOrdaN http://www2.netcom.com/~arnot/joda/bootlegs.html 12/11: Soul Coughing, Harvey Danger, Cherry Poppin Daddies, and Love & Rockets ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ From: tmbgirl@juno.com Date: Tue, 8 Dec 1998 06:42:20 -0700 Subject: Re: TMBG: bullsh*t Message-ID: <19981208.064223.4958.2.TMBgirl@juno.com> anyway they mentioned in the article >that, >(this is all paraphrased) TMBG are crying , because BNL has learned to >capitalize on the geek rock and refernces of the 80's, and that they >are >better when they are funny, they also mentioned that they are "quirky" >and >that one who "lives by the quirk dies by it"............. "Somewhere, They Might Be Giants are having a good cry. Barenaked Ladies turned the Eighties college-geek sound into double platinum with "One Week," becoming the new kings of modern rock. "One Week" topped the Billboard singles charts for guess how long, hiding a sad breakup behind asabsurd rapping about sting, kurosawa, leann rimes and chickity-china the chinese chicken. Like the hit, stunt keeps it real for the geek peeps, with nerdy wit and flimsy funk too good-natured to hate on principle. The toronto quintet do all right by their serious side, but stunt is catchiest when it's funiest - whoever lives by the quirk dies by the quirk. " then they go into a bit on DMB... but that's enough for me. take it easy, JOrdaN http://www2.netcom.com/~arnot/joda/bootlegs.html ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ From: "Stephen Shores" Subject: TMBG: Careless Santa? Date: Tue, 8 Dec 1998 10:54:57 -0500 Message-Id: <19981208110945.f6bffaa98ddc11d2af630000b4839961.in@mail.orthotrac.com> > i started an xmas tape today but got bored fast and gave it to my little > sister. > the track list was kinda like.. > * mono puff - careless santa What album (or single) is this song on? I haven't heard it yet. Stephen ------------------------------ From: KdsInThHal@aol.com Message-ID: <3bfeeacf.366d5286@aol.com> Date: Tue, 8 Dec 1998 11:23:34 EST Subject: Re: TMBG: TMBG HAS IT MADE In a message dated 12/8/98 2:50:25 AM, Gweeg@aol.com writes: > if you think about it They might be giants has it made. They are not >mainstream. They are not underground. No one will ever get sick of them >being played on the radio, of course because they are hardly ever played. >They have a huge avid following. Plus it is my opinion that they are the >biggest they've been since 92. They are slowly gaining more popularity. > If >they did get "popular" people would only attribute it to the succuess of >Bare >naked ladies. I think they should stay how they are. Popular but modest, >and not affraid to try different things. If Dr Worm did launch them into >the >mainstream i doubt they'd make a kids CD. So there 'so there'? who are you arguing against? is this a reply to my post of what was in rolling stone? i posted what they wrote, not i.. that's why i titled the post 'bullsh*t"... i don't believe tmbg are "crying" at all. just wanted to be clear about that.. sarah ------------------------------ From: Matt James Message-Id: <199812081704.MAA07197@justice.loyola.edu> Subject: Re: TMBG: bullsh*t Date: Tue, 8 Dec 1998 12:04:09 -0500 (EST) anyway they mentioned in the article >that, >(this is all paraphrased) TMBG are crying , because BNL has learned to >capitalize on the geek rock and refernces of the 80's, and that they >are >better when they are funny, they also mentioned that they are "quirky" >and >that one who "lives by the quirk dies by it"............. "Somewhere, They Might Be Giants are having a good cry. Barenaked Ladies turned the Eighties college-geek sound into double platinum with "One Week," becoming the new kings of modern rock. "One Week" topped the Billboard singles charts for guess how long, hiding a sad breakup behind asabsurd rapping about sting, kurosawa, leann rimes and chickity-china the chinese chicken. Like the hit, stunt keeps it real for the geek peeps, with nerdy wit and flimsy funk too good-natured to hate on principle. The toronto quintet do all right by their serious side, but stunt is catchiest when it's funiest - whoever lives by the quirk dies by the quirk. " ----- End of forwarded message from tmbgirl@juno.com ----- So basically, BNL is on a very precarious perch. They suggest that BNL's serious songs are OK at best, but the geek-like,nerdy,quirky style of their hit stunt is really what keeps it real for them and makes them the stars they are. Yet, the article goes on to say "whoever lives by the quirk dies by the quirk". If BNL becomes too quirky or seems to be contrived or gets any bit stupid (which can very easily happen) they are gonna go downhill fast. BNL just got a lucky break. I liked a few of their songs and thought they were a bit witty and funny at times, but a good portion of their stuff I was never overly impressed with. If the general public starts to think the same way..who knows what'll happen to BNL? -Matt -- Matt James mjames@justice.loyola.edu Loyola College in Baltimore, MD ------------------------------ Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19981208121853.007e1ca0@mail.clemson.edu> Date: Tue, 08 Dec 1998 12:18:53 -0500 From: Adam Tyner Subject: Re: TMBG: bullsh*t At 12:04 PM 12/8/98 -0500, Matt James wrote: > >So basically, BNL is on a very precarious perch. They suggest that >BNL's serious songs are OK at best, but the geek-like,nerdy,quirky >style of their hit stunt is really what keeps it real for them >and makes them the stars they are. Yet, the article goes on What I don't understand is that most of BNL's "quirk" is hardly anywhere on Stunt. It's their most quirk-less album to date. >to say "whoever lives by the quirk dies by the quirk". If BNL becomes >too quirky or seems to be contrived or gets any bit stupid (which can >very easily happen) they are gonna go downhill fast. BNL just I thought One Week was pretty stupid, but I'm apparently one of, what, seven people in the country that dislike it? I was actually flamed on a Barenaked Ladies bbs for posting that I didn't like One Week, or a good portion of Stunt, for that matter. Oh well. :-) -Adam -- /=---------------- http://www.he-man.org/ctyner/ ----------------=\ http://www.crystal-night.com/~ctyner/tuscadero.html http://www.awod.com/gallery/rwav/ctyner/ He-Man, Tuscadero, "Weird Al", Yoo-hoo, Killer Tomatoes, & more! ------------------------------ From: KdsInThHal@aol.com Message-ID: <4df83ed5.366d6071@aol.com> Date: Tue, 8 Dec 1998 12:22:57 EST Subject: Re: TMBG: bullsh*t In a message dated 12/8/98 12:20:27 PM, ctyner@CLEMSON.EDU writes: >What I don't understand is that most of BNL's "quirk" is hardly anywhere >on >Stunt. It's their most quirk-less album to date. exactly.. >>to say "whoever lives by the quirk dies by the quirk". If BNL becomes >>too quirky or seems to be contrived or gets any bit stupid (which can >>very easily happen) they are gonna go downhill fast. BNL just > >I thought One Week was pretty stupid, but I'm apparently one of, what, >seven people in the country that dislike it? I was actually flamed on >a >Barenaked Ladies bbs for posting that I didn't like One Week, or a good >portion of Stunt, for that matter. Oh well. :-) yup, guess i'm in those 7. ;) i'll say, my love of bnl decreased sharply with stun and everythign accompanying stunt. almost makes you love TMBG more. i also seem to be one of the few people who see stunt as a blatant "look at us, we wanna be popular!" album... sarah ------------------------------ Message-ID: <19981208183401.7086.qmail@hotmail.com> From: "Todd Wetherbee" Subject: Re: TMBG: bullsh*t Date: Tue, 08 Dec 1998 10:34:01 PST I don't really have anything to add to this except my agreement. Has BNL sold their soul? Did they leave it behind? Count me as number 3 of the seven. >>I thought One Week was pretty stupid, but I'm apparently one of, what, >>seven people in the country that dislike it? I was actually flamed on >>a >>Barenaked Ladies bbs for posting that I didn't like One Week, or a good >>portion of Stunt, for that matter. Oh well. :-) > >yup, guess i'm in those 7. ;) i'll say, my love of bnl decreased sharply with >stun and everythign accompanying stunt. almost makes you love TMBG more. i >also seem to be one of the few people who see stunt as a blatant "look at us, >we wanna be popular!" album... > >sarah > > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 Dec 1998 16:15:16 -0500 Subject: Re: TMBG: Re: makin' a xmas tape Message-ID: <19981208.145850.-261723.0.gray42@juno.com> From: gray42@juno.com (Claire V Gray) Hey, you can't forget I Saw My Baby Wearin' Santa's Beard Mysterio Gal (Hotel Detective) "It's like being the world's tallest midget." --Flansburgh MST3K#88182 gray42@juno.com, send attachments to mr_realgal@yahoo.com http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Coffeehouse/4871 The Official Project Omicrom website: www.geocities.com/SoHo/Square/9007 ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Message-Id: Date: Tue, 8 Dec 1998 14:21:43 -0600 From: Jason Arnold Subject: Re: TMBG: Re: makin' a xmas tape For a TMBG xmas tape I would prolly put Christmas Cards, O' Tannenbaum, We Just Go Nuts At Xmas, Kiss Me Son of God (for that religious aspect), and She's An Angel on it At 3:15 PM -0600 12/7/98, Claire V Gray wrote: >Hey, you can't forget I Saw My Baby Wearin' Santa's Beard > >Mysterio Gal (Hotel Detective) >"It's like being the world's tallest midget." >--Flansburgh >MST3K#88182 >gray42@juno.com, send attachments to mr_realgal@yahoo.com >http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Coffeehouse/4871 The Official Project >Omicrom website: www.geocities.com/SoHo/Square/9007 > >___________________________________________________________________ >You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. >Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html >or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 Dec 1998 15:21:46 -0500 Subject: Re: TMBG: Careless Santa? Message-ID: <19981208.152148.12174.0.captainmarvel2@juno.com> From: captainmarvel2@juno.com (Derek A Klein) > * mono puff - careless santa >What album (or single) is this song on? I haven't heard it yet. Mono Puff's first album, Unsupervised. Derek "What is everyone staring at?" ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Message-ID: <366D8E6B.802CC6B7@rosevc.rose-hulman.edu> Date: Tue, 08 Dec 1998 15:39:07 -0500 From: Chad Maloney Subject: Re: TMBG: Re: makin' a xmas tape Jason Arnold wrote: > > For a TMBG xmas tape I would prolly put Christmas Cards, O' Tannenbaum, We > Just Go Nuts At Xmas, Kiss Me Son of God (for that religious aspect), and > She's An Angel on it If you are looking for more stuff for that tape, you may consider Mono Puff to be close enough to TMBG (I mean, hey, it has Flansy!). Mono Puff has a song called Careless Santa that might fit really well! Anyone have any other ideas? - Chad ------------------------------ From: ErgoTM@aol.com Message-ID: <29009bf9.366d8b3a@aol.com> Date: Tue, 8 Dec 1998 15:25:30 EST Subject: Re: TMBG: Careless Santa? The song is off of unsupervised. And One Week definitely sucks, so I guess I'm 5 of 7 Jeff "sings the nightingale song alive" Craig ------------------------------ Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19981208154246.00910a70@EMail.Psu.Edu> Date: Tue, 08 Dec 1998 15:42:46 -0500 From: Jason Fickley Subject: Re: Re[2]: Non-TMBG: My Guetbook. As other people have mentioned, the thing to keep in mind is that this suicde note was only the most blatent offense. When Josh first joined the list he posted various obvious or just plain stupid remarks about TMBG and other things. Being a newbie, he was told to read the FAQ, avoid chain letters and pointless filler, etc. When he totally ignored this advice and continued the stupidity he got the bad side of some of us "vets" and tries making us all feel sorry by pulling the prank. Basically, my point is that it didn't start or end with the suicide note, which is why the general opinion of him is what it is. Well, that's enough for now, you can read my archived posts around the time of the note to hear my entire argument :) --Jason-- At 04:38 PM 12/7/98 EST, Misty wrote: >>Heh, try searching the archives for "suicide note". >> >>--Jason-- > >I just searched the archives and read his "suicide note." I just joined >this list in November, so I really had no idea why you guys hated him >so much, other than the fact he made that incredibly wussy "I have no >friends on this list" post to the list yesterday. Now that I've read >his "note," let me say that that is completely fucked up. The guy had >no right to use the members of this list as guinea pigs for his stupid >"reasearch project," if that's even what he was doing. He made light of >the whole idea of suicides (in fact, he compounded this in future posts >of his), and that is really fucked up. His website is fucked up too. >Endless runs of the part in the Zapruder film where Kennedy's head >explodes? That is really fucked up. I reviewed some of his other posts >too, and the vast majority of them have nothing to do with TMBG, just >with whatever is floating in his mind at the time. When they do have >something to do with TMBG, they more often than not are bashing the >band, and then he attempts to cover it up by using some bullshit >excuse. (My favorite one was when he said "When I said 'quite a lot of >their songs suck' I meant to say'only a couple of their songs suck.") > >>From now on I will regard his posts to the mailing list as little more >than crys for help. > >Misty > > ------------------------------ From: OHLERT@accuwx.com Date: Tue, 08 Dec 1998 21:02:44 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Re: Re[2]: Non-TMBG: My Guetbook. Message-id: <01J53XM8X0GY939I2F@accuwx.com> Organization: AccuWeather, Inc I have to admit that I found Senor Buckland's suicide note disturbing but also funny. The unmittagated (damn not haveing a spell checker on this emailer) gaul to post that "psychology experiment". But also the inept and misguided way it was done. It was like a bad attempt to tug at people's emotions. I think Josh is insecure and is doing things to bring this negative attention on himself. I don't know where I going with this, maybe I just seeing Mr. Buckland going down self-destructive roads I've seen too many people go down, maybe I should just stop now... Peter ohlert@accuwx.com p.s. Hey Jason, its to good to see someone else from the State College area on the list.... >As other people have mentioned, the thing to keep in mind is that this >suicde note was only the most blatent offense. When Josh first joined the >list he posted various obvious or just plain stupid remarks about TMBG and >other things. Being a newbie, he was told to read the FAQ, avoid chain >letters and pointless filler, etc. When he totally ignored this advice and >continued the stupidity he got the bad side of some of us "vets" and tries >making us all feel sorry by pulling the prank. Basically, my point is that >it didn't start or end with the suicide note, which is why the general >opinion of him is what it is. Well, that's enough for now, you can read my >archived posts around the time of the note to hear my entire argument :) > >--Jason-- ------------------------------ Message-ID: <19981208212242.24652.qmail@hotmail.com> From: "John Landis" Subject: NON TMBG:Go Easy on this Josh dude Date: Tue, 08 Dec 1998 13:22:42 PST Okay, I'm fairly new to the list, so I probably don't have the right to say this, but here goes. This hostility towards that josh dude seems to me to be totally uncalled for. One of the great things about this list is that it is a forum for almost completely free and uncensored expression. I had hoped that TMBG fans would respect this. I went back and researched that suicide note thing, and I agree that this was in poor taste. But for god's sake, we can all delete messages, and many of us can choose not to receive E-mail from this guy. I ask you not to get in line with the likes of Joseph McCarthy, The Comics Code authority, Adolf hitler, and many other deplorable people, in asking someone to leave simply because you don't agree with them. Let the man talk, you don't have to listen. Also, be polite there is no reason to get insulting. That only leads to hostility, and I for one do not want an even more hostile Josh. -John ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Message-ID: <001901be22f2$01886aa0$5a228a81@refund.rcn.nmt.edu> From: "Refund" Subject: Non TMBG: Josh's Website Date: Tue, 8 Dec 1998 14:30:40 -0700 WARNING!!! NO TMBG CONTENT WHATSOEVER!!! READ WITH EXTREME CAUTION!!! READING OF THIS MESSAGE BY PREGNANT WOMEN MAY CAUSE BIRTH DEFECTS!!! I just visited Josh's little website and found it to be nothing more than another attempt at crappy humor and undeserved attention. My nearest guess, speaking from the standpoint of a student taking Abnormal Psychology, is that Josh is (agreeing with another listee) very insecure, using things like his suicide note and his website for shock value, in an attempt to get some attention. Sad, though it may seem, it has worked for him. Look at this. We're all talking about him still. Building the ego. He's a legend in his own mind. Only thing worth going to Josh's website for is the little graphic of Neko the cat. I used to have that little application... It was fun. Poor thing, though, is so close to Kennedy, he's prolly got brain all over him by now. By the way, Josh. That's fucked up. Really fucked up. Anyway, I say we leave the guy alone...completely. You don't like what he's doing? Don't talk about it. Ironic that I email the list to say don't email the list? Yes. Of course. But how the hell else would I tell you guys? :0) May the Jell-O gods smile on you all. Signed, Nick Wolf, TMBG Ambassador to the state of New Mexico. (Who also thinks Josh should call up LoveLine so Dr. Dru and Adam can diagnose all his problems for us..but would never actually wish that fate on the doctor and his cohort.) The effect? I'll tell you what the effect is! It's pissing me off! Ghostbusters, the Movie. P.S. Visit www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Amphitheatre/5550/ The first Julie Plug tribute page in HISTORY!!! :0) ------------------------------ From: CPatubo@mindscape.com Message-ID: <882566D4.006AC4F0.00@nvtomta.mindscape.com> Date: Tue, 8 Dec 1998 11:26:39 -0800 Subject: Re: TMBG: someone make a neat o websight Sheesh, is this Buckland in disguise or somethin'? -courtney "as soon as you're born you start dying, so you might as well have a good time" -from Cake's "sheep go to heaven" "Leon X. Deggs" on 12/08/98 02:48:34 AM Please respond to "Leon X. Deggs" To: Gweeg@aol.com, tmbg-digest@tmbg.org cc: (bcc: CPatubo/Mindscape) Subject: Re: TMBG: someone make a neat o websight And what have TMBG got to do with whack-off animal porn? Or did I miss a subtlety, again?? >Gweeg@aol.com wrote: > Someone should make a web page that is half they might be giants and half Hard > Core Animal Porn Life is weird and full of weirdness. So why do we need weirdos to add to it? :-) L. _____________ Leon X. Deggs _______________________________________________________ Get your free, private e-mail at http://mail.excite.com/ ------------------------------ From: Alterian@aol.com Message-ID: <5ff03f81.366d9d4f@aol.com> Date: Tue, 8 Dec 1998 16:42:39 EST Subject: Re: TMBG: bullsh*t ohohohohoh!! ::raises and waves hand frantically:: can I be in the group of 7?! Please?! I don't feel like starting my own group of 7 that hates the song...too much effort. -Amber the Transcendent Mistress of the Known Cosmos, Empress for Eternity ------------------------------ Message-ID: <002101be22f6$72b953c0$5a228a81@refund.rcn.nmt.edu> From: "Refund" Subject: Re: NON TMBG: Josh and such Date: Tue, 8 Dec 1998 15:02:29 -0700 I would like to reiterate my point that, while I personally do not agree with some of the things Josh has done here, it isn't my place to ask him to leave. Not once have I ever done so. Sure, some of the things he's posted have been in poor taste, but he has every right, as a fan of TMBG, to be here. I was merely suggesting that if anyone else has a problem with him, just ignore him. Granted, things would probably be better if I'd just kept my f***ing mouth shut...but it's too late for that now. Sorry for any confusion. Signed, Nick Wolf, TMBG Ambassador to the state of New Mexico. "The effect? I'll tell you what the effect is! It's pissing me off!" Ghostbusters, the Movie. P.S. Visit www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Amphitheatre/5550/ The first Julie Plug tribute page in HISTORY!!! :0) ------------------------------ From: Tmbg4life@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Tue, 8 Dec 1998 16:59:25 EST Subject: Fwd: TMBG: Careless Santa? um it is off unsupervised [Attachment omitted, unknown MIME type or encoding (message/rfc822)] On Tue, 8 Dec 1998, John Landis wrote: > This hostility towards that josh dude seems to me to be totally > uncalled for. i agree. there are many things that are called for, but hostility isn't up there. that having been said, i think that much of what's been posted here regarding mr. buckland and his actions falls short of hostility. > I ask you not to get in line with the likes of Joseph McCarthy, The > Comics Code authority, Adolf hitler, and many other deplorable people, > in asking someone to leave simply because you don't agree with them. Let > the man talk, you don't have to listen. i for one am not about to try and censor josh. but that doesn't mean i don't wish he'd just shut up of his own volition. by the way, what did the comics code authority do? i'm not familiar with 'em. --jim kuemmerle, who is not josh's enemy... j.kuemmerle@m.cc.utah.edu http://www.geocities.com/soho/gallery/4668/zivio/ From owner-tmbg-list@tmbg.org Tue Dec 8 18:06:20 1998 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by ussenterprise.ufp.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id SAA26684 for tmbg-list-outgoing; Tue, 8 Dec 1998 18:06:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from camel14.mindspring.com (camel14.mindspring.com [207.69.200.64]) by ussenterprise.ufp.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id SAA26675 for ; Tue, 8 Dec 1998 18:06:16 -0500 (EST) From: wagner@mindspring.com Received: from computer (user-37kbbhd.dialup.mindspring.com [207.69.174.45]) by camel14.mindspring.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id SAA17169; Tue, 8 Dec 1998 18:06:02 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <00c001be22ff$11ae6800$2dae45cf@computer> To: "John Landis" , Subject: Re: NON TMBG:Go Easy on this Josh dude Date: Tue, 8 Dec 1998 18:04:09 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-tmbg-list@tmbg.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: wagner@mindspring.com >This hostility towards that josh dude seems to >me to be totally uncalled for. One of the great things about this list >is that it is a forum for almost completely free and uncensored >expression. I had hoped that TMBG fans would respect this. I went back >and researched that suicide note thing, and I agree that this was in >poor taste. But for god's sake, we can all delete messages, and many of >us can choose not to receive E-mail from this guy. ditto. a short while ago i learned a valuable lesson when i complained about how there was so much "crap" on the mailing list. the reaction i got reaction basically told me that i didn't have to read it, that noone is pointing a gun at my head, that everyone is free to contribute whatever they want to this list. i'd like to reiterate that idea -- if you don't want to read something on this list, don't read it. there's no point in getting mad over something like this. josh's note was really, really low, and i for one am against that he did what he did, but it was an experiment -- he's free to conduct experiments. someone said that he had no right to do this -- why? he can conduct this if he wants. as far as i know, there is no law against what josh did (maybe theres something about lying or something like that), so he's got all the right he wants. why wouldn't he have the right? because it made some people mad that he did this? he can say whatever he wants to say on this list, its his list too, but you people that are getting all mad about it don't have to. i read on the digest that a lot of people disregarded his suicide note. why can't you do the same? if you don't want to read something, don't read it. i also think it's ironic that the same people that are getting pissed off about josh buckland's antics were the same people that were telling me that i didn't have to read all of that "crap" that i was receiving and that everyone has their free say on this list. david. (wagner@mindspring.com) From owner-tmbg-list@tmbg.org Tue Dec 8 18:11:31 1998 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by ussenterprise.ufp.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id SAA27020 for tmbg-list-outgoing; Tue, 8 Dec 1998 18:11:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from extern1.mindscape.com (extern1.mindscape.com [205.156.204.35]) by ussenterprise.ufp.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id SAA27011 for ; Tue, 8 Dec 1998 18:11:28 -0500 (EST) From: CPatubo@mindscape.com Received: from nvtomta.mindscape.com (nvtomta.mindscape.com [205.156.204.40]) by extern1.mindscape.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id PAA24003 for ; Tue, 8 Dec 1998 15:14:29 -0800 (PST) Received: by nvtomta.mindscape.com(Lotus SMTP MTA Internal build v4.6.2 (651.2 6-10-1998)) id 882566D4.007F61F4 ; Tue, 8 Dec 1998 15:11:21 -0800 X-Lotus-FromDomain: MINDSCAPE To: tmbg-list@tmbg.org Message-ID: <882566D4.007F6036.00@nvtomta.mindscape.com> Date: Tue, 8 Dec 1998 15:11:45 -0800 Subject: Re: Non TMBG: Josh's Website Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-tmbg-list@tmbg.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: CPatubo@mindscape.com I had a similar experience on another list -- a subscriber/member has distributed news of her death, faked being her brother and totally deceived us all. It was a blantent excuse for attention, and we all learned from it. We can now look back at the incident and laugh. Sure we all were flaming mad at first, but we got over it, silently excluded her, and went on with our lives. I will quote from many from this list and other lists, "Learn to use your delete key". I've shrugged off Josh's posts since day 2, and it's spared me much turmoil. So I guess I'm goin' against the movement to ignore the issue and not talk about it. But this is the last I'll mention of it, I promise. :) -courtney (who was greatly inspired by Dr. Drew's quotes in this week's USA Weekend, thank you) From owner-tmbg-list@tmbg.org Tue Dec 8 18:13:18 1998 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by ussenterprise.ufp.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id SAA27121 for tmbg-list-outgoing; Tue, 8 Dec 1998 18:13:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from send106.yahoomail.com (send106.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.43]) by ussenterprise.ufp.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id SAA27111 for ; Tue, 8 Dec 1998 18:13:15 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <19981208225340.2569.rocketmail@send106.yahoomail.com> Received: from [160.10.98.44] by send106.yahoomail.com; Wed, 09 Dec 1998 06:53:40 SGT Date: Wed, 9 Dec 1998 06:53:40 +0800 (SGT) From: Ethuilcalen Subject: TMBG: Rolling Stones mag ad... To: tmbg-list@tmbg.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-tmbg-list@tmbg.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: Ethuilcalen Okie, being the Giant-crazed person I am, I went out the other day and bought the most recent Rolling Stones mag. The one with Will Smith on the cover. I leafed through the entire thing twice, and couldn't find the ad...am I looking in the wrong one? Julie :) == The Quote of the Day Brought to you by the Cerulean Blue Wierdo: Hige sceal pe heardra, heorte pe cenre, mod sceal pe mare pe ure maegen lytlad. "Will shall be the sterner, heart the bolder, spirit the greater as our heart lessens." _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From owner-tmbg-list@tmbg.org Tue Dec 8 18:20:11 1998 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by ussenterprise.ufp.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id SAA27802 for tmbg-list-outgoing; Tue, 8 Dec 1998 18:20:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from gos.oz.cc.utah.edu (jek1@gos.oz.cc.utah.edu [155.99.2.3]) by ussenterprise.ufp.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id SAA27790 for ; Tue, 8 Dec 1998 18:20:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (jek1@localhost) by gos.oz.cc.utah.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id QAA11964 for ; Tue, 8 Dec 1998 16:19:41 -0700 (MST) Date: Tue, 8 Dec 1998 16:19:35 -0700 (MST) From: Jim Kuemmerle X-Sender: jek1@gos To: The TMBG Mailing List Subject: NonTMBG: Dr. Drew In-Reply-To: <882566D4.007F6036.00@nvtomta.mindscape.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-tmbg-list@tmbg.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: Jim Kuemmerle On Tue, 8 Dec 1998 CPatubo@mindscape.com wrote: > So I guess I'm goin' against the movement to ignore the issue and not talk > about it. But this is the last I'll mention of it, I promise. :) yo tambien. :) > -courtney > (who was greatly inspired by Dr. Drew's quotes in this week's USA Weekend, > thank you) ooh! ooh! ooh! what did the good Doctor have to say? --jim kuemmerle, who thinks dr. drew is quite the man... j.kuemmerle@m.cc.utah.edu http://www.geocities.com/soho/gallery/4668/ From owner-tmbg-list@tmbg.org Tue Dec 8 18:41:04 1998 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by ussenterprise.ufp.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id SAA29288 for tmbg-list-outgoing; Tue, 8 Dec 1998 18:41:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from gw.wmich.edu (gw.wmich.edu [141.218.1.100]) by ussenterprise.ufp.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id SAA29276 for ; Tue, 8 Dec 1998 18:41:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from eeyore.cc.wmich.edu (PMDF_BATCH@eeyore.cc.wmich.edu [141.218.20.103]) by gw.wmich.edu (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id SAA15844 for ; Tue, 8 Dec 1998 18:40:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from sarah ("port 1092"@pm137-06.dialip.mich.net) by wmich.edu (PMDF V5.1-12 #D3143) with SMTP id <01J53SOD5GH491WB7X@wmich.edu> for tmbg-list@tmbg.org; Tue, 8 Dec 1998 18:40:54 EST Date: Tue, 08 Dec 1998 18:40:25 -0500 From: Sarah Subject: Re: NON TMBG: Josh and such To: tmbg-list@tmbg.org Message-id: <366DB8E9.1A35@wmich.edu> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (Win95; I) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT References: <002101be22f6$72b953c0$5a228a81@refund.rcn.nmt.edu> Sender: owner-tmbg-list@tmbg.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: Sarah I must say that I agree. If you don't want to read what josh posts, don't. It's that simple. All we're doing is glorifying him by making it such a big deal. Besides, does anyone here really want to stoop to his level in making such a public display of hatred? Why not be civil and spare all of us by simply avoiding the issue, which is only an issue because it has been drawn out so much. ~Sarah *I saw mommy kissing Santa...* -- *While making Snow Angels, I looked up and saw Angels making Cloud People* >>>Visit my homepage!<<< http://www.angelfire.com/me/momerath >>>Don't Forget to Sign my Guestbook!<<< From owner-tmbg-list@tmbg.org Tue Dec 8 18:59:26 1998 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by ussenterprise.ufp.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id SAA00759 for tmbg-list-outgoing; Tue, 8 Dec 1998 18:59:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from imo22.mx.aol.com (imo22.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.66]) by ussenterprise.ufp.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id SAA00748 for ; Tue, 8 Dec 1998 18:59:24 -0500 (EST) From: FID889@aol.com Received: from FID889@aol.com by imo22.mx.aol.com (IMOv18.1) id ELSBa17654 for ; Tue, 8 Dec 1998 18:48:58 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <45ecf53e.366dbaea@aol.com> Date: Tue, 8 Dec 1998 18:48:58 EST To: tmbg-digest@tmbg.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: TMBG: Re: rolling stone Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 214 Sender: owner-tmbg-list@tmbg.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: FID889@aol.com hey there all, i am kinda out of the music magazine genera, but i am interested in reading this article which says something about tmbg being all birchy or whatever, so if someone could possibly tell me the name of the article and if it is found in this months issue it would be most appreciated ;-) by the way, random note brought on by someones reference to mr show, i saw the guy w/ the nifty glasses (his name has slipped my mind) in N.Y. at a play, footloose at that, i was kinda amused. ~megan, a good little boy. From owner-tmbg-list@tmbg.org Tue Dec 8 19:07:16 1998 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by ussenterprise.ufp.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id TAA01256 for tmbg-list-outgoing; Tue, 8 Dec 1998 19:07:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from imo23.mx.aol.com (imo23.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.67]) by ussenterprise.ufp.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id TAA01246 for ; Tue, 8 Dec 1998 19:07:14 -0500 (EST) From: EmarZero@aol.com Received: from EmarZero@aol.com by imo23.mx.aol.com (IMOv18.1) id VJDCa00348 for ; Tue, 8 Dec 1998 18:48:07 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 8 Dec 1998 18:48:07 EST To: tmbg-list@tmbg.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: TMBG: One Week? Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 16-bit for Windows sub 86 Sender: owner-tmbg-list@tmbg.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: EmarZero@aol.com I call the number seven spot in the I Hate One Week Club!!! From owner-tmbg-list@tmbg.org Tue Dec 8 19:27:29 1998 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by ussenterprise.ufp.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id TAA02740 for tmbg-list-outgoing; Tue, 8 Dec 1998 19:27:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from VM.MARIST.EDU (vm.marist.edu [148.100.1.2]) by ussenterprise.ufp.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id TAA02731 for ; Tue, 8 Dec 1998 19:27:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from VM.MARIST.EDU by VM.MARIST.EDU (IBM VM SMTP V2R3) with BSMTP id 3929; Tue, 08 Dec 98 19:28:18 EST Received: from MARISTB.MARIST.EDU (NJE origin MUSICB@MARIST) by VM.MARIST.EDU (LMail V1.2b/1.8b) with BSMTP id 5236; Tue, 8 Dec 1998 19:28:19 -0500 Message-Id: <08DEC98.21022818.0090.MUSIC@MARISTB.MARIST.EDU> Date: Tue, 08 Dec 1998 19:27:56 EST From: Misty To: Subject: TMBG: Mrs. Train X-Mailer: MUSIC/SP V5.1.0 Sender: owner-tmbg-list@tmbg.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: Misty I was listening to an MP3 of Mrs. Train earlier, and I just thought I'd throw this question out there: Do you think Mrs. Train should have been included on John Henry, and not just as a b-side? I think it should have and that it maybe should have replaced Window in the rotation. "Back to Skull"'s other great b-side, the alternate Hotel Detective, also, IMO, should have been placed on John Henry in place of Self Called Nowhere. I don't like Self Called Nowhere all that much. Anyone else feel this way? Misty From owner-tmbg-list@tmbg.org Tue Dec 8 19:38:51 1998 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by ussenterprise.ufp.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id TAA03367 for tmbg-list-outgoing; Tue, 8 Dec 1998 19:38:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from dilbert.mix-net.net (root@dilbert.mix-net.net [207.51.81.3]) by ussenterprise.ufp.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id TAA03357 for ; Tue, 8 Dec 1998 19:38:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from ns1.mix-net.net.dns.commdesign.com (max131.mix-net.net [207.51.81.228]) by dilbert.mix-net.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id TAA18904; Tue, 8 Dec 1998 19:38:30 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <003e01be230c$1d2200e0$e45133cf@ns1.mix-net.net.dns.commdesign.com> From: "Feeny (Chris Campbell)" To: "Misty" Cc: "TMBMail" Subject: Re: TMBG: Mrs. Train Date: Tue, 8 Dec 1998 19:37:33 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-tmbg-list@tmbg.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: "Feeny (Chris Campbell)" I think Mrs.Train is a true B-sider, it leads into Snail Dust in this great way! -Feeny, aka Chris Campbell --ICQ# 22373843 --AIM: Chriscam84 ---"Somebody put their fingers in the presidents ears, it wasn't too much later they came out with Johnson's Wax" ----Purple Toupee, They Might Be Giants -----Original Message----- From: Misty To: tmbg-list@tmbg.org Date: Tuesday, December 08, 1998 7:29 PM Subject: TMBG: Mrs. Train >I was listening to an MP3 of Mrs. Train earlier, and I just thought I'd >throw this question out there: Do you think Mrs. Train should have been >included on John Henry, and not just as a b-side? I think it should have >and that it maybe should have replaced Window in the rotation. "Back to >Skull"'s other great b-side, the alternate Hotel Detective, also, IMO, >should have been placed on John Henry in place of Self Called Nowhere. >I don't like Self Called Nowhere all that much. Anyone else feel this >way? > >Misty > From owner-tmbg-list@tmbg.org Tue Dec 8 19:40:25 1998 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by ussenterprise.ufp.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id TAA03549 for tmbg-list-outgoing; Tue, 8 Dec 1998 19:40:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from x18.boston.juno.com (x18.boston.juno.com [205.231.101.29]) by ussenterprise.ufp.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id TAA03538 for ; Tue, 8 Dec 1998 19:40:18 -0500 (EST) From: tmbgirl@juno.com Received: (from tmbgirl@juno.com) by x18.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id DVY34WLL; Tue, 08 Dec 1998 19:39:54 EST To: tmbg-list@tmbg.org Date: Tue, 8 Dec 1998 17:21:56 -0700 Subject: Re: TMBG: bullsh*t Message-ID: <19981208.173714.15110.0.TMBgirl@juno.com> References: <19981208183401.7086.qmail@hotmail.com> X-Mailer: Juno 1.49 X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 0-4,6-9 Sender: owner-tmbg-list@tmbg.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: tmbgirl@juno.com >>yup, guess i'm in those 7. ;) i'll say, my love of bnl decreased >sharply with >>stun and everythign accompanying stunt. almost makes you love TMBG >more just makes me wonder if all of us would still like TMBG if they hit it big again. take it easy, JOrdaN http://www2.netcom.com/~arnot/joda/bootlegs.html ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] From owner-tmbg-list@tmbg.org Tue Dec 8 19:48:00 1998 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by ussenterprise.ufp.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id TAA04162 for tmbg-list-outgoing; Tue, 8 Dec 1998 19:48:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from x18.boston.juno.com (x18.boston.juno.com [205.231.101.29]) by ussenterprise.ufp.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id TAA04151 for ; Tue, 8 Dec 1998 19:47:57 -0500 (EST) From: tmbgirl@juno.com Received: (from tmbgirl@juno.com) by x18.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id DVY4JRDB; Tue, 08 Dec 1998 19:47:27 EST To: K4ZK@MARISTB.MARIST.EDU Cc: tmbg-list@tmbg.org Date: Tue, 8 Dec 1998 17:44:39 -0700 Subject: Re: TMBG: Mrs. Train Message-ID: <19981208.174443.15110.4.TMBgirl@juno.com> References: <08DEC98.21022818.0090.MUSIC@maristb.marist.edu> X-Mailer: Juno 1.49 X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 0-8,12-15,17 Sender: owner-tmbg-list@tmbg.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: tmbgirl@juno.com I think it should >have >and that it maybe should have replaced Window in the rotation. "Back >to >Skull"'s other great b-side, the alternate Hotel Detective, also, IMO, >should have been placed on John Henry in place of Self Called Nowhere. >I don't like Self Called Nowhere all that much. Anyone else feel this >way? nope, I don't agree with you. I think the songs on JH, almost more than any other album, progress with a nice, even sort of flow to them. personally, i think throwing "mrs. train" or "hotel detective" in would throw off the balance and well... that's my $.03 for the minute. take it easy, JOrdaN http://www2.netcom.com/~arnot/joda/bootlegs.html 12/11: Harvey Danger, Soul Coughing, Cherry Poppin' Daddies, and Love & Rockets :) ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] From owner-tmbg-list@tmbg.org Tue Dec 8 20:06:45 1998 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by ussenterprise.ufp.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id UAA05284 for tmbg-list-outgoing; Tue, 8 Dec 1998 20:06:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from x18.boston.juno.com (x18.boston.juno.com [205.231.101.29]) by ussenterprise.ufp.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id UAA05273 for ; Tue, 8 Dec 1998 20:06:42 -0500 (EST) From: tmbgirl@juno.com Received: (from tmbgirl@juno.com) by x18.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id DVY5K8CV; Tue, 08 Dec 1998 20:05:44 EST To: wagner@mindspring.com Cc: tmbg-list@tmbg.org Date: Tue, 8 Dec 1998 18:02:53 -0700 Subject: Re: NON TMBG:Go Easy on this Josh dude Message-ID: <19981208.180257.15110.5.TMBgirl@juno.com> References: <00c001be22ff$11ae6800$2dae45cf@computer> X-Mailer: Juno 1.49 X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 0-6,10-12,20,27-28,34-35,48-49,51-55 Sender: owner-tmbg-list@tmbg.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: tmbgirl@juno.com >i also think it's ironic that the same people that are getting pissed >off >about josh buckland's antics were the same people that were telling me >that >i didn't have to read all of that "crap" that i was receiving and that >everyone has their free say on this list. allright, i really hope you're not pointing fingers at me! All i've said is that i try to delete everything he ever sends but sometimes i forget to look who the messages are from and end up reading 'em anyways, much to my dismay. i think my basic stance is A) we don't need to dwell on this. josh is staying and well, if he leaves, i won't be in the least dissapointed (nor will any of the rest of list based solely on his little fun with death experiment where he told us all he was dead and no one cared.. in fact some list members were pleased... i know that would be my first clue that i didn't want to associate myself with or stick around these people, i mean come on, if they're pleased that you're dead? wouldn't you be a little concerned?). Oh and don't take us all as harsh evil people, take mike leffel for example, i'd say that 90% of the list was really dissapointed when we found out all the stuff he'd gone through and how sick he was. i know that if someone were to come back and tell us that the reason mike leffel has dissapeared was solely because he's dead, i think we'd all be really upset. prolly make a "MIKE LEFFEL" day. hell, i think every day should be mike leffel day but... B) i will continue to delete his messages as he is, IMHO, an immature (and very insecure) kid with a lot of growing up to do that has yet to post anything of interest to me and most likely never will... but i won't promote his being kicked off the list because, for all we know, someday by some rare occurence he'll mature and somehow something of interest will pop out of his mouth and i spose that's worth something. As far as it being ironic that it's the same people that hate josh as were telling you to deal with the crap. i don't think so. most of the people that deal with the "crap" are old listies, vets if you will. Many of us aren't really on here for the TMBG-content (as we know there isn't much of it). I know i'm not, in fact i basically stick around on this list for the "what other music are you listening to right now" threads (but that's another story). We get annoyed when he fills our mailboxes up with "TMBG's songs suck" and whatnot. we don't want to read about it and stuff like that is just wasting our time, there's no denying it... sure he's entitled to his opinions but telling a tmbg-FAN-mailing-list that They suck is kinda wiggity. now, if he'd bothered to back up his point with some relevant proof... sure i could undersatnd his wanting to argue but he didn't. allright, i'm rambling, i've had enough. The End (i hope of this thread). take it easy, JOrdaN http://www2.netcom.com/~arnot/joda/bootlegs.html :::THEY MIGHT BE GIANTS SUCK!::: ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] From owner-tmbg-list@tmbg.org Tue Dec 8 20:24:50 1998 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by ussenterprise.ufp.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id UAA06630 for tmbg-list-outgoing; Tue, 8 Dec 1998 20:24:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp0.mindspring.com (smtp0.mindspring.com [207.69.200.30]) by ussenterprise.ufp.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id UAA06621 for ; Tue, 8 Dec 1998 20:24:47 -0500 (EST) From: wagner@mindspring.com Received: from computer (user-38lca6k.dialup.mindspring.com [209.86.40.212]) by smtp0.mindspring.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id UAA07791 for ; Tue, 8 Dec 1998 20:24:41 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <007b01be2312$7021cf40$d42856d1@computer> To: Subject: TMBG: Mike Leffel Date: Tue, 8 Dec 1998 20:22:48 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-tmbg-list@tmbg.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: wagner@mindspring.com > Oh and don't take us all as harsh evil people, take mike leffel for >example, i'd say that 90% of the list was really dissapointed when we >found out all the stuff he'd gone through and how sick he was. i know >that if someone were to come back and tell us that the reason mike leffel >has dissapeared was solely because he's dead, i think we'd all be really >upset. prolly make a "MIKE LEFFEL" day. hell, i think every day should >be mike leffel day but... > i'll go ahead and ask the question -- who is mike leffel and why is he such a cool guy? i have no idea who he is or what he did (as i'm sure many others are), i'm curious as to why he's received so much acclaim. david. wagner@mindspring.com From owner-tmbg-list@tmbg.org Tue Dec 8 20:39:03 1998 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by ussenterprise.ufp.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id UAA07374 for tmbg-list-outgoing; Tue, 8 Dec 1998 20:39:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from m18.boston.juno.com (m18.boston.juno.com [205.231.101.191]) by ussenterprise.ufp.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id UAA07365 for ; Tue, 8 Dec 1998 20:38:59 -0500 (EST) Received: (from captainmarvel2@juno.com) by m18.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id DVY7F6ME; Tue, 08 Dec 1998 20:38:28 EST To: tmbgirl@juno.com Cc: tmbg-list@tmbg.org Date: Tue, 8 Dec 1998 20:37:35 -0500 Subject: Re: TMBG: bullsh*t Message-ID: <19981208.203739.11910.0.captainmarvel2@juno.com> References: <19981208183401.7086.qmail@hotmail.com> <19981208.173714.15110.0.TMBgirl@juno.com> X-Mailer: Juno 1.49 X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 1,3-4,6-7,11-14 From: captainmarvel2@juno.com (Derek A Klein) Sender: owner-tmbg-list@tmbg.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: captainmarvel2@juno.com (Derek A Klein) >>>yup, guess i'm in those 7. ;) i'll say, my love of bnl decreased sharply with >>>stun and everythign accompanying stunt. almost makes you love TMBG more > >just makes me wonder if all of us would still like TMBG if they hit it big again. Speaking from how I fell about them now: yes. But if I had no idea of who they were, other than some over-glorified, just like every other band out there kinda band, then I don't think I would have even given them a chance. And that would be a shame. Derek "What is everyone staring at?" ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] From owner-tmbg-list@tmbg.org Tue Dec 8 21:01:22 1998 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by ussenterprise.ufp.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id VAA08866 for tmbg-list-outgoing; Tue, 8 Dec 1998 21:01:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from m14.boston.juno.com (m14.boston.juno.com [205.231.101.193]) by ussenterprise.ufp.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id VAA08857 for ; Tue, 8 Dec 1998 21:01:19 -0500 (EST) Received: (from gray42@juno.com) by m14.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id DVY8QMEF; Tue, 08 Dec 1998 21:00:34 EST To: oflint@sophia.smith.edu Cc: tmbg-list@tmbg.org Date: Tue, 8 Dec 1998 17:01:22 -0500 Subject: Re: TMBG: Re: makin' a xmas tape Message-ID: <19981208.204822.-134347.1.gray42@juno.com> X-Mailer: Juno 2.0.11 X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 1-6,9 X-Juno-Att: 0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: gray42@juno.com (Claire V Gray) Sender: owner-tmbg-list@tmbg.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: gray42@juno.com (Claire V Gray) What about "New York City", when I think of New York, I think wintery, and this song has a holiday "be with your loved ones" theme :) Mysterio Gal (Hotel Detective) "It's like being the world's tallest midget." --Flansburgh MST3K#88182 gray42@juno.com, send attachments to mr_realgal@yahoo.com http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Coffeehouse/4871 The Official Project Omicrom website: www.geocities.com/SoHo/Square/9007 ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] From owner-tmbg-list@tmbg.org Tue Dec 8 21:05:20 1998 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by ussenterprise.ufp.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id VAA09286 for tmbg-list-outgoing; Tue, 8 Dec 1998 21:05:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from m14.boston.juno.com (m14.boston.juno.com [205.231.101.193]) by ussenterprise.ufp.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id VAA09277 for ; Tue, 8 Dec 1998 21:05:17 -0500 (EST) Received: (from gray42@juno.com) by m14.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id DVY8QMDH; Tue, 08 Dec 1998 21:00:34 EST To: Gweeg@aol.com Cc: tmbg-digest@tmbg.org Date: Tue, 8 Dec 1998 16:56:01 -0500 Subject: Re: TMBG: someone make a neat o websight Message-ID: <19981208.204822.-134347.0.gray42@juno.com> X-Mailer: Juno 2.0.11 X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 1-6,9 X-Juno-Att: 0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: gray42@juno.com (Claire V Gray) Sender: owner-tmbg-list@tmbg.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: gray42@juno.com (Claire V Gray) Hey what about combining the two, animal porn drawn by all the different album cover artists, or artists that just make you think TMBG :P Mysterio Gal (Hotel Detective) "It's like being the world's tallest midget." --Flansburgh MST3K#88182 gray42@juno.com, send attachments to mr_realgal@yahoo.com http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Coffeehouse/4871 The Official Project Omicrom website: www.geocities.com/SoHo/Square/9007 ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] From owner-tmbg-list@tmbg.org Tue Dec 8 21:05:29 1998 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by ussenterprise.ufp.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id VAA09331 for tmbg-list-outgoing; Tue, 8 Dec 1998 21:05:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from dmswebworks.com (simper.dmswebworks.com [208.153.182.15]) by ussenterprise.ufp.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id VAA09321 for ; Tue, 8 Dec 1998 21:05:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from [208.153.182.151] by dmswebworks.com with ESMTP (Eudora Internet Mail Server 2.0); Tue, 8 Dec 1998 20:05:14 -0500 X-Sender: ja0022@pop.drake.edu Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <19981208.204822.-134347.1.gray42@juno.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 8 Dec 1998 20:05:14 -0600 To: gray42@juno.com (Claire V Gray), oflint@sophia.smith.edu From: Jason Arnold Subject: Re: TMBG: Re: makin' a xmas tape Cc: tmbg-list@tmbg.org Sender: owner-tmbg-list@tmbg.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: Jason Arnold I was thinking that exact same thing It's snowing it's snowing god I hate this weather At 4:01 PM -0600 12/8/98, Claire V Gray wrote: >What about "New York City", when I think of New York, I think wintery, >and this song has a holiday "be with your loved ones" theme :) > >Mysterio Gal (Hotel Detective) >"It's like being the world's tallest midget." >--Flansburgh >MST3K#88182 >gray42@juno.com, send attachments to mr_realgal@yahoo.com >http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Coffeehouse/4871 The Official Project >Omicrom website: www.geocities.com/SoHo/Square/9007 > >___________________________________________________________________ >You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. >Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html >or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] From owner-tmbg-list@tmbg.org Tue Dec 8 21:31:48 1998 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by ussenterprise.ufp.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id VAA11153 for tmbg-list-outgoing; Tue, 8 Dec 1998 21:31:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from x18.boston.juno.com (x18.boston.juno.com [205.231.101.29]) by ussenterprise.ufp.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id VAA11142 for ; Tue, 8 Dec 1998 21:31:44 -0500 (EST) From: tmbgirl@juno.com Received: (from tmbgirl@juno.com) by x18.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id DVZAF9D9; Tue, 08 Dec 1998 21:30:57 EST To: captainmarvel2@juno.com Cc: tmbg-list@tmbg.org Date: Tue, 8 Dec 1998 19:05:52 -0700 Subject: Re: TMBG: bullsh*t Message-ID: <19981208.192823.15110.0.TMBgirl@juno.com> References: <19981208183401.7086.qmail@hotmail.com> X-Mailer: Juno 1.49 X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 0-7,9-12 Sender: owner-tmbg-list@tmbg.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: tmbgirl@juno.com >>just makes me wonder if all of us would still like TMBG if they hit >it big again. > >Speaking from how I fell about them now: yes. But if I had no idea of >who they were, other than some over-glorified, just like every other >band out there kinda band, then I don't think I would have even given >them a chance. And that would be a shame. okie... how bouts all the floodies out there? you think you'd do it all over again? take it easy, JOrdaN http://www2.netcom.com/~arnot/joda/bootlegs.html ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] From owner-tmbg-list@tmbg.org Tue Dec 8 21:35:09 1998 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by ussenterprise.ufp.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id VAA11302 for tmbg-list-outgoing; Tue, 8 Dec 1998 21:35:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from imo16.mx.aol.com (imo16.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.6]) by ussenterprise.ufp.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id VAA11293 for ; Tue, 8 Dec 1998 21:35:06 -0500 (EST) From: KdsInThHal@aol.com Received: from KdsInThHal@aol.com by imo16.mx.aol.com (IMOv18.1) id RBKJa22776 for ; Tue, 8 Dec 1998 21:28:25 +1900 (EST) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 8 Dec 1998 21:28:25 EST To: tmbg-list@tmbg.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: Non TMBG: Josh's Website Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL for Macintosh sub 189 Sender: owner-tmbg-list@tmbg.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: KdsInThHal@aol.com In a message dated 12/8/98 7:20:11 PM, Refund@nmt.edu writes: >is that Josh is (agreeing with another listee) very insecure, using things > >like his suicide note and his website for shock value, in an attempt to >get > >some attention. Sad, though it may seem, it has worked for him. another thing you have to remember is that he *is* like... 13-15 years old; *maybe* he's just one of those immature little boys ("huhhuh, death rocks!"). that could be the source of this.... that's no excuse though. sarah:) From owner-tmbg-list@tmbg.org Tue Dec 8 21:35:20 1998 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by ussenterprise.ufp.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id VAA11354 for tmbg-list-outgoing; Tue, 8 Dec 1998 21:35:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from x18.boston.juno.com (x18.boston.juno.com [205.231.101.29]) by ussenterprise.ufp.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id VAA11344 for ; Tue, 8 Dec 1998 21:35:17 -0500 (EST) From: tmbgirl@juno.com Received: (from tmbgirl@juno.com) by x18.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id DVZALEUV; Tue, 08 Dec 1998 21:33:14 EST To: ethuilcalen@yahoo.com Cc: tmbg-list@tmbg.com Date: Tue, 8 Dec 1998 19:29:49 -0700 Subject: Re: TMBG: Rolling Stones mag ad... Message-ID: <19981208.193005.15110.2.TMBgirl@juno.com> References: <19981208225340.2569.rocketmail@send106.yahoomail.com> X-Mailer: Juno 1.49 X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 1-5,7-31 Sender: owner-tmbg-list@tmbg.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: tmbgirl@juno.com yeah cuz you're not looking at the most recent mag... the newest one has a picture of jewel on teh cover... it's teh "best of 1998" mag. take it easy, JOrdaN http://www2.netcom.com/~arnot/joda/bootlegs.html On Wed, 9 Dec 1998 06:53:40 +0800 (SGT) Ethuilcalen writes: > >Okie, being the Giant-crazed person I am, I went out the other day and >bought the most recent Rolling Stones mag. The one with Will Smith on >the cover. I leafed through the entire thing twice, and couldn't find >the ad...am I looking in the wrong one? > >Julie :) > > > >== > > > >The Quote of the Day Brought to you by the Cerulean Blue Wierdo: > Hige sceal pe heardra, heorte pe cenre, > mod sceal pe mare pe ure maegen lytlad. > "Will shall be the sterner, heart the bolder, spirit the >greater as our heart lessens." >_________________________________________________________ >DO YOU YAHOO!? >Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > > ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] From owner-tmbg-list@tmbg.org Tue Dec 8 21:37:23 1998 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by ussenterprise.ufp.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id VAA11767 for tmbg-list-outgoing; Tue, 8 Dec 1998 21:37:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from send204.yahoomail.com (send204.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.158]) by ussenterprise.ufp.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id VAA11758 for ; Tue, 8 Dec 1998 21:37:19 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <19981209010326.12621.rocketmail@send204.yahoomail.com> Received: from [198.36.209.241] by send204.yahoomail.com; Tue, 08 Dec 1998 17:03:26 PST Date: Tue, 8 Dec 1998 17:03:26 -0800 (PST) From: Me Subject: TMBG: yet another pointless song interp To: tmbg-list@tmbg.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-tmbg-list@tmbg.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: Me So I was listening to Apollo 18 on the way to work today, and "See the Constellation" came on... It occurred to me that this song could just be a description of a drug trip, 60's style (the presence of the sitar and fuzz guitar as well as the vocal stylings point to a 60's sound). I've never dabbled in drugs myself, but I've talked to people when they're high, and if you've ever talked to such a person, you've probably noticed that they: 1. usually don't make much sense 2. are overwhelmed by the obvious Picture it: some guy is sitting on his front porch, stoned off his ass. He's looking at the sky, and in his altered state, he conjures up all these images. And like many people in such a state, he thinks he's coming up with all these great, deep thoughts. But he's actually just hallucinating and making a really big deal out of what is obvious to us non-altered folks. Figuring she sounds like she's tripping herself, Inspector Over the Mine _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From owner-tmbg-list@tmbg.org Tue Dec 8 21:38:41 1998 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by ussenterprise.ufp.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id VAA11932 for tmbg-list-outgoing; Tue, 8 Dec 1998 21:38:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from m14.boston.juno.com (m14.boston.juno.com [205.231.101.193]) by ussenterprise.ufp.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id VAA11921 for ; Tue, 8 Dec 1998 21:38:38 -0500 (EST) Received: (from gray42@juno.com) by m14.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id DVZAU692; Tue, 08 Dec 1998 21:38:01 EST To: wagner@mindspring.com Cc: dream_stage@hotmail.com, tmbg-list@tmbg.org Date: Tue, 8 Dec 1998 21:21:27 -0500 Subject: Re: NON TMBG:Go Easy on this Josh dude Message-ID: <19981208.212610.-134347.3.gray42@juno.com> X-Mailer: Juno 2.0.11 X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 0-4,6-7,10 X-Juno-Att: 0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: gray42@juno.com (Claire V Gray) Sender: owner-tmbg-list@tmbg.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: gray42@juno.com (Claire V Gray) I'm just proud that I am on no side and have no part in this... OOPS! Mysterio Gal (completely out to lunch in squaresville) Rule #666 Always speak in CAPITAL letters, DON'T send letters to the state CAPITAL MST3K#88182 gray42@juno.com, send attachments to mr_realgal@yahoo.com http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Coffeehouse/4871 The Official Project Omicrom website: www.geocities.com/SoHo/Square/9007 ________________________________________________________________ Get secure free e-mail that you don't need Web access to use from Juno, the world's second largest online service. Download your free software at http://www.juno.com/getit.b.html. ------------------------------ End of tmbg-list Digest #13-9 *****************************