Errors-To: owner-tmbg-digest@tmbg.org Reply-To: tmbg-digest@tmbg.org Sender: owner-tmbg-digest@tmbg.org Precedence: bulk From: owner-tmbg-digest@tmbg.org To: tmbg-digest@tmbg.org Subject: tmbg-list Digest #7-24 tmbg-list Digest, Volume 7, Number 24 Wednesday, 24 June 1998 Today's Topics: TMBG: Fan Geography Re: TMBG: Super Fueled Freaksicle NON-TMBG: Re: tmbg-list Digest #7-22 TMBG: monopuff "review" TMBG: monopuff "review" Re: NON-TMBG: Athletics, Green Day, BNL., geography, techno TMBG: IFTS "Hidden Track" Re: TMBG: Joshua Fried Re: TMBG: IFTS "Hidden Track" Re: TMBG: Not so useless afterall Re: TMBG: Not so useless afterall Re: TMBG: IFTS "Hidden Track" Re: TMBG: Not so useless afterall TMBG: Re: tmbg-list Digest #7-22 Re: TMBG: IFTS "Hidden Track" Re: TMBG: IFTS "Hidden Track" Re: TMBG: IFTS "Hidden Track" TMBG: Re: Fan Geography & accents Re: TMBG: IFTS "Hidden Track" Re: TMBG: IFTS "Hidden Track" Re: TMBG: Joshua Fried rantings Re: TMBG: IFTS "Hidden Track" TMBG: scat Re: non-TMBG: hidden tracks Re: TMBG: Joshua Fried rantings Re: TMBG: Joshua Fried rantings Re: TMBG: the whole schools issue / Hello club Re: TMBG: dagnabit. re: tmbg: the whole schools issue Re: NON-TMBG: the whole schools issue / Hello club Re: NON-TMBG: the whole schools issue / Hello club Re: NON-TMBG: Schools Re: TMBG: Fan Geography Re: NON-TMBG: Athletics, Green Day, BNL., geography, techno TMBG: TMBG message in Harry the Handsome Executive TMBG: bye... Re: TMBG: Hello Subscription Re: TMBG: Joshua Fried rantings Re: TMBG: The Man NON-TMBG: Postmodernism, Art, and Puff Daddy Re: TMBG: Joshua Fried rantings TMBG: my place.... Re: NON-TMBG: Postmodernism, Art, and Puff Daddy Fwd: NON-TMBG: Postmodernism, Art, and Puff Daddy Re: TMBG: Joshua Fried rantings Re: Fwd: NON-TMBG: Postmodernism, Art, and Puff Daddy Non-TMBG: Resident Evil Movie Re: TMBG: Fan Geography Re: TMBG: scat Re: TMBG: the whole schools issue / Hello club TMBG: TMBG Live In NYC Re: Fwd: NON-TMBG: Postmodernism, Art and Puff Daddy Re: TMBG: Joshua Fried rantings -Reply TMBG: Mono Who? Re: TMBG: Mono Who? Administrivia: If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing send mail to tmbg-digest-request@tmbg.org for instructions on how to be automatically removed. --------------------------------------------------------------------- The views expressed herein are those of the individual authors. --------------------------------------------------------------------- tmbg-list is digested with Digest 3.5b (John Relph ). ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19980622102917.008265b0@131.123.90.239> Date: Mon, 22 Jun 1998 10:29:17 -0400 From: Martin Titchenell Subject: TMBG: Fan Geography City: Akron State: Ohio Zip Code: 44312 Good day. mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm Martin Titchenell, MCP marty@rags.kent.edu Research and Graduate Studies (330)672-9585 mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm ------------------------------ From: "Mr. Me" Date: Mon, 22 Jun 1998 10:10:55 CST Subject: Re: TMBG: Super Fueled Freaksicle Message-ID: <7BA544837E5@athena.valpo.edu> last i heard, it was scrapped by the record companies because there wasn't a lot of really popular demand for it. plans to release it are probably far off since 1) then was just released last year, and 2) severe tire damage is coming out in august, both albums containing tmbg singles, rarities, and a few previously unreleased tracks. [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] "Instead of creating new weapons of destruction, we ought to get some use out of the ones we already have." Deep Thoughts [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Experience the many media of Jeremy Skrenes! Email: jskrenes@athena.valpo.edu Snail: or p356jskrenes@exodus.valpo.edu Wehrenberg Hall Airwaves: Sunday nights, 12-2am 95.1, WVUR Valparaiso, IN 46383 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Jun 1998 09:34:56 -0600 (MDT) From: J Kuemmerle Subject: NON-TMBG: Re: tmbg-list Digest #7-22 Message-ID: On Mon, 22 Jun 1998, Emmanuel Donio wrote: > I think I can fairly say that I'm sick of hearing > about Mike Leffel, whoever the hell that is. i'm sick of hearing about mike leffel too. i'd much rather hear *from* mike leffel (ah, if only his computer hadn't crashed!)... ah, i miss mike... > Peace be with you all. and also with you. --jim kuemmerle, assistant vice-janitor of the Church of Leffel... j.kuemmerle@m.cc.utah.edu http://www.geocities.com/soho/gallery/4668/ ------------------------------ From: mjames@khserver.loyola.edu (Matthew James) Message-Id: <9806221543.AA24077@khserver.loyola.edu> Subject: TMBG: monopuff "review" Date: Mon, 22 Jun 1998 11:43:01 -0400 (EDT) > well, i randomly found IFTS at rhino records yesterday, so i thought "what > the hell" and bought it. i was not disappointed. this is some good shit > right here. never have i heard such compelling flansburgh melodies - i've > found his most recent tmbg stuff (ie. pet name, spy) to be a little... > lacking. but this makes up for it. hal craigin is a god among funkmeisters, Wow, I"m surprised, I think that Pet Name is one of the greatest TMBG songs ever made and certainly is great live. But I'm curious, what do you not like about this song, is it mainly the music or the lyrics or both? It's a rather bitter song, about a rather confused person in a rather confused and angry relationship, but it has a very poppy, cool sound to the song and is really catchy to me and I like it very much. But yes, it's rather different from what's on IFTS. -Matt -- Matt James mjames@greed.loyola.edu Loyola College in Baltimore, MD Bruce Campbell Gazette: www.bcgazette.com ------------------------------ From: mike12da@cyberwaves.com (Mike Mcguire) Subject: TMBG: monopuff "review" Date: Mon, 22 Jun 1998 16:05:49 GMT Message-Id: <898531549@cyberwaves.com> Organization: SYNERGY RESOURCES, INC. -> Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) -> by ussenterprise.ufp.org (8.8.8/8.8.7) with SMTP id LAA27406; -> Mon, 22 Jun 1998 11:52:12 -0400 (EDT) -> Received: by ussenterprise.ufp.org (bulk_mailer v1.6); Mon, 22 Jun 1998 11:52:11 -0400 -> Received: (from majordom@localhost) -> by ussenterprise.ufp.org (8.8.8/8.8.7) id LAA27395 -> for tmbg-list-outgoing; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 11:52:11 -0400 (EDT) -> Received: from khserver.loyola.edu (khserver.loyola.edu [144.126.178.254]) -> by ussenterprise.ufp.org (8.8.8/8.8.7) with SMTP id LAA27382 -> for ; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 11:52:08 -0400 (EDT) -> Received: by khserver.loyola.edu (5.57/Ultrix3.0-C) -> id AA24077; Mon, 22 Jun 98 11:43:02 -0400 -> From: mjames@khserver.loyola.edu (Matthew James) -> Message-Id: <9806221543.AA24077@khserver.loyola.edu> -> Subject: TMBG: monopuff "review" -> To: tmbg-list@tmbg.org -> Date: Mon, 22 Jun 1998 11:43:01 -0400 (EDT) -> X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL22] -> Content-Type: text -> Sender: owner-tmbg-list@tmbg.org -> Reply-To: mjames@khserver.loyola.edu (Matthew James) -> > well, i randomly found IFTS at rhino records yesterday, so i thought "what -> > the hell" and bought it. i was not disappointed. this is some good shit -> > right here. never have i heard such compelling flansburgh melodies - i've -> > found his most recent tmbg stuff (ie. pet name, spy) to be a little... -> > lacking. but this makes up for it. hal craigin is a god among funkmeisters, -> Wow, I"m surprised, I think that Pet Name is one of the greatest TMBG -> songs ever made and certainly is great live. -> But I'm curious, what do you not like about this song, is it mainly the -> music or the lyrics or both? It's a rather bitter song, about a rather -> confused person in a rather confused and angry relationship, but it has -> a very poppy, cool sound to the song and is really catchy to me and I -> like it very much. But yes, it's rather different from what's on IFTS. -> -Matt -> -- -> Matt James mjames@greed.loyola.edu -> Loyola College in Baltimore, MD -> Bruce Campbell Gazette: www.bcgazette.com Pet Name is quite possibly my very favorite TMBG song. Never hearde it live, but I crank it anytime it happens to come on my CD player. *Mike* ------------------------------ From: tmbgirl@juno.com Date: Mon, 22 Jun 1998 10:05:30 -0600 Subject: Re: NON-TMBG: Athletics, Green Day, BNL., geography, techno Message-ID: <19980622.100939.11150.5.TMBgirl@juno.com> allright so i'm back from my three-day trip and rumaging through the 578 messages that i have... >Um...this may sound even more elitist, but well, I think places like >colleges >are not places to play games, but to get an education. Basketball is >merely a >game, it should not be a reason for getting into college. yeah but then you get people like me where the only reason i'm participating in sports is so that i can go to school and get an education... once im out of school the likelihood that i participate in any of the sports that i currently do is very very slim... (well i'm sure i'll still do them but i won't be competing like i currently am) >I was a-wone, I was all by myself, no one was whistning, I was >thinking of >you... hehehe, one of the funniest thing I had heard in a long time... you guys know that that's Tre singing (the drummer) right? > (and if you keep track of >BNL- >related stuff, okay... for someone that doesn't... has the new album come out? what's it called? oh yeah... (D-Town baby!) Denver, Colorado 80206 > >Woah.. that is a reallyreally cool idea.. *someone* here *must* >have that >capability..? well let's see here... my sister's a DJ (at raves don't see 'DJ' and assume radio)... she's reeeally good too... just that she hates TMBG now-a-days so perhaps i can have her teach me some shtuff... and see what i can do... take it easy, JOrdaN http://www2.netcom.com/~arnot/joda/bootlegs.html " So yeah...keep on advertising your site. It gives me stuff to do when I'm really bored" _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ From: mike12da@cyberwaves.com (Mike Mcguire) Subject: TMBG: IFTS "Hidden Track" Date: Mon, 22 Jun 1998 16:15:51 GMT Message-Id: <898532151@cyberwaves.com> Organization: SYNERGY RESOURCES, INC. Ok, since no one has done this yet, I think it's fair to title the hidden track on It's Fun To Steal, "Hidden Track"... so here goes. "Hidden Track" (-2:03) (Male Computerized Voice) Your call is very very very very important to us. Please hold and your call will be answered by the next available operator. This message will not be repeated. (Female Computerized voice) Hidden track Hidden track I'm under house arrest in the Hidden track Why wont anyone help me Why wont you help me This room is dark and the air is cold There is no way out of the Hidden track Where have all my friends gone How can no one hear my cries Hidden track Hidden track I'm under house arrest in the Hidden track In this dark, dark room In this dark, dark room I am alone In this dark, dark room In this dark, dark room I am alone But my love of music is keeping my spirit alive And this is the song I have written to keep my spirit alive, And it goes: (Male Computerized Voice) Hidden track Hidden track I'm under house arrest in the Hidden track Why wont anyone help me Why wont you help me [few seconds pause] (Female Computerized Voice) Hello, my name is Pat Dillett, and I am a record producer And I would like to welcome you to the Mono Puff Syndicates album "It's Fun To Steal". We hope you enjoy listening to it as much as we enjoyed making it. Enjoy the fresh new sound of Mono Puff Syndicate. And now the scat* portion of our program. Scoo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-Sca-bo-dwee Scee-ee-do-de Scwee-do-de-do-dwee-do-dway Hidden track Hidden track Jack. *Scat is the only word that I'm not sure of. *Mike* ------------------------------ Message-ID: <19980622162238.6210.rocketmail@send1d.yahoomail.com> Date: Mon, 22 Jun 1998 09:22:38 -0700 (PDT) From: Amanda Nichols Subject: Re: TMBG: Joshua Fried > Who is Joshua Fried, and does he know he destroid one of Their best > songs? Wow.. before you go calling someone a bastard, it's a good idea to find out who they are first. Joshua is a producer and composer who's done tons annd tons of interesting work with many varied artists. He helped out on TMBG's Apollo 18 as well as the remix for Misc. T. >Shure, the singing part of "The World's Address Joshua Fried > Re-Mix" was okay, but what about all that crappy, monotnous, > music??????? That "monotonous" music is in a postmodern audio bit. > After that, I got the Lincoln album and I loved it!!! I > couldn't believe it was the same song!!! Yup, that's the wonder of the remix. AManda _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Jun 1998 10:34:20 -0600 (MDT) From: J Kuemmerle Subject: Re: TMBG: IFTS "Hidden Track" Message-ID: On Mon, 22 Jun 1998, Mike Mcguire wrote: > And now the scat* portion of our program. > > Scoo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-Sca-bo-dwee > Scee-ee-do-de Scwee-do-de-do-dwee-do-dway (snip) > *Scat is the only word that I'm not sure of. scat is correct here. it refers to the "scoo-doo-doo-doo-etc." portion. scat singing is relatively common in jazz, and was perfected by louis armstrong, ella fitzgerald, sarah vaughan, and the like. the term may or may not be (i'm not sure) related to the polite word for shit. --jim kuemmerle, who's probably the polite word for something or other... j.kuemmerle@m.cc.utah.edu http://www.geocities.com/soho/gallery/4668/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Jun 1998 10:50:00 -0600 (MDT) From: Scot Westwood Subject: Re: TMBG: Not so useless afterall Message-ID: On Sat, 20 Jun 1998, Adam Tyner wrote: > I've done it before... I bought the Don't Let's Start 3" single after > having Misc. T for over a year, and I paid $15 for the Then in-store > sampler when I already had it... It's not something I do very often, but I > don't think anyone would say you're a rabid fan for not getting them. It's > the really rare, obscure stuff that shows just how rabid a fan > is...dedicating your time to find items like Dr. Spock's Backup Band, > Live!! NYC, and Kit Kat Acoustic Break. (All of which I have. ;) > > -Adam > > At 08:38 PM 6/20/98 -0400, Josh Buckland wrote: > >I've a question about Rabid (child) Fanhood. If a CD contained the EXACT > >same versions of the EXACT same songs (no extra or different songs) as > >another CD by the EXACT same group, but with a DIFFERENT alternative > >cover, would a true fan buy the CD for a change in the CD cover? I ask > >because I've given it my best to be the biggest fan I can be. It looks as > >though I've been unsuccessful. People of Cowtown, I need your help!!! > /=---------------- http://www.he-man.org/ctyner/ ----------------=\ > http://www.awod.com/gallery/rwav/ctyner/ > The home of He-Man, "Weird Al", Yoo-hoo, Killer Tomatoes, and more! > Demented music list admin O- MiSTie #67,326 > Actually its not that hard to get live in NYC anymore. It is included as a bonus cd in the australian tour cd version of John Henry, which you can but at amazon.com. It does cost about $33 but you end up with an extra copy of John Henry. ------------------------------ Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980622125325.006a6dc8@mail.clemson.edu> Date: Mon, 22 Jun 1998 12:53:25 -0400 From: Adam Tyner Subject: Re: TMBG: Not so useless afterall Yeah, but that's only the 6 track version. I'm talking about the 26 track radio promo. -Adam At 10:50 AM 6/22/98 -0600, Scot Westwood wrote: > >Actually its not that hard to get live in NYC anymore. It is included as >a bonus cd in the australian tour cd version of John Henry, which you can >but at amazon.com. It does cost about $33 but you end up with an extra >copy of John Henry. /=---------------- http://www.he-man.org/ctyner/ ----------------=\ http://www.awod.com/gallery/rwav/ctyner/ The home of He-Man, "Weird Al", Yoo-hoo, Killer Tomatoes, and more! Demented music list admin O- MiSTie #67,326 ------------------------------ Message-Id: Date: Mon, 22 Jun 1998 12:04:33 -0600 From: The Pope Subject: Re: TMBG: IFTS "Hidden Track" All I can say about the Hidden Track is that someone had to much fun with SimpleText's voice playback feature, but it's cool. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Jun 1998 12:17:08 -0600 (MDT) From: Scot Westwood Subject: Re: TMBG: Not so useless afterall Message-ID: On Mon, 22 Jun 1998, Adam Tyner wrote: > Yeah, but that's only the 6 track version. I'm talking about the 26 track > radio promo. > > -Adam > > At 10:50 AM 6/22/98 -0600, Scot Westwood wrote: > > > >Actually its not that hard to get live in NYC anymore. It is included as > >a bonus cd in the australian tour cd version of John Henry, which you can > >but at amazon.com. It does cost about $33 but you end up with an extra > >copy of John Henry. > > /=---------------- http://www.he-man.org/ctyner/ ----------------=\ > http://www.awod.com/gallery/rwav/ctyner/ > The home of He-Man, "Weird Al", Yoo-hoo, Killer Tomatoes, and more! > Demented music list admin O- MiSTie #67,326 > Great, now I've got another cd to spend my time and money looking for, thanks for the info. ------------------------------ From: gray42@juno.com Date: Mon, 22 Jun 1998 14:29:55 -0400 Subject: TMBG: Re: tmbg-list Digest #7-22 Message-ID: <19980622.144449.3230.0.gray42@juno.com> On Mon, 22 Jun 1998 03:21:41 -0400 Emmanuel Donio writes: >(5) Mr. Bungle's "Disco Volante": Ingeniously after the third track. There's also the one you hear (Mike Patton foolin' around) a few moments after the last track. Mysterio Gal (fellow Subgenius & Happy Mutant) "ME NO LIKE HAMBURGER, ME WANT PEANUTBUTTER, ACTUALLY ME HATE PEANUTBUTTER TOO! ME JUST WANT HAIR!" -- Claire Monster (fully equipped with extremely loud keyboard and monster voice) ICQ# 9585405 MST3K#88182 gray42@juno.com http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Coffeehouse/4871 The Official Project Omicrom website: www.geocities.com/SoHo/Square/9007 _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ From: gray42@juno.com Date: Mon, 22 Jun 1998 14:44:07 -0400 Subject: Re: TMBG: IFTS "Hidden Track" Message-ID: <19980622.144449.3230.1.gray42@juno.com> On Mon, 22 Jun 1998 12:04:33 -0600 The Pope writes: >All I can say about the Hidden Track is that someone had to much fun >with >SimpleText's voice playback feature, but it's cool. Is there a website where you can download this program, the school has it, some of my friends have it, but I don't, and would love to have it Mysterio Gal (fellow Subgenius & Happy Mutant) "ME NO LIKE HAMBURGER, ME WANT PEANUTBUTTER, ACTUALLY ME HATE PEANUTBUTTER TOO! ME JUST WANT HAIR!" -- Claire Monster (fully equipped with extremely loud keyboard and monster voice) ICQ# 9585405 MST3K#88182 gray42@juno.com http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Coffeehouse/4871 The Official Project Omicrom website: www.geocities.com/SoHo/Square/9007 _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Message-Id: Date: Mon, 22 Jun 1998 14:52:59 -0600 From: The Pope Subject: Re: TMBG: IFTS "Hidden Track" basically just get any software and install it on your mac...it's included with just about every software package since you need Simple Text to read the help me files of the software companies just throw it in with the other software....then just make sure you have the speech extension installed on your system...you should be able to find them at apple's site. That or if you have a mac it should already be on your machine if it is a 1990's apple machine....mmmmmm...Macintalk ------------------------------ From: KdsInThHal@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Mon, 22 Jun 1998 16:18:04 EDT Subject: Re: TMBG: IFTS "Hidden Track" In a message dated 6/22/98 11:19:13 AM, you wrote: >Hidden track >Hidden track >Jack. actually, if you have simpletalk er whatever on your computer, and you want to duplicate it, it's.. Hidden track, Hid'n track Jack. ..i think. i'd compare it to the actual thing right now, but that would require me to go in the other room, get the cd, and my sucky old cd player (the only one i have that will actually scan backwards) put it in, go through the pain of scanning backwards when the button sticks, and ..oh i'm not going to do it . I know the the capitilzation and apostrophe's et al make a difference. sarah ------------------------------ Message-Id: Date: Mon, 22 Jun 1998 16:21:06 -0400 From: rjunior@erols.com (R.J.) Subject: TMBG: Re: Fan Geography & accents >Just a simple survey out of sheer curiosity. Where are YOU located? I'm >interested basically in these three pieces of info: > city > state > zip code Silver Spring Maryland 20905 (of course, this information will become grossly inaccurate when I go to college) As for the discussion on accents, let me just say that EVERYONE has an accent. To me at least, my friends have no discernable accents. But when we all went to Ireland for a United Nations Model, where many people had thick, distracting English & Irish accents, numerous people commented on our American "accents". -RJ "People should get beat up for stating their beliefs" - TMBG rjunior@erols.com ------------------------------ From: KdsInThHal@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Mon, 22 Jun 1998 16:23:12 EDT Subject: Re: Re: TMBG: IFTS "Hidden Track" In a message dated 6/22/98 3:05:08 PM, gray42@juno.com wrote: >Is there a website where you can download this program, the school has >it, some of my friends have it, but I don't, and would love to have it well, it's a macintosh thing. :) i don't know, there's *probably* something like that for ..windows or what have you. of course i have no idea what kind of computer you have. but if you have a mac without the voice extension, let me know and i can email it to ya. sarah ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Jun 1998 15:47:18 -0500 (CDT) From: Bill Tatalovich Subject: Re: TMBG: IFTS "Hidden Track" Message-ID: > > *Scat is the only word that I'm not sure of. > > scat is correct here. it refers to the "scoo-doo-doo-doo-etc." portion. > scat singing is relatively common in jazz, and was perfected by louis > armstrong, ella fitzgerald, sarah vaughan, and the like. the term may or > may not be (i'm not sure) related to the polite word for shit. Time for me to nitpick. Unless I'm mistaken (along with my jazz professor), Louis Armstrong essentially invented scat singing. I mean, people sang SORT of like that, but the scat singing you hear nowadays (well, anything recorded after Armstrong) is patterned after Louis Armstrong. Story is that he was singing a song once and completely forgot the words, so he just sang syllables...hence the modern scat singing. At least that's what I heard. Bill Tatalovich wt3@cec.wustl.edu personnel@kwur.wustl.edu np: Miles Davis--Birth of the Cool ------------------------------ From: Kamesennin@aol.com Message-ID: <50ecd3ed.358eccfc@aol.com> Date: Mon, 22 Jun 1998 17:30:35 EDT Subject: Re: TMBG: Joshua Fried rantings << That "monotonous" music is in a postmodern audio bit. "Postmodern" is a remarkably stupid word that people use to make crap sound like it can pass for "artistic." Just because somebody bothered to do it doesn't make it good, and my idea of "good" isn't taking tracks of music someone else recorded and looping them endlessly, and yes, monotonously. However, this doesn't mean that any of you aren't allowed to like it, so like it. Just be aware that most people with a decent sence of what makes music good would agree that today's frequent "sampling" of songs is a really pathetic method of 'artistic expression.' Case in point: Puff Daddy and "I'll Be Missing You." Josh Fried's remix annoys the &#%$ out of me and every TMBG fan I have personally spoken to, which is not good because I'm running low on &#%$. -Me ------------------------------ From: gray42@juno.com Date: Mon, 22 Jun 1998 17:57:52 -0400 Subject: Re: TMBG: IFTS "Hidden Track" Message-ID: <19980622.180009.3326.0.gray42@juno.com> On Mon, 22 Jun 1998 16:23:12 EDT KdsInThHal@aol.com writes: > >In a message dated 6/22/98 3:05:08 PM, gray42@juno.com wrote: > >>Is there a website where you can download this program, the school >has >>it, some of my friends have it, but I don't, and would love to have >it > > >well, it's a macintosh thing. :) i don't know, there's *probably* >something >like that for ..windows or what have you. of course i have no idea >what kind >of computer you have. > >but if you have a mac without the voice extension, let me know and i >can email >it to ya. > > >sarah > I have windows 95, on an IBM compatible computer, my friend, who has what I guess would be a similar program, also has Windows 95. It's just like simpletext but it's fer windows Mysterio Gal (who is jealous of all the mac owners on the list, and quite possibly, the world) "ME NO LIKE HAMBURGER, ME WANT PEANUTBUTTER, ACTUALLY ME HATE PEANUTBUTTER TOO! ME JUST WANT HAIR!" -- Claire Monster (fully equipped with extremely loud keyboard and monster voice) ICQ# 9585405 MST3K#88182 gray42@juno.com http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Coffeehouse/4871 The Official Project Omicrom website: www.geocities.com/SoHo/Square/9007 _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Jun 1998 16:32:35 -0600 (MDT) From: J Kuemmerle Subject: TMBG: scat Message-ID: On Mon, 22 Jun 1998, Bill Tatalovich wrote: > Time for me to nitpick. Unless I'm mistaken (along with my jazz > professor), Louis Armstrong essentially invented scat singing. this is what i thought i remembered, but i wasn't *entirely* sure, and didn't want to make claims to that effect until i'd had a chance to research it. > I mean, people sang SORT of like that, but the scat singing you hear > nowadays (well, anything recorded after Armstrong) is patterned after > Louis Armstrong. except for those who patterned it after ella (who patterned it after louis)... :) or except for those who scat without knowing what the hell they're doing (a la spin doctors)... my personal take on the issue (which i forgot when i wrote my last bunch of scat) is that scat's greatest practitioner is currently bobby mcferrin. take it or leave it, as you will. > np: Miles Davis--Birth of the Cool i'll go home and put that on my stereo right now as a show of solidarity. :) --jim kuemmerle, who plays jazz like a polish labor union... j.kuemmerle@m.cc.utah.edu http://www.geocities.com/soho/gallery/4668/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Jun 1998 17:52:52 -0500 (CDT) From: Bill Tatalovich Subject: Re: non-TMBG: hidden tracks Message-ID: Hey all-- I was just going to let the entire hidden track thing lie, but I'm listening to a hidden track right now that is extremely funny. If anyone has a CD by Hayden called _Everything I Long For_, there's a hidden track on that one at the end of the CD. The hidden track consists of the cook from some restaurant telling you how to make the most delicious chicken club sandwich. It is followed by even more recipes....weird. Okay, I think that's enough from me. Bill Tatalovich wt3@cec.wustl.edu personnel@kwur.wustl.edu np: Hayden--Everything I Long For (duh) ------------------------------ Message-Id: Date: Mon, 22 Jun 98 19:15 EDT From: kbrodbec@remcen.ehhs.cmich.edu (Kirsten Brodbeck) Subject: Re: TMBG: Joshua Fried rantings Just be aware that most people with a decent sence of what makes music >good would agree that today's frequent "sampling" of songs is a really >pathetic method of 'artistic expression.' Not necessarily true - Beck uses sampling to create whole new sounds, and he's widely regarded by people with "decent" musical sense as being quite the artist. BranVan 3000 does it, too, and I'd say they're anything but "pathetic." Of course, there's going to be people who argue, but when isn't there? For the record, "I'll Be Missing You" is a monstronsity, but that's for another time and another place.. ;) Kirsten -- [][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][] "And she said losing love is like a window in your heart Everybody sees you're blown apart..." - Paul Simon "Graceland" Kirsten Brodbeck AKA Crow kbrodbec@remcen.ehhs.cmich.edu ------------------------------ From: "Mr. Me" Date: Mon, 22 Jun 1998 18:15:15 CST Subject: Re: TMBG: Joshua Fried rantings Message-ID: <7C267A62355@athena.valpo.edu> Subject: Re: TMBG: the whole schools issue / Hello club Message-ID: sorry for taking so long to reply to that one, but in a current high school experience from two different schools, the one where band is a class was 10 times larger (not exaggerating) than the extracurricular one. This, I feel, disproves your theory on the fact that band is a grade bringing down membership. Helfgott (oh, yeah, thanx for the complement, I like my name, too) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Jun 1998 17:19:28 -0700 (PDT) From: leonard helfgott Subject: Re: TMBG: dagnabit. re: tmbg: the whole schools issue Message-ID: well, at my high school, 4.0 is the max ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Jun 1998 17:21:35 -0700 (PDT) From: leonard helfgott Subject: Re: NON-TMBG: the whole schools issue / Hello club Message-ID: what's the deal with all the people sending the same message twice? ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Jun 1998 17:21:50 -0700 (PDT) From: leonard helfgott Subject: Re: NON-TMBG: the whole schools issue / Hello club Message-ID: what's the deal with people sending the same message twice? ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Jun 1998 17:24:12 -0700 (PDT) From: leonard helfgott Subject: Re: NON-TMBG: Schools Message-ID: I heard that MA had the best schools ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Jun 1998 17:26:19 -0700 (PDT) From: leonard helfgott Subject: Re: TMBG: Fan Geography Message-ID: Bellingham, WA 98225 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Jun 1998 17:33:57 -0700 (PDT) From: leonard helfgott Subject: Re: NON-TMBG: Athletics, Green Day, BNL., geography, techno Message-ID: I go back to my previous comment, if your academic resume' is as great as that, you can get an academic scholarship ------------------------------ From: KdsInThHal@aol.com Message-ID: <74a9bab3.358f05a6@aol.com> Date: Mon, 22 Jun 1998 21:32:20 EDT Subject: TMBG: TMBG message in Harry the Handsome Executive hey! :) i remember someone mentioning this before, can you tell me *what* you press to see "Someone keeps moving my chair" in HtHE? I used to have this game but my trial period ran out;) ...i got another copy today, and pressed all the keys but the damn message never came up. if ya can help me, *thanks*. :) sarah ------------------------------ Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19980622153228.007abe10@pop.cwru.edu> Date: Mon, 22 Jun 1998 15:32:28 -0400 From: SpiderEyes Subject: TMBG: bye... Well, I'm off on our family vacation tomorrow (oh, joy), so I'll be unsubscribing for a couple weeks. If you want to get something to me, email directly, jen@tmbg.org; I'll pick it up on Jul 3. Have fun all, SpiderEyes ------------ You'll miss me with effigies ------------------------------ Subject: Re: TMBG: Hello Subscription Message-ID: <19980622.215153.8999.1.captainmarvel2@juno.com> From: captainmarvel2@juno.com (Derek A Klein) Date: Mon, 22 Jun 1998 21:52:46 EDT Hey, does anyone out there know how long it usually takes for a Hello subscription to arrive? My friend ordered one, and it took over 5 months for him to get it. I was wondering if this is the average amount of time it takes, or if his was a special case. Thanks. Derek "Egad, a base tone denotes a bad age" _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Message-ID: <358F1527.38B1E765@ix.netcom.com> Date: Mon, 22 Jun 1998 22:38:39 -0400 From: Amanda Nichols Organization: WECB Subject: Re: TMBG: Joshua Fried rantings > << That "monotonous" music is in a postmodern audio bit. > > "Postmodern" is a remarkably stupid word that people use to make crap sound > like it can pass for "artistic." Just because somebody bothered to do it > doesn't make it good, and my idea of "good" isn't taking tracks of music > someone else recorded and looping them endlessly, and yes, monotonously. I suggest you take a listen to Phillip Glass and then some Beethoven. Both were (and Glass still is) unpopular with those who considered themselves fans of music for doing things "too different" from the norm. I also suggest you look up postmodernism as art form and read the book "Anger is An Energy." Perhaps you'll have a better feel for postmodernism afterwards. You must keep in mind that before one can break the rules (in your case, looping pre-existing music), you must know what they are and have worked within them. You're also confusing the term "postmodern" with "pop art." Pop art is part of postmodernism, but is not a representative of the whole. Music like TMBG's, Soul Coughing and even Ben Folds Five are postmodern, no matter how you try to justify an agrument that they are not. > However, this doesn't mean that any of you aren't allowed to like it, so like > it. Just be aware that most people with a decent sence of what makes music > good would agree that today's frequent "sampling" of songs is a really > pathetic method of 'artistic expression. You know, condescenion is not a good way to make friends. There are many people who "mix" (AKA DJ) at parties and clubs, etc... and guess what they do? You guessed it, they take pre-existing music, loop it and change the original sound into something unique. The point is not to make your own creation (as Puff DAddy seems to want to do), but to take a familiar piece and change it publicly for a new outlook on it. It doesn't matter if you like it, or even what your views are. What matters is that you listen for a few minutes to something different and, like it or hate it, you leave knowing that you were exposed to something new. I also suggest that if you feel so strongly about the job Joshua did years ago remixing the song (in analogue), tell him that to his face. He reads the list, you know. Amanda Nichols ------------------------------ Subject: Re: TMBG: The Man Message-ID: <19980622.230559.9039.1.captainmarvel2@juno.com> From: captainmarvel2@juno.com (Derek A Klein) Date: Mon, 22 Jun 1998 23:06:56 EDT >Yeah. That was me. I'm glad to see that soemone actually reads my posts. The >store is called Bi-Mart. It's a Northwest thing. They're only in Oregon and >Washington. I'll see if they still have them, and if they do I'll score you one. Hey. I'm just wondering if you've found out if they have the bags over there at the Bi-Mart. Thanks. Derek "Egad, a base tone denotes a bad age" _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ From: Monotreme3@aol.com Message-ID: <81d1bd7b.358f2309@aol.com> Date: Mon, 22 Jun 1998 23:37:44 EDT Subject: NON-TMBG: Postmodernism, Art, and Puff Daddy Yes, I did put Puff Daddy in the same sentence as art. Frankly, the all too common, and quite frightening hatred of Puff Daddy by anyone who doesn't like his music annoys me a little. What Puff Daddy does is loved and respected by millions of people. Sure, just because it's massive doesn't make it right. But the fact is, it is right. Why? Because there are only two ways that art can ever be determined. Either personally, or through a general consensus of a large group of people. Either way, what Puff Daddy does is art. An entire society will never agree, and the choices about what is truly good, although made by everyone, are usually decided in the end by groups. Not everyone has a say, but just groups of people who agree. One group can say TMBG is great and artistic, another will say it's Puff Daddy. To say that what Puff Daddy does can't be called art or original is to simply utter a falsehood. Personally however, I would say that art is chosen personally. And by this rationale, what Puff Daddy is doing is artistic because *he* says it is. And yes, this will start a long debate on what art is, I'm sure, but a long debate about what art is is good sometimes. My friend Ryan and I kept one up for a couple days. And my art class last quarter spent an entire critique period on one. Also, postmodernism is a perfectly valid form of art. I don't like it... and obviously the person that said it wasn't art doesn't either. But it's still art. In my opinion. But see, my opinion is the easiest. I say the artist decides. But to say that people (this is more than one person, i.e. a group) can have a "decent sense of what makes music good" means that it is society that chooses what is art. And society (not everyone, but still society) has chosen postmodernism as a valid form of art. So, next time you want to argue about what is art, think about what you're saying. I mean... you fell for one of the classic blunders! The most famous is never get involved in a land war in Asia! But only *slightly* less well known is this: never go in against a Sicilian... when *death* is on the line! Ah ha ha ha! Ah ha ha hah ahah! Aha haha... (thump) Hi, this is Chad. Um... Carey kind of died just now, so I'm gonna close up this e-mail and sign it with his name. I mean, he wrote most of it. So, um, yeah. I guess that's it. Bye, bye.... -Carey P.S. -Chad (well, I had to take some credit, right?) ------------------------------ Message-ID: <19980623033904.5240.rocketmail@web4.rocketmail.com> Date: Mon, 22 Jun 1998 20:39:04 -0700 (PDT) From: Danielle Gaither Subject: Re: TMBG: Joshua Fried rantings First of all: San Antonio, Texas 78240 There. ---Amanda Nichols wrote: > > > > > << That "monotonous" music is in a postmodern audio bit. > > > > "Postmodern" is a remarkably stupid word that people use to make crap sound > > like it can pass for "artistic." Just because somebody bothered to do it > > doesn't make it good, and my idea of "good" isn't taking tracks of music > > someone else recorded and looping them endlessly, and yes, monotonously. Perhaps, but remixes usually aren't intended to just be listened to and absorbed. > I suggest you take a listen to Phillip Glass and then some Beethoven. Both were > (and Glass still is) unpopular with those who considered themselves fans of music > for doing things "too different" from the norm. I also suggest you look up > postmodernism as art form and read the book "Anger is An Energy." Perhaps you'll > have a better feel for postmodernism afterwards. You must keep in mind that > before one can break the rules (in your case, looping pre-existing music), you > must know what they are and have worked within them. You're also confusing the > term "postmodern" with "pop art." Pop art is part of postmodernism, but is not a > representative of the whole. Music like TMBG's, Soul Coughing and even Ben Folds > Five are postmodern, no matter how you try to justify an agrument that they are > not. Lots of people do use the term postmodern without really knowing what it means. Now that I've taken an art history class, I think I have a pretty good handle on the term. I would suggest anyone with an interest read up on it, as they can probably explain it better than I can. I do have to say I'm not a big fan of Phillip Glass. His stuff puts me to sleep. Then again, I've noticed my tastes have shifted ever-so-slightly since I've returned from Germany; perhaps I just need to give it another listen. > > However, this doesn't mean that any of you aren't allowed to like it, so like > > it. Just be aware that most people with a decent sence of what makes music > > good would agree that today's frequent "sampling" of songs is a really > > pathetic method of 'artistic expression. Have you heard Puff Daddy's latest atrocity? Led Zeppelin's "Kashmir." Frightening. > You know, condescenion is not a good way to make friends. There are many Hear, hear! Disagreement can be expressed in a much more civil manner. > people > who "mix" (AKA DJ) at parties and clubs, etc... and guess what they do? You > guessed it, they take pre-existing music, loop it and change the original sound > into something unique. The point is not to make your own creation (as Puff DAddy > seems to want to do), but to take a familiar piece and change it publicly for a > new outlook on it. It doesn't matter if you like it, or even what your views > are. What matters is that you listen for a few minutes to something different > and, like it or hate it, you leave knowing that you were exposed to something > new. That's true. While the remix in question isn't one of my favorites, I do appreciate the talent and effort required to do something like that. As I said earlier, remixes often have different purposes than ordinary songs. Also, I'm not usually into remixes in general, so I'm probably not the best person to ask on the subject. BTW, "Puff Daddy" and "own creation" should not be used in the same sentence unless you're discussing oxymorons. Even if he does give credit to the people he rips off, it doesn't absolve him from an apparent total lack of creativity. > I also suggest that if you feel so strongly about the job Joshua did years ago > remixing the song (in analogue), tell him that to his face. He reads the list, > you know. > Amanda Nichols Well said. Danielle, inspector over the mine === URL: http://www.geocities.com/CollegePark/1054/index.html "Remember me? I'm not married, I don't have any kids, and I'd blow your head off if someone paid me enough." --from _Grosse Pointe Blank_ _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Message-ID: <358F2AAF.489D1041@tmbg.org> Date: Tue, 23 Jun 1998 00:10:24 -0400 From: "Johann D. Beheader" Organization: Dissipating Planets, Inc. Subject: TMBG: my place.... Meriden Connecticut 06450 ------------------------------ Message-Id: Date: Tue, 23 Jun 98 00:21 EDT From: kbrodbec@remcen.ehhs.cmich.edu (Kirsten Brodbeck) Subject: Re: NON-TMBG: Postmodernism, Art, and Puff Daddy > Personally however, I would say that art is chosen personally. And by this >rationale, what Puff Daddy is doing is artistic because *he* says it is. By that token, however, can't we decide what he's not doing *isn't* art, because we don't consider it so? If art is personally determined, then what everybody does it his own business, and um, yeah, I should just shut up now... ;) Kirsten -- [][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][] "And she said losing love is like a window in your heart Everybody sees you're blown apart..." - Paul Simon "Graceland" Kirsten Brodbeck AKA Crow kbrodbec@remcen.ehhs.cmich.edu ------------------------------ From: Monotreme3@aol.com Message-ID: <58e14d2c.358f3085@aol.com> Date: Tue, 23 Jun 1998 00:35:15 EDT Subject: Fwd: NON-TMBG: Postmodernism, Art, and Puff Daddy Oops, meant to send this straight to the list... either way, though. Either way. [Attachment omitted, unknown MIME type or encoding (message/rfc822)] Amanda Nichols wrote: Joshua is a producer and composer who's done tons and tons of interesting work with many varied artists. Does anyone know of the names of any albums worked on or by Joshua Fried? I love his work and would like to here other music buy him. From owner-tmbg-list@tmbg.org Tue Jun 23 01:38:26 1998 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by ussenterprise.ufp.org (8.8.8/8.8.7) id BAA14643 for tmbg-list-outgoing; Tue, 23 Jun 1998 01:38:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from remcen.ehhs.cmich.edu (root@remcen.ehhs.cmich.edu [141.209.92.15]) by ussenterprise.ufp.org (8.8.8/8.8.7) with SMTP id BAA14632 for ; Tue, 23 Jun 1998 01:38:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: by remcen.ehhs.cmich.edu (Smail3.1.29.1 #2) id m0yoLmh-001JXgC; Tue, 23 Jun 98 01:38 EDT Message-Id: Date: Tue, 23 Jun 98 01:38 EDT From: kbrodbec@remcen.ehhs.cmich.edu (Kirsten Brodbeck) To: tmbg-list@tmbg.org Subject: Re: Fwd: NON-TMBG: Postmodernism, Art, and Puff Daddy Sender: owner-tmbg-list@tmbg.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kbrodbec@remcen.ehhs.cmich.edu (Kirsten Brodbeck) >When I say "personally" I mean what I said later in that post which is that >the *artist* decides whether what he's doing is art or not. He could say it is >and you could disagree, yes. But that doesn't mean it's not art. Oh, I know, and I really do agree with you. I was just playing Devil's Advocate, and also hoping there was some way we could just decide that Puff Daddy isn't an artist. ;) And that's all there is, right? >Individualism... it's the wave of the future. And the past. And everything in >between. Here, here! Kirsten ("Conform, go mad, or become an artist!") -- [][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][] "And she said losing love is like a window in your heart Everybody sees you're blown apart..." - Paul Simon "Graceland" Kirsten Brodbeck AKA Crow kbrodbec@remcen.ehhs.cmich.edu From owner-tmbg-list@tmbg.org Tue Jun 23 02:18:27 1998 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by ussenterprise.ufp.org (8.8.8/8.8.7) id CAA17220 for tmbg-list-outgoing; Tue, 23 Jun 1998 02:18:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.stlnet.com (root@mail.stlnet.com [209.96.6.16]) by ussenterprise.ufp.org (8.8.8/8.8.7) with ESMTP id CAA17211 for ; Tue, 23 Jun 1998 02:18:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 209.96.72.201 (MOTNT06-201.stlnet.com [209.96.72.201]) by mail.stlnet.com (8.9.0/8.9.0) with SMTP id BAA09325 for ; Tue, 23 Jun 1998 01:18:21 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <358F58AA.4318@stlnet.com> Date: Tue, 23 Jun 1998 01:26:44 -0600 From: Lynne X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.02 (Macintosh; I; 68K) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: TMBG Mailing List Subject: Non-TMBG: Resident Evil Movie Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-tmbg-list@tmbg.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: Lynne Hey. Yeah, they are making a movie, and here is what I know of it. Sorry for this. I lost the original mail, and didn't know who asked of this... honestly I am sorry, guys. Sorry for such a long one too, but I am a DIE-HARD Playstation freak. The story is written Alan McElroy... the same guy who wrote the Spawn movie. The film's current form is ultra-violent. It will be interesting to see whether it's toned down for a PG-13 rating, or if the director will go for an R. It is also weird that there is no mention of the S.T.A.R.S. team or Umbrella Corp.. WARNING: IF YOU DON'T WANT TO KNOW MOST OF THE SCREENPLAY, DON'T READ! WARNING: IF YOU DON'T WANT TO KNOW MOST OF THE SCREENPLAY, DON'T READ! Well, here goes! It starts off in the Raccoon Forest, where animals are mutilating campers and park rangers. A SWAT team is sent in and are killed. Wesker(who is in an asylum for some unexplained reason) is recruited by the government to break into a lab in the forest to rescue scientists. Wesker recruits Barry(the all-around military expert), Chris(combat expert), Jill(munitions expert) and Brad(the Medic). However, Brad is actually an imposter named Mike who is trying to find his girlfriend Becky, who was on the original SWAT team sent into Raccoon Forest. The team sets down in Raccoon forest and is immediately attacked by wild mutated dogs(like in the game.) They run for the lab/mansion and just barely make it alive. They get inside and confront more dogs, giant wasps, tarantulas, and of course, zombies. And the group keeps losing members to each new threat, and ammo runs lower and lower. Eventually they find the scientists they were suppposed to rescue and it turns out that the whole situation was a trap. The trap was to infect them with the T-Virus and then allow them to escape, and spread the virus to the world. Jill and Chris(the only ones still alive) get a hold of the antidote and escape just as the building is exploding, only to be pursued by the Tyrant... who is actually a mutated Wesker. They finally fight the Tyrant, and take the antidote and walk off into the sunset(awww...) Long enough for ya? Like I said, I'm a hardcore gamer, when it comes to the PSX. Chris chrisl@tmbg.org "Save the whales. Collect the whole set." From owner-tmbg-list@tmbg.org Tue Jun 23 02:26:14 1998 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by ussenterprise.ufp.org (8.8.8/8.8.7) id CAA17633 for tmbg-list-outgoing; Tue, 23 Jun 1998 02:26:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.stlnet.com (root@mail.stlnet.com [209.96.6.16]) by ussenterprise.ufp.org (8.8.8/8.8.7) with ESMTP id CAA17533 for ; Tue, 23 Jun 1998 02:26:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 209.96.72.201 (MOTNT06-201.stlnet.com [209.96.72.201]) by mail.stlnet.com (8.9.0/8.9.0) with SMTP id BAA10121 for ; Tue, 23 Jun 1998 01:25:56 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <358F5A70.7F55@stlnet.com> Date: Tue, 23 Jun 1998 01:34:21 -0600 From: Lynne X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.02 (Macintosh; I; 68K) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: TMBG Mailing List Subject: Re: TMBG: Fan Geography Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-tmbg-list@tmbg.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: Lynne Here ya go. St. Louis(Ballwin) Missouri 63011 Just out of curiousity, I lurk and occasionally reply to the person who posted. What does that make me? Chris chrisl@tmbg.org "The mind of the bigot is like the pupil of the eye; the more light you pour upon it, the more it will contract." -Oliver Wendell Holmes From owner-tmbg-list@tmbg.org Tue Jun 23 02:47:11 1998 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by ussenterprise.ufp.org (8.8.8/8.8.7) id CAA18521 for tmbg-list-outgoing; Tue, 23 Jun 1998 02:47:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from express.cec.wustl.edu (express.cec.wustl.edu [128.252.21.16]) by ussenterprise.ufp.org (8.8.8/8.8.7) with ESMTP id CAA18511 for ; Tue, 23 Jun 1998 02:47:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ritz.cec.wustl.edu (wt3@ritz.cec.wustl.edu [128.252.21.2]) by express.cec.wustl.edu (8.8.5/CTS-JEK1.2) with ESMTP id BAA08548; Tue, 23 Jun 1998 01:43:48 -0500 (CDT) Received: from localhost (wt3@localhost) by ritz.cec.wustl.edu (8.8.5/CTS-JEK1.2) with SMTP id BAA28001; Tue, 23 Jun 1998 01:43:44 -0500 (CDT) X-Authentication-Warning: ritz.cec.wustl.edu: wt3 owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 23 Jun 1998 01:43:43 -0500 (CDT) From: Bill Tatalovich To: J Kuemmerle cc: The TMBG Mailing List Subject: Re: TMBG: scat In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-tmbg-list@tmbg.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: Bill Tatalovich > my personal take on the issue (which i forgot when i wrote my last bunch > of scat) is that scat's greatest practitioner is currently bobby mcferrin. Currently, I would say Jim's right. Bobby Mcferrin is a great vocalist. In fact, I can't think of any other people who are any good at scat nowadays... > > np: Miles Davis--Birth of the Cool > > i'll go home and put that on my stereo right now as a show of solidarity. There you go, brother! Power to the people! Bill Tatalovich wt3@cec.wustl.edu personnel@kwur.wustl.edu np: Jesus and Mary Chain--Munki (ah....back to the old JAMC sound) From owner-tmbg-list@tmbg.org Tue Jun 23 02:50:54 1998 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by ussenterprise.ufp.org (8.8.8/8.8.7) id CAA18726 for tmbg-list-outgoing; Tue, 23 Jun 1998 02:50:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from express.cec.wustl.edu (express.cec.wustl.edu [128.252.21.16]) by ussenterprise.ufp.org (8.8.8/8.8.7) with ESMTP id CAA18717 for ; Tue, 23 Jun 1998 02:50:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ritz.cec.wustl.edu (wt3@ritz.cec.wustl.edu [128.252.21.2]) by express.cec.wustl.edu (8.8.5/CTS-JEK1.2) with ESMTP id BAA08605 for ; Tue, 23 Jun 1998 01:47:31 -0500 (CDT) Received: from localhost (wt3@localhost) by ritz.cec.wustl.edu (8.8.5/CTS-JEK1.2) with SMTP id BAA28805 for ; Tue, 23 Jun 1998 01:47:28 -0500 (CDT) X-Authentication-Warning: ritz.cec.wustl.edu: wt3 owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 23 Jun 1998 01:47:28 -0500 (CDT) From: Bill Tatalovich To: TMBG Subject: Re: TMBG: the whole schools issue / Hello club In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-tmbg-list@tmbg.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: Bill Tatalovich > sorry for taking so long to reply to that one, but in a current high > school experience from two different schools, the one where band is a > class was 10 times larger (not exaggerating) than the extracurricular one. > This, I feel, disproves your theory on the fact that band is a grade > bringing down membership. I didn't say "bringing down membership"...I said that it brings down the apparent quality of the music. When students feel forced to play music well (as in for a grade), many of them do not enjoy it as much. The enjoyment of the performers is highly important in realizing the feeling of the music, which is one of the most important things. Oh, and obviously there's no universal truth here. While in Leonard's case, the extra-curricular band attendance was lower than the class band, at my high school it's perennially the opposite. Food for thought. Bill Tatalovich wt3@cec.wustl.edu personnel@kwur.wustl.edu From owner-tmbg-list@tmbg.org Tue Jun 23 03:49:51 1998 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by ussenterprise.ufp.org (8.8.8/8.8.7) id DAA21468 for tmbg-list-outgoing; Tue, 23 Jun 1998 03:49:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ha1.rdc2.occa.home.com (ha1.rdc2.occa.home.com [24.2.8.66]) by ussenterprise.ufp.org (8.8.8/8.8.7) with ESMTP id DAA21453 for ; Tue, 23 Jun 1998 03:49:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from home.com ([24.1.137.204]) by ha1.rdc2.occa.home.com (Netscape Mail Server v2.02) with ESMTP id AAA3797 for ; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 22:27:54 -0700 Message-ID: <358F3D2E.BAD1DB0A@home.com> Date: Mon, 22 Jun 1998 22:29:20 -0700 From: NICHOLAS JANSSEN Organization: @Home Network X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03C-AtHome0402 (Macintosh; U; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: tmbg-list@tmbg.org Subject: TMBG: TMBG Live In NYC Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-tmbg-list@tmbg.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: NICHOLAS JANSSEN HI I was wondering what the best way was to go about getting the Live In NYC 26 track CD. I also had a thought of (the Live In NYC was sent out to radio stations and to the subscribers of the HELLO CD club) could I get the Live In NYC cd through TMBG.COM because they have a section where you can order back issues of HELLO CD's? http://www.tmbg.com/catalog/hello.html Is it worth the $160 bucks for the HELLO CD's From owner-tmbg-list@tmbg.org Tue Jun 23 03:49:52 1998 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by ussenterprise.ufp.org (8.8.8/8.8.7) id DAA21480 for tmbg-list-outgoing; Tue, 23 Jun 1998 03:49:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ha1.rdc2.occa.home.com (ha1.rdc2.occa.home.com [24.2.8.66]) by ussenterprise.ufp.org (8.8.8/8.8.7) with ESMTP id DAA21459 for ; Tue, 23 Jun 1998 03:49:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from home.com ([24.1.137.204]) by ha1.rdc2.occa.home.com (Netscape Mail Server v2.02) with ESMTP id AAA16166 for ; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 22:49:39 -0700 Message-ID: <358F4247.F446B9C@home.com> Date: Mon, 22 Jun 1998 22:51:07 -0700 From: NICHOLAS JANSSEN Organization: @Home Network X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03C-AtHome0402 (Macintosh; U; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: tmbg-list@tmbg.org Subject: Re: Fwd: NON-TMBG: Postmodernism, Art and Puff Daddy References: <58e14d2c.358f3085@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-tmbg-list@tmbg.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: NICHOLAS JANSSEN To figure out if Puff Daddy or any other suspected art is art, me must first define the word art. Once we have agreed on the premises (the definition), then we can pass judgment on the conclusion (Puff Daddy is art) From owner-tmbg-list@tmbg.org Tue Jun 23 05:30:41 1998 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by ussenterprise.ufp.org (8.8.8/8.8.7) id FAA25828 for tmbg-list-outgoing; Tue, 23 Jun 1998 05:30:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from relay1.mail.uk.psi.net (relay1.mail.uk.psi.net [154.32.105.6]) by ussenterprise.ufp.org (8.8.8/8.8.7) with SMTP id FAA25819 for ; Tue, 23 Jun 1998 05:30:36 -0400 (EDT) From: rhilton@bitc.org.uk Received: from uucp1.mail.uk.psi.net (sys4.cambridge.uk.psi.net) [154.32.105.26] by relay1.mail.uk.psi.net with esmtp (Exim 1.82 #2) id 0yoPPM-0004Jp-01; Tue, 23 Jun 1998 10:30:32 +0100 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by sys4.cambridge.uk.psi.net (8.8.5/) with UUCP id KAA21300 for tmbg-list@tmbg.org; Tue, 23 Jun 1998 10:20:23 +0100 (BST) Message-Id: Date: Tue, 23 Jun 1998 10:05:34 +0000 To: tmbg-list@tmbg.org Subject: Re: TMBG: Joshua Fried rantings -Reply MIME-version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Mailer: TFS Gateway /222000000/222050737/222002760/222100525/ Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by ussenterprise.ufp.org id FAA25820 Sender: owner-tmbg-list@tmbg.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rhilton@bitc.org.uk My understanding was that 'every breath' was written by Sting about his wife just after they had broken up and he was trying to come to terms with this. Go back and listen to the original with this in mind and it really isn't that romantic and is rather spooky - maybe puff daddy had it right after all. Richard please, don't compare tmbg, even joshua fried to puff daddy. they sampled the police and ruined the theme of the song. i.e., every breath you take is quite romantic sounding but it's got this creepy obsessive feel to it also. From owner-tmbg-list@tmbg.org Tue Jun 23 08:41:56 1998 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by ussenterprise.ufp.org (8.8.8/8.8.7) id IAA03910 for tmbg-list-outgoing; Tue, 23 Jun 1998 08:41:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from soli.inav.net (soli.inav.net [199.120.107.103]) by ussenterprise.ufp.org (8.8.8/8.8.7) with ESMTP id IAA03901 for ; Tue, 23 Jun 1998 08:41:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (robin@localhost) by soli.inav.net (8.8.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id HAA19850; Tue, 23 Jun 1998 07:41:47 -0500 Date: Tue, 23 Jun 1998 07:41:46 -0500 (CDT) From: Robin To: rhilton@bitc.org.uk cc: tmbg-list@tmbg.org Subject: TMBG: Mono Who? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-tmbg-list@tmbg.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: Robin ok, just to show how naieve i really am (and myhorrible spelling skills) who is this mono puff? and why do they keep showing up side by side with tmbg? Just curious Robin From owner-tmbg-list@tmbg.org Tue Jun 23 08:51:14 1998 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by ussenterprise.ufp.org (8.8.8/8.8.7) id IAA04389 for tmbg-list-outgoing; Tue, 23 Jun 1998 08:51:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from dmswebworks.com (simper.dmswebworks.com [208.153.182.15]) by ussenterprise.ufp.org (8.8.8/8.8.7) with ESMTP id IAA04380 for ; Tue, 23 Jun 1998 08:51:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [208.153.182.151] by dmswebworks.com with ESMTP (Eudora Internet Mail Server 2.0); Tue, 23 Jun 1998 07:50:31 -0500 X-Sender: ja0022@pop.drake.edu Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 23 Jun 1998 07:50:33 -0600 To: tmbg-list@tmbg.org From: The Pope Subject: Re: TMBG: Mono Who? Sender: owner-tmbg-list@tmbg.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: The Pope At 7:41 AM -0500 6/23/98, Robin wrote: >ok, just to show how naieve i really am (and myhorrible spelling skills) >who is this mono puff? and why do they keep showing up side by side with >tmbg? > >Just curious >Robin Mono Puff is John Flansburg's other band minus Linell which is why it is tied with TMBG. I believe it's now called John Flansburg's Mono Puff Syndicate or something like that someone please correct me if I'm wrong. Jason "the other white meat" Arnold http://jason.dmswebworks.com/jarnold ICQ: #4703178 ------------------------------ End of tmbg-list Digest #7-24 *****************************