Errors-To: owner-tmbg-digest@tmbg.org Reply-To: tmbg-digest@tmbg.org Sender: owner-tmbg-digest@tmbg.org Precedence: bulk From: owner-tmbg-digest@tmbg.org To: tmbg-digest@tmbg.org Subject: tmbg-list Digest #5-453 tmbg-list Digest, Volume 5, Number 453 Wednesday, 1 April 1998 Today's Topics: Barely TMBG: Titanic and the Popularity Problem TMBG: Re: tmbg-list Digest #4-452 Re: Barely TMBG: Titanic and the Popularity Problem Re: Really super-NON TMBG: Using the dead's name in vein TMBG: Cover Songs... TMBG: Some things that have to be said... Re: 1/10 TMBG:Titanic Re: 1/10 TMBG:Titanic Non-TMBG: Titanic crap Re:1/2 TMBG: the Popularity Problem Re: Really super-NON TMBG: Using the dead's name in vein Re: TMBG: Some things that have to be said... Re: TMBG: Some things that have to be said... Re: TMBG: Cover Songs... TMBG: monopuff concert this thursday! Non-TMBG: Mp3s?? TMBG: LIST: the continuing saga of Mike "ADOBE NEED KETCHUP!" Leffel... TMBG: mp3s/dr. spock/other rare CDs TMBG: READ THIS!!!! (OWU) Administrivia: If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing send mail to tmbg-digest-request@tmbg.org for instructions on how to be automatically removed. --------------------------------------------------------------------- The views expressed herein are those of the individual authors. --------------------------------------------------------------------- tmbg-list is digested with Digest 3.5b (John Relph ). ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message-Id: Date: Mon, 30 Mar 1998 23:57:00 -0800 From: J Chen Subject: Barely TMBG: Titanic and the Popularity Problem Man, am I getting sick of this debate. I hear it going on all around me, and now it hits the tmbg-list. Titanic is awesome/Titanic sucks. It's getting more annoying, but yet I insist on giving my take. Here goes (and I will tie this a bit to TMBG). I saw Titanic without having heard much about it. I knew that it was humongously budgeted and very long. I got a few opinions on it, one of which was from my best friend saying that it was a wonderful movie. I, myself, am a pretty cynical guy, although I love to give everything my objective eye when I first experience it; this goes for movies, music, video games, whatever. So I go to see Titanic alone. I give you the honest truth: this movie pulled emotions out of me that no movie ever pulled out of me before. In my opinion, that makes the movie great. In hindsight, I agree that the love storyline wasn't strong, but what it lacked in originality it made up for in universality. The movie itself, though, with the sinking scene and the real terror that it left me with in regards to being on a sinking ship, did a great job. To condemn the movie as merely a bad story written for mass commercialism is just plain ignorant. Now, whether or not it should have beaten LA Confidential as best picture, I don't know. Standing alone, the movie was very very good. I observed in the last few weeks what I call a mainstream backlash. Because we had heard so much about Titanic, and how everyone loved it, all of a sudden it became "hip" to hate the movie. I have friends who will refuse to see the movie just because everyone else likes it so much. I hate this about people; it happens all over the place, and _especially_ in the music industry. They are refusing to see a legitimately well-made and well-intentioned movie merely because everyone else loves it, and that it won all the Oscars only makes them hate it more. Come on. That's narrow-mindedness at its worst. Which brings back an old thread: if TMBG became popular, would you still like them? My instincts tell me: no. Although we have some true die-hard fans here, we also sincerely have people who have the mentality that, well, once something goes mainstream, it must then suck. Why do people lose their objectivity merely because others have an opinion on something? I challenege you, at least half of you, to really believe this: if TMBG hit the big time, you would stick around and still be the number-one kind of fans you are today. Do this for anything you love, not just TMBG. Do NOT be influenced by the masses. I've seen people hate things too easily. I've seen people hate Hanson, for instance, because suddenly they were everywhere. I never heard a song from them until the Grammy broadcast. At a time when I could've easily said, "Oh, Hanson, how annoying!", I instead said, "Say! You know, they're actually pretty talented!" I've still only heard the one song, but I don't hate them. Now maybe you saw Titanic with an open mind and really didn't like it. That's fine. But don't hate it more because the mainstream has embraced it. Then I couldn't believe you if say you'd stick with your favorite band through thick and thin. I believe we are all better than this. I saw Titanic. I loved it. And, yes, I think independently and I also love They Might Be Giants. Just my two cents (dollars?) worth, --LVJeff (I don't have time to proofread this so forgive any rambling paragraphs!) ==========================_______________________________________... . . . | from LVJeff | Kerim Bey: "But I am already in your debt." | friend to Lan's tigers | James Bond: "How can a friend be in debt?" | alecson@ucla.edu | ========================== - From Russia with Love ------------------------------ Message-ID: <35209EE6.342F61B5@bitstream.net> Date: Tue, 31 Mar 1998 01:44:38 -0600 From: vu Subject: TMBG: Re: tmbg-list Digest #4-452 > Anyone know of a MP3 or whatever the heck they are called player for the > Macintosh, and if so, where I can download one? i believe the makers of 'winamp' also make 'macamp' on their site: http://winamp.lh.net/main.html i haven't check that URL in a while, but i'm sure it exist.... it seems everyone is mad for mp3 lately hasn't it ? > Useless is the word to describe your opinion of James Cameron's > masterful film. You are in no position to condemn a film that you have > not even seen. As well, there were three ships built, one of which was i wasn't the one condemning the film, but i thought i'd jump on this subject..... i think that the reason why people hate titanic so much is because of all the hype surrounding. you really think titanic deserve 11 oscars (3 to mr cameron)? i dont think so... basically the academy gave the votes to titanic becos they thought it was endearing how cameron gave up his paycheck to finish the movie (wow what a hefty paycheck eh?) it would be good for something like 'the full monty' to win out, given the fact that it was made tenbillion dollars cheaper than the boat movie (with hilarious acting). i have like all of cameron's movies, but i am however annoyed by the whole leonardo dicaprio and the whole hype thing.... oh and let's not forget that love song by celion delion--- eeek > director and titanic was good but it was NOT best picture material .i deserved > alot of the awars it got but giving it best picture was a farce .This was one > award that was gotten by strong box office.On a 1-10 scale give titanic a 4 . exactly, ben. when has 'popular' equal good anyway? point: spice girls.the only sleeper fan on this list, vu -- http://www2.bitstream.net/~sleeper ------------------------------ Message-ID: Date: Tue, 31 Mar 1998 09:54:46 -0500 (EST) From: Lawrence P Solomon Subject: Re: Barely TMBG: Titanic and the Popularity Problem Excerpts from internet.music.tmbg: 30-Mar-98 Barely TMBG: Titanic and th.. by J Chen@ucla.edu > Which brings back an old thread: if TMBG became popular, would you > still like them? My instincts tell me: no. Although we have some true > die-hard fans here, we also sincerely have people who have the mentality > that, well, once something goes mainstream, it must then suck. Why do > people lose their objectivity merely because others have an opinion on > something? I challenege you, at least half of you, to really believe this: > if TMBG hit the big time, you would stick around and still be the > number-one kind of fans you are today. Do this for anything you love, not it really depends. if they became mainstream and did so by producing lousy music, I'd probably leave... and stick with the old stuff. my main problem with most 'mainstream' music is that it's popular for really inexplicable reasons. a large portion of mainstream bands *have* sold out... I don't want TMBG to do that - but if they happened to become popular because they wrote songs that were both good and had popular appeal, I wouldn't have a problem with it. it's if they started writing crap just to make money that would be bad. Lawrence Solomon http://www.contrib.andrew.cmu.edu/~lps/ lps@andrew.cmu.edu "Everything sticks until it goes away, * This space inadvertently And the truth is we don't know anything." -TMBG * left blank. ------------------------------ Message-ID: <3521439C.4B03@geocities.com> Date: Tue, 31 Mar 1998 11:27:24 -0800 From: Nathan Mulac DeHoff Organization: The Intergalactic Cult of VoVat Subject: Re: Really super-NON TMBG: Using the dead's name in vein Kirsten Brodbeck wrote: > > >Dylan Flipse from Williamsport, PA: Any chance of Arthur, Ford, and > >the > >rest coming back from the dead for a sixth book? > >DA: At some point, it's quite likely, though no time frame at the moment. > > Hmm... I always figured that he ended _Mostly Harmless_ the way he > did so he wouldn't be tempted to write more... :) I had that idea, too. There is some ambiguity left after _Mostly Harmless_, though. The big question that I had concerned Slartibartfast's statement in the first book that the Earth was destroyed five minutes before its program was completed. Well, since the alternate Earth featured in MH wasn't destroyed by the Vogons, wouldn't it have worked out the Answer by the time in which the story took place? > Anyway, I must join the ranks (of two?) and say I still don't really >"get" "Young Zaphod Plays It Safe." I didn't, either. I've only read it once so far, but I'm planning on reading it again soon. I just reread _The Restaurant at the End of the Universe_ yesterday. -- Nathan Mulac DeHoff vovat@geocities.com http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Corridor/5447/ "All I know could be defaced by the facts in the life of Chess Piece Face." ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Mar 1998 08:45:06 -0700 (MST) From: jim Subject: TMBG: Cover Songs... Message-ID: So there I was last night in Albuquerque, New Mexico listening to this mediocre punk band by the name of Hag Fish who were opening up for Save Ferris. I was annoyed by the fact that it was an all ages show and freakin little 13 year olds were bumping into me from their "mosh pit." Just when I was ready to give up on the band and go to the bar for another beer and sactuary suddenly there arose such a clatter that I sprang from my bed to see what was the matter. No wait, wrong story. Oh, ok, so this band Hag Fish started a song with a heavy lead guitar intro that sounded really familiar and BAM! They started singing a cover of "Twistin'!" I was taken back and couldn't believe that a punk band was covering a tMBg song. So I did what any well respected they MIGHT BE giants fan would do and went completely nuts. I started yelling and screaming and dancing and jumping all around the 7th graders. My friends thought that I just went insane from being around the mindless crowd of prepubecent teenagers and that I couldn't help but act looney. But get this, Hag Fish's cover song was really cool. It was faster (like any punk song should be) but they kept up with the lyrics exactly and they even did a cool twisting dance during the bridge. I guess all the energy I released started another "mosh pit" with the middle school punks. Looking back, it reminded me of someone being attacked by a pack of wild miniture poodles. When the song was over I yelled out, "YEAH! Way to f(explicitive)ing cover a they MIGHT BE giants song!" The person in front of me, who was probably the only one who heard me, replied, "No Shit." The moral of the story: I will seriously weigh my options before going to another all ages concert. ------------------------------ Message-Id: <3.0.2.32.19980331174009.007c79f0@mail-in.keme.net> Date: Tue, 31 Mar 1998 17:40:09 +0100 From: Stormy Pinkness Subject: TMBG: Some things that have to be said... Hello Giant Heads from here in sunny England, Right, First point: Please shut up about Titanic. It's not worth arguing about. If you like it, you like it, if you don't, then I guess you don't. Second point: I was wondering. Is the s'posed new album called "Severe Tyre Damage", or "Severe Tire Damage"? Third point: Ok, I bit off more than I could chew with three but that's not the point! -- COLIN ELLESELEY -- Editor/Partner: USM-RIP Distributor: Elite clothing and all 'round nice fella ===================================== ===================================== "My friend, deserves better than you, someone to adore, baby you're a whore. My friend says that you make him blue, but if baby you're a whore, you can come knocking at my door -- Bennet "Hot Shot" ===================================== ===================================== ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Mar 1998 11:10:14 -0600 (CST) From: "Christopher M. Stangl" Subject: Re: 1/10 TMBG:Titanic Message-ID: On Mon, 30 Mar 1998, BenMoobil wrote: > Titanic - goos special effects ,a joke of a secondary story , if the ship > hadn't been in it this movie would have needed a barf bag. cameron is a great > director Define "great" for me... "Piranha II" is "great"? > and titanic was good but it was NOT best picture material . This is a major problem I have with a lot of people's complaints. Fact is "Titanic" *is* Best Picture material. It's *exactly* the kind of thing the Academy eats up. OF COURSE it won Best Picture. Does that mean it *was* the best picture of the year? No, of course not. There's no such thing as "the best film to come out in a 12 month period". Art isn't in competition with other art. If I had to pick, my favorite *26* films of 1997 weren't even *nominated*! Furthermore, I cannot think of one single year in Academy history when I would agree with the Best Picture choice. But anyone who's even bothered to look at a list of Best Picture winners would know that "Titanic" most certainly is "Best Picture material". > i deserved alot of the awards it got but giving it best picture was a > farce . I agree Ben. You deserved a lot of the awards that "Titanic" got. I mean, Ben was *obviously* the best director to step behind a camera in 1997... and that Best Song thing! Man, I thought you were a shoe-in! As for that "farce" bit... it was no more a farce than any other year. It would only be a "farce" for people who actually take the Academy Awards seriously, and think that the folks who get to vote on such things actually know anything about film. They don't. Most of the voting pool is comprised of actors. And nobody is forced to see all the nominated films, let alone every single release of the year (which obviously *should* be requisite, if you wanted to do it fairly). > This was one award that was gotten by strong box office.On a 1-10 scale > give titanic a 4 . > The Ben I give "Titanic" a modest recommendation mostly on the fact that it's now a somewhat important cultural event. I'm glad I'm among the millions who saw it in its first run, stood in line, and sat in the dark surrounded by crying folks. I'll be able to tell people that when I'm old, just as I like hearing stories about people who attended early screenings of "The Rocky Horror Picture Show", or got into "Star Wars" or "Gone With The Wind" during their first weeks of release. "Titanic" was a good time as an Event for me, and that's about it. -Chris Stangl ------------------------------ From: Monotreme3 Message-ID: <3d2095a1.35212c2e@aol.com> Date: Tue, 31 Mar 1998 12:47:24 EST Subject: Re: 1/10 TMBG:Titanic In a message dated 3/31/98 12:11:33 PM Eastern Standard Time, cstangl@tangl.weeg.uiowa.edu writes: > > Titanic - goos special effects ,a joke of a secondary story , if the ship > > hadn't been in it this movie would have needed a barf bag. cameron is a > great > > director > > Define "great" for me... "Piranha II" is "great"? GREAT i.e. Terminator, Terminator 2, Aliens... hello? Ring any bells? Hear the sounds? The directions? Following instructions? Hello? -Carey ------------------------------ From: Monotreme3 Message-ID: <26cd8821.35212d8c@aol.com> Date: Tue, 31 Mar 1998 12:53:15 EST Subject: Non-TMBG: Titanic crap Enough already. Oh poor you! You don't like Titanic. You either payed or didn't pay to go see it and you didn't or don't like it for some number of really intelligent and intellectual reasons! So what? I liked it... you didn't. Sure, I thought L.A. Confidential was better. I even kinda liked As Good as it Gets better than the both of them. Maybe that was just the mood I was in when I saw it. But who cares? Maybe you didn't like any of those. Maybe you're my friend Dave and you're so antisocial that you just don't like much at all and it gives you a real thrill to know that you just shot someone in the eye on Bond. And maybe you'll find it in your heart to stop venting about something that won't be affected by your venting, that being the movie, its awards, and other people's opinions about both. -Chad "There's a role of tape on my roommate's pillow." MacFadd ------------------------------ From: gray42@juno.com Date: Tue, 31 Mar 1998 12:40:55 -0500 Subject: Re:1/2 TMBG: the Popularity Problem Message-ID: <19980331.125816.3174.0.gray42@juno.com> I admit that the poularity of Titanic is somewhat of a turn off, but I also haven't seen it yet, merely because I wanted to spend my money on Sphere, which I thouroghly enjoyed (as an also die-hard Michael Crichton fan) It's pretty much the only movie I had been to this year. I'm a vidio kind of person, of course everyone's telling me to see Titanic while it is still on the big screen. Now on to TMBG. I've known their music for five years, I've listened to every large album, and a few singles, I even now love Monopuff, the music is very addictive. I already have a couple friends who are turned off by what they say as "TMBG is becoming normal," and "I liked them better when they weren't so popular," In my eyes, TMBG still make me incredibly happy, their music is still uncomparable to any other group that I've heard (to me this means that they have gotten away from society and its terrible trap for mankind). They haven't gone capitalist and all that because they still have Dial-A-Song for free. They keep rolling out new albums for me to listen to, and so far I've enjoyed every song I've heard. And I most likely will also enjoy future albums to come. I don't hate or love Titanic simply because I haven't experienced it yet. I just felt that it was pretty interesting that Adams wrote that thing about the starship Titanic about ten years ago, and that a year ago I read an article in my computer magazine about the game, and now there's a movie about the real titanic, and how Douglas Adams game is comming out riht now in all this comercialism, and popularity of Titanic. _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ From: gray42@a.com Date: Tue, 31 Mar 1998 12:54:00 -0500 Subject: Re: Really super-NON TMBG: Using the dead's name in vein Message-ID: <19980331.125816.3174.1.gray42@juno.com> Ok, i mostly harmless, did anyone catch the fact that the character's died on 42nd street. Does this hold any importance in finding out the ultimate question. I'd also like to add that in the past, several times, Adams had said that Hitchhiker's was definitely at its end and that there would be no more books, but he kept writing more. Mostly Harmless deppresed the hell out of me cause it seems as though it was finally true, but if adams really said that the characters might come back from the dead, well then yee ha, I can feel happy about that. For instance what ever happened to Zaphod and Fenchurch. If fenchurch dissapered, she must have ended up somewhere, You can also create a whole new bizzaro story from what you find out in Young Zaphod Plays it Safe. There are still a few more small posibilities. Mysterio Gal "They've Garble Warble Fashes" --Slartibartfast ICQ# 9585405 gray42@juno.com _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Message-ID: <352169DD.54EA@geocities.com> Date: Tue, 31 Mar 1998 14:10:37 -0800 From: Nathan Mulac DeHoff Organization: The Intergalactic Cult of VoVat Subject: Re: TMBG: Some things that have to be said... Stormy Pinkness wrote: > Second point: I was wondering. Is the s'posed new album called "Severe > Tyre Damage", or "Severe Tire Damage"? Well, since the Johns are American, I'm pretty sure that it's "Severe Tire Damage." I don't know if they're going to change the name for the British release, but I would tend to doubt it. -- Nathan Mulac DeHoff vovat@geocities.com http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Corridor/5447/ "All I know could be defaced by the facts in the life of Chess Piece Face." ------------------------------ Message-Id: <3.0.2.32.19980331195133.007cbe80@mail-in.keme.net> Date: Tue, 31 Mar 1998 19:51:33 +0100 From: Stormy Pinkness Subject: Re: TMBG: Some things that have to be said... At 14:10 31/03/98 -0800, you wrote: >Stormy Pinkness wrote: >> Second point: I was wondering. Is the s'posed new album called "Severe >> Tyre Damage", or "Severe Tire Damage"? > >Well, since the Johns are American, I'm pretty sure that it's "Severe >Tire Damage." I don't know if they're going to change the name for the >British release, but I would tend to doubt it. >-- >Nathan Mulac DeHoff >vovat@geocities.com >http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Corridor/5447/ Ummmm... Tyre's are tyres in Britain as well as the US y'know. I meant tire as in a weakend state due to lack of sleep and not black things that cars have... sorry for the mix up. I am british after all!!! >"All I know could be defaced by the facts in the life of Chess Piece >Face." > > -- COLIN ELLESLEY -- AKA: Uncle Squid, Stormy Pinkness, Triangle man, Thick Brit Editor/Partner: USM-RIP Distributor: Elite clothing and all 'round nice fella ===================================== ===================================== "My friend, deserves better than you, someone to adore, baby you're a whore. My friend says that you make him blue, but if baby you're a whore, you can come knocking at my door -- Bennet "Hot Shot" ===================================== ===================================== ------------------------------ From: mr.train@juno.com Date: Tue, 31 Mar 1998 14:04:29 -0500 Subject: Re: TMBG: Cover Songs... Message-ID: <19980331.140539.4398.0.Mr.Train@juno.com> On Tue, 31 Mar 1998 08:45:06 -0700 (MST) jim writes: <>Oh, ok, so this band >Hag Fish started a song with a heavy lead guitar intro that sounded really >familiar and BAM! They started singing a cover of "Twistin'!" I was <> If anyone is interested, I have a copy of this song in Real Audio format... Since I really hate one word posts, I noticed that you can order Fun To Steal from CDNow for $11.99 I don't think I'm going to get mine there.. but incase anyone wants to preorder it, this is the place to do it... I am also expecting my John Henry w/ bonus tracks today (which I ordered by following the link from TMBG.org! Got $10 off too!)... It is IMO the closest I'll ever get to Live in NY... Tim, he wants to be the night security Miscellaneous Tim AKA TMB(do)G AKA Tambo (IRC) AKA Mr.Train (OML) Favorite TMBG song update: They'll Need A Crane Last CD purchase: JH w/ Live tracks _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Mar 1998 14:17:41 -0600 (CST) From: rogers@AC.GRIN.EDU Subject: TMBG: monopuff concert this thursday! Message-id: This may already be common knowledge, but Mono Puff and Brian Dewan are going to be at the Mercury Lounge this Friday, according to tourdates.com. As always, they pick the week after I return to school. (I will not even get into the fact I will miss the Seton Hall show, approximately 500 feet from my house, on April 15.) --Jamal ------------------------------ Message-ID: <3521865A.30E9@stlnet.com> Date: Tue, 31 Mar 1998 18:12:39 -0600 From: Lynne Subject: Non-TMBG: Mp3s?? Hello... Thanks for all your mail about the mac Mp3 player, I finally found what I was looking for... Now, does anyone know where I can get Mp3s? Besides TDK's page, I mean? Thanks. Chris chrisl@stlnet.com "Support plagiarism, buy Windows 95." ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Mar 1998 18:48:12 -0700 (MST) From: J Kuemmerle Subject: TMBG: LIST: the continuing saga of Mike "ADOBE NEED KETCHUP!" Leffel... Message-ID: hey everybody!! mike leffel is alive and well and terrorizing his little corner of the galaxy. he sends his regards, and has asked me to tell you that he will make a triumphant (ta daaaa!) return after he has escaped from the extraterrestrial stronghold where his tormentors are keeping him prisoner. unlike his captivity within the Fortress of Jello, whose walls he found to be edible, his captivity within the Fortress of Stucco has been more arduous due to chronic indigestion... if any of you want to get in touch with him, e-mail me off-list for his address... --jim kuemmerle, who also expected titanic to suck but was surprised... j.kuemmerle@m.cc.utah.edu SKULL MOUNTAIN: we'll meet at the end of the tour... http://www.geocities.com/soho/gallery/4668/skullmountain.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Mar 1998 21:10:17 -0500 (EST) From: Jish Subject: TMBG: mp3s/dr. spock/other rare CDs Message-ID: Ok, sorta sorry to post this here but there are a couple things I need to figure out: 1.) I will be putting up mp3s from Dr. Spock's...however...the first one I made only sounds good at 256kbps which would create 6 meg mp3s...if need be I will put them up like that... 2.) I have Live in NYC, the EPs, and Dr. Spock's all on CD... I also have a CD burner...so if anybody out there has anything weird I don't have (ie, Kit Kat Acoustic Break or Mountain Stage or something....) on CD and also has access to a burner I would be interested in working out a trade. I also am very open to burning copies for people in exchange for tapes or even just for postage...but I am already backlogged....AND HEY EVERYBODY YOU ARE GOING TO GET YOUR CDs so quit bothering me... um yea...college sucks...I haven't seen Titanic...umm... :) yea Jish ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Mar 1998 23:05:26 -0500 Subject: TMBG: READ THIS!!!! (OWU) Message-ID: <19980331.230528.15030.0.tmbgmail-bin@juno.com> From: tmbgmail-bin@juno.com (Evan R Kleve) Hi everybody! Once again I have been away from the list for quite some time and I've missed you all terribly. Anybody still remember me? ;-) Anyway, the main purpose of this message is the following: I need info on the concert at Delaware OH on 04/26/98 and I need it fast. So please pay attention, especially if you're a student of OWU. Is this a free concert, or do I need to purchase tickets? I will worship you forever if somebody gives me a number to call for ordering tickets. Somebody please respond to this message, please! I'm down on my knees!! Ok, that's enough groveling for now I suppose... :-) Your psychotically deranged yet friendly pal, Evan ############################################# "We were once so close to heaven Peter came out and gave us medals Declaring us the nicest of the damned" -John Flansburgh of They Might Be Giants _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ End of tmbg-list Digest #5-453 ******************************