Errors-To: owner-tmbg-digest@tmbg.org Reply-To: tmbg-digest@tmbg.org Sender: owner-tmbg-digest@tmbg.org Precedence: bulk From: owner-tmbg-digest@tmbg.org To: tmbg-digest@tmbg.org Subject: tmbg-list Digest #6-29 tmbg-list Digest, Volume 6, Number 29 Friday, 29 May 1998 Today's Topics: Re: TMBG: Non They Related(films) Re: TMBG: They Might Be Giants - The Movie Re: TMBG: hey! who's that playing? Re: TMBG: hey! who's that playing? Re: TMBG: Is it Naked Jim eating Lunch? TMBG: Mike Leffel TMBG: Phil Hartman Re: NON-TMBG: Phil Hartman Re: TMBG: Phil Hartman Re: TMBG: Mike Leffel Re: TMBG: Phil Hartman Re: TMBG: Phil Hartman Re: TMBG: Phil Hartman Re: TMBG: Phil Hartman TMBG: Hey a movie is on! Re: TMBG: Phil Hartman Non-TMBG: The curse of Saturday Night Live Re: Non-TMBG: The curse of Saturday Night Live Re: TMBG: Phil Hartman Re: TMBG: Phil Hartman Re: TMBG: Phil Hartman NON-TMBG: Re: Phil Hartman Re: TMBG: Phil Hartman Re: TMBG: Phil Hartman TMBG: Phil Hartman Re: TMBG: Chris Farley, Hanson Re: NON-TMBG: Re: Phil Hartman Re: NON-TMBG: Phil Hartman Re: NON-TMBG: Phil Hartman Re: TMBG: Phil Hartman TMBG: Phil Hartman Re: Non-TMBG: The curse of Saturday Night Live Re: TMBG: Chris Farley, Hanson Re: Non-TMBG: The curse of Saturday Night Live An excellent suggestion+Semi-TMBG:Baseball Tonight Non-TMBG: Re: Phil Hartman NON-TMBG: Hanson (was: Re: TMBG: Phil Hartman) Re: TMBG: Phil Hartman Re: An excellent suggestion+Semi-TMBG:Baseball Tonight Re: An excellent suggestion+Semi-TMBG:Baseball Tonight TMBG: this is way out of hand already.... Re: TMBG: Phil Hartman & Chris Farley Re: TMBG: Phil Hartman/Chris Farley/Kicking People Off The List... TMBG: my take on things. Administrivia: If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing send mail to tmbg-digest-request@tmbg.org for instructions on how to be automatically removed. --------------------------------------------------------------------- The views expressed herein are those of the individual authors. --------------------------------------------------------------------- tmbg-list is digested with Digest 3.5b (John Relph ). ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message-ID: <19980528124313.19088.rocketmail@send1e.yahoomail.com> Date: Thu, 28 May 1998 05:43:13 -0700 (PDT) From: Leanne Fraser Subject: Re: TMBG: Non They Related(films) > OH MY GOD... that has to be one of my favorite movies of all times. I > hate to clogg up the list with stupid posts, but damn, I just had to > acknowledge that. By the way, Leanne, if you liked Dead Man, you should also > see "Mystery Train". Its by the same guy and Steve Buscemi is in it... and > who doesn't love Steve, am i right? > Actually, I have seen it. And it was a Great Movie! P L & V Leanne _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ From: tmbgirl@juno.com Date: Thu, 28 May 1998 07:45:05 -0600 Subject: Re: TMBG: They Might Be Giants - The Movie Message-ID: <19980528.074857.11134.4.TMBgirl@juno.com> >I have >never >been to a video store that had it or could get it on request. But I >keep >looking. I am sure someone has seen it, please fill me in. go to blockbuster... on a side note, john and john always say how crappy this movie is... i really didn't think it was that bad (am i the only one?) maybe it's just cuz my ex used to act like him... >Now howabout if TMBG made a movie about themselves? > I don't think it'd work without Dan Akroyd as Flans... i'm still for david spade taking the role of linny... take it easy, JOrdaN http://www2.netcom.com/~arnot/joda/bootlegs.html _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ From: tmbgirl@juno.com Date: Thu, 28 May 1998 07:48:53 -0600 Subject: Re: TMBG: hey! who's that playing? Message-ID: <19980528.074857.11134.5.TMBgirl@juno.com> >remember a short while back, TMBG's old drummer (JD Feinberg? I hope >that's >right) posted to the newsgroup about his web page? any of you visit >it? right >on it, he states that he in fact *is* The Jim referred to in The >Guitar. WHOAWHOA!!! the "J" in J.D Feingberg's name stands for jim? i always assumed it was Jim O'Conner (the trumpet player) but someone told me it was that cartoonist... J. Otto Seibold (sp?) take it easy, JOrdaN http://www2.netcom.com/~arnot/joda/bootlegs.html _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Message-ID: <356D52F8.48AF2B79@mix-net.net> Date: Thu, 28 May 1998 12:05:22 +0000 From: "Chris \"Feeny\" Campbell" Subject: Re: TMBG: hey! who's that playing? > > > WHOAWHOA!!! > the "J" in J.D Feingberg's name stands for jim? No, his name is Jon not Jim. Sorry, good guess though! -Chris "Sensurround" "Sensefeeny" Feeny Campbell ------------------------------ From: "Drunken Bird" Organization: Columbus State Univ.,Columbus, Ga. Date: Thu, 28 May 1998 12:26:00 EST Subject: Re: TMBG: Is it Naked Jim eating Lunch? Message-ID: <1559AE72ED1@colstate.edu> > Excuse my dumbness (my teacher gave me a note), but do we know for sure which Jim They > were talking about? I have always assumed it was Jim Morrison. I only questioned that > today, when I ran into another Morrison. Whoops.. my bad, I meant to say Jimi Hendrix.. I was exposed to both Jims at the same point in my life. - Drunken "Abort, Retry, Fail? approach to life" Bird ------------------------------ Message-ID: <356D9907.E10ACD89@qn.net> Date: Thu, 28 May 1998 13:04:07 -0400 From: Diana Kocar Subject: TMBG: Mike Leffel Maybe I'm just a bit out of it, but I was just wondering who in the world Mike Leffel really is, and why do we keep talking about him?? Maybe I missed the original post about him, but I'm really confused.... Diana ------------------------------ From: Tmbgneat@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Thu, 28 May 1998 13:02:35 EDT Subject: TMBG: Phil Hartman Phil Hartman found dead shot to death!.......lets all cry together!.... :-( ------------------------------ Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980528130431.006a5ac8@mail.clemson.edu> Date: Thu, 28 May 1998 13:04:31 -0400 From: Adam Tyner Subject: Re: NON-TMBG: Phil Hartman Before anyone asks if this is for real, I'm sad to say that it is. :( http://www.nando.com/newsroom/ntn/enter/052898/entert_20779.html -Adam At 01:02 PM 5/28/98 EDT, Tmbgneat@aol.com wrote: >Phil Hartman found dead shot to death!.......lets all cry together!.... :-( > > /=---------------- http://www.he-man.org/ctyner/ ----------------=\ http://www.awod.com/gallery/rwav/ctyner/ The home of He-Man, "Weird Al", Yoo-hoo, Killer Tomatoes, and more! Demented music list admin O- MiSTie #67,326 ------------------------------ From: KdsInThHal@aol.com Message-ID: <19b22989.356d9ac5@aol.com> Date: Thu, 28 May 1998 13:11:32 EDT Subject: Re: TMBG: Phil Hartman [Attachment omitted, unknown MIME type or encoding (message/rfc822)] Mike Leffel is 90% water and 4000% bigger than the list. (I am bigger than the list too, but that is a whole different discusion. Last I checked, he was 200 feet tall and 6 pounds 4 ounces of killing pleasure. He once destroyed the world and put it back together again to prove that he was DOG, or something that had those letters in it. Let it be known, that Leffel is the only one not owned by the great Shasta, in fact he owns Shasta. Do not ask, lest you be told, LDB (Leffel Destroys Ballywho) At 01:04 PM 5/28/98 -0400, Diana Kocar wrote: >Maybe I'm just a bit out of it, but I was just wondering who in the >world Mike Leffel really is, and why do we keep talking about him?? >Maybe I missed the original post about him, but I'm really confused.... > > >Diana > > > > -- (this site cuts the amount of URL's I put in my Sig) My Web Page Index: http://www.cybnetonline.com/users/njack/ TMBG | D.U.M.B. NEWS | Mr. Gone Font -- Contemporary Cartoon Militia is (C) & TM 1998 S. Steven Struble and Kris W. M. Struble. The Li'l Depressed Boy, Phreeck, Spyder Hunt, and all related characters (C) & TM 1998 S. Steven Struble From owner-tmbg-list@tmbg.org Thu May 28 13:44:40 1998 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by ussenterprise.ufp.org (8.8.8/8.8.7) id NAA29650 for tmbg-list-outgoing; Thu, 28 May 1998 13:44:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from f03n03.cac.psu.edu (f03n03-fddi.cac.psu.edu [146.186.157.10]) by ussenterprise.ufp.org (8.8.8/8.8.7) with ESMTP id NAA29637 for ; Thu, 28 May 1998 13:44:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from bluedog.cac.psu.edu (access-isdn1-7.gv.psu.edu [146.186.229.9]) by f03n03.cac.psu.edu (8.8.7/8.6.12) with SMTP id NAA54364 for ; Thu, 28 May 1998 13:09:38 -0400 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19980528130733.007f66b0@email.psu.edu> X-Sender: jls5@email.psu.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Thu, 28 May 1998 13:07:33 -0400 To: tmbg-list@tmbg.org (They Might Be the List) From: "J. L. Moquin" Subject: Re: TMBG: Phil Hartman In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-tmbg-list@tmbg.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: "J. L. Moquin" Tmbgneat@aol.com wrote: >Phil Hartman found dead shot to death!.......lets all cry together!.... :-( Waaahh!! Troy McClure!!! Bill MacNeal!!! :'( I'm gonna miss him a LOT more than Chris Farley... :( -jennifer, mommy to alice the bean, 8/15/97 http://www.emprl.psu.edu/~anth/ mailto:jls5@psu.edu "Some women have reported problems using Reality." -- Instructions for the female condom From owner-tmbg-list@tmbg.org Thu May 28 15:37:52 1998 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by ussenterprise.ufp.org (8.8.8/8.8.7) id PAA05130 for tmbg-list-outgoing; Thu, 28 May 1998 15:37:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from imo14.mx.aol.com (imo14.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.36]) by ussenterprise.ufp.org (8.8.8/8.8.7) with ESMTP id PAA05120 for ; Thu, 28 May 1998 15:37:47 -0400 (EDT) From: BrthrJuan@aol.com Received: from BrthrJuan@aol.com by imo14.mx.aol.com (IMOv14_b1.1) id IWVVa27465 for ; Thu, 28 May 1998 15:36:31 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <39359b2e.356dbcc3@aol.com> Date: Thu, 28 May 1998 15:36:31 EDT To: tmbg-list@tmbg.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: TMBG: Phil Hartman Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 170 Sender: owner-tmbg-list@tmbg.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: BrthrJuan@aol.com In a message dated 5/28/98 1:45:15 PM Eastern Daylight Time, jls5@psu.edu writes: > >Phil Hartman found dead shot to death!.......lets all cry together!.... :-( > > Waaahh!! Troy McClure!!! Bill MacNeal!!! :'( > I'm gonna miss him a LOT more than Chris Farley... :( all offense intended, chris farley was not even 1/1,000,000 of the talent that phil hartman was. all chris can do is yell and get hit with things.... phil hartman actually had talent, and he will truely be missed. luckily he did film another movie before this happened, so that will be released, but the simpsons will not be the same with out him (lionel hutz as well, and a few more) and i am wondering what will happen to news radio which was supposed to have another season. i am hoping that out of respect, they forget about it. there is no way that show could ever be the same either. aaron From owner-tmbg-list@tmbg.org Thu May 28 16:11:24 1998 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by ussenterprise.ufp.org (8.8.8/8.8.7) id QAA06742 for tmbg-list-outgoing; Thu, 28 May 1998 16:11:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from uhura.concentric.net (uhura.concentric.net [206.173.119.93]) by ussenterprise.ufp.org (8.8.8/8.8.7) with ESMTP id QAA06733 for ; Thu, 28 May 1998 16:11:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from marconi.concentric.net (marconi [206.173.119.71]) by uhura.concentric.net (8.8.8/(98/05/18 5.10)) id QAA20499; Thu, 28 May 1998 16:11:20 -0400 (EDT) [1-800-745-2747 The Concentric Network] Received: from concentric.net (ts008d20.okc-ok.concentric.net [206.173.130.200]) by marconi.concentric.net (8.8.8) id QAA25085; Thu, 28 May 1998 16:11:18 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <356DC5F9.FC1AF445@concentric.net> Date: Thu, 28 May 1998 15:15:53 -0500 From: Anastasia hunt Organization: BFE Productions X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en]C-DIAL (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Tmbgneat@aol.com CC: tmbg-list@tmbg.org Subject: Re: TMBG: Phil Hartman References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-tmbg-list@tmbg.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: Anastasia hunt What??? Is this true? Tmbgneat@aol.com wrote: > Phil Hartman found dead shot to death!.......lets all cry together!.... :-( From owner-tmbg-list@tmbg.org Thu May 28 16:33:08 1998 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by ussenterprise.ufp.org (8.8.8/8.8.7) id QAA07717 for tmbg-list-outgoing; Thu, 28 May 1998 16:33:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from imo17.mx.aol.com (imo17.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.39]) by ussenterprise.ufp.org (8.8.8/8.8.7) with ESMTP id QAA07706 for ; Thu, 28 May 1998 16:32:59 -0400 (EDT) From: DrWormX@aol.com Received: from DrWormX@aol.com by imo17.mx.aol.com (IMOv14_b1.1) id IGGGa08936 for ; Thu, 28 May 1998 16:32:04 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <7485c82.356dc9c5@aol.com> Date: Thu, 28 May 1998 16:32:04 EDT To: tmbg-list@tmbg.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: TMBG: Phil Hartman Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 120 Sender: owner-tmbg-list@tmbg.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: DrWormX@aol.com okay, the truth about phil is that his wife brin commited a homoside/suicide, killing phil, and herself...I am truly saddened by the loss. I am also ashamed of the few people that said how he would be missed so much more than Chris Farley; this statement really pissed me off. Matt- depressed and pissed off The few surviving samurai surveyed the battle field, they count the arms, the legs, and heads, and then divide by five http://members.aol.com/DrWormX From owner-tmbg-list@tmbg.org Thu May 28 16:35:16 1998 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by ussenterprise.ufp.org (8.8.8/8.8.7) id QAA08076 for tmbg-list-outgoing; Thu, 28 May 1998 16:35:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from onyx.southwind.net (root@onyx.southwind.net [206.53.103.2]) by ussenterprise.ufp.org (8.8.8/8.8.7) with ESMTP id QAA08065 for ; Thu, 28 May 1998 16:35:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from default (Njack@[206.53.111.197]) by onyx.southwind.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA28029 for ; Thu, 28 May 1998 15:35:01 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <1.5.4.32.19980528203334.00693df0@Cybnetonline.com> X-Sender: Njack@Cybnetonline.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 28 May 1998 15:33:34 -0500 To: tmbg-list@tmbg.org From: "The Li'l Depressed Boy" Subject: TMBG: Hey a movie is on! Sender: owner-tmbg-list@tmbg.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: "The Li'l Depressed Boy" Hey praise Leffel, They Might Be Giants the movie is on. LDB! Leffel Does Behead... -- (this site cuts the amount of URL's I put in my Sig) My Web Page Index: http://www.cybnetonline.com/users/njack/ TMBG | D.U.M.B. NEWS | Mr. Gone Font -- Contemporary Cartoon Militia is (C) & TM 1998 S. Steven Struble and Kris W. M. Struble. The Li'l Depressed Boy, Phreeck, Spyder Hunt, and all related characters (C) & TM 1998 S. Steven Struble From owner-tmbg-list@tmbg.org Thu May 28 16:49:36 1998 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by ussenterprise.ufp.org (8.8.8/8.8.7) id QAA08751 for tmbg-list-outgoing; Thu, 28 May 1998 16:49:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from m14.boston.juno.com (m14.boston.juno.com [205.231.101.193]) by ussenterprise.ufp.org (8.8.8/8.8.7) with ESMTP id QAA08741 for ; Thu, 28 May 1998 16:49:32 -0400 (EDT) From: gray42@juno.com Received: (from gray42@juno.com) by m14.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id QzS17476; Thu, 28 May 1998 16:48:39 EDT To: Tmbgneat@aol.com Cc: tmbg-list@tmbg.org Date: Thu, 28 May 1998 16:13:59 -0400 Subject: Re: TMBG: Phil Hartman Message-ID: <19980528.163450.3222.0.gray42@juno.com> References: X-Mailer: Juno 1.49 X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 9-13,15-18 Sender: owner-tmbg-list@tmbg.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: gray42@juno.com To me, what makes Plil's death even sadder than Chris's, (aside from all those great characters and his great acting from some of the best years SNL ever had, my favorite being the guy running for Vice Pres. under Perot, you know "Who am I?" "Where am I going" *here I am, laughing through streams of tears as I remember the good ol' days of SNL, sniff*)is the fact that he was murdered, and Chris made the stupid mistake of overdosing. I mean, doesn't that say it all. I mean I highly doubt ol' Phil wanted this whole mess, he had what seemed to me a bright future ahead of him, a lomg life, while Chris should've known that if you take drugs your not going to last very long. So Sad :-^ ( Mysterio Gal (it helps to talk) " If there were no doorknobs nobody would be abel to open the doors. Everybody would die" --Claire (age 6) ICQ# 9585405 MST3K#88182 gray42@juno.com http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Coffeehouse/4871 _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] From owner-tmbg-list@tmbg.org Thu May 28 17:01:13 1998 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by ussenterprise.ufp.org (8.8.8/8.8.7) id RAA09444 for tmbg-list-outgoing; Thu, 28 May 1998 17:01:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from aludra.usc.edu (aludra.usc.edu [128.125.253.184]) by ussenterprise.ufp.org (8.8.8/8.8.7) with ESMTP id RAA09433 for ; Thu, 28 May 1998 17:01:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (ayaari@localhost) by aludra.usc.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8/usc) with SMTP id OAA19233 for ; Thu, 28 May 1998 14:01:00 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: aludra.usc.edu: ayaari owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 28 May 1998 14:00:59 -0700 (PDT) From: Alon Yaari To: tmbg-list@tmbg.com Subject: Non-TMBG: The curse of Saturday Night Live Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-tmbg-list@tmbg.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: Alon Yaari I've had this theory for a while: if you are a hit player on Saturday Night Live, you will have an untimely death. Someone else will have to do the math on this, but what is the percentage of untimely deaths to that of the general population? It seems that it's much much higher for the SNL players... Jim Belushi, Gilda Radner, Chris Farley, Buckwheat, etc... Yar From owner-tmbg-list@tmbg.org Thu May 28 17:04:52 1998 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by ussenterprise.ufp.org (8.8.8/8.8.7) id RAA09579 for tmbg-list-outgoing; Thu, 28 May 1998 17:04:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from bobo.oz.cc.utah.edu (jek1@bobo.oz.cc.utah.edu [155.99.2.4]) by ussenterprise.ufp.org (8.8.8/8.8.7) with ESMTP id RAA09570 for ; Thu, 28 May 1998 17:04:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (jek1@localhost) by bobo.oz.cc.utah.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id PAA10961 for ; Thu, 28 May 1998 15:02:37 -0600 (MDT) Date: Thu, 28 May 1998 15:02:36 -0600 (MDT) From: J Kuemmerle X-Sender: jek1@bobo To: The TMBG Mailing List Subject: Re: Non-TMBG: The curse of Saturday Night Live In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-tmbg-list@tmbg.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: J Kuemmerle On Thu, 28 May 1998, Alon Yaari wrote: > I've had this theory for a while: if you are a hit player on Saturday > Night Live, you will have an untimely death. Someone else will have to do > the math on this, but what is the percentage of untimely deaths to that > of the general population? It seems that it's much much higher for the SNL > players... Jim... john. > ...Belushi, Gilda Radner, Chris Farley, Buckwheat,... eddie murphy!? lots of pressure, lots of fame. with belushi and farley, that reinforced an already-established pattern of substance abuse. gilda radner succumbed to cancer, if i remember correctly. --jim kuemmerle, who will miss phil hartman very very much but who has still not gotten over the loss of gilda... j.kuemmerle@m.cc.utah.edu From owner-tmbg-list@tmbg.org Thu May 28 17:45:15 1998 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by ussenterprise.ufp.org (8.8.8/8.8.7) id RAA11613 for tmbg-list-outgoing; Thu, 28 May 1998 17:45:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from imo12.mx.aol.com (imo12.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.34]) by ussenterprise.ufp.org (8.8.8/8.8.7) with ESMTP id RAA11604 for ; Thu, 28 May 1998 17:45:12 -0400 (EDT) From: BrthrJuan@aol.com Received: from BrthrJuan@aol.com by imo12.mx.aol.com (IMOv14_b1.1) id IQKFa10873 for ; Thu, 28 May 1998 17:44:30 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <39361587.356ddac0@aol.com> Date: Thu, 28 May 1998 17:44:30 EDT To: tmbg-list@tmbg.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: TMBG: Phil Hartman Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 170 Sender: owner-tmbg-list@tmbg.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: BrthrJuan@aol.com In a message dated 5/28/98 4:35:16 PM Eastern Daylight Time, DrWormX@aol.com writes: > I am also > ashamed of the few people that said how he would be missed so much more than > Chris Farley; this statement really pissed me off. let it piss you off. chris farley had no acting talent at all. name one thing that he has done when he wasn;t screaming his head of and then falling down? i don;t think you can come up with anything, because he even did it in the comeheads movie. the fact that he overdosed shows me that not only does he have no talent, he was stupid. phile hartman was one of the nicest people out there, chosing to live in a smaller town and getting to know a lot of the people there, than living in the "high society." he has a lot of acting range, and has shown a lot of it off in the numerous things he has done. what pisses me off is the fact that you try to put them into the same acting category. the next thing you will say is that hanson has as much musical talent and song writing ability as the beatles. aaron From owner-tmbg-list@tmbg.org Thu May 28 17:55:25 1998 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by ussenterprise.ufp.org (8.8.8/8.8.7) id RAA12166 for tmbg-list-outgoing; Thu, 28 May 1998 17:55:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from rma.edu (rma.edu [207.0.141.1]) by ussenterprise.ufp.org (8.8.8/8.8.7) with ESMTP id RAA12154 for ; Thu, 28 May 1998 17:55:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from cpdog.rma.edu ([207.48.171.58]) by rma.edu with SMTP (IPAD 2.03) id 2278900 ; Thu, 28 May 1998 18:00:25 -0500 From: "Tim Clark" To: "That Darn List" Subject: Re: TMBG: Phil Hartman Date: Thu, 28 May 1998 17:46:00 -0400 Message-ID: <01bd8a82$012ab6c0$3aab30cf@cpdog.rma.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 Sender: owner-tmbg-list@tmbg.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: "Tim Clark" Is Phil Hartman one of the John's illigitimate brothers? Must be something like that. Or if not, then WHY ARE WE TALKING ABOUT HIM ON THE TMBG MAILING LIST?!?!?!?!?!??!?!?!? From owner-tmbg-list@tmbg.org Thu May 28 18:05:14 1998 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by ussenterprise.ufp.org (8.8.8/8.8.7) id SAA12777 for tmbg-list-outgoing; Thu, 28 May 1998 18:05:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from jason01.u.washington.edu (root@jason01.u.washington.edu [140.142.70.24]) by ussenterprise.ufp.org (8.8.8/8.8.7) with ESMTP id SAA12765 for ; Thu, 28 May 1998 18:05:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from dante19.u.washington.edu (ringostr@dante19.u.washington.edu [140.142.15.69]) by jason01.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id PAA41706; Thu, 28 May 1998 15:05:02 -0700 Received: from localhost (ringostr@localhost) by dante19.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id PAA37100; Thu, 28 May 1998 15:05:01 -0700 Date: Thu, 28 May 1998 15:05:01 -0700 (PDT) From: "J. Brown" To: BrthrJuan@aol.com cc: tmbg-list@tmbg.org Subject: Re: TMBG: Phil Hartman In-Reply-To: <39361587.356ddac0@aol.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-tmbg-list@tmbg.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: "J. Brown" On Thu, 28 May 1998 BrthrJuan@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 5/28/98 4:35:16 PM Eastern Daylight Time, DrWormX@aol.com > writes: > > > I am also > > ashamed of the few people that said how he would be missed so much more > than > > Chris Farley; this statement really pissed me off. > > let it piss you off. chris farley had no acting talent at all. name one > thing that he has done when he wasn;t screaming his head of and then falling > down? i don;t think you can come up with anything, because he even did it in > the comeheads movie. the fact that he overdosed shows me that not only does > he have no talent, he was stupid. phile hartman was one of the nicest people > out there, chosing to live in a smaller town and getting to know a lot of the > people there, than living in the "high society." he has a lot of acting > range, and has shown a lot of it off in the numerous things he has done. > > what pisses me off is the fact that you try to put them into the same acting > category. the next thing you will say is that hanson has as much musical > talent and song writing ability as the beatles. We'll for teenagers they do have more talent that the Beatles as teenagers! Judge Hanson in 7 years or so. For a bunch of kids theyt are emmensely talented i look forward to seeing how they grow- although they could not get anny better and be as mediocre as they are nopw for the next 3o years From owner-tmbg-list@tmbg.org Thu May 28 18:06:06 1998 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by ussenterprise.ufp.org (8.8.8/8.8.7) id SAA13124 for tmbg-list-outgoing; Thu, 28 May 1998 18:06:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from f03n03.cac.psu.edu (f03n03-fddi.cac.psu.edu [146.186.157.10]) by ussenterprise.ufp.org (8.8.8/8.8.7) with ESMTP id SAA13112 for ; Thu, 28 May 1998 18:06:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from bluedog.cac.psu.edu (access-isdn1-7.gv.psu.edu [146.186.229.9]) by f03n03.cac.psu.edu (8.8.7/8.6.12) with SMTP id RAA144388 for ; Thu, 28 May 1998 17:40:25 -0400 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19980528173817.007bee40@email.psu.edu> X-Sender: jls5@email.psu.edu (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Thu, 28 May 1998 17:38:17 -0400 To: tmbg-list@tmbg.org (They Might Be the List) From: "J. L. Moquin" Subject: NON-TMBG: Re: Phil Hartman In-Reply-To: <7485c82.356dc9c5@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-tmbg-list@tmbg.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: "J. L. Moquin" DrWormX@aol.com wrote: >okay, the truth about phil is that his wife brin commited a homoside/suicide, >killing phil, and herself...I am truly saddened by the loss. I am also >ashamed of the few people that said how he would be missed so much more than >Chris Farley; this statement really pissed me off. > >Matt- depressed and pissed off >The few surviving samurai surveyed the battle field, they count the arms, the >legs, and heads, and then divide by five >http://members.aol.com/DrWormX Ok, Matt also sent me a private e-mail telling me he felt I was outta line for saying "I'm gonna miss him a LOT more than Chris Farley". I wanted to publicly post what I wrote, just so no one else is lurking and hating me.... "I'm sorry, I didn't mean to imply that I hated Chris Farley, or that I'm gladder CF is dead than PH. It was a statement of fact. I'm still seeing tributes to Chris Farley, people talking about how wonderful he was, how sad, he was so young and talented, etc. My point was only that Phil Hartman was a LOT more visible -- The Simpsons, NewsRadio, several series of commercials, movies... His departure will leave a bigger hole, IMHO. I didn't mean to offend you. :\" For the record, I thought Phil Hartman was funnier than Chris Farley. His style of humor more closely matched my own. I also think Linnell is sexier than Flansburgh, and nectarines are tastier than plums. No one deserves to die young, any death diminishes us all (who said that, originally?), and we can't afford to lose funny people in particular. I hope that, if there is an afterlife, Chris and Phil are hanging out and doing standup. They shall both be missed, but different people will miss them in different amounts. I'm done now. Later, all... -jennifer, mommy to alice the bean, 8/15/97 http://www.emprl.psu.edu/~anth/ mailto:jls5@psu.edu "Some women have reported problems using Reality." -- Instructions for the female condom From owner-tmbg-list@tmbg.org Thu May 28 18:09:38 1998 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by ussenterprise.ufp.org (8.8.8/8.8.7) id SAA13349 for tmbg-list-outgoing; Thu, 28 May 1998 18:09:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from jason01.u.washington.edu (root@jason01.u.washington.edu [140.142.70.24]) by ussenterprise.ufp.org (8.8.8/8.8.7) with ESMTP id SAA13339 for ; Thu, 28 May 1998 18:09:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from dante19.u.washington.edu (ringostr@dante19.u.washington.edu [140.142.15.69]) by jason01.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id PAA55028; Thu, 28 May 1998 15:09:03 -0700 Received: from localhost (ringostr@localhost) by dante19.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id PAA44532; Thu, 28 May 1998 15:09:02 -0700 Date: Thu, 28 May 1998 15:09:02 -0700 (PDT) From: "J. Brown" To: Tim Clark cc: That Darn List Subject: Re: TMBG: Phil Hartman In-Reply-To: <01bd8a82$012ab6c0$3aab30cf@cpdog.rma.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-tmbg-list@tmbg.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: "J. Brown" On Thu, 28 May 1998, Tim Clark wrote: > Is Phil Hartman one of the John's illigitimate brothers? Must be something > like that. Or if not, then WHY ARE WE TALKING ABOUT HIM ON THE TMBG MAILING > LIST?!?!?!?!?!??!?!?!? Tim, I've only been on this list for a week but it seems to be one of those lists where the list is more of a community of TMBG fans talking about whatever Including TMBG!, than a list strangers talk about TMBG and only TMBG. And if you want to see more TMBG discussion on this list then Poist about TMBG!! thats the only was to get what you want, bniotching won't get you anywhere. jason From owner-tmbg-list@tmbg.org Thu May 28 19:03:44 1998 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by ussenterprise.ufp.org (8.8.8/8.8.7) id TAA15936 for tmbg-list-outgoing; Thu, 28 May 1998 19:03:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pluto.valpo.edu (news.valpo.edu [152.228.34.13]) by ussenterprise.ufp.org (8.8.8/8.8.7) with ESMTP id TAA15927 for ; Thu, 28 May 1998 19:03:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from athena.valpo.edu ([152.228.34.202]) by pluto.valpo.edu (Netscape Messaging Server 3.0) with ESMTP id AAA17614 for ; Thu, 28 May 1998 18:03:29 -0500 Received: from ATHENA/SMTPQ by athena.valpo.edu (Mercury 1.21); 28 May 98 18:01:48 CST Received: from SMTPQ by ATHENA (Mercury 1.21); 28 May 98 18:01:19 CST From: To: tmbg-list@tmbg.org Date: Thu, 28 May 1998 18:02:54 CST Subject: Re: TMBG: Phil Hartman X-mailer: Pegasus Mail/Mac (v2.2.1) Message-ID: <56A1A51124B@athena.valpo.edu> Sender: owner-tmbg-list@tmbg.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: re: phil vs. chris, drop it. if anything drop it out of respect for the dead. they were both great actors, and it sucks that they're dead, but please stop comparing them. i admit phil was probably more talented, but that doesn't mean there wasn't a place for farley's humor. ok, i'm having trouble naming a skit or film which chris did that wasn't him shouting his head off and then running through a wall, but i can't think of anyone who did this better than farley, other than belushi. oh, and for those of you who are new to the list, here's how it works: a bunch of people post stuff. then somebody posts a non tmbg email. no big deal. someone else posts another non tmbg email, and all the sudden everyone on the list replies to it. then everyone bitches about how the list is supposed to be for tmbg content only, and instead of a thread starting about phil hartman, there's a thread about whether or not people should be able to post nontmbg stuff. then it either dies out or leo, the list administrator, starts monitoring the list. then tmbg or monopuff releases a new album or goes on tour or changes their webpage, and the list is back to normal, ready for another cycle of the same thing. 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Email: jskrenes@athena.valpo.edu Snail: or p356jskrenes@exodus.valpo.edu Wehrenberg Hall Airwaves: Sunday nights, 12-2am 95.1, WVUR Valparaiso, IN 46383 From owner-tmbg-list@tmbg.org Thu May 28 19:40:06 1998 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by ussenterprise.ufp.org (8.8.8/8.8.7) id TAA18004 for tmbg-list-outgoing; Thu, 28 May 1998 19:40:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from bobo.oz.cc.utah.edu (jek1@bobo.oz.cc.utah.edu [155.99.2.4]) by ussenterprise.ufp.org (8.8.8/8.8.7) with ESMTP id TAA17963 for ; Thu, 28 May 1998 19:40:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (jek1@localhost) by bobo.oz.cc.utah.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id RAA20258 for ; Thu, 28 May 1998 17:37:58 -0600 (MDT) Date: Thu, 28 May 1998 17:37:57 -0600 (MDT) From: J Kuemmerle X-Sender: jek1@bobo To: The TMBG Mailing List Subject: TMBG: Phil Hartman In-Reply-To: <01bd8a82$012ab6c0$3aab30cf@cpdog.rma.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-tmbg-list@tmbg.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: J Kuemmerle On Thu, 28 May 1998, Tim Clark wrote: > Is Phil Hartman one of the John's illigitimate brothers? Must be something > like that. Or if not, then WHY ARE WE TALKING ABOUT HIM ON THE TMBG MAILING > LIST?!?!?!?!?!??!?!?!? (1) because tmbg fans tend to have much much much more in common than just a passionate love for the music of They. such things tend to include some combination of the following: saturday night live, conan o'brien, the simpsons, moxy fruvous, liberal politics, the muppets, kids in the hall, ben folds, barenaked ladies, swing dancing, extremely broad taste in music and comedy, mono puff, and the list goes on and on. a love for tmbg generally tends to go along with a certain worldview. i don't know how long you've been on the list, but this mailing list has a tendency (far more so than other mailing lists and newsgroups that i've encountered) to be more of an extended, text-based family. (2) the untimely and tragic demise of phil hartman is going to leave a hole in a lot of lives. many people on this list included. (3) i've heard kvetching about NON-TMBG posts before, (and usually found such kvetching to be short-sighted,) but come on. a man was just murdered. a very decent, talented man who seems to have led a very good life free from many of the problems that affect other famous people. show a little respect for the dead. now is not the time. --jim kuemmerle j.kuemmerle@m.cc.utah.edu http://www.geocities.com/soho/gallery/4668/ From owner-tmbg-list@tmbg.org Thu May 28 19:50:31 1998 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by ussenterprise.ufp.org (8.8.8/8.8.7) id TAA18495 for tmbg-list-outgoing; Thu, 28 May 1998 19:50:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from x18.boston.juno.com (x18.boston.juno.com [205.231.101.29]) by ussenterprise.ufp.org (8.8.8/8.8.7) with ESMTP id TAA18486 for ; Thu, 28 May 1998 19:50:27 -0400 (EDT) From: tmbgirl@juno.com Received: (from tmbgirl@juno.com) by x18.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id TuA06426; Thu, 28 May 1998 19:49:42 EDT To: tmbg-list@tmbg.org Date: Thu, 28 May 1998 17:50:11 -0600 Subject: Re: TMBG: Chris Farley, Hanson Message-ID: <19980528.175014.3182.0.TMBgirl@juno.com> References: <7485c82.356dc9c5@aol.com> X-Mailer: Juno 1.49 X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 0-10,19-23,26,31-36,40,46,49-54,56-59 Sender: owner-tmbg-list@tmbg.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: tmbgirl@juno.com >loss. I am >also >ashamed of the few people that said how he would be missed so much >more than >Chris Farley; this statement really pissed me off. thank you. I'm so very glad someone said this. >and Chris made the stupid mistake of overdosing. > I mean, doesn't that say it all geez, before i start ranting i must ask myself if people are just ignorant or oblivious... i could get into an entire conversation about being an alcoholic and how YOU CAN'T HELP IT but i'll stop there. I have so little respect for people that think that alcoholic's can control their behavior... i'm disapointed in the integrity of the list all of the sudden. Contrary to the rest of you (i spose), i have respect for Chris farley for living as long as he did with all his problems... it's more than a lot of my friends managed to do and they probably had half of chris' problems. > the fact that he overdosed shows me that not only does >he have no talent, he was stupid. i'm begining to feel... almost... sorry for you people. i don't know what it is but i can't believe half the crap that's being posted to this list. i'm finding you to be rather uninformed (stupid) at this point... or else very naive. until you are yourself an alcoholic or have spent large amounts of time with one (and even so i don't think it's the same) you could never understand. But your comments strike me as naive in that you don't even try to understand. > the next thing you will say is that hanson has as >much musical talent and song writing ability >as the beatles. (my dear god, i'm standing up for hanson)... i would just like to say to the listie that posted this comment and the one above, i find you to be extremely shallow, unintelligent, and very naive. (now that i'm making enemies)... If you go triple platinum with a single album you gotta have some sort of talent... i don't care what you think but teeny-bopper looks can't ride that far. The same thing with chris farley... he did have talent, so what if the majority of the population believes it was limited to getting extremely red faced and screaming like a maniac... he did it better than i'm sure you ever could do. just like hanson can probably sing a hell of a lot better than you ever could. to say that someone has NO talent at all is just embarrasing yourself... you have some issues... >And if you want to see more TMBG discussion on this >list then Poist about TMBG!! thats the only was to get >what you want, bniotching won't get you anywhere. kid, you say you've been on the list a week? ah there's hope for the future.. take it easy, JOrdaN http://www2.netcom.com/~arnot/joda/bootlegs.html _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] From owner-tmbg-list@tmbg.org Thu May 28 19:51:09 1998 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by ussenterprise.ufp.org (8.8.8/8.8.7) id TAA18569 for tmbg-list-outgoing; Thu, 28 May 1998 19:51:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from bobo.oz.cc.utah.edu (jek1@bobo.oz.cc.utah.edu [155.99.2.4]) by ussenterprise.ufp.org (8.8.8/8.8.7) with ESMTP id TAA18558 for ; Thu, 28 May 1998 19:51:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (jek1@localhost) by bobo.oz.cc.utah.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id RAA20789 for ; Thu, 28 May 1998 17:48:56 -0600 (MDT) Date: Thu, 28 May 1998 17:48:56 -0600 (MDT) From: J Kuemmerle X-Sender: jek1@bobo To: The TMBG Mailing List Subject: Re: NON-TMBG: Re: Phil Hartman In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.19980528173817.007bee40@email.psu.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-tmbg-list@tmbg.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: J Kuemmerle On Thu, 28 May 1998, J. L. Moquin wrote: > No one deserves to die young, any death diminishes us all (who said > that, originally?), and we can't afford to lose funny people in > particular. john donne. ***** Who casts not up his eye to the sun when it rises? but who takes off his eye from a comet when that breaks out? Who bends not his ear to any bell which upon any occasion rings? but who can remove it from that bell which is passing a piece of himself out of this world? No man is an island, entire of itself; every man is a piece of the continent, a part of the main. If a clod be washed away by the sea, Europe is the less, as well as if a promontory were, as well as if a manor of thy friend's or of thine own were: any man's death diminishes me, because I am involved in mankind, and therefore never send to know for whom the bell tolls; it tolls for thee. -- from "Devotions upon Emergent Occasions", 1623. ***** > I hope that, if there is an afterlife, Chris and Phil are hanging out > and doing standup. well said, jennifer. --jim kuemmerle j.kuemmerle@m.cc.utah.edu http://www.geocities.com/soho/gallery/4668/ From owner-tmbg-list@tmbg.org Thu May 28 19:56:45 1998 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by ussenterprise.ufp.org (8.8.8/8.8.7) id TAA18992 for tmbg-list-outgoing; Thu, 28 May 1998 19:56:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from imo11.mx.aol.com (imo11.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.33]) by ussenterprise.ufp.org (8.8.8/8.8.7) with ESMTP id TAA18981 for ; Thu, 28 May 1998 19:56:37 -0400 (EDT) From: Monotreme3@aol.com Received: from Monotreme3@aol.com by imo11.mx.aol.com (IMOv14_b1.1) id IICDa15555 for ; Thu, 28 May 1998 19:55:23 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <728d00d7.356df971@aol.com> Date: Thu, 28 May 1998 19:55:23 EDT To: tmbg-list@tmbg.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: NON-TMBG: Phil Hartman Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 120 Sender: owner-tmbg-list@tmbg.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: Monotreme3@aol.com In a message dated 5/28/98 6:09:14 PM Eastern Daylight Time, BrthrJuan writes: > ok, let me start this off by saying...i will think whatever the fuck i want > to. personally pakistan and india have nothing to do with me so oh well. > this country is so fucked up trying to solve everyone elses problems, they > forget about the ones here. dr. worm or whatever his name was said that he > is pissed at me for saying that chris farley has no talent, and it is true. > he put them into the same category, not me. and i chose to show no compasion > to those who one, never did anything to make me want to like them, and two, > overdosed on highballs. It's sad life you live, isn't it? That's all I'm going to say. Originally I was going to flame you or something stupid like that, but I just finished The Catcher in the Rye and I think I don't want to go around dwelling on bad things right now. Anyway, I hope you get better. -Your cousin called Monotreme From owner-tmbg-list@tmbg.org Thu May 28 20:30:58 1998 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by ussenterprise.ufp.org (8.8.8/8.8.7) id UAA20622 for tmbg-list-outgoing; Thu, 28 May 1998 20:30:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pluto.valpo.edu (news.valpo.edu [152.228.34.13]) by ussenterprise.ufp.org (8.8.8/8.8.7) with ESMTP id UAA20613 for ; Thu, 28 May 1998 20:30:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from athena.valpo.edu ([152.228.34.202]) by pluto.valpo.edu (Netscape Messaging Server 3.0) with ESMTP id AAA18291 for ; Thu, 28 May 1998 19:30:54 -0500 Received: from ATHENA/SMTPQ by athena.valpo.edu (Mercury 1.21); 28 May 98 19:29:12 CST Received: from SMTPQ by ATHENA (Mercury 1.21); 28 May 98 19:28:57 CST From: To: tmbg-list@tmbg.org Date: Thu, 28 May 1998 19:32:34 CST Subject: Re: NON-TMBG: Phil Hartman X-mailer: Pegasus Mail/Mac (v2.2.1) Message-ID: <56B90446022@athena.valpo.edu> Sender: owner-tmbg-list@tmbg.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: In a message dated 5/28/98 6:09:14 PM Eastern Daylight Time, BrthrJuan writes: > ok, let me start this off by saying...i will think whatever the fuck i want > to. personally pakistan and india have nothing to do with me so oh well. > this country is so fucked up trying to solve everyone elses problems, they > forget about the ones here. dr. worm or whatever his name was said that he > is pissed at me for saying that chris farley has no talent, and it is true. > he put them into the same category, not me. and i chose to show no compasion > to those who one, never did anything to make me want to like them, and two, > overdosed on highballs. too bad i can't write to the original poster of this message, but since the address of his is lost, i'll just post it here. pakistan and india have nothing do do with you? ok, news flash: india just got nukes. pakistan won't wait long to get their hands on their own nukes. i'm sure that when the mushroom cloud from an indian atomic bomb is blooming in your backyard, in the brief time you have left before you are fried, you'll rethink your statement on the extent of india's impact on you. or wait until a pakistanian terrorist threatens to detonate a nuke unless america gives him half of its GNP, or all of its fresh water. how about if pakistan and india get into a nuclear war and the blowout creates a nuclear winter that covers half the planet? i don't want to sound like some doomsday prophet, but this stuff could happen. and if an atomic bomb is going to go off, i'll bet it's going to come from a developing country, and not the US. and if one bomb is dropped, count on at least two more being dropped. well, whoever wrote that letter, enjoy your right to be stupid as long as it lasts. jer ps--i have NO clue what any of this has to do with either phil hartman or tmbg. [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] "Instead of creating new weapons of destruction, we ought to get some use out of the ones we already have." Deep Thoughts [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Experience the many media of Jeremy Skrenes! Email: jskrenes@athena.valpo.edu Snail: or p356jskrenes@exodus.valpo.edu Wehrenberg Hall Airwaves: Sunday nights, 12-2am 95.1, WVUR Valparaiso, IN 46383 From owner-tmbg-list@tmbg.org Thu May 28 21:05:21 1998 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by ussenterprise.ufp.org (8.8.8/8.8.7) id VAA22072 for tmbg-list-outgoing; Thu, 28 May 1998 21:05:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail-hub1.weeg.uiowa.edu (mail-hub1.weeg.uiowa.edu [128.255.56.31]) by ussenterprise.ufp.org (8.8.8/8.8.7) with ESMTP id VAA22063 for ; Thu, 28 May 1998 21:05:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from yellow.weeg.uiowa.edu (43098@yellow.weeg.uiowa.edu [128.255.56.32]) by mail-hub1.weeg.uiowa.edu (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA21626; Thu, 28 May 1998 20:05:17 -0500 Received: from localhost by yellow.weeg.uiowa.edu (8.8.8/client-1.3) id UAA67454; Thu, 28 May 1998 20:05:17 -0500 Date: Thu, 28 May 1998 20:05:16 -0500 (CDT) From: "Christopher M. Stangl" X-Sender: cstangl@yellow.weeg.uiowa.edu To: BrthrJuan@aol.com cc: tmbg-list@tmbg.org Subject: Re: TMBG: Phil Hartman In-Reply-To: <39359b2e.356dbcc3@aol.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-tmbg-list@tmbg.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: "Christopher M. Stangl" On Thu, 28 May 1998 BrthrJuan@aol.com wrote: > all offense intended, chris farley was not even 1/1,000,000 of the talent that > phil hartman was. all chris can do is yell and get hit with things.... > > phil hartman actually had talent, and he will truely be missed. Chris Farley will truly be missed too. Not necessarily because he had legions of die-hard fans, or because comic genius brimmed over his edges... But because by all accounts he was a sweet guy, wonderful and cooperative to work with, a hard worker, unpretentious, and unegotistical. He loved his friends, and appreciated his fans and his fame and money. -Chris Stangl From owner-tmbg-list@tmbg.org Thu May 28 21:20:38 1998 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by ussenterprise.ufp.org (8.8.8/8.8.7) id VAA23050 for tmbg-list-outgoing; Thu, 28 May 1998 21:20:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from cmu1.acs.cmu.edu (CMU1.ACS.CMU.EDU [128.2.35.186]) by ussenterprise.ufp.org (8.8.8/8.8.7) with ESMTP id VAA23041 for ; Thu, 28 May 1998 21:20:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from unix8.andrew.cmu.edu (UNIX8.ANDREW.CMU.EDU [128.2.35.73]) by cmu1.acs.cmu.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id VAA06128 for ; Thu, 28 May 1998 21:20:33 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 28 May 1998 21:20:32 -0400 (EDT) From: Jish X-Sender: jish@unix8.andrew.cmu.edu To: tmbg-list@tmbg.org Subject: TMBG: Phil Hartman Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-tmbg-list@tmbg.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: Jish Um...I really didn't want to post on this subject, but nearly everybody is talking about how funny or talented he was and how much he will be missed for these reasons. I mean...yea...I will miss his characters I guess but lets get focused here. The tragedy is that there are two young children without parents whose lives are going to be fucked up by this. In the big picture the public's loss is nothing compared to their loss Josh From owner-tmbg-list@tmbg.org Thu May 28 21:21:45 1998 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by ussenterprise.ufp.org (8.8.8/8.8.7) id VAA23138 for tmbg-list-outgoing; Thu, 28 May 1998 21:21:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from imo24.mx.aol.com (imo24.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.68]) by ussenterprise.ufp.org (8.8.8/8.8.7) with ESMTP id VAA23121 for ; Thu, 28 May 1998 21:21:25 -0400 (EDT) From: DrWormX@aol.com Received: from DrWormX@aol.com by imo24.mx.aol.com (IMOv14_b1.1) id IXJBa22587 for ; Thu, 28 May 1998 21:19:25 +2000 (EDT) Message-ID: <44739ad8.356e0d1f@aol.com> Date: Thu, 28 May 1998 21:19:25 EDT To: tmbg-list@tmbg.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: Non-TMBG: The curse of Saturday Night Live Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 120 Sender: owner-tmbg-list@tmbg.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: DrWormX@aol.com what I also noticed was that when farley and hartman were working together on SNL, Farley was the first introducedby Don Pardo in the credits, and Hartman was the second, which sort of freaks me out a little. Matt- now just depressed, and a little scared for mike myers's life (#3) The few surviving samurai surveyed the battle field, they count the arms, the legs, and heads, and then divide by five http://members.aol.com/DrWormX From owner-tmbg-list@tmbg.org Thu May 28 21:22:39 1998 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by ussenterprise.ufp.org (8.8.8/8.8.7) id VAA23229 for tmbg-list-outgoing; Thu, 28 May 1998 21:22:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from m14.boston.juno.com (m14.boston.juno.com [205.231.101.193]) by ussenterprise.ufp.org (8.8.8/8.8.7) with ESMTP id VAA23220 for ; Thu, 28 May 1998 21:22:36 -0400 (EDT) From: gray42@juno.com Received: (from gray42@juno.com) by m14.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id VYS17476; Thu, 28 May 1998 21:19:05 EDT To: tmbgirl@juno.com Cc: tmbg-list@tmbg.org Date: Thu, 28 May 1998 21:03:12 -0400 Subject: Re: TMBG: Chris Farley, Hanson Message-ID: <19980528.210507.6382.0.gray42@juno.com> References: <7485c82.356dc9c5@aol.com> <19980528.175014.3182.0.TMBgirl@juno.com> X-Mailer: Juno 1.49 X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 0-14,28-30,32-35 Sender: owner-tmbg-list@tmbg.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: gray42@juno.com >>and Chris made the stupid mistake of overdosing. >> I mean, doesn't that say it all > >geez, before i start ranting i must ask myself if people are just >ignorant or oblivious... i could get into an entire conversation >about being an alcoholic and how YOU CAN'T HELP IT but i'll stop >there. I have so little respect for people that think that >alcoholic's can control their behavior... i'm disapointed in the >integrity of the list all of the sudden. Contrary to the rest of you >(i spose), i have respect for Chris farley for living as long as he >did with all his problems... it's more than a lot of my friends >managed to do and they probably had half of chris' problems. > Sorry, guess I sounded a little mean there, Chris Farley was a great actor, there are so many of his skits that I treasure and lock up tight in my memory banks. But I see a death from murder as being sadder than a death from an overdose. I mean Phil probably had 30-50 years ahead of him, while Farley, had he survived the particular drug episode, probably would not have been very healthy, ANYONE who does ALOT of drugs, probably won't LIVE very long. That doesn't mean I have less respect for the guy. However I have hardly any respect for my father who is an alcoholic, I've met nice alcoholics, silly alcoholics, and mean alcoholics. I like Farley, he was nice and silly. My dad on the other hand is conceited and mean (but I must admit I still love the guy, otherwise I'd be lyeing) but I'm sick of people telling me to feel sorry for my father, it was his own damn fault. Hopefully I made myself clear this time, and didn't cause any more trouble...Ho hum Mysterio Gal (fellow Subgenius & Happy Mutant) " If there were no doorknobs nobody would be abel to open the doors. Everybody would die" --Claire (age 6) ICQ# 9585405 MST3K#88182 gray42@juno.com http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Coffeehouse/4871 From owner-tmbg-list@tmbg.org Thu May 28 21:26:20 1998 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by ussenterprise.ufp.org (8.8.8/8.8.7) id VAA23372 for tmbg-list-outgoing; Thu, 28 May 1998 21:26:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from imo13.mx.aol.com (imo13.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.35]) by ussenterprise.ufp.org (8.8.8/8.8.7) with ESMTP id VAA23355 for ; Thu, 28 May 1998 21:25:51 -0400 (EDT) From: DrWormX@aol.com Received: from DrWormX@aol.com by imo13.mx.aol.com (IMOv14_b1.1) id IHWMa08564 for ; Thu, 28 May 1998 21:18:42 +2000 (EDT) Message-ID: <8d373d6c.356e0cf3@aol.com> Date: Thu, 28 May 1998 21:18:42 EDT To: tmbg-list@tmbg.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: Non-TMBG: The curse of Saturday Night Live Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 120 Sender: owner-tmbg-list@tmbg.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: DrWormX@aol.com what I also noticed was that when farley and hartman were working together on SNL, Farley was the first introducedby Don Pardo in the credits, and Hartman was the second, which sort of freaks me out a little. Matt- now just depressed, and a little scared for mike myers's life (#3) The few surviving samurai surveyed the battle field, they count the arms, the legs, and heads, and then divide by five http://members.aol.com/DrWormX From owner-tmbg-list@tmbg.org Thu May 28 21:48:55 1998 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by ussenterprise.ufp.org (8.8.8/8.8.7) id VAA24776 for tmbg-list-outgoing; Thu, 28 May 1998 21:48:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from imo22.mx.aol.com (imo22.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.66]) by ussenterprise.ufp.org (8.8.8/8.8.7) with ESMTP id VAA24767 for ; Thu, 28 May 1998 21:48:52 -0400 (EDT) From: DrWormX@aol.com Received: from DrWormX@aol.com by imo22.mx.aol.com (IMOv14_b1.1) id IEGGa22282 for ; Thu, 28 May 1998 21:48:17 +2000 (EDT) Message-ID: <13d69fba.356e13e2@aol.com> Date: Thu, 28 May 1998 21:48:17 EDT To: tmbg-list@tmbg.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: An excellent suggestion+Semi-TMBG:Baseball Tonight Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 120 Sender: owner-tmbg-list@tmbg.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: DrWormX@aol.com First my Excellent suggestion: Is it possible to get certain persons banished forever from the list? I ask this because that certain list-member to remain nameless who was arguing with me like a FOOL is one of the most ignorant people that I have EVER SEEN IN MY LIFE, and I think that he/she should be expelled from this list. We could even do it democratically, and have a vote... Now for the TMBG content: Did anyone ever notice on Baseball Tonight (on ESPN) that one of the musics that they play sounds strikingly like Meet James Ensor? Matt- the most irritated he's EVER BEEN The few surviving samurai surveyed the battle field, they count the arms, the legs, and heads, and then divide by five http://members.aol.com/DrWormX From owner-tmbg-list@tmbg.org Thu May 28 22:04:22 1998 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by ussenterprise.ufp.org (8.8.8/8.8.7) id WAA25426 for tmbg-list-outgoing; Thu, 28 May 1998 22:04:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from f03n03.cac.psu.edu (f03n03-fddi.cac.psu.edu [146.186.157.10]) by ussenterprise.ufp.org (8.8.8/8.8.7) with ESMTP id WAA25417 for ; Thu, 28 May 1998 22:04:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from bluedog.cac.psu.edu (access-isdn1-7.gv.psu.edu [146.186.229.9]) by f03n03.cac.psu.edu (8.8.7/8.6.12) with SMTP id VAA137574 for ; Thu, 28 May 1998 21:37:27 -0400 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19980528213517.007da220@email.psu.edu> X-Sender: jls5@email.psu.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Thu, 28 May 1998 21:35:17 -0400 To: tmbg-list@tmbg.org (They Might Be the List) From: "J. L. Moquin" Subject: Non-TMBG: Re: Phil Hartman In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-tmbg-list@tmbg.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: "J. L. Moquin" Jish wrote: >Um...I really didn't want to post on this subject, but nearly everybody is >talking about how funny or talented he was and how much he will be missed >for these reasons. I mean...yea...I will miss his characters I guess but >lets get focused here. The tragedy is that there are two young children >without parents whose lives are going to be fucked up by this. In the big >picture the public's loss is nothing compared to their loss > >Josh This is horribly true... When I first heard he was dead, and posted my little post that started all this crap (and for that I apologize, BTW), I didn't know any of the details surrounding his death. Now that I do, I'm much more upset, and hurting for his children. As a mother myself, I can't even imagine such a situation. :( I heard they were 6 and 9, were they boys? girls? one of each? Just curious... -jennifer, mommy to alice the bean, 8/15/97 http://www.emprl.psu.edu/~anth/ mailto:jls5@psu.edu "Some women have reported problems using Reality." -- Instructions for the female condom From owner-tmbg-list@tmbg.org Thu May 28 22:05:09 1998 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by ussenterprise.ufp.org (8.8.8/8.8.7) id WAA25517 for tmbg-list-outgoing; Thu, 28 May 1998 22:05:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail4.visi.net (geneva.visi.net [206.246.194.4]) by ussenterprise.ufp.org (8.8.8/8.8.7) with ESMTP id WAA25507 for ; Thu, 28 May 1998 22:05:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from idiotnot.visi.net (ppp-2-12.nn.visi.net [206.246.196.76]) by mail4.visi.net (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id WAA25260; Thu, 28 May 1998 22:05:37 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <002401bd8aa6$6fd6e340$4cc4f6ce@idiotnot.visi.net> From: "S. Bergeron" To: "J. Brown" Cc: "TMBG Fans Anonymous" Subject: NON-TMBG: Hanson (was: Re: TMBG: Phil Hartman) Date: Thu, 28 May 1998 22:06:45 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-tmbg-list@tmbg.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: "S. Bergeron" -----Original Message----- From: J. Brown To: BrthrJuan@aol.com Cc: tmbg-list@tmbg.org Date: Thursday, May 28, 1998 6:05 PM Subject: Re: TMBG: Phil Hartman :On Thu, 28 May 1998 BrthrJuan@aol.com wrote: : :> In a message dated 5/28/98 4:35:16 PM Eastern Daylight Time, DrWormX@aol.com :> writes: :> :> > I am also :> > ashamed of the few people that said how he would be missed so much more :> than :> > Chris Farley; this statement really pissed me off. :> :> let it piss you off. chris farley had no acting talent at all. name one :> thing that he has done when he wasn;t screaming his head of and then falling :> down? i don;t think you can come up with anything, because he even did it in :> the comeheads movie. the fact that he overdosed shows me that not only does :> he have no talent, he was stupid. phile hartman was one of the nicest people :> out there, chosing to live in a smaller town and getting to know a lot of the :> people there, than living in the "high society." he has a lot of acting :> range, and has shown a lot of it off in the numerous things he has done. Farley was good for what he was...a physical actor. I'll miss Phil more since I like the more cerebral brand of comedy. The subtle undertones of Hartman's comedy is what makes it so funny...you have to think about much of it, much like Dennis Miller. Farley was right in your face. They're different styles, that's all. Whatever floats your boat, I guess. I think I was more shocked at Phil's death; you hardley expect anyone famous to be murded (save maybe Tupac). I think many people saw Farley's death coming....it seemed that he just got bigger and bigger every time you saw him (Newt Gingrich was the same way for a while). :> what pisses me off is the fact that you try to put them into the same acting :> category. the next thing you will say is that hanson has as much musical :> talent and song writing ability as the beatles. : :We'll for teenagers they do have more talent that the Beatles as :teenagers! Judge Hanson in 7 years or so. For a bunch of kids theyt are :emmensely talented i look forward to seeing how they grow- although they :could not get anny better and be as mediocre as they are nopw for the next :3o years My Hanson theory: Hanson is the next Bee Gees. Take a look...there are some big similarities. Jack Bergeron idiotnot@visi.net bluedawg@tmbg.org http://www.monopuff.org/~bluedawg "As the light changed from red to green to yellow and back to red again, I sat there thinking about life. Was it nothing more than a bunch of honking and yelling? Sometimes it seemed that way."--Jack Handy ICQ#5909618 From owner-tmbg-list@tmbg.org Thu May 28 22:06:06 1998 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by ussenterprise.ufp.org (8.8.8/8.8.7) id WAA25607 for tmbg-list-outgoing; Thu, 28 May 1998 22:06:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from imo23.mx.aol.com (imo23.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.67]) by ussenterprise.ufp.org (8.8.8/8.8.7) with ESMTP id WAA25594 for ; Thu, 28 May 1998 22:06:03 -0400 (EDT) From: KdsInThHal@aol.com Received: from KdsInThHal@aol.com by imo23.mx.aol.com (IMOv14_b1.1) id 4GLJa26053; Thu, 28 May 1998 22:04:36 +2000 (EDT) Message-ID: <163c2c5b.356e17b5@aol.com> Date: Thu, 28 May 1998 22:04:36 EDT To: cpdog@rma.edu Cc: tmbg-list@tmbg.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: Re: TMBG: Phil Hartman Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 for Mac sub 82 Sender: owner-tmbg-list@tmbg.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: KdsInThHal@aol.com In a message dated 5/28/98 6:02:09 PM, cpdog@rma.edu wrote: >Is Phil Hartman one of the John's illigitimate brothers? Must be something > >like that. Or if not, then WHY ARE WE TALKING ABOUT HIM ON THE TMBG MAILING > >LIST?!?!?!?!?!??!?!?!? that is a horribly cold thing to say. have some compassion! delete the mail if you don't want to read it. it happens to be a big thing. and many of us loved him. From owner-tmbg-list@tmbg.org Thu May 28 22:07:58 1998 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by ussenterprise.ufp.org (8.8.8/8.8.7) id WAA26025 for tmbg-list-outgoing; Thu, 28 May 1998 22:07:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from cs.umb.edu (root@cs.umb.edu [158.121.104.2]) by ussenterprise.ufp.org (8.8.8/8.8.7) with ESMTP id WAA26014 for ; Thu, 28 May 1998 22:07:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (svr01-p36.ppp.umb.edu [158.121.9.55]) by cs.umb.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id WAA28915 for ; Thu, 28 May 1998 22:07:53 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 28 May 1998 22:07:20 -0400 (EDT) From: Aaron Ball X-Sender: abaddon@localhost cc: tmbg-list@tmbg.org Subject: Re: An excellent suggestion+Semi-TMBG:Baseball Tonight In-Reply-To: <13d69fba.356e13e2@aol.com> Message-ID: X-Bookshelf-Bestiary: Camel & Gnu X-Bumper-Sticker: "Perl Hath Made A Way." X-Hail-Eris: All Hail Discordia! X-Lament: The root password doesn't make me God after all. X-Randomized-Header-And-Sig: Any day now. X-Too-Many-X-Headers: "Of course not, silly." X-Question: Why is Noah Friedman Not Allowed after midnight? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-tmbg-list@tmbg.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: Aaron Ball On Thu, 28 May 1998 DrWormX@aol.com wrote: % First my Excellent suggestion: Is it possible to get certain persons banished % forever from the list? I ask this because that certain list-member to remain % nameless who was arguing with me like a FOOL is one of the most ignorant % people that I have EVER SEEN IN MY LIFE, and I think that he/she should be % expelled from this list. We could even do it democratically, and have a % vote... Please don't be an ass. That was entirely unneccessary. Let's just put the Hartman/Farley thing behind us, eh? I'll attempt to summarize in such a way that we can all agree and get over this. (1) They're both dead. (2) Death sucks. (3) Loss of comedic talent also sucks. (4) These two deaths resulted in a loss of an amount of comedic talent over which certain people on this list may disagree. Regardless of the actual talent levels involved, some talent was lost, so this sucks under both (2) and (3). (5) Talking about things that interest many of us does not neccessarily suck, even if the topics are not the nominal topics of the list. (6) Letting stuff in (5) take over the list DOES suck. (7) TMBG does not suck. Good enough? % Matt- the most irritated he's EVER BEEN Hopefully you will become less irritated as time goes on, and return to being a productive member of society. I hope you acheived a neccessary and satisfying catharsis. ObTMBG: I am overjoyed to have just recently obtained Factory Showroom and discovered that it is, in fact, the best album by TMBG or anyone else since forever. -- If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate. From owner-tmbg-list@tmbg.org Thu May 28 23:34:35 1998 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by ussenterprise.ufp.org (8.8.8/8.8.7) id XAA29898 for tmbg-list-outgoing; Thu, 28 May 1998 23:34:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from x18.boston.juno.com (x18.boston.juno.com [205.231.101.29]) by ussenterprise.ufp.org (8.8.8/8.8.7) with ESMTP id XAA29889 for ; Thu, 28 May 1998 23:34:32 -0400 (EDT) From: tmbgirl@juno.com Received: (from tmbgirl@juno.com) by x18.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id XAS06426; Thu, 28 May 1998 23:29:09 EDT To: tmbg-list@tmbg.org Date: Thu, 28 May 1998 21:29:28 -0600 Subject: Re: An excellent suggestion+Semi-TMBG:Baseball Tonight Message-ID: <19980528.212957.16910.0.TMBgirl@juno.com> References: <13d69fba.356e13e2@aol.com> X-Mailer: Juno 1.49 X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 0-12,15,17-22,25,29-32,34-38 Sender: owner-tmbg-list@tmbg.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: tmbgirl@juno.com On Thu, 28 May 1998 21:48:17 EDT DrWormX@aol.com writes: >First my Excellent suggestion: Is it possible to get certain persons >banished >forever from the list? I ask this because that certain list-member to >remain >nameless who was arguing with me like a FOOL is one of the most >ignorant >people that I have EVER SEEN IN MY LIFE, and I think that he/she >should be >expelled from this list. heh... okay, i just find this highly amusing... my goal on mailing lists is to start controversies and get in these huge arguments over absolutely nothing (so long as it's somewhat relevant)... it tends to keep the lists busy. (and a busy list is a happy list). and i know i'm not the only one, there's like a whole underground conspiracy on this list alone just to get some action on it... > We could even do it democratically, and have >a >vote... i think everyone has something intelligent to say and even if it takes them several thousand posts to get it out, i think it's worth it letting them stay on just to hear something worthwhile come out of 'em... hell, if we kicked people off because they posted irrelevant crap, mike leffel would have been gone in a second... do you guys not remember how much everyone hated him posting? how people made him limit his posts to 1 a day? >Matt- the most irritated he's EVER BEEN take a deep breath... a mailing list is nothing ot get all hot and heavy about. take it easy, JOrdaN http://www2.netcom.com/~arnot/joda/bootlegs.html _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] From owner-tmbg-list@tmbg.org Fri May 29 00:14:36 1998 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by ussenterprise.ufp.org (8.8.8/8.8.7) id AAA01839 for tmbg-list-outgoing; Fri, 29 May 1998 00:14:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from imo21.mx.aol.com (imo21.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.65]) by ussenterprise.ufp.org (8.8.8/8.8.7) with ESMTP id AAA01830 for ; Fri, 29 May 1998 00:14:33 -0400 (EDT) From: BrthrJuan@aol.com Received: from BrthrJuan@aol.com by imo21.mx.aol.com (IMOv14_b1.1) id IUEEa12329 for ; Fri, 29 May 1998 00:13:46 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <7eab5817.356e35fb@aol.com> Date: Fri, 29 May 1998 00:13:46 EDT To: tmbg-list@tmbg.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: TMBG: this is way out of hand already.... Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 170 Sender: owner-tmbg-list@tmbg.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: BrthrJuan@aol.com as if i am not to know that i was the one that people wanted to toss off the list? oh well, feel what you want to feel. there is a thing called free speech, and i am still able to make use of that right. about the whole chris farley/phil hartman thing...i still do not think that anyone understands at all where i am coming from. phil hartman was a wonderful man, with a great heart who helped out many, many people in his time. chris farley was a crazed party man. i have no respect for anyone like that, for a certain number of reasons...one of them being the fact that i am a recovered drug abuser myself. i have lost all respect for people who abuse, and especially to the point of overdosing. people tried to help him out, yet he did not accept it at all. that was his first and last mistake. i have been trying to help people recover, but you cannot show them sympathy. the more you do, the more they will still feel like a victim and not the one with the problem. yeah, you may miss him, but i will miss phil hartman an awful lot more. second, i am sick of all this hate mail to me saying that i am the most ignorant person in the world...man oh man, i don;t even know how to start attacking this one. in fact, i am not even going to bother. you all accused me of being a psychotic hate monger without knowing any of the real story behind my reasoning..who are the stupid ones now? still you may feel like i am evil (and i do get that a lot), but hey, i am allowed to my opinions, as you are too. next time you are going to yell at someone for something they say, remember these simple facts - 1. make sure you knwo what you are talking about first 2. everyone is entitled to their opinions 3. if you try to take away that freedom, we would have a major world problem on our hands. people with the "right" ideas will start to put the other peple down, and then sooner or later we have another holocaust on our hands thanks for trying to understand a little.... aaron From owner-tmbg-list@tmbg.org Fri May 29 00:53:04 1998 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by ussenterprise.ufp.org (8.8.8/8.8.7) id AAA04243 for tmbg-list-outgoing; Fri, 29 May 1998 00:53:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from copland.udel.edu (copland.udel.edu [128.175.13.92]) by ussenterprise.ufp.org (8.8.8/8.8.7) with ESMTP id AAA04231 for ; Fri, 29 May 1998 00:53:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (spike@localhost) by copland.udel.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id AAA05936 for ; Fri, 29 May 1998 00:53:00 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 29 May 1998 00:52:59 -0400 (EDT) From: "Harlan L. Landes" To: tmbg-list@tmbg.org Subject: Re: TMBG: Phil Hartman & Chris Farley In-Reply-To: <39361587.356ddac0@aol.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-tmbg-list@tmbg.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: "Harlan L. Landes" On Thu, 28 May 1998 BrthrJuan@aol.com wrote: > let it piss you off. chris farley had no acting talent at all. does this (an opinion of talent) have any bearing on whether his death is as important as someone elses? isn't it rather cruel to base the worth of his life on whether or not he has acting talent? So what if he doesn't? So what if he's stupid for doing drugs? Any death is sad (IMHO) -- especially any untimely death. Maybe Chris brought it upon himself, but like I said, still sad. back to lurking for me. harlan From owner-tmbg-list@tmbg.org Fri May 29 01:14:01 1998 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by ussenterprise.ufp.org (8.8.8/8.8.7) id BAA05236 for tmbg-list-outgoing; Fri, 29 May 1998 01:14:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from imo23.mx.aol.com (imo23.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.67]) by ussenterprise.ufp.org (8.8.8/8.8.7) with ESMTP id BAA05227 for ; Fri, 29 May 1998 01:13:58 -0400 (EDT) From: CajunGram@aol.com Received: from CajunGram@aol.com by imo23.mx.aol.com (IMOv14_b1.1) id IGVKa26052 for ; Fri, 29 May 1998 01:12:33 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <4f2ac813.356e43c2@aol.com> Date: Fri, 29 May 1998 01:12:33 EDT To: tmbg-list@tmbg.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: TMBG: Phil Hartman/Chris Farley/Kicking People Off The List... Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 for Windows 95 sub 64 Sender: owner-tmbg-list@tmbg.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: CajunGram@aol.com SHUT UP!!!!!!! It really rolls me that the people who are the most fervent about keeping the list TMBG only (which is a pretty dumb idea, no offense, i just don't agree) are the ones who keep posting all the time about it, thereby adding to the clutter that they despise so much. If you don't want to read posts that aren't about They Might Be Giants, then don't read them... The list should about people who like a band called They Might Be Giants, consisting of two members, John Linnell and John Flansburg. These people on this list like to post messages so other people on the list can read them, and if they choose, they can post back, or they can post something of their own. If they see some posts that they don't want to read, then they just delete those posts, and read the ones they want to. These people are sort of like a small community, they like to talk about what's going on in the community, sometimes this doesn't involve the band called They Might Be Giants. Sometimes they like to talk about other bands, like Moxy Fruvous, or Soul Coughing, or Ben Folds Five. Sometimes, they even like to talk about completely unmusic related topics, like movies, or books, or anything they want to. Sometimes in a community, there are people with different opinions, and they should be able to respect eachothers differences, or at least not publicly flog them because of them. The community grows and prospers, and all are happy. Thats just my two cents, and I apologize for the utopian free love kind of feel to it, but hey, I'm reading 1984 and I need something to counterbalance big brother... Graham "Big Brother Is Watching You" Amsden From owner-tmbg-list@tmbg.org Fri May 29 01:56:55 1998 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by ussenterprise.ufp.org (8.8.8/8.8.7) id BAA07056 for tmbg-list-outgoing; Fri, 29 May 1998 01:56:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from enterprise.fuse.net (ns2.fuse.net [206.230.21.10]) by ussenterprise.ufp.org (8.8.8/8.8.7) with ESMTP id BAA07047 for ; Fri, 29 May 1998 01:56:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from LOCALNAME (excelsior-81.fuse.net [208.23.201.81]) by enterprise.fuse.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id BAA07226 for ; Fri, 29 May 1998 01:56:59 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <356E7902.3204@fuse.net> Date: Fri, 29 May 1998 01:59:46 -0700 From: jays your one-paged dictionary Organization: dial-a-song! 718-287-6962, narrrrrrrrr! X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (Win95; I; 16bit) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: tmbg-list@tmbg.org Subject: TMBG: my take on things. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-tmbg-list@tmbg.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: jays your one-paged dictionary to all: woah. my mind floods itself with an excess of thoughts, and i'm not sure quite where to begin. my presence on this list is known, but not thoroughly established; lazy lurkerhood is more appealing for the eternal slacker that i am, and my hands don't often find themselves taking the time to articulate that which my head would like. now, however, i see that this world is in need of my services of arbitration--lest the cold war approach the fire, so to speak. due to my relative inexperience with the list--it couldn't be more than a month and a half--i cannot claim complete expertise on its patterns, but the following seems to be a vaguely accurate outline: 1) something significant takes place, affecting in some way several list members. 2) the list is subsequently flooded with non-tmbg posts pertaining to this event. 3) irritable tmbg purists take offense and complain, starting arguments and unwittingly furthering off topic posting with their oft-heated arguments that the list should not waver from talk of the johns. 4) things cool down for some reason or another, achieiving a temporary state of normalcy; history repeats. the unstable nature of this list is mostly due to what others before me have pointed out: fans of the johns often seem to have many things in common, perpetuating discussions in a great number of areas. the point has been made that this list is not, indeed, a venue for talk of tmbg, but one for tmbg members to commune ideas of any nature. as whatever it began, it is now what it is, and i, in all truthfulness, have not seen a more intelligent forum of discussion in quite a while. if one is not joyfully entertained by that fact, unsubscription is a simple procedure and i'm sure any experienced listee would be more than happy to direct the process. however, there is a certain point at which discussion becomes argument and tact should prevail. personal opinions are like noses--pick your own, yada yada--and, this list being what it is, the option must be available to state your opinion without fear of a flame response. even when it's one of "tmbg only." arguing only wastes time. keep it clean. peace, love, and good happiness stuff, jay. -- jayhc, who can't go back to where he was before. e-mail: sirjamez@fuse.net, phonebook@tmbg.org aol im: SaturnChrd, PhoneBookJ irc: PhoneBook "and sadly the cross-eyed bear's been put to sleep behind the stairs, and his shoes are laced with irony." --tmbg "Hey, some people take drugs and some people like to have sex all day, I like to watch my bees as I make music, so what." --steve vai -- ------------------------------ End of tmbg-list Digest #6-29 *****************************