Errors-To: owner-tmbg-digest@tmbg.org Reply-To: tmbg-digest@tmbg.org Sender: owner-tmbg-digest@tmbg.org Precedence: bulk From: owner-tmbg-digest@tmbg.org To: tmbg-digest@tmbg.org Subject: tmbg-list Digest #7-30 tmbg-list Digest, Volume 7, Number 30 Tuesday, 30 June 1998 Today's Topics: nonTMBG: Time Heals All Wounds Re: 1/3 TMBG: Happy Post (much needed) Re: nonTMBG: Time Heals All Wounds Re: TMBG: Dirty Three Re: nonTMBG: Howard the Duck Re: nonTMBG: Howard the Duck TMBG: Jeez... Re: nonTMBG: Howard the Duck Really NON TMBG: Hate TMBG: my interview with the johns Re: Really NON TMBG: Hate Re: Really NON TMBG: Hate Re: Really NON TMBG: Hate TMBG: Another Man Sighting Re: Really NON TMBG: Hate Re: Really NON TMBG: Hate Re: Really NON TMBG: Hate Non-TMBG: Hate Re: Non-TMBG: Hate TMBG: TMBG fans unite... form of an ape, form of..... TMBG: You can always hit delete. Re: 1/3 TMBG: Happy Post (much needed) Re: Really NON TMBG: Hate TMBG: new old thread: OMLT's Re: TMBG: Dirty Three Re: Really NON TMBG: Hate TMBG: Gencon, non-TMBG moxy Re: TMBG: new old thread: OMLT's TMBG: hmm... Re: TMBG: hmm... Re: Non-TMBG: new old thread: OMLT's Re: TMBG: Gencon, non-TMBG moxy Re: TMBG: Dirty Three Re: TMBG: TMBG fans unite... form of an ape, form of..... TMBG: *non*-tmbg: Kicking People off of the list Re: TMBG: new old thread: OMLT's Re: TMBG: *non*-tmbg: Kicking People off of the list TMBG: Re: top 100 flicks poll Re: TMBG: new old thread: OMLT's TMBG: Enough Non-TMBG Crap! TMBG: Non TMBG posts and kicking people of the list Re: TMBG: Re: top 100 flicks poll Re: Really NON TMBG: Hate Re: Really NON TMBG: Hate Re: Really NON TMBG: Hate Re: TMBG: TMBG fans unite... form of an ape, form of..... Re: Really NON TMBG: Hate Re: TMBG: Enough Non-TMBG Crap! Re: Really NON TMBG: Hate Re: Really NON TMBG: Hate Administrivia: If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing send mail to tmbg-digest-request@tmbg.org for instructions on how to be automatically removed. --------------------------------------------------------------------- The views expressed herein are those of the individual authors. --------------------------------------------------------------------- tmbg-list is digested with Digest 3.5b (John Relph ). ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: nonTMBG: Time Heals All Wounds Message-ID: <19980626.160101.4687.1.winningh@juno.com> From: winningh@juno.com (Winningham S. Sarah) Date: Sat, 27 Jun 1998 15:59:31 EDT I nominate Chris Feeny Campbell for most improved listie. Sarah "Scared of the nudie magazine fold-out in the beginning of Howard the Duck" Winningham _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Message-Id: Date: Sat, 27 Jun 98 16:01 EDT From: kbrodbec@remcen.ehhs.cmich.edu (Kirsten Brodbeck) Subject: Re: 1/3 TMBG: Happy Post (much needed) #2 isn't Arthur >british? I don't want it to be screwed up to make it "viewable" for americans. As much as I'd like to hope, I'm not expecting a British film here. I expect exactly how British it is depends on how much creative control Adams gets - if you read the foreword in the graphic novelization, Adams is incredibly picky about his creation, and if he has his way I expect the film'll be quite true to the novel. However, no matter now much control he has, this is definitely going to be a different incarnation of the Guide than the BBC films were. Maybe it'll be more American. Maybe this'll be a bad thing, maybe not.. Kirsten -- [][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][] "And she said losing love is like a window in your heart Everybody sees you're blown apart..." - Paul Simon "Graceland" Kirsten Brodbeck AKA Crow kbrodbec@remcen.ehhs.cmich.edu ------------------------------ Message-Id: <1.5.4.32.19980627200244.006d8e38@cybnetonline.com> Date: Sat, 27 Jun 1998 15:02:44 -0500 From: "The Li'l Depressed Boy" Subject: Re: nonTMBG: Time Heals All Wounds >Sarah "Scared of the nudie magazine fold-out in the beginning of Howard >the Duck" Winningham Wow someone mentioned HTD, and it wasn't me. Well for this occasion I gotta quote the film now: "On my planet we don't say Die, we say KILL!" LDB -- (this site cuts the amount of URL's I put in my Sig) My Web Page Index: http://www.cybnetonline.com/users/njack/ TMBG | D.U.M.B. NEWS | Mr. Gone Font -- Contemporary Cartoon Militia is (C) & TM 1998 S. Steven Struble and Kris W. M. Struble. The Li'l Depressed Boy, Phreeck, Spyder Hunt, and all related characters (C) & TM 1998 S. Steven Struble ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 27 Jun 1998 15:05:38 -0500 (CDT) From: Bill Tatalovich Subject: Re: TMBG: Dirty Three Message-ID: On Sat, 27 Jun 1998, Mike Mcguire wrote: > Has anyone out there heard of the band Dirty Three? I just bought one > of their albums (Horse Stories) and I'm listening to it for the first > time right now, and it's really really good. Just curious to see if > there's anyone else out there. First off, let me say that I keep mistaking "Mike Mcguire" for "Mark Mcguire", and I keep thinking Mike's some crazed Cardinals fan or something. Anyway, I heard the Dirty Three when I saw them in concert (they played with Versus, Calexico, and Flin Flon...yummy lineup), and I was very impressed. I'm just a sucker for instrumental music that actually does something (hence my like for Pell Mell, Tortoise, and the new Tuatara album, which I'm listening to right now). So I'll concur with Mike and say that the Dirty Three is a great band...one that is definitely worth listening to. |~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| | Reverend Bill Tatalovich | | | | wt3@cec.wustl.edu | | personnel@kwur.wustl.edu | | | | Visit feedback for toddlers! | | http://students.cec.wustl.edu/~wt3/ | ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 27 Jun 1998 15:08:13 -0500 (CDT) From: Bill Tatalovich Subject: Re: nonTMBG: Howard the Duck Message-ID: On Sat, 27 Jun 1998, Winningham S. Sarah wrote: > Sarah "Scared of the nudie magazine fold-out in the beginning of Howard > the Duck" Winningham Ouch. Bill "scared of Howard the Duck in general, and amazed that people actually know lines from that movie" Tatalovich |~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| | Reverend Bill Tatalovich | | | | wt3@cec.wustl.edu | | personnel@kwur.wustl.edu | | | | Visit feedback for toddlers! | | http://students.cec.wustl.edu/~wt3/ | ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------ Message-Id: <1.5.4.32.19980627201304.006d06f0@cybnetonline.com> Date: Sat, 27 Jun 1998 15:13:04 -0500 From: "The Li'l Depressed Boy" Subject: Re: nonTMBG: Howard the Duck At 03:08 PM 6/27/98 -0500, Bill Tatalovich wrote: > >On Sat, 27 Jun 1998, Winningham S. Sarah wrote: > >> Sarah "Scared of the nudie magazine fold-out in the beginning of Howard >> the Duck" Winningham > >Ouch. > >Bill "scared of Howard the Duck in general, and amazed that people >actually know lines from that movie" Tatalovich > I'm not really a big HTD the movie fan. BUt I am a huge HTD the comic fan, so I do like the movie. LDB -- (this site cuts the amount of URL's I put in my Sig) My Web Page Index: http://www.cybnetonline.com/users/njack/ TMBG | D.U.M.B. NEWS | Mr. Gone Font -- Contemporary Cartoon Militia is (C) & TM 1998 S. Steven Struble and Kris W. M. Struble. The Li'l Depressed Boy, Phreeck, Spyder Hunt, and all related characters (C) & TM 1998 S. Steven Struble ------------------------------ Message-ID: <000c01bda211$0867b540$a22c3ccc@blatz> From: "Johann D. Beheader" Subject: TMBG: Jeez... Date: Sat, 27 Jun 1998 17:17:44 -0400 Oh, sorry. I meant to say that people who keep repeating things that most allready know should read the FAQ. Sorry about the confusion. I'm a little confused myself. Ummm yeah that's it. -fred P.S. sorry for clogging the list.... and General Tsao's Beancurd is GOOD! -----Original Message----- From: DrWormX@aol.com To: MrBlender@tmbg.org ; tmbg-list@tmbg.org Date: Saturday, June 27, 1998 1:28 Evening Subject: Re: Fw: TMBG: Jeez... >I still don't know what this has to do with the FAQ... > >Matt --? >You're really alive when you wish you were dead. And there isn't a god, or a >heaven or hell, life's a little old apple and a William Tell ------------------------------ Message-Id: <3.0.2.32.19980627224334.007d2db0@mail-in.keme.net> Date: Sat, 27 Jun 1998 22:43:34 +0100 From: the famous Uncle Squid Subject: Re: nonTMBG: Howard the Duck At 15:13 27/06/98 -0500, you wrote: >At 03:08 PM 6/27/98 -0500, Bill Tatalovich wrote: >> >>On Sat, 27 Jun 1998, Winningham S. Sarah wrote: >> >>> Sarah "Scared of the nudie magazine fold-out in the beginning of Howard >>> the Duck" Winningham >> >>Ouch. >> >>Bill "scared of Howard the Duck in general, and amazed that people >>actually know lines from that movie" Tatalovich >> >I'm not really a big HTD the movie fan. BUt I am a huge HTD the comic fan, >so I do like the movie. I think it is time for a sing-a-long... "Howard, the duck, no way to conceil it..." - Cherrybomb (were they a real band or just made up for the film do ya think?) -- USQ (Uncle "scared of the Dark Overlords" Squid) ~THE ELLESLEYS~ (of Colchester-Essex-UK) Home Page: Http://www.keme.co.uk/~thelimes/trendsetting.html TMBG page: Http://members.xoom.com/uncle_squid/Xoom/ <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> "Weird? I think describing me as weird is a bit strong. Cut the chatta, get back down the mine and find me some custard to have with my breakfast" --Uncle Squid <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> ------------------------------ Message-Id: <199806272208.SAA28651@ussenterprise.ufp.org> Date: Sat, 27 Jun 1998 17:08:39 -0500 From: Mitchell Harding Subject: Really NON TMBG: Hate At 12:03 PM 6/27/98 -0700, you wrote: >I recently had a bit of a debate with a friend that left me extremely >interested, and I thought that I would mail the list, and see what you >guys think, being smart people all of you. The debate was whether or not >in a community where hate was never introduced, do you think that hate >would stem, and why? If you don't want to respond given the Non TMBG >subject line, don't, but I am curious to see what the general populace >thinks about this. Thank you Of course it would. Do you think some aliens came down to earth and gave it to humans? Where do you think it came from? Humans naturally hate. Harf, Mitcharf ------------------------------ From: tmbgirl@juno.com Date: Sat, 27 Jun 1998 17:24:18 -0600 Subject: TMBG: my interview with the johns Message-ID: <19980627.172458.16254.16.TMBgirl@juno.com> hEY hEy! so after this long week i was finally able to get some sleep... and well, i had a TMBG related dream... the john's were on Modern Rock Live and i got through but there was no one screening the calls... i just got to ask them my one question right there on the spot. So the only thing i can come up with is (in a valley girl voice i've never heard myself speak in) "hi, do you guys have any siblings that are musicians? cuz, like, i heard this song 'brother john' about 'are you sleeping' or something and was wondering if it was about you guys." oh geez... i amuse myself. lalala frere jacques lalala :) the sad thing is that i would love to do that... just to get their reaction. reminds me of when save ferris was on a few months ago... ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: take it easy, JOrdaN http://www2.netcom.com/~arnot/joda/bootlegs.html Last Indie films seen: Kurt And Courtney Opposite of Sex ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 27 Jun 1998 19:19:45 -0700 (PDT) From: leonard helfgott Subject: Re: Really NON TMBG: Hate Message-ID: I would say that it is kind of human nature, but that's only because of the environment that the human being evolved into. In the time of the first humans, to trust dramatically decreased your chances of survival, so it became human nature not to trust, but given a community where everyone had everything that they needed, a "perfect" community, I think that it might be possible to keep hate out of it. Jon Helfgott ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 27 Jun 1998 19:21:56 -0700 (PDT) From: leonard helfgott Subject: Re: Really NON TMBG: Hate Message-ID: Yes, but that's largely because of the society that we are brought up in. Not meaning to throw my personal politics into the line, but I think that jealousy is an emotion stemming from a capitalist society, and if the community where everyone had all that they needed, nothing more, nothing less, I don't think that hatred would stem. Jon Helfgott On Sat, 27 Jun 1998, jays your one-paged dictionary wrote: > leonard helfgott wrote: > > > > I recently had a bit of a debate with a friend that left me extremely > > interested, and I thought that I would mail the list, and see what you > > guys think, being smart people all of you. The debate was whether or not > > in a community where hate was never introduced, do you think that hate > > would stem, and why? If you don't want to respond given the Non TMBG > > subject line, don't, but I am curious to see what the general populace > > thinks about this. Thank you > > jon Helfgott > > hate as an idea is not introduced until a point after which we have felt > it--chilren feel hatred for others that scorn them, or who are less than > they, or who have what they do not long before they can put words to > what they experience. it is human nature to completely clash with an > idea, to experience burning jealousy, just not to get along; all things > stem from hate, and nothing can control that. it's brain chemistry, > just as is love and caring. > > ie, they will soon realize hatred's existence. before the dawn of > civilzation, hatred was present, and as the last human dies an old > wrinkled bag of bones he will hold hatred for something. > > peace, love, and good happiness stuff, > > jay. > -- > jayhc, christopher parkening's satanic heir. > > e-mail: sirjamez@fuse.net, phonebook@tmbg.org > aol im: SaturnChrd, PhoneBookJ > irc: PhoneBook > > "and sadly the cross-eyed bear's been > put to sleep behind the stairs, > and his shoes are laced with irony." > > --tmbg > > "Hey, some people take drugs and some people like to have sex all > day, I like to watch my bees as I make music, so what." > > --steve vai > > -- > ------------------------------ Message-ID: <000c01bda240$5fe82d20$f58d00cf@cpdog.rma.edu> From: "Tim Clark" Subject: Re: Really NON TMBG: Hate Date: Sat, 27 Jun 1998 22:56:37 -0400 >Yes, but that's largely because of the society that we are brought up in. >Not meaning to throw my personal politics into the line, but I think that >jealousy is an emotion stemming from a capitalist society, and if the >community where everyone had all that they needed, nothing more, nothing >less, I don't think that hatred would stem. I.E. Communism. That has always worked really well in the past. ------------------------------ From: KdsInThHal@aol.com Message-ID: <131888e0.3595b887@aol.com> Date: Sat, 27 Jun 1998 23:29:09 EDT Subject: TMBG: Another Man Sighting LOL! http://www.geocities.com/SouthBeach/Marina/5920/Wednesday.html *sarah ------------------------------ Message-ID: <3595E787.6CE6@fuse.net> Date: Sat, 27 Jun 1998 23:49:43 -0700 From: jays your one-paged dictionary Organization: dial-a-song! 718-387-6962, narrrrrrrrr! Subject: Re: Really NON TMBG: Hate leonard helfgott wrote: > > Yes, but that's largely because of the society that we are brought up in. > Not meaning to throw my personal politics into the line, but I think that > jealousy is an emotion stemming from a capitalist society, and if the > community where everyone had all that they needed, nothing more, nothing > less, I don't think that hatred would stem. > Jon Helfgott > there is a place at which our thinking differs--we still, according to marx' manifesto, have a few notches of evolution left before true communism is possible. right now, it is my educated opinion that, despite being brought up in a totally communal society, people will still want, and want is just an extension of need ... think about that. jealousy isn't just a monetary thing. we as humans do have a set, physcologically stable, fairly common view of beauty; those who cannot achieve that beauty will be jealous of those who can. the same thing with music, and the arts, and .. everything. peace, love, and good happiness stuff, jay. -- jayhc--always accurate, constant, and intense. e-mail: sirjamez@fuse.net, phonebook@tmbg.org aol im: SaturnChrd, PhoneBookJ irc: PhoneBook "and sadly the cross-eyed bear's been put to sleep behind the stairs, and his shoes are laced with irony." --tmbg "Hey, some people take drugs and some people like to have sex all day, I like to watch my bees as I make music, so what." --steve vai -- ------------------------------ From: TerryTMBG@aol.com Message-ID: <64a1e0b3.3595c443@aol.com> Date: Sun, 28 Jun 1998 00:19:14 EDT Subject: Re: Really NON TMBG: Hate >I.E. Communism. That has always worked really well in the past. no, see, that's just it. The only reason Communism did fail in the past is because the people running it were all so selfish that they made it a totalitarian government, or half-assed socialism, or a half-assed socialist totalitarian government. The point is, if everyone were living in happy nice joy land of make-believe, communism would work just fine. and if everyone had everything they wanted/needed, there would be no benefit from hate-induced conflict. so it would stop. people don't hate by nature, it's only because they're taught to do it. -terry- ------------------------------ Message-Id: Date: Sun, 28 Jun 98 00:23 EDT From: kbrodbec@remcen.ehhs.cmich.edu (Kirsten Brodbeck) Subject: Re: Really NON TMBG: Hate people don't hate by nature, it's only because >they're taught to do it. I disagree. Hate comes from anger, and anger comes naturally. Even in a society where all things were equal, people would still get angry about things sometimes, and so hate would come about just the same as it does now. Kirsten -- [][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][] "And she said losing love is like a window in your heart Everybody sees you're blown apart..." - Paul Simon "Graceland" Kirsten Brodbeck AKA Crow kbrodbec@remcen.ehhs.cmich.edu ------------------------------ Message-ID: <003b01bda24c$2ada3680$f58d00cf@cpdog.rma.edu> From: "Tim Clark" Subject: Non-TMBG: Hate Date: Sun, 28 Jun 1998 00:21:03 -0400 Look...its not that hard. We have fallen natures. You can talk all you want about your perfect society, but human nature is not perfect. You could have all the lovey dovey society you want, but one day someone will accidentily trip someone else. And HATE starts. This will probably be the first day. :) ------------------------------ From: TerryTMBG@aol.com Message-ID: <18c32f0.3595ccf7@aol.com> Date: Sun, 28 Jun 1998 00:56:22 EDT Subject: Re: Non-TMBG: Hate yes, I am a loser, so I won't drop the subject, at least until I get bored. I always enjoy being the only one on my side. anyway. using the accidental tripping example, consider this: first person (let's call him John F.) is walking in one direction, and second person (let's call him John L.) walks in a perpendicular direction. neither sees the other, and when they come together, John L. accidentally trips John F. but since this is super happy fun land, it was entirely an accident, and he meant no malice. so he says that. "Oh, sorry, my friend! I didn't mean to trip you!" "No worries. I should have been watching where I was going! I hope they won't be too upset by my muddy jacket at the big presentation I'm putting on today." And of course no one cares, because it's not his fault, and who cares what someone looks like anyway? I'm telling you, the perfect society is going to be fun. If everyone gives me three dollars, I'll give you a magic bean and we can make it happen. anyway, my point is, hate never comes up in this story, because not only is there no reason to, but also no one in the story has ever had the notion that this is an option. I wish I remember who said it, but one of my favorite quotes is "never try to reason a prejudice out of a man. It was not reasoned into him." or something like that. hate is not reasoned into us, so we can't suddenly drop it. but if a person in the hateless society were to come across the idea, s/he would be like, "wtf is this? that makes no sense. let's pull out a big steaming bowl of good will instead." So if you learn anything from my rant, it should be this: paragraphs are a wonderful thing and I should have used them. anything else is your own interpretation. and if it made no sense, I apologize. it makes sense to me :) -terry- ------------------------------ Message-ID: <000701bda2b6$3ac24640$f34f1ecf@default> From: "John Lambert" Subject: TMBG: TMBG fans unite... form of an ape, form of..... Date: Sun, 28 Jun 1998 13:00:16 -0400 a ban on this idiot. Part of the basic rights of any democratic community (all hail President Leo the man that we as members of this mailing list elect to be our leader) is to shun or remove members who do not conform to the rules of the society. Whether by actively breaking the rules, or harming the other members in a physical or mental way. I call upon Leo to remove Josh Buckland from the mailing list. Anyone who is behind me, may second this motion. This guy is messed up in the head and is doing nothing but cause controversy in our group. We as a group range in age from the very young to the not-so-young, but we ALL deserve respect. It has been deemed that yelling "fire" in a crowded theatre is unlawful. Claiming to have killed yourself is not life threatening for anyone other than the proclaimer, yet it could be traumatic to anyone. It is in very bad taste and is a sign of a very disturbed individual. I've been a member of this list for almost 3 years now and I've seen controversy time and time again. ***tips his hat and remembers ruprecht, blue dawg, leffel and others*** I've even been the cause of it ***think "buttknob"*** YET this dude is a mental midget who needs to take a sabbatical from the list. Come back when instead of being a 24 year old who thinks like a 4 year old, you are a MAN who loves They Might Be Giants and can hold act like an adult. We have 12 year olds on this list who act more mature. Stepping down from his soapbox, Brother John Green Jello ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 28 Jun 1998 13:21:54 -0400 (EDT) From: "(*)" Subject: TMBG: You can always hit delete. Message-ID: I have been on this list for about two years, and I rarely post. In fact, I don't read every message. I read those things pertinant to TMBG, and simply delete the other unopened messages. As with most of the people in the world who I encounter and do not like, I generally ignore those messages which upset me. If I picked a battle with every offensive element that came my way I would no time left to enjoy things, such as the fantastic musical stylings of TMBG. As most of the messages here pose no harm, it seems wasteful to spend so much time rallying against another person. We should be putting our energies to other uses. There are a lot of people on this list who have a common love. Instead of focusing on the irritations, we should hit the delete button, and celebrate TMBG. Olivia ------------------------------ From: gray42@juno.com Date: Sun, 28 Jun 1998 12:50:56 -0400 Subject: Re: 1/3 TMBG: Happy Post (much needed) Message-ID: <19980628.131730.9254.0.gray42@juno.com> On Sat, 27 Jun 98 16:01 EDT kbrodbec@remcen.ehhs.cmich.edu (Kirsten Brodbeck) writes: >#2 isn't Arthur >>british? I don't want it to be screwed up to make it "viewable" for >americans. > > As much as I'd like to hope, I'm not expecting a British film >here. I expect exactly how British it is depends on how much creative >control Adams gets - if you read the foreword in the graphic >novelization, Adams is incredibly picky about his creation, and if he >has >his way I expect the film'll be quite true to the novel. > > However, no matter now much control he has, this is definitely >going to be a different incarnation of the Guide than the BBC films >were. >Maybe it'll be more American. Maybe this'll be a bad thing, maybe >not.. > >Kirsten >-- >[][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][] >"And she said losing love is like a window in your heart > Everybody sees you're blown apart..." - Paul Simon "Graceland" >Kirsten Brodbeck AKA Crow kbrodbec@remcen.ehhs.cmich.edu > In my personal hopes and dreams, I hope that it will be like the other forms of the story. A medium they do a great job with and I hope it branches off into different directions like the other mediums did. Like in comparing the book and radio series, the whole Lintilla thing was very good. While at the same time I could not imagine the books to be any other way. As for Jim Carrey, I'd prefer him as Zaphod Beeblebrox (an alien who doesn't have to have a British accent. And Trillian should be played by that Jane girl from frasier, anyone know who I speak of? (It'd fit too because Tricia McMillan's character ended up going to America to look for work on account of her British accent, which would make her a popular television newscaster) Mysterio Gal (fellow Subgenius & Happy Mutant) "ME NO LIKE HAMBURGER, ME WANT PEANUTBUTTER, ACTUALLY ME HATE PEANUTBUTTER TOO! ME JUST WANT HAIR!" -- Claire Monster (fully equipped with extremely loud keyboard and monster voice) ICQ# 9585405 MST3K#88182 gray42@juno.com http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Coffeehouse/4871 The Official Project Omicrom website: www.geocities.com/SoHo/Square/9007 _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Message-Id: <199806281800.OAA24106@ussenterprise.ufp.org> Date: Sun, 28 Jun 1998 13:00:22 -0500 From: Mitchell Harding Subject: Re: Really NON TMBG: Hate >no, see, that's just it. The only reason Communism did fail in the past is >because the people running it were all so selfish that they made it a >totalitarian government, or half-assed socialism, or a half-assed socialist >totalitarian government. The point is, if everyone were living in happy nice >joy land of make-believe, communism would work just fine. and if everyone had >everything they wanted/needed, there would be no benefit from hate-induced >conflict. so it would stop. people don't hate by nature, it's only because >they're taught to do it. I disagree -- people hate by nature. In evolutionary terms, we've been bred to horde things. Most people want things, seldom things they *need*. This has been true for all of history. True, this is partly because we're raised to be this way. But it stems from the fact that in nature one can never tell when hard times will come. Hence we will be greedy and selfish, if only subconsciously. And if someone else accrues more resources, then it is natural to hate them. I can't imagine any creature evolving on earth, or any other adversarial environment, that would not demonstrate hatred and greed. Harf, Mitcharf ------------------------------ From: tmbgirl@juno.com Date: Sun, 28 Jun 1998 12:08:12 -0600 Subject: TMBG: new old thread: OMLT's Message-ID: <19980628.120815.11222.3.TMBgirl@juno.com> hEY hEy! so uhm, i was thinking about it and well, the whole OMLT project started (at least the idea for it) sometime around february 1996... here we are almost two and a half years later and there are no shirts... Heh, i don't think we've even heard from the OMLT-Goddess (Christi587@aol.com ?) in like half a year... i dunno, i just don't think this project is ever gonna get finished if we don't do sumthin about it... any ideas? take it easy, JOrdaN http://www2.netcom.com/~arnot/joda/bootlegs.html :::proud to say i *still* haven't sent christi my $$::: _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ From: mike12da@cyberwaves.com (Mike Mcguire) Subject: Re: TMBG: Dirty Three Date: Sun, 28 Jun 1998 18:13:30 GMT Message-Id: <899057610@cyberwaves.com> Organization: SYNERGY RESOURCES, INC. -> Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) -> by ussenterprise.ufp.org (8.8.8/8.8.7) with SMTP id QAA22898; -> Sat, 27 Jun 1998 16:09:11 -0400 (EDT) -> Received: by ussenterprise.ufp.org (bulk_mailer v1.6); Sat, 27 Jun 1998 16:09:11 -0400 -> Received: (from majordom@localhost) -> by ussenterprise.ufp.org (8.8.8/8.8.7) id QAA22887 -> for tmbg-list-outgoing; Sat, 27 Jun 1998 16:09:11 -0400 (EDT) -> Received: from express.cec.wustl.edu (express.cec.wustl.edu [128.252.21.16]) -> by ussenterprise.ufp.org (8.8.8/8.8.7) with ESMTP id QAA22878 -> for ; Sat, 27 Jun 1998 16:09:08 -0400 (EDT) -> Received: from ritz.cec.wustl.edu (wt3@ritz.cec.wustl.edu [128.252.21.2]) -> by express.cec.wustl.edu (8.8.5/CTS-JEK1.2) with ESMTP id PAA00355; -> Sat, 27 Jun 1998 15:05:43 -0500 (CDT) -> Received: from localhost (wt3@localhost) -> by ritz.cec.wustl.edu (8.8.5/CTS-JEK1.2) with SMTP id PAA19699; -> Sat, 27 Jun 1998 15:05:39 -0500 (CDT) -> X-Authentication-Warning: ritz.cec.wustl.edu: wt3 owned process doing -bs -> Date: Sat, 27 Jun 1998 15:05:38 -0500 (CDT) -> From: Bill Tatalovich -> To: Mike Mcguire -> cc: tmbg-list@tmbg.org -> Subject: Re: TMBG: Dirty Three -> In-Reply-To: <898973979@cyberwaves.com> -> Message-ID: -> MIME-Version: 1.0 -> Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII -> Sender: owner-tmbg-list@tmbg.org -> Reply-To: Bill Tatalovich -> On Sat, 27 Jun 1998, Mike Mcguire wrote: -> > Has anyone out there heard of the band Dirty Three? I just bought one -> > of their albums (Horse Stories) and I'm listening to it for the first -> > time right now, and it's really really good. Just curious to see if -> > there's anyone else out there. -> First off, let me say that I keep mistaking "Mike Mcguire" for "Mark -> Mcguire", and I keep thinking Mike's some crazed Cardinals fan or -> something. -> Anyway, I heard the Dirty Three when I saw them in concert (they played -> with Versus, Calexico, and Flin Flon...yummy lineup), and I was very -> impressed. I'm just a sucker for instrumental music that actually does -> something (hence my like for Pell Mell, Tortoise, and the new Tuatara -> album, which I'm listening to right now). So I'll concur with Mike and -> say that the Dirty Three is a great band...one that is definitely worth -> listening to. -> |~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| -> | Reverend Bill Tatalovich | -> | | -> | wt3@cec.wustl.edu | -> | personnel@kwur.wustl.edu | -> | | -> | Visit feedback for toddlers! | -> | http://students.cec.wustl.edu/~wt3/ | -> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ I'm Mike McGuire, not Mark McGwire. Notice the difference in the spelling of the last name. The U vs. the W. He's got a double u, I've just got a single u. Sorry, I find that funny in a faint distant stupid way. Yes, I listened to the Dirty Three CD all day, I'm trying to get their new CD but no one around here has it so I'll have to order it (from the same place I ordered IFTS and Unsupervised and Why Does the Sun Shine). Very good stuff. I've listened to a little Tuatara and it was pretty cool. Is the CD good? Anyone else like this band and want to convice me to go buy the CD? I'm pretty easily convinced. *Mike* ------------------------------ Subject: Re: Really NON TMBG: Hate Message-ID: <19980628.141449.13958.0.Superman75@juno.com> From: superman75@juno.com (Adam Schaaf) Date: Sun, 28 Jun 1998 14:14:07 EDT hi. >there is a place at which our thinking differs--we still, according to >marx' manifesto, have a few notches of evolution left before true >communism is possible. right now, it is my educated opinion that, >despite being brought up in a totally communal society, people will >still want, and want is just an extension of need ... think about that. "Yes, Lisa, but in therory, communisim works. In therory." - Homer Simpson adam schaaf, D'oh! _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ From: NitpickR@aol.com Message-ID: <18de707.35968c01@aol.com> Date: Sun, 28 Jun 1998 14:31:28 EDT Subject: TMBG: Gencon, non-TMBG moxy Hello 41- I saw on the list that TMBG's private show in Milwaukee was at...Gen Con. The largest con in the country. I've been. It's pretty cool. Pretty insane. I hope they realized they're going to get jumped. I wonder what other guests will be there... Moxy Fruvous- I went to the free show in Columbia the other day. I was actually not expecting to like them a whole lot, but they turned out to please me. How about that. I didn't expect them to be very political, which was nice. And I have heard Michigan Militia on WRNR, but didn't know it was them. So I'll probably go to Birchmere to see them. Go Adam Adam ------------------------------ From: Kaylum@aol.com Message-ID: <2817688.35968dc2@aol.com> Date: Sun, 28 Jun 1998 14:38:57 EDT Subject: Re: TMBG: new old thread: OMLT's << i dunno, i just don't think this project is ever gonna get finished if we don't do sumthin about it... any ideas? >> If I had ordered one (thank goodness I didn't), I'd take my loss and move on. I don't think anyone really thinks they're still getting one, do they? Kay ------------------------------ Message-Id: Date: Sun, 28 Jun 98 14:42 EDT From: kbrodbec@remcen.ehhs.cmich.edu (Kirsten Brodbeck) Subject: TMBG: hmm... Just got this from my friend John, who's almost always right. ;) Kirsten Douglas Adams has emphatically stated the Jim Carrey has NOT signed on for the HITCHHIKER'S GUIDE TO THE GALAXY film, contrary to several rumors, including one at E! Online. >From today's Geekmedia __________ John Adcox Visit my Web site! http://jadcox.home.mindspring.com -- [][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][] "And she said losing love is like a window in your heart Everybody sees you're blown apart..." - Paul Simon "Graceland" Kirsten Brodbeck AKA Crow kbrodbec@remcen.ehhs.cmich.edu ------------------------------ Message-Id: <1.5.4.32.19980628185623.006d3e90@cybnetonline.com> Date: Sun, 28 Jun 1998 13:56:23 -0500 From: "The Li'l Depressed Boy" Subject: Re: TMBG: hmm... Now this one I believe. LDB At 02:42 PM 6/28/98 EDT, Kirsten Brodbeck wrote: > Just got this from my friend John, who's almost always right. ;) > >Kirsten > > > Douglas Adams has emphatically stated the Jim Carrey has NOT signed on for > the HITCHHIKER'S GUIDE TO THE GALAXY film, contrary to several rumors, > including one at E! Online. > > >From today's Geekmedia > > > __________ > John Adcox > > Visit my Web site! > http://jadcox.home.mindspring.com > > > >-- >[][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][] >"And she said losing love is like a window in your heart > Everybody sees you're blown apart..." - Paul Simon "Graceland" >Kirsten Brodbeck AKA Crow kbrodbec@remcen.ehhs.cmich.edu > > -- (this site cuts the amount of URL's I put in my Sig) My Web Page Index: http://www.cybnetonline.com/users/njack/ TMBG | D.U.M.B. NEWS | Mr. Gone Font -- Contemporary Cartoon Militia is (C) & TM 1998 S. Steven Struble and Kris W. M. Struble. The Li'l Depressed Boy, Phreeck, Spyder Hunt, and all related characters (C) & TM 1998 S. Steven Struble ------------------------------ Message-Id: <199806281947.PAA16253@elvis.vnet.net> From: "Could be an Illusion" Date: Sun, 28 Jun 1998 15:48:58 -0500 Subject: Re: Non-TMBG: new old thread: OMLT's -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- On Sun, 28 Jun 1998 14:38:57 EDT, Kaylum@aol.com wrote: >If I had ordered one (thank goodness I didn't), I'd take my loss and move on. >I don't think anyone really thinks they're still getting one, do they? Heh... :) I sure don't! However, I recently got a box full of random stuff from a guy in Canada, so I feel better now. :) And now, "Screw you guys, I'm goin' home", /* // * Carl Hudkins // pardon me while I have a strange interlude * chud@vnet.net // * [Team OS/2] // */ // http://users.vnet.net/chud/ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 Comment: Would you send mail without an envelope? iQCVAwUBNZaeJ75BFpotHh45AQFfRAP8Cn2Ez7DnPfbxDPkIQh99BQcxbcNwcIq4 dAc3qM3Z9CobrA33SMFKyk3uypt34qjgp/0mmTvooepJSHjR9hzsWdmOk5g5gxVh mqE06H6qHVmBsP5+d2iHTzrzcFsGqqj8FiD+j9WB96HG98QqxA9kGo007EX78XH3 esEewpYtr98= =Jwxi -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 28 Jun 1998 14:54:32 -0500 (CDT) From: Bill Tatalovich Subject: Re: TMBG: Gencon, non-TMBG moxy Message-ID: On Sun, 28 Jun 1998 NitpickR@aol.com wrote: > Hello 41- > > I saw on the list that TMBG's private show in Milwaukee was at...Gen Con. The > largest con in the country. I've been. It's pretty cool. Pretty insane. I > hope they realized they're going to get jumped. I wonder what other guests > will be there... I thought Gen Con was the gaming convention that was sponsored (at least in part) by TSR games (the Dungeons and Dragons folks). Then again, the last time I even thought about Gen Con was about 7 or 8 years ago, so I could just be out of my gourd. > Moxy Fruvous- I went to the free show in Columbia the other day. I was > actually not expecting to like them a whole lot, but they turned out to please > me. How about that. I didn't expect them to be very political, which was > nice. And I have heard Michigan Militia on WRNR, but didn't know it was them. > So I'll probably go to Birchmere to see them. Go Adam I'm not sure that anyone mentioned this (I ignored the Moxy posts for a while, seeing as how I don't know much about them other than "B.J. Don't Cry" (I have it on a mix tape)), but Bottom Line is reissuing _the b album_ and _Wood_....tentative date for release is 25 august, according to Billboard or some such web site. Just thought I'd mention it. |~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| | Reverend Bill Tatalovich | | | | wt3@cec.wustl.edu | | personnel@kwur.wustl.edu | | | | http://students.cec.wustl.edu/~wt3/ | ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 28 Jun 1998 15:24:28 -0500 (CDT) From: Bill Tatalovich Subject: Re: TMBG: Dirty Three Message-ID: On Sun, 28 Jun 1998, Mike Mcguire wrote: > -> First off, let me say that I keep mistaking "Mike Mcguire" for "Mark > -> Mcguire", and I keep thinking Mike's some crazed Cardinals fan or > -> something. > > I'm Mike McGuire, not Mark McGwire. Notice the difference in the > spelling of the last name. The U vs. the W. He's got a double u, I've > just got a single u. Sorry, I find that funny in a faint distant stupid > way. I know, Mike, I know. It's one of those "quick glance" things that kept pestering me for a bit. I'm over it now... > Yes, I listened to the Dirty Three CD all day, I'm trying to get their > new CD but no one around here has it so I'll have to order it (from the > same place I ordered IFTS and Unsupervised and Why Does the Sun Shine). > Very good stuff. Yeah, the Dirty Three's latest album (called Ocean Songs, I belive) is very very good...we had it in heavy rotation on our radio station for a while.... > I've listened to a little Tuatara and it was pretty cool. Is the CD > good? Anyone else like this band and want to convice me to go buy the > CD? I'm pretty easily convinced. The new Tuatara CD is my only experience....it's called Trading With the Enemy. For those who don't know, Tuatara is a little jazz-type group containing (among others) the bass player from Luna, Peter Buck from REM, the sax player from Los Lobos, and many many others. The new CD is incredibly good...I like it profusely. Check it out if you like jazz, or just plain instrumental music. |~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| | Reverend Bill Tatalovich | | | | wt3@cec.wustl.edu | | personnel@kwur.wustl.edu | | | | Visit feedback for toddlers! | | http://students.cec.wustl.edu/~wt3/ | ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------ From: KdsInThHal@aol.com Message-ID: <78e064b.3596a85e@aol.com> Date: Sun, 28 Jun 1998 16:32:29 EDT Subject: Re: TMBG: TMBG fans unite... form of an ape, form of..... In a message dated 6/28/98 1:09:35 PM, poncho@iag.net wrote: >Come back when instead of being a 24 year old who > >thinks like a 4 year old, you are a MAN who loves They Might Be Giants and > >can hold act like an adult. We have 12 year olds on this list who act more > >mature. 24?! i thought he _was_ 12... and even if he says he's 24 i still don't buy it.. sarah ------------------------------ From: DrWormX@aol.com Message-ID: <211da919.3596ab6b@aol.com> Date: Sun, 28 Jun 1998 16:45:27 EDT Subject: TMBG: *non*-tmbg: Kicking People off of the list Here's I feel about kicking people off of the list: About a month ago, when we were having that Chris Farley debate blah blah blah we all remember...Anywho, I got real pissed at another member of the list, and I proposed kicking him off. Anyway after I talked to him a little bit, I realized he wasn't a bad guy, and I regreted proposing such a radical solution. Now this Josh guy is dumb, stupid, ignorant, idiotic, moronic, and a totally different story. BUT... even though he is all of these things, and has pulled a multitude of horribly awful stunts, he still deserves a choice of if he wants to be on this list. If I were him (HINT HINT HINT JOSH HINT) I probably wouldn't have joined this list in the first place. He has showed us that he really isn't very fond of the band, and doesn't know much about them at all. Usually these aren't factors that go into joining a mailing list of a band, especially the REGULAR format. Now my suggestion is that he get's off of this list himself (for his own good), and if he keeps up those terrible stunts, I say do whatever you want to get him to leave himself (keyword HIMSELF), but stop trying to get him kicked off, for it is futile. That is all... Matt--grammarical errors (blame my 8th grade teachers) You're really alive when you wish you were dead. And there isn't a god, or a heaven or hell, life's a little old apple and a William Tell ------------------------------ From: tmbgirl@juno.com Date: Sun, 28 Jun 1998 15:25:27 -0600 Subject: Re: TMBG: new old thread: OMLT's Message-ID: <19980628.152543.19958.0.TMBgirl@juno.com> >If I had ordered one (thank goodness I didn't), I'd take my loss and >move on. >I don't think anyone really thinks they're still getting one, do they? which is why i'm asking for alternate solutions... anyone else want to take this feat upon themselves that actually will get it done? take it easy, JOrdaN http://www2.netcom.com/~arnot/joda/bootlegs.html "they might be giants delivering disappointment since 1986" ---Flansburgh _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ From: tmbgirl@juno.com Date: Sun, 28 Jun 1998 15:31:06 -0600 Subject: Re: TMBG: *non*-tmbg: Kicking People off of the list Message-ID: <19980628.153225.19958.1.TMBgirl@juno.com> >he still deserves a choice of if he wants to be on this list. ditto.. and as we all saw with feeny... listies can redeem themselves. give him a chance to do so.. he's already stopped posting irrelevant crap so i say he's already on the road to recovery... take it easy, JOrdaN http://www2.netcom.com/~arnot/joda/bootlegs.html " So yeah...keep on advertising your site. It gives me stuff to do when I'm really bored" _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ From: mr.train@juno.com Date: Sun, 28 Jun 1998 17:27:31 -0400 Subject: TMBG: Re: top 100 flicks poll Message-ID: <19980628.172732.6638.0.Mr.Train@juno.com> OK, I am back from my week in West Va. Since my TMBG list UNsubscription did not go through, I had over 300 messages in my box Anyway, I now have an account set up for the TMBG list to vote for the TOP MOVIE OF A|_L TIME ACCORDING TO THE TMBG MAILING LIST!!!!!!!!! the address is: topflick@juno.com voting will be open for one week. that's from now until the 5th of July. I'll post results on the 6th or seventh with maybe a little commentary. Just put the name of the movie you wanna vote for in the body of your e-mail, if there is a remake of that movie please specify. (For example: you like the old Romeo and Juliet that shows that one guys butt for 5 min. and the girls chest for 2 milliseconds [whoa! english class flashback] better than the Leo-Claire remake... then put something like: Romeo and Juliet (old ver.) or something so I can keep the two flicks' votes seperate) Lemme remind you that this is just a poll, you don't win any prizes if the movie you vote for wins, so one vote per person, please. and don't flood the address with a million votes from one address Tim, ape ape ape ape PEOPLE PEOPLE PEOPLE PEOPLE Miscellaneous Tim AKA TMB(do)G AKA Tambo (IRC) AKA Mr.Train (OML) Favorite TMBG song update: n/a Last CD purchase: everc|ear-fountains of wayne-royal crown revue Favorite mainstream song: One Week - BNL _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Message-ID: <3596C756.7A8C@erols.com> Date: Sun, 28 Jun 1998 18:44:38 -0400 From: Zydell Subject: Re: TMBG: new old thread: OMLT's tmbgirl@juno.com wrote: > > hEY hEy! > > so uhm, i was thinking about it and well, the whole OMLT project started > (at least the idea for it) sometime around february 1996... here we are > almost two and a half years later and there are no shirts... > Heh, i don't think we've even heard from the OMLT-Goddess > (Christi587@aol.com ?) in like half a year... i dunno, i just don't > think this project is ever gonna get finished if we don't do sumthin > about it... any ideas? I dont think it will get done either, It really disapoints me that someone would take all of that money and then not follow through with the t-shirt. It was 4/97 when I recieved my confirmation and 9/97 when she cashed my cheque. I am glad I only ordered one shirt, at least it was only 10 bucks. My bad side thinks that it was just a fundraiser for her little trip to Paris. Even if someone else wanted to take on the project for a different t-shirt, I would not be ordering. At this point I think she should just give us our money back, or just give all the money and records to someone who will complete the task she started. Nancy I am sorry for any spelling errors, this is as good as my spelling gets. ------------------------------ Message-ID: <3596F27A.B20EAD43@pacificnet.net> Date: Sun, 28 Jun 1998 17:48:45 -0800 From: Bongo Subject: TMBG: Enough Non-TMBG Crap! Today I scrolled through the enormous tmbg-list Digest #7-28 in a desperate attempt to find some information relating to a band named "They Might Be Giants". I after sorting through tons of miscellany on talk show hosts, horror movies and Dilbert, I gave up. Some of you may feel there isn't much TMBG related going on to talk about now. Shouldn't you try exploring some kind of "alt.fan.movies.zombie" or "alt.fan.conanobrien" newsgroup instead? Do you you need to fight your personal non TMBG related arguments here? I remember a time when a single off topic poster would get screamed at. Now this list is all random stuff about whatever and no one seems to care. If any one said anything important in the past few day about TMBG it was lost in an ocean of miscellany. Where's that moderator? -B O N G O _____________________________________________ "When you go down to where you know don't forget what you don't know" -Geggy Tah ------------------------------ Message-ID: <3596E84C.3718@erols.com> Date: Sun, 28 Jun 1998 21:05:33 -0400 From: Zydell Subject: TMBG: Non TMBG posts and kicking people of the list >>Now this Josh guy is dumb, stupid, ignorant, idiotic, moronic, and a totally different story. BUT... even though he is all of these things, and has pulled a multitude of horribly awful stunts, he still deserves a choice of if he wants to be on this list. >> I agree! We should not have the power to kick people off the list. That is just wrong. (The name of the sender is right on the top of the message so that we can delete annoying emails.) * ---------------------------------------- >> I remember a time when a single off topic poster would get screamed at. Now this list is all random stuff about whatever and no one seems to care. If any one said anything important in the past few day about TMBG it was lost in an ocean of miscellany. Where's that moderator? >> Please no moderator! We don't need a moderated list. I think we have all gotten a little out of hand lately but by-in-large we all are pretty good about sticking to the topic. I know it is more annoying (esp. with the digests) to weed out the non-tmbg stuff. Maybe there is away to put a filter on the topics so that everyone who only wants TMBG topics will only get TMBG topics & the Non-TMBG stuff is automaticaly filtered out. ??? Nancy * --------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 28 Jun 1998 20:14:51 -0500 (CDT) From: "Christopher M. Stangl" Subject: Re: TMBG: Re: top 100 flicks poll Message-ID: Why is this masquerading as an on-topic post? On Sun, 28 Jun 1998 mr.train@juno.com wrote: > Anyway, I now have an account set up for the TMBG list to vote for the > TOP MOVIE OF A|_L TIME ACCORDING TO THE TMBG MAILING LIST!!!!!!!!! I should hope that "They Might Be Giants" or "Brain Candy" or "Mighty Morphin Power Rangers: The Movie" will win, but that is too on-topic a wish to dream of. > voting will be open for one week. that's from now until the 5th of July. Which means only the pinks and unregistered SubGenii on the list will even get to see the results tabulated... I'd wish y'all a Happy X-Day, but I doubt it'll happen, since your grey matter will be boiling inside your skulls from death rays causing it to bubble out of your brainpan and seep out your nasal passages (if you aren't slaughtered by the initial AntiPink Rays the saucers shoot at the planet, that is). > Just put the name of the movie you wanna vote for in the body of your > e-mail, if there is a remake of that movie please specify. (For example: > you like the old Romeo and Juliet that shows that one guys butt for 5 > min. and the girls chest for 2 milliseconds [whoa! english class > flashback] better than the Leo-Claire remake... then put something like: > Romeo and Juliet (old ver.) or something so I can keep the two flicks' > votes seperate) May I suggest that if you like "the old 'Romeo and Juliet' that shows that one guy's butt", you vote for "Romeo and Juliet (1968)" or "Romeo and Juliet (Franco Zeffirelli)", or even more accurately "Giulietta e Romeo". As there are some forty+ screen versions of "Romeo and Juliet", I don't think "Romeo and Juliet (old version)" will quite suffice at ALL (and for the record, the "Leo-Claire remake" is most accurately referred to as "William Shakespeare's Romeo + Juilet"). -Chris Stangl, picking nits. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 28 Jun 1998 18:16:38 -0700 (PDT) From: leonard helfgott Subject: Re: Really NON TMBG: Hate Message-ID: communism is an institution traditionally run by an oppresive government, so therefore, that is not what I'm talking about. Simply a community where money was no concern, and the recources were plentiful. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 28 Jun 1998 18:17:40 -0700 (PDT) From: leonard helfgott Subject: Re: Really NON TMBG: Hate Message-ID: true, but I don't think that material jealousy leads to hate as easily as monitary jealousy can. On Sat, 27 Jun 1998, jays your one-paged dictionary wrote: > leonard helfgott wrote: > > > > Yes, but that's largely because of the society that we are brought up in. > > Not meaning to throw my personal politics into the line, but I think that > > jealousy is an emotion stemming from a capitalist society, and if the > > community where everyone had all that they needed, nothing more, nothing > > less, I don't think that hatred would stem. > > Jon Helfgott > > > > there is a place at which our thinking differs--we still, according to > marx' manifesto, have a few notches of evolution left before true > communism is possible. right now, it is my educated opinion that, > despite being brought up in a totally communal society, people will > still want, and want is just an extension of need ... think about that. > > jealousy isn't just a monetary thing. we as humans do have a set, > physcologically stable, fairly common view of beauty; those who cannot > achieve that beauty will be jealous of those who can. the same thing > with music, and the arts, and .. everything. > > peace, love, and good happiness stuff, > > jay. > -- > jayhc--always accurate, constant, and intense. > > e-mail: sirjamez@fuse.net, phonebook@tmbg.org > aol im: SaturnChrd, PhoneBookJ > irc: PhoneBook > > "and sadly the cross-eyed bear's been > put to sleep behind the stairs, > and his shoes are laced with irony." > > --tmbg > > "Hey, some people take drugs and some people like to have sex all > day, I like to watch my bees as I make music, so what." > > --steve vai > > -- > ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 28 Jun 1998 18:18:20 -0700 (PDT) From: leonard helfgott Subject: Re: Really NON TMBG: Hate Message-ID: my sentiments exactly ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 28 Jun 1998 18:21:08 -0700 (PDT) From: leonard helfgott Subject: Re: TMBG: TMBG fans unite... form of an ape, form of..... Message-ID: has anyone noticed that Josh Buckland hasn't posted in a long tima? He's probably dropped it, and we should do the same. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 28 Jun 1998 18:25:12 -0700 (PDT) From: leonard helfgott Subject: Re: Really NON TMBG: Hate Message-ID: I'd like to get one thing straight. Marx wasn't a communist, he was an evolutionary socialist. The example of the complete works of Karl Marx that Adam Schaaf wrote are indicative of that. True socialism believes that all of the people need to believe in it for it to work. Communists take the power by force, and then try to change the society. Just clearing things up a bit. On Sun, 28 Jun 1998, Adam Schaaf wrote: > hi. > > >there is a place at which our thinking differs--we still, according to > >marx' manifesto, have a few notches of evolution left before true > >communism is possible. right now, it is my educated opinion that, > >despite being brought up in a totally communal society, people will > >still want, and want is just an extension of need ... think about that. > > "Yes, Lisa, but in therory, communisim works. In therory." - Homer > Simpson > > adam schaaf, D'oh! > > _____________________________________________________________________ > You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. > Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com > Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] > ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 28 Jun 1998 18:26:48 -0700 (PDT) From: leonard helfgott Subject: Re: TMBG: Enough Non-TMBG Crap! Message-ID: you can't spend your life just talking about one band in any setting, even if it is a fan's mailing list. Jon Helfgott ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 28 Jun 1998 21:00:39 -0500 (CDT) From: Bill Tatalovich Subject: Re: Really NON TMBG: Hate Message-ID: On Sun, 28 Jun 1998, leonard helfgott wrote: > communism is an institution traditionally run by an oppresive government, > so therefore, that is not what I'm talking about. Simply a community > where money was no concern, and the recources were plentiful. Communism in practice doesn't necessarily mean an oppressive government. It is true, though, that many of them are termed as oppressive, merely because the government controls all private businesses, etc. Then again, we can think about this as being a moot point, because no "real" communist government has ever existed, only regimes operating under the pretense of instituting communism. Because once communism truly exists, there is no need for a "government." |~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| | Reverend Bill Tatalovich | | | | wt3@cec.wustl.edu | | personnel@kwur.wustl.edu | | | | Visit feedback for toddlers! | | http://students.cec.wustl.edu/~wt3/ | ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ np: KWUR 90.3 fm Real Audio! (yeah!) ------------------------------ Message-ID: <35972A95.25C5@fuse.net> Date: Sun, 28 Jun 1998 22:48:05 -0700 From: jays your one-paged dictionary Organization: dial-a-song! 718-387-6962, narrrrrrrrr! Subject: Re: Really NON TMBG: Hate Bill Tatalovich wrote: > Communism in practice doesn't necessarily mean an oppressive government. > It is true, though, that many of them are termed as oppressive, merely > because the government controls all private businesses, etc. Then again, > we can think about this as being a moot point, because no "real" communist > government has ever existed, only regimes operating under the pretense of > instituting communism. Because once communism truly exists, there is no > need for a "government." > as i've always said, communism is but anarchy with nice people. i get funny looks, often, with that statement. ;) peace, love, and good happiness stuff, jay. -- jayhc, who just watched "crossroads"--bah, steve vai could kick ralph macchio's ass any day. e-mail: sirjamez@fuse.net, phonebook@tmbg.org aol im: SaturnChrd, PhoneBookJ irc: PhoneBook "and sadly the cross-eyed bear's been put to sleep behind the stairs, and his shoes are laced with irony." --tmbg "Hey, some people take drugs and some people like to have sex all day, I like to watch my bees as I make music, so what." --steve vai -- ------------------------------ End of tmbg-list Digest #7-30 *****************************