Errors-To: owner-tmbg-digest@tmbg.org Reply-To: tmbg-digest@tmbg.org Sender: owner-tmbg-digest@tmbg.org Precedence: bulk From: owner-tmbg-digest@tmbg.org To: tmbg-digest@tmbg.org Subject: tmbg-list Digest #8-9 tmbg-list Digest, Volume 8, Number 9 Thursday, 9 July 1998 Today's Topics: TMBG: Dial-A-Song Re: TMBG: Dial-A-Song Re: TMBG: Bad Words (was The F word) TMBG: Squirt Tv Re: TMBG: Bad Words (was The F word) Re: TMBG: TMBG and Mono Puff Re: NonTMBG: The Seven Dirty Words Re: TMBG: Singles Re: TMBG: Bad Words (was The F word) Re: TMBG: Bad Words (was The F word) Re: NON-TMBG: Bad Words TMBG: Various Responses Re: TMBG: Various Responses Re: TMBG: Squirt Tv Re: TMBG: Squirt Tv Re: TMBG: Bad Words (was The F word) Re: (non?)TMBG: bad words & TMBG Show TMBG: Website! Re: TMBG: Bad Words (was The F word) Re: NonTMBG: The Seven Dirty Words Re: NonTMBG: The Seven Dirty Words Re: TMBG: Bad Words (was The F word) Re: Bad Words (was The F word) Hey wait, this is NON-TMBG: Re: TMBG: Bad Words (was The F word) Re: NonTMBG: The Seven Dirty Words Re: NonTMBG: The Seven Dirty Words Re: NON-TMBG: Bad Words TMBG: FW: Tweety TMBG: The state of the list address TMBG: Useful content on the list. NONTMBG: Ack! Chain letters! Re: TMBG: The state of the list address Re: TMBG: The state of the list address TMBG: Last Night's Episode of Buffy the Vampire Slayer... TMBG: Chain letters... Non-TMBG: Last Night's Episode of Buffy the Vampire Slayer... TMBG: The World's Address Re: TMBG: The World's Address Re: TMBG: The state of the list address Re: TMBG: Bad Words (was The F word) Re: TMBG: Bad Words (was The F word) Re: TMBG: Bad Words (was The F word) Re: NON-TMBG: Bad Words Re: non TMBG: Bad Words (was The F word) Re: F*CK (was: TMBG: Last Night's Episode of Buffy the Vampire Slayer...) Re: NON-TMBG: Bad Words, etc. Re: F*CK (was: TMBG: Last Night's Episode of Buffy the Vampire Slayer...) Re: TMBG: Bad Words (was The F word) Re: NON-TMBG: Bad Words, etc. Re: TMBG: The World's Address Administrivia: If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing send mail to tmbg-digest-request@tmbg.org for instructions on how to be automatically removed. --------------------------------------------------------------------- The views expressed herein are those of the individual authors. --------------------------------------------------------------------- tmbg-list is digested with Digest 3.5b (John Relph ). ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: TMBG: Dial-A-Song Message-ID: <19980706.183733.2279.0.captainmarvel2@juno.com> From: captainmarvel2@juno.com (Derek A Klein) Date: Mon, 06 Jul 1998 18:38:32 EDT Has anybody tried calling Dial-A-Song lately? I have been calling at all hours of the day for the past week, and I can't get through. I just wanted to know if anyone else has had any luck with it. Thanks. Derek "Egad, a base tone denotes a bad age" _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Message-ID: <19980706225022.14746.qmail@hotmail.com> From: "Sarah Starr" Subject: Re: TMBG: Dial-A-Song Date: Mon, 06 Jul 1998 15:50:22 PDT >Has anybody tried calling Dial-A-Song lately? I have been calling at all >hours of the day for the past week, and I can't get through. I just >wanted to know if anyone else has had any luck with it. Thanks. I've been trying for about 5 hours today and I can't get through either. All the other times I tried I got through in two or three attempts....I wonder what's happening.... Sarah faye looking wistfully into the mushroom cloud ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Message-ID: <35A15938.7A7CA189@cannet.com> Date: Mon, 06 Jul 1998 19:09:44 -0400 From: Mike Blaser Subject: Re: TMBG: Bad Words (was The F word) Scot Westwood wrote: > > Let me get get this straight MTV the station that won't play > Sublimes' Santa Ria without bleeping out the word cap, is playing the > unedited version of Smack My Bitch Up. What a bunch of shitheads. They played it for two weeks back in November or Decemer IIRC....and they only played it between 1 and 5 in the morning. And it included a discalimer by Kurt Loder that was longer than the actual song. And it wasn't unedited. All the women were blurred out from the waist down...nonetheless it was still softcore porn...something I thought I'd never see on MTV. Another thing I thought I'd never see on MTV is a Rammstein video...which is getting a shitload of airplay right now... ~Mike still pissed he accidentally taped over SMBU ------------------------------ Subject: TMBG: Squirt Tv Message-ID: <19980706.192530.8839.0.captainmarvel2@juno.com> From: captainmarvel2@juno.com (Derek A Klein) Date: Mon, 06 Jul 1998 19:26:34 EDT I was thinking back today and I remembered something that pissed me off. I don't know how many of you remember the short-lived show "Squirt TV" on Mtv. The theme song for the show was none other than "Minimum Wage". I had it taped for a while, but my friend borrowed it and taped over it! AARRGGGHHH!!!! Does anyone else remember this show? Derek "Egad, a base tone denotes a bad age" _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Message-Id: Date: Mon, 6 Jul 98 19:34 EDT From: kbrodbec@remcen.ehhs.cmich.edu (Kirsten Brodbeck) Subject: Re: TMBG: Bad Words (was The F word) > >really? Not me, I was 11 in 1993, and all of those words were significant >(overused, as I look back) words in my vocabulary. Nope, I was a Good Child. As a matter of fact, I didn't really learn how to swear with authority until a couple years ago, and my education really wasn't complete until last summer, when I spent two weeks with my friend Travis... Kirsten -- [][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][] "And she said losing love is like a window in your heart Everybody sees you're blown apart..." - Paul Simon "Graceland" Kirsten Brodbeck AKA Crow kbrodbec@remcen.ehhs.cmich.edu ------------------------------ Message-ID: <19980706234148.25545.qmail@hotmail.com> From: "Jason F." Subject: Re: TMBG: TMBG and Mono Puff Date: Mon, 06 Jul 1998 16:41:48 PDT >That's odd... at my radio station (well, I don't own it) there was a >sticker from the record company on the promo album, with recommended >tracks and stuff... and in bold, it said "Single: #9 Backstabbing Liar." >Maybe they changed their minds. Imaginary Friend and Backstabbing Liar are both good songs, but in my opinion, Poison Flowers would be an awesome choice for a second (or third?) single. Anyone else agree? --Jason-- "Hot Cha, where are you? Everybody's eyes are closed." -They Might Be Giants ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Message-Id: Date: Mon, 6 Jul 98 19:49 EDT From: kbrodbec@remcen.ehhs.cmich.edu (Kirsten Brodbeck) Subject: Re: NonTMBG: The Seven Dirty Words There's also a "safe harbor" time that allows DJs more freedom >(usually after 9pm), as it's well after the drive time. Heh heh.. I think it's 10pm here, or something, because there used to be a heavy metal show on the college station that originally went from 8-10 pm, but got extended to 8-11 pm for spring term. The DJ's were very excited: "Do you know what *that* means?" "What does that mean?" "That means we can play SWEARING SONGS!" "Alright! SWEARING SONGS!!" Kirsten -- [][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][] "And she said losing love is like a window in your heart Everybody sees you're blown apart..." - Paul Simon "Graceland" Kirsten Brodbeck AKA Crow kbrodbec@remcen.ehhs.cmich.edu ------------------------------ Subject: Re: TMBG: Singles Message-ID: <19980706.194856.8991.0.captainmarvel2@juno.com> From: captainmarvel2@juno.com (Derek A Klein) Date: Mon, 06 Jul 1998 19:50:02 EDT Hello. Can anyone get me the e-mail address for www.cdsingle.com ? Thanks. Derek "Egad, a base tone denotes a bad age" _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ From: gray42@juno.com Date: Mon, 6 Jul 1998 19:17:21 -0400 Subject: Re: TMBG: Bad Words (was The F word) Message-ID: <19980706.194052.3302.1.gray42@juno.com> On Sun, 5 Jul 98 22:16 EDT kbrodbec@remcen.ehhs.cmich.edu (Kirsten Brodbeck) writes: >When I got Apollo >>18 I was shocked at their use of Son-Of-A-Bitch, in I Palindome I. I >>learned that it was bad to say words like Bitch, so whenever I >listened >>to the song, it was the one bit I refused to sing aloud. But I've >gotten >>over that, heck SOB is not as blasphemous as it was back in the days >of >>1993, at the age of 13. > > lol! Me too! I'd sing it, "You son of a *hmm* I Palindrome >I". >hee hee... > >Kirsten >(also 13 in '93) especially when my parents were in the room, I felt happily devious with the knowledge I was listening to music w/ such language Mysterio Gal (fellow Subgenius & Happy Mutant) "ME NO LIKE HAMBURGER, ME WANT PEANUTBUTTER, ACTUALLY ME HATE PEANUTBUTTER TOO! ME JUST WANT HAIR!" -- Claire Monster (fully equipped with extremely loud keyboard and monster voice) ICQ# 9585405 MST3K#88182 gray42@juno.com http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Coffeehouse/4871 The Official Project Omicrom website: www.geocities.com/SoHo/Square/9007 _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ From: gray42@juno.com Date: Mon, 6 Jul 1998 19:37:44 -0400 Subject: Re: TMBG: Bad Words (was The F word) Message-ID: <19980706.194052.3302.2.gray42@juno.com> On Mon, 06 Jul 1998 16:54:51 -0500 "The Li'l Depressed Boy" writes: >> Though most stations will not air a program with the word >>"Goddamn". The difference between "damn" and "goddamn" is an ocean in >the >>eyes of network censors. > >MTV our favorite "We've shown soft-core porn" (not-so-oftenly-played) >music >channel, cencors the song Flagpole Sitta by Harvey Danger, and the >funny >thing is, they bleep the god not the damn. Is god a cuss word now? >That >sure would be funny. God you man! > >God you all! >LDB ARRRRRRGGGGHHHH, sayin' smut like that will git you a floggin' in certain states :P (no I am not a demented kangaroo from beyond the seventh star of chunmaytwon III, I was bein' saurcastic) Well off to my mutterings of the cursed little green men w/ purple pointed beards *dribble dribble dribble* Mysterio Gal (fellow Subgenius & Happy Mutant) "ME NO LIKE HAMBURGER, ME WANT PEANUTBUTTER, ACTUALLY ME HATE PEANUTBUTTER TOO! ME JUST WANT HAIR!" -- Claire Monster (fully equipped with extremely loud keyboard and monster voice) ICQ# 9585405 MST3K#88182 gray42@juno.com http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Coffeehouse/4871 The Official Project Omicrom website: www.geocities.com/SoHo/Square/9007 _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ From: gray42@juno.com Date: Mon, 6 Jul 1998 18:53:34 -0400 Subject: Re: NON-TMBG: Bad Words Message-ID: <19980706.194052.3302.0.gray42@juno.com> I heard Bitch on the Simpsons (Bart said it) And shit on the radio. BTW did anyone see the Late Night w/ Conan O' Brian when he accidently swore, all the other people on the show expressed their swearing skills in reaction to his outburst, it was very funny. Mysterio Gal (bleepin bleep bleep) "ME NO LIKE HAMBURGER, ME WANT PEANUTBUTTER, ACTUALLY ME HATE PEANUTBUTTER TOO! ME JUST WANT HAIR!" -- Claire Monster (fully equipped with extremely loud keyboard and monster voice) ICQ# 9585405 MST3K#88182 gray42@juno.com http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Coffeehouse/4871 The Official Project Omicrom website: www.geocities.com/SoHo/Square/9007 _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ From: Spoonerism@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Mon, 6 Jul 1998 21:21:12 EDT Subject: TMBG: Various Responses <> A while back, when this thread first came up, someone sent a bunch of WAV files from the concert. I found some on my hard drive (She's an Angel, Particle Man, Statue Got Me High, Ana Ng, etc.), but not all of them where there. Just wondering if anyone remembers who this person is or where he/she went with the rest of the files :) (Did someone say you can find this CD on CDNOW.COM?) <> OK, I woke up just in time to catch the T section (after grudgingly missing R.E.M. and the B-52s for the SECOND year in a row), and I must say, I was quite dissapointed. they played 2 vidoes from the Talking Heads (which weren't even the good ones) before playing some crappy band called Talk Talk, and then 3 vidoes from (gag) Tears for Fears. Then they skipped over TMBG, which is when I stomped out of the room. They don't even play TMBG and they only play 2 lousy Talking Heads videos. While (gag) Tears for Fears and (gag) (gag) Matchbox 20 got THREE videos each! And don't even get me started on Madonna's HOUR AND A HALF of trashy videos... I like her new stuff, but not her sophomoric bubble gum sex pop (gag) (gag) (gag) I guess we know where VH1's tastes in music lie. <> I had to get in on this one. I have the digest form, and I have no problems scrolling through the NON-TMBG posts. It's just a few freakin mouse clicks. Jeez... -CAsey ------------------------------ Message-Id: Date: Mon, 6 Jul 98 21:31 EDT From: kbrodbec@remcen.ehhs.cmich.edu (Kirsten Brodbeck) Subject: Re: TMBG: Various Responses >and then 3 vidoes from (gag) Tears for Fears. Then they skipped over TMBG, >which is when I stomped out of the room. They don't even play TMBG and they >only play 2 lousy Talking Heads videos. While (gag) Tears for Fears Y'know, I know some people who would promptly gag you for making (gag) noises about Tears for Fears... ;) Kirsten "My Best Friend Went as Roland Orzabel [the guy from TFF] for Halloween" Brodbeck -- [][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][] "And she said losing love is like a window in your heart Everybody sees you're blown apart..." - Paul Simon "Graceland" Kirsten Brodbeck AKA Crow kbrodbec@remcen.ehhs.cmich.edu ------------------------------ From: KdsInThHal@aol.com Message-ID: <5e98e340.35a18ae6@aol.com> Date: Mon, 6 Jul 1998 22:41:40 EDT Subject: Re: TMBG: Squirt Tv In a message dated 7/6/98 7:52:40 PM, captainmarvel2@juno.com wrote: >I was thinking back today and I remembered something that pissed me off. >I don't know how many of you remember the short-lived show "Squirt TV" on >Mtv. >The theme song for the show was none other than "Minimum Wage". I had it >taped for a while, but my friend borrowed it and taped over it! >AARRGGGHHH!!!! >Does anyone else remember this show? yep. i liked that show when it was on comedy central, right before mtv grabbed it. the host, Jake still uses the show's screen name too. i have an episode on tape where Scott and Kevin of the Kids in the Hall were on, and they showed a montage of previous squirt tv's, and in one, Jake's wearing a dial a song shirt. sarah ------------------------------ Message-Id: <1.5.4.32.19980707025009.006fd1e0@cybnetonline.com> Date: Mon, 06 Jul 1998 21:50:09 -0500 From: "The Li'l Depressed Boy" Subject: Re: TMBG: Squirt Tv At 10:41 PM 7/6/98 EDT, KdsInThHal@aol.com wrote: > >In a message dated 7/6/98 7:52:40 PM, captainmarvel2@juno.com wrote: > >>I was thinking back today and I remembered something that pissed me off. >>I don't know how many of you remember the short-lived show "Squirt TV" on >>Mtv. >>The theme song for the show was none other than "Minimum Wage". I had it >>taped for a while, but my friend borrowed it and taped over it! >>AARRGGGHHH!!!! >>Does anyone else remember this show? > >yep. i liked that show when it was on comedy central, right before mtv >grabbed it. the host, Jake still uses the show's screen name too. >i have an episode on tape where Scott and Kevin of the Kids in the Hall were >on, and they showed a montage of previous squirt tv's, and in one, Jake's >wearing a dial a song shirt. > The show was originally cable access in NYC. But then it became the *hip* place to make an appearance by bands, so it got picked up by big networks. LDB -- (this site cuts the amount of URL's I put in my Sig) My Web Page Index: http://www.cybnetonline.com/users/njack/ TMBG | D.U.M.B. NEWS | Mr. Gone Font -- Contemporary Cartoon Militia is (C) & TM 1998 S. Steven Struble and Kris W. M. Struble. The Li'l Depressed Boy, Phreeck, Spyder Hunt, and all related characters (C) & TM 1998 S. Steven Struble ------------------------------ Message-Id: <199807070407.AAA13785@ussenterprise.ufp.org> Date: Mon, 06 Jul 1998 23:07:25 -0500 From: Mitchell Harding Subject: Re: TMBG: Bad Words (was The F word) At 12:12 PM 7/6/98 -0700, leonard helfgott wrote: >no, you can't say bitch on t.v, and it is punishable by fine if you say >shit, which means that for all practical purposes, it is illegal, just >like a speeding ticket, you can't get thrown in jail for that, but it is >illegal. I guess you haven't seen the Simpsons or South Park lately... Harf, Mitch ------------------------------ Message-Id: <199807070409.AAA13981@ussenterprise.ufp.org> Date: Mon, 06 Jul 1998 23:09:59 -0500 From: Mitchell Harding Subject: Re: (non?)TMBG: bad words & TMBG Show >Yes and this is FOX your talking about. I swear Fox will be a porn channel >in the next couple years. > >"Wow, FOX turned into a hard core porn channel so gradually I didn't even >notice" - Bart Simpson (I hope I got that quote right) The words are right, but it was Marge that said it. It was in the episode where Lisa visits the fortune teller who tells all about her future. Marge and Homer are in bed in the future, and Marge makes that comment to Homer. Harf, Mitcharf ------------------------------ From: Spoonerism@aol.com Message-ID: <4659cce6.35a1a434@aol.com> Date: Tue, 7 Jul 1998 00:29:39 EDT Subject: TMBG: Website! I'm not sure if anyone's said this yet, but the TMBG Webpage just got a new chatroom! Yea! Last night there was some imposter Moderator in there swearing at everyone, but some of the people seemed nice... -CAsey, who became Stompbox for a little bit last night ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Jul 1998 22:49:01 -0700 (PDT) From: leonard helfgott Subject: Re: TMBG: Bad Words (was The F word) Message-ID: sorry, euphonism. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Jul 1998 22:51:20 -0700 (PDT) From: leonard helfgott Subject: Re: NonTMBG: The Seven Dirty Words Message-ID: so what are the seven deadly words exactly? I'm guessing fuck, shit, *expletive used as an alternative meaning for female gennetalia(sp?) starting with c*, and I'm not quite sure about the rest. Cap'n Helfgott ------------------------------ Message-Id: Date: Tue, 7 Jul 98 01:53 EDT From: kbrodbec@remcen.ehhs.cmich.edu (Kirsten Brodbeck) Subject: Re: NonTMBG: The Seven Dirty Words > >so what are the seven deadly words exactly? I'm guessing fuck, shit, >*expletive used as an alternative meaning for female gennetalia(sp?) >starting with c*, and I'm not quite sure about the rest. lol... Y'know, I find it somewhat interesting that you're willing to say "fuck" and "shit" but shy away from "cunt".. Why is that? Kirsten -- [][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][] "And she said losing love is like a window in your heart Everybody sees you're blown apart..." - Paul Simon "Graceland" Kirsten Brodbeck AKA Crow kbrodbec@remcen.ehhs.cmich.edu ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Jul 1998 22:54:57 -0700 (PDT) From: leonard helfgott Subject: Re: TMBG: Bad Words (was The F word) Message-ID: I'm talking about what the FCC will fine you for. If Letterman said I want to have sex with your big ass, he wouldn't get fined by the FCC, he would get slapped with a sexual harrassment suit, his ratings would plummet, because nobody wants to watch someone who said that, and he would get kicked off the air to save CBS's image. If someone said damn in a children's program, they couldn't be fined, they would be scrutinized, but they couldn't be fined, because it's not breaking any regulation to say damn. Cap'n Helfgott ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Jul 1998 22:55:53 -0700 (PDT) From: leonard helfgott Subject: Re: Bad Words (was The F word) Hey wait, this is NON-TMBG: Message-ID: I thought we went over the fact that off topic was okay, please correct me if I'm wrong. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Jul 1998 22:58:32 -0700 (PDT) From: leonard helfgott Subject: Re: TMBG: Bad Words (was The F word) Message-ID: I think that you aren't supposed to make references to god unless your program is religous based, but it is kind of weird that they bleeped god. I'm willing to bet all that I own that nobody would bleep it if it were in the context of bleep bless you, or thank bleep, so I don't know what's up with that. Cap'n helfgott On Mon, 6 Jul 1998, The Li'l Depressed Boy wrote: > > Though most stations will not air a program with the word > >"Goddamn". The difference between "damn" and "goddamn" is an ocean in the > >eyes of network censors. > > MTV our favorite "We've shown soft-core porn" (not-so-oftenly-played) music > channel, cencors the song Flagpole Sitta by Harvey Danger, and the funny > thing is, they bleep the god not the damn. Is god a cuss word now? That > sure would be funny. God you man! > > God you all! > LDB > -- > (this site cuts the amount of URL's I put in my Sig) > My Web Page Index: > http://www.cybnetonline.com/users/njack/ > TMBG | D.U.M.B. NEWS | Mr. Gone Font > -- > Contemporary Cartoon Militia is (C) & TM 1998 S. Steven Struble and Kris W. > M. Struble. > The Li'l Depressed Boy, Phreeck, Spyder Hunt, and all related characters (C) > & TM 1998 S. Steven Struble > > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Jul 1998 23:00:55 -0700 (PDT) From: leonard helfgott Subject: Re: NonTMBG: The Seven Dirty Words Message-ID: what's wrong with piss? come to think of it, I haven't ever heard it on the air. That's weird. On Mon, 6 Jul 1998, S. Bergeron wrote: > > > :What you're talking about in regard to the swearing stuff is a loosening > :on the interpertation of the words that can and can't be broadcast. > : George Carlin's Seven Dirty Words can never, *EVER* be said over the > :air, but, as many a Dj has pointed out, "You can say 'ass' on the air. > :You can't say 'ass' followed by the name of Courtney Love's band." > : THere are words that you can get away with saying, like "Bitch" or > :"Damn." There's also a "safe harbor" time that allows DJs more freedom > :(usually after 9pm), as it's well after the drive time. > : ahhh.. the FCC! > > > The TMBG List's resident broadcast professional (WPEN-TV Hampton, VA) steps > up to the mic.... > > Fer the record, Carlin's seven words are: > > Shit > Piss > Cunt > Fuck > Cocksucker > Motherfucker > and Tits > > Furthermore, words describing excretory activities, products, or organs are > considered "indecent" under FCC regulations. There used to be a tight belt > around broadcast outlets as far as these violations go. However, one good > thing the Republican Congress has done is severely cut the FCC's staff. For > example, in 1993, the FCC office in Norfolk, VA (covers MD, VA, DC, and NC) > had thirty employees. Since last summer, that number has been a grand total > of two. Many things slip by today, simply because the censors don't hear > it. If you're offended by something said on the radio, you really have to > report it to the FCC to get anything done about it. > > Then again, the decency laws themselves are in doubt, due to the Supreme > Court's ruling last summer on the CDA. The CDA's wording was very similar > to the FCC's broadcast standards....it would reason that the next time a > decency case comes before the court, a similar verdict would be rendered. > > The FCC is what most regulatory agencies are; a mess. It's like the FAA's > dual role (up until the TWA 800 explosion) of promoting air travel and > ensuring safety (two often conflicting goals). If you want to know more, > take a gander at Howard Stern's book, "Miss America." He chronicles > Infinity Broadcasting's (nee CBS/Westinghouse) difficulties with the FCC > over him. > > Jack Bergeron idiotnot@visi.net bluedawg@tmbg.org > http://www.monopuff.org/~bluedawg > "As the light changed from red to green to yellow and back to > red again, I sat there thinking about life. Was it nothing > more than a bunch of honking and yelling? Sometimes it seemed that > way."--Jack Handy > ICQ#5909618 > > ------------------------------ Message-Id: <1.5.4.32.19980707123335.00713828@cybnetonline.com> Date: Tue, 07 Jul 1998 07:33:35 -0500 From: "The Li'l Depressed Boy" Subject: Re: NonTMBG: The Seven Dirty Words At 11:00 PM 7/6/98 -0700, leonard helfgott wrote: >what's wrong with piss? come to think of it, I haven't ever heard it on >the air. That's weird. > Really, huh? Wierd I've heard Piss on the radio and the TV all the time. Especially in british programming, as slang for getting drunk. Scenario: (Cheesy anti-drinking commercial, staring stereotypical british people, note I know you guys aint like that, it's just funny) Willfurd: 'ey old chap, wanna go get pissed? Bufurd: Aw, bugger off! Announcer:Just say "Bugger Off" to getting Pissed. END SCENARIO. Sorry I just needed to make my post longer, LDB -- (this site cuts the amount of URL's I put in my Sig) My Web Page Index: http://www.cybnetonline.com/users/njack/ TMBG | D.U.M.B. NEWS | Mr. Gone Font -- Contemporary Cartoon Militia is (C) & TM 1998 S. Steven Struble and Kris W. M. Struble. The Li'l Depressed Boy, Phreeck, Spyder Hunt, and all related characters (C) & TM 1998 S. Steven Struble ------------------------------ From: mjames@khserver.loyola.edu (Matthew James) Message-Id: <9807071320.AA07801@khserver.loyola.edu> Subject: Re: NON-TMBG: Bad Words Date: Tue, 7 Jul 1998 09:20:34 -0400 (EDT) > That's why "South Park" is able to have such a rich pallet of > obscenities including dozens of "Bitches", "asshole", and the perennially > verboten "goddamn". This raises the question "Why can Cartman say > 'goddamn', which you can't say on CBS, but he CAN'T say 'fuck' without > getting it beeped out?" That's just a simple matter of station policy. > Cartman can't say "fuck" because even though the show bears a rating of > TV-MA (said ratings are voluntary in the industry), the number of > potential complaints and lost viewers (and thereby potential AD REVENUE) > is too great to concern themselves with. That's why when Comedy Central > shows "Vacation" you don't see any boobies, and that's why Cartman don't > say "fuck". I have heard a local FM morning radio station use the word "asshole" many, many times with no FCC intervention. 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For information about and directions to AVWashington, please visit http://www.avwashington.com. ------------------------------ Message-ID: <000d01bda9d3$10777620$a8061ecf@default> From: "Green Jello" Subject: TMBG: The state of the list address Date: Tue, 7 Jul 1998 14:14:18 -0400 Howdy folks... as a long time listee I'm concerned about the state of the list. It's vital that we, as the members of our little happy community, take responsibility for our home. Multiple postings which are mostly quotes... can't we just take small "snippets" of the person's post and comment on them? Quoting the header, the entire message, the sig and 3,000 lines of: > > is just plain ridiculous. Take pride in your postings. Make them concise and well thought out. It makes you look a lot less intelligent when you have 5 messages per day which are 95% quotes and everyone can tell that you spent all of 30 seconds formulating opinions on the topic. Why would anyone NEED to post 5-10 times a day, EVERYDAY? I took a Jello-rific survey of the past 3 digests I've received. Here are some of the results... Cap'n Helfgott posted 19 times in 3 days, many of these are 3 miles long and nearly all fall under the "my posts are 95% quotes & 5% original content" category and he, with a whopping 19 posts, is the king of the "should've posted all their thoughts at once" group Rev. Bill posted 10 times in 3 days, but usually posted more content than quotes (good job, now post less) LDB posted 9 times in 3 days, but he does think his posts through, now if we could get him to just post it in one chunk Mysterio Gal posted 8 times in 3 days, and was high on quotes, low on content as well Mitchell Harding posted 5 times in 1 day LOOOOONNNNGGGGG sigs!!!! It's rude, just plain rude. Same survey different results. Mysterio Gal - 9 line sig!!!!! Rev Bill - 9 line sig!!! LDB - 10 line sig!!!! Danielle, Inspector over the mine - 6 line sig Ethan Jones 7 line sig These do NOT include Juno, Yahoo or other server imposed sigs, but they do include blank lines (basically anything from the first letter or symbol on the line after the name to the last letter or symbol of your sig) It's always been said that 3 lines is plenty, 5 is a tad excessive and anything more than 5 is rude. Josh Buckland, first he does the dumbest thing I've ever seen on the list. Now he uses profanity in every post. Hey buddy, there are kids on this list, too. Use some common sense. I'm actually still for kicking this bum's butt out of here. These are MY gripes. If you can add to them please feel free to do so. If you wish to flame me... please send all threats, deathmail and correspondence to greenjello1973@geocities.com Love, Brother John Green Jello ------------------------------ From: Leo Bicknell Message-Id: <199807071842.OAA25375@ussenterprise.ufp.org> Subject: TMBG: Useful content on the list. Date: Tue, 7 Jul 1998 14:42:22 -0400 (EDT) If you want to know more about the seven dirty words, and see a transcript of the original radio broadcast check out: http://www.aclu.org/action/dirty.html For those unsure of what they should, and should not post, perhaps reading some Emily Postnews answers will help: http://www.mdstud.chalmers.se/misc/txt/emily.html -- Leo Bicknell - bicknell@ufp.org Systems Engineer - Internetworking Engineer - CCIE 3440 Read TMBG List - tmbg-list-request@tmbg.org, www.tmbg.org ------------------------------ Message-ID: <19980707185504.29892.rocketmail@web4.rocketmail.com> Date: Tue, 7 Jul 1998 11:55:04 -0700 (PDT) From: Danielle Gaither Subject: NONTMBG: Ack! Chain letters! ---Lee wrote: Am I the only person who's missed the repeated admonitions NOT TO POST CHAIN LETTERS TO THE LIST? I don't even appreciate receiving such things privately, and I'm sure many other listers feel the same way. Therefore, one can deduce that it's not a good idea to post these things. I'm not one to say "no non-tmbg stuff", but I don't think asking to refrain from crap like this is too much. To the person who criticized my .sig: I really don't think it's that unreasonable, considering the actual content is only 4 lines. At least my .sig isn't longer than my posts (not that I'm saying anyone else's is). Cheer up, it could be worse: I could be a Kibologist. Shortening things a bit just for you, Inspector Over the Mine === URL: http://www.geocities.com/CollegePark/1054/index.html "Should you worry when the skullhead is in front of you, or is it worse because it's always waiting where your eyes don't go?" --They Might Be Giants _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Message-Id: From: The Pope Subject: Re: TMBG: The state of the list address Date: Tue, 7 Jul 1998 14:41:46 -0500 >is just plain ridiculous. Take pride in your postings. Make them concise >and well thought out. It makes you look a lot less intelligent when you >have 5 messages per day which are 95% quotes and everyone can tell that you >spent all of 30 seconds formulating opinions on the topic. Why would anyone >NEED to post 5-10 times a day, EVERYDAY? I took a Jello-rific survey of the >past 3 digests I've received. Here are some of the results... and anyone who takes a survey of past digests for no real reason has to much time on there hands. > LOOOOONNNNGGGGG sigs!!!! It's rude, just plain rude. Same >survey different results. Personally, I don't mind long sigs. Why?? Cause they are at the end of the email. You don't have to read the sigs. When you get to the sig you can stop reading. Many of my friends have 5-10 line sigs and that's 5-10 lines of full content, and they are rather interesting, not RUDE. >These do NOT include Juno, Yahoo or other server imposed sigs, but they do >include blank lines (basically anything from the first letter or symbol on >the line after the name to the last letter or symbol of your sig) It's >always been said that 3 lines is plenty, 5 is a tad excessive and anything >more than 5 is rude. I've never heard this about sigs, but I guess someone always has to restrict creativity. Oh those Juno, Yahoo and other free web email sigs can't be changed or deleted by the user so they are stuck with them. And, by your rules that would limit those people to only a 2 line sig file of their own max. > Josh Buckland, first he does the dumbest thing I've ever seen on >the list. Now he uses profanity in every post. Hey buddy, there are kids >on this list, too. Use some common sense. I'm actually still for kicking >this bum's butt out of here. Yeah well, put a complaint in about him to the admins of the list. >These are MY gripes. If you can add to them please feel free to do so. If >you wish to flame me... please send all threats, deathmail and >correspondence to greenjello1973@geocities.com Yeah these are YOUR personal problems that most of us could give a rats rear about. What, are people suppose to do? Change because you have a problem with how they post or what they do for their sigs?!?! Personally I don't think people want to spend 30 minutes formulating a response to someone's email. Sometime a short respose is the best response, and some people enjoy getting email. From your gripes I can tell you are a person who doesn't like to get mass amounts of email. If you don't like getting umpteen emails then maybe you shouldn't be on lists. Just thought I would gripe about your gripes. : ) >Love, >Brother John Green Jello Also the person who sent that tweety chain mail must have the iq of their shoe size. I hate it when my friends send them to me let alone on a list. Anyway that's one of my rants for today. I don't know what do you think 50/50 for the quote/original ratio. Gosh I hope that's meets your standards. Time to listen to Lincoln. I'm going down to cowtown Jason "Let me flick my bic" Arnold ------------------------------ Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980707154819.006a2bc8@130.127.28.14> Date: Tue, 07 Jul 1998 15:48:19 -0400 From: Adam Tyner Subject: Re: TMBG: The state of the list address At 02:41 PM 7/7/98 -0500, The Pope wrote: > >Personally, I don't mind long sigs. Why?? Cause they are at the end of >the email. You don't have to read the sigs. When you get to the sig you >can stop reading. Many of my friends have 5-10 line sigs and that's 5-10 >lines of full content, and they are rather interesting, not RUDE. Well, you need to bone up on your netiquette. ;) A 4 line sig is considered standard. Anything more _is_ considered to be rude. Besides, what could possibly be so interesting in a sig to require 10 lines? -Adam /=---------------- http://www.he-man.org/ctyner/ ----------------=\ http://www.awod.com/gallery/rwav/ctyner/ The home of He-Man, "Weird Al", Yoo-hoo, Killer Tomatoes, and more! Demented music list admin O- MiSTie #67,326 ------------------------------ From: Happyfroot@aol.com Message-ID: <8ffdf5a.35a28446@aol.com> Date: Tue, 7 Jul 1998 16:25:41 EDT Subject: TMBG: Last Night's Episode of Buffy the Vampire Slayer... Ok, that title is just supposed to be funny (earlier list reference)...anyway.... First of all: TMBG got a bassist named Dan now? Man, that's gotta be confusing...hey, are you going to see they Might Be Giants? Yeah, I'm going to see John & John & Dan & Dan...people will think TMBG fans are nuts or something... Secondly, the SOB in I Palindrome I is there, I think, for irony (probably discussed LONG BEFORE), although it may seem bad to say bitch, what is his mother doing calling him a son of a bitch? F*ck: Is it just me or has anyone else thought about how much this word has evolved. It is the only word in the english language that can be used as a noun, a verb, an abverb, or an adjective (prove me wrong people). It can also be used to express many types of emotion including dibelief, amazement, love, & other wonderful things. "You may have heard some bad things about [it], but [it's] actually pretty cool. What that Maury Povich guy is saying, that's just bullsh*t!" jason "I hate Connie Chung" glastetter ------------------------------ Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19980707161137.00850880@email.psu.edu> Date: Tue, 07 Jul 1998 16:11:37 -0400 From: "J. L. Moquin" Subject: TMBG: Chain letters... *sigh* I hate chain letters. I break them. Or, in my less mellow days, I would send the required number (10 in this case) BACK to the person who sent it to me. If they believed in it enough to send it out once, they've got 10 times the trouble now. I don't do that any more, but others might... Don't send chains to a list, ever. -jennifer, mommy to alice the bean, 8/15/97 UPDATED!! http://www.emprl.psu.edu/~anth/ mailto:jls5@psu.edu "My motto, as I live and learn, Is dig and be dug in return" -- Langston Hughes ------------------------------ Message-Id: From: The Pope Subject: Non-TMBG: Last Night's Episode of Buffy the Vampire Slayer... Date: Tue, 7 Jul 1998 15:40:35 -0500 >**ck: Is it just me or has anyone else thought about how much this word has >evolved. It is the only word in the english language that can be used as a >noun, a verb, an abverb, or an adjective (prove me wrong people). It can also >be used to express many types of emotion including dibelief, amazement, love, >& other wonderful things. "You may have heard some bad things about [it], but >[it's] actually pretty cool. What that Maury Povich guy is saying, that's just >bull$h*t!" I totally agree with you Jason. In fact I have a mp3 that has this old man does a documentary type audio on that word. It is rather humorous because it is totally true what he says about [it]. Also [it] can be used almost as the only word in a full sentence example: **ck the **cking **ckers. Of course, just because it is such a diverse word doesn't mean we should use it more or even at all. What is the World's Address?? ------------------------------ Message-ID: <19980707204620.13871.rocketmail@web4.rocketmail.com> Date: Tue, 7 Jul 1998 13:46:20 -0700 (PDT) From: Danielle Gaither Subject: TMBG: The World's Address ---The Pope wrote: > > What is the World's Address?? "A place that's worn/A sad pun that reflects a sadder mess." A song off of Lincoln, Their 2nd album. Perhaps we should point newbies toward the discography as well as the FAQ. Not trying to be patronizing, Inspector Over the Mine === URL: http://www.geocities.com/CollegePark/1054/index.html "Should you worry when the skullhead is in front of you, or is it worse because it's always waiting where your eyes don't go?" --They Might Be Giants _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Message-Id: From: The Pope Subject: Re: TMBG: The World's Address Date: Tue, 7 Jul 1998 15:58:58 -0500 >> What is the World's Address?? >"A place that's worn/A sad pun that reflects a sadder mess." > >A song off of Lincoln, Their 2nd album. > >Perhaps we should point newbies toward the discography as well as the FAQ. > >Not trying to be patronizing, >Inspector Over the Mine Well, I'm not a newbie and I'm asking for the World's Address. The actual World's Address. I know it's Their song I have that album. It was kind-of a bad pun since you know the song is called The World's Address and I'm asking for the world's address. And well, yeah you know. hmmmm...guess you just didn't get it. I shut up now. : ) Jason Arnold ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Jul 1998 14:07:04 -0700 (PDT) From: leonard helfgott Subject: Re: TMBG: The state of the list address Message-ID: I posted 19 times, huh? How many of them were replies, and also, I find it hard to believe that I have mostly quotes, considering that most of the time, I don't include the post that I'm replying to. I post when there's something I feel is worth posting about. So does the rev, and LDB. Cap'n Helfgott ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Jul 1998 16:11:09 -0500 (CDT) From: "Christopher M. Stangl" Subject: Re: TMBG: Bad Words (was The F word) Message-ID: On Mon, 6 Jul 1998, leonard helfgott wrote: > sorry, euphonism. Try again. Third time's a charm. I suspect you're after "euphemism". -Chris Stangl ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Jul 1998 16:25:06 -0500 (CDT) From: "Christopher M. Stangl" Subject: Re: TMBG: Bad Words (was The F word) Message-ID: On Mon, 6 Jul 1998, leonard helfgott wrote: > I'm talking about what the FCC will fine you for. So am I... I think I made that pretty resoundingly clear... > If Letterman said I want to have sex with your big ass, he wouldn't get > fined by the FCC, The point of said comment was that context is everything in reguards to certain words (particularly body bits and excremental functions). If David Letterman said "I want to put my penis in your ass", he most certainly WOULD be fined (more accurately, CBS would be fined)... despite the fact that the words "penis" and "ass" are both acceptable in other contexts. > he would get slapped with a sexual harrassment suit, ? You made up a scenario... I didn't say "If David Letterman were sexually harassing guests" (there are dozens of other contexts in which fictional-Letterman could've used fictional-phrase is what I'm saying). You let yourself get carried away by the example... Let me try it another way: Even though "butt" and "sex" are fair game, and legitimate words, if Urkle were to turn to Carl Winslow on an upcoming "Family Matters" and say "I'm going to have sex with your butt", there's a problem, despite the fact that "Family Matters" has previously used the very mild word "butt". The point here was CONTEXT. > his ratings would plummet, because nobody wants to watch someone who > said that, 'Scuse me, but if David Letterman turned to Paul Shaffer and said "Paul! You better cut out that goddamn fucking music our I'm going to sex you up the butt", I WOULD want to watch his show more often... > If someone said damn in a children's program, they couldn't be fined, > they would be scrutinized, but they couldn't be fined, because it's not > breaking any regulation to say damn. Wrong. I just went over this. Time, place and context determine appropriateness. Showing an episode of "NYPD Blue" in the middle of the Saturday morning cartoon lineup would be a very potential violation EVEN if it were preceded by its usual disclaimer. -Chris Goddamn Motherfucking Stangl ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Jul 1998 16:27:55 -0500 (CDT) From: "Christopher M. Stangl" Subject: Re: TMBG: Bad Words (was The F word) Message-ID: On Mon, 6 Jul 1998, leonard helfgott wrote: > I think that you aren't supposed to make references to god unless your > program is religous based, You most DEFINITELY think wrong, in that case. That's absolutely ridiculous, and not true in any manner. > but it is kind of weird that they bleeped god. Not really- it's always been that way. Simple reason, really. "God"= okay. "Damn"= okay. "Goddamn"= blasphemy. Granted, it's not MUCH worse really, but that's the way it is. -Chris Stangl ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Jul 1998 16:34:47 -0500 (CDT) From: "Christopher M. Stangl" Subject: Re: NON-TMBG: Bad Words Message-ID: On Tue, 7 Jul 1998, Matthew James wrote: > > That's why "South Park" is able to have such a rich pallet of > > obscenities including dozens of "Bitches", "asshole", and the perennially > > verboten "goddamn". This raises the question "Why can Cartman say > > 'goddamn', which you can't say on CBS, but he CAN'T say 'fuck' without > > getting it beeped out?" That's just a simple matter of station policy. > > Cartman can't say "fuck" because even though the show bears a rating of > > TV-MA (said ratings are voluntary in the industry), the number of > > potential complaints and lost viewers (and thereby potential AD REVENUE) > > is too great to concern themselves with. That's why when Comedy Central > > shows "Vacation" you don't see any boobies, and that's why Cartman don't > > say "fuck". > > I have heard a local FM morning radio station use the word "asshole" > many, many times with no FCC intervention. How do you explain this? Any number of ways to explain that. The most likely being A) I don't know how YOU know there's not being any FCC intervention (you MIGHT know, natch, I'm just sayin'...). If he or she is a popular, familiar personality, and it is worth the meager fines to keep them on the air, the station might simply be taking their blows. Howard Stern's stations have been fined huge amounts, numerous times... why does he still have a job? I'm sure you know... B) I find this more probable: The FCC doesn't KNOW s/he's saying "asshole". The FCC does NOT monitor every single station twenty four hours a day. They simply CAN'T. Unless someone tapes the offensive segment (not likely... "I have to get up early this morning... that DJ is scheduled to say 'asshole' at 5:12, and I wanna tape it!") and complains to the FCC, it's not likely to get noticed. Local radio stations are STILL playing Marilyn Manson's "The Beautiful People" without any removal-of-expletives, though the lyrics contain "shit" and "motherfucker". Why? It's hard to understand the words, and more importantly, NOBODY COMPLAINED. -Chris Stangl ------------------------------ From: KdsInThHal@aol.com Message-ID: <40424028.35a2a00c@aol.com> Date: Tue, 7 Jul 1998 18:24:11 EDT Subject: Re: Re: non TMBG: Bad Words (was The F word) In a message dated 7/7/98 5:27:24 PM, cstangl@blue.weeg.uiowa.eduwrote: > 'Scuse me, but if David Letterman turned to Paul Shaffer and said >"Paul! You better cut out that goddamn fucking music our I'm going to sex >you up the butt", I WOULD want to watch his show more often... by the way, thank you, folks for your wonderful imagery... :\ sarah ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Jul 1998 18:29:46 -0400 (EDT) From: "Harlan L. Landes" Subject: Re: F*CK (was: TMBG: Last Night's Episode of Buffy the Vampire Slayer...) Message-ID: On Tue, 7 Jul 1998 Happyfroot@aol.com wrote: > F*ck: Is it just me or has anyone else thought about how much this word has > evolved. It is the only word in the english language that can be used as a > noun, a verb, an abverb, or an adjective (prove me wrong people). It can also > be used to express many types of emotion including dibelief, amazement, love, > & other wonderful things. "You may have heard some bad things about [it], but > [it's] actually pretty cool. What that Maury Povich guy is saying, that's just > bullsh*t!" It is also the only infix in the English language. You've got your prefixes and suffixes, but f*ck (or a form of it) is the only one that can be inserted inside a word. The only example I can think of right now is unf*ckinbelievable, but I know there are better ones... harlan ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Jul 1998 18:57:55 -0500 (CDT) From: Bill Tatalovich Subject: Re: NON-TMBG: Bad Words, etc. Message-ID: Hey all-- Okay...responses for the day...(for now) Leo (back from hiding, I suppose) said: > If you want to know more about the seven dirty words, > and see a transcript of the original radio broadcast check out: > http://www.aclu.org/action/dirty.html Thank you for posting that, Leo. Everyone else, PLEASE read this before arguing any more about the whole "naughty words" issue. The transcription of the Supreme Court judgement in the FCC v. Pacifica Foundation case is very interesting, although in can tend at times to raise more questions than it answers (but that's kind of the way Supreme Court judgements are written, aren't they?) On Tue, 7 Jul 1998, Matthew James wrote: > I have heard a local FM morning radio station use the word "asshole" > many, many times with no FCC intervention. How do you explain this? OKay....the very vague FCC rule about broadcasting (which I alluded to before, even though nobody paid attention) is that it's bad if it's patently vulgar, offensive, and/or shocking to the audience. The rule is interpreted differently by many different people, and until they are challenged, nothing is really done. Yes, the FCC themselves will challenge you if you use one of the seven dirty words, but once you get outside of that (with "goddamn", "asshole", et al), it's very vague. And until some person calls up the FCC and says "so-and-so of a station just said "asshole", and I'm very disturbed," nothing is done. In fact, with the fact that the FCC was downsized before (as someone mentioned before), the FCC probably won't investigate, or otherwise do anything, until many people complain. Make sense? Sr. Green Jello said: > Rev. Bill posted 10 times in 3 days, but usually posted more content > than quotes (good job, now post less) Wow. I didn't realize that I had posted that much. If a lot of people actually do have a problem with my posting that much, by all means I'll stop. Otherwise, I'm afraid I will continue. And Jello? (not sure how to shorten "Green Jello" into a shorter name, so I figured I'd pay a little homage to Jello Biafra there) You must admit that at least I'm posting somewhat intelligent posts...(at least I like to think so). In general, I think (no offense to Mr. Jello...just my opinion here) that unless there's a lot of people who are downright annoyed with our sig length, posting frequency, etc., there's really no reason to change our behavior. I mean, if it is generally accepted that myself, Little Depressed Boy, Cap'n Helfgott, and the rest of us high-frequency posters are posting too much, yeah, I think we'll all agree to post less. I'm already trying to congeal as many thoughts into one post as I can. And again, if enough people have a problem with it, I'm sure we'll all agree to at least make an effort to post less. We're not THAT inconsiderate here, despite what Bongo says about us... For those of you keeping count, this post has consisted of: quoted lines: 7 empty lines, headers, etc.: 16 lines of actual content: 43 lines in sig: 6 (and that's as good as it's getting) percentage of actual content: 59.7% Which ain't bad, when you're trying to quote multiple posts in one post. Try it yourself. Take it easy, y'all. 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Subject: Re: NON-TMBG: Bad Words, etc. Date: Tue, 07 Jul 1998 17:38:38 PDT >In general, I think (no offense to Mr. Jello...just my opinion here) that >unless there's a lot of people who are downright annoyed with our sig >length, posting frequency, etc., there's really no reason to change our >behavior. I personally have no problem with frequent posters, nor can I think of any reason to even have a problem. However, what does get fairly annoying is when someone rattles off 5 messages in a row with different topics. There's really no reason that I can think of to do this rather than just putting it all in one, touch-all-bases message. Also, what bothers me slightly less is when 3 or 4 people will reply to a post saying the exact same thing. Please, read the ensuing messages before rushing to reply. Make sure you're not repeating what has already been said. (I understand that digest members don't get all the messages immediately, but most of these occurences can be prevented, I'm sure). I hope I'm not coming off as an instagator (sp?), I'm just offering my suggestions. Hmmm... my spelling of Instagator makes it sound like some sort of powdered crocodile (Just add water!)...oh well --Jason "the powdered crocodile" Fickley-- "Hot Cha, where are you? Everybody's eyes are closed." -They Might Be Giants ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Message-ID: <19980708005751.167.rocketmail@web1.rocketmail.com> Date: Tue, 7 Jul 1998 17:57:51 -0700 (PDT) From: Danielle Gaither Subject: Re: TMBG: The World's Address ---The Pope wrote: > > Well, I'm not a newbie and I'm asking for the World's Address. The actual > World's Address. I know it's Their song I have that album. It was kind-of D'oh! You're right, I didn't get it. But since we're on the subject, I'll guess: 3rd planet from the Sun, Milky Way. Or something. > Jason Arnold Feeling like an incredible goober, Inspector Over the Mine === URL: http://www.geocities.com/CollegePark/1054/index.html "Should you worry when the skullhead is in front of you, or is it worse because it's always waiting where your eyes don't go?" --They Might Be Giants _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ End of tmbg-list Digest #8-9 ****************************