Errors-To: owner-tmbg-digest@tmbg.org Reply-To: tmbg-digest@tmbg.org Sender: owner-tmbg-digest@tmbg.org Precedence: bulk From: owner-tmbg-digest@tmbg.org To: tmbg-digest@tmbg.org Subject: tmbg-list Digest #18-29 tmbg-list Digest, Volume 18, Number 29 Tuesday, 29 June 1999 Today's Topics: TMBG: LTW burns TMBG: LTW question TMBG: Interview question TMBG: Re: Paying for LTW TMBG: Re: LTW question Re: TMBG: LTW question Re: TMBG: LTW burns Re: TMBG: LTW burns Re: TMBG: LTW question Re: TMBG: Stealing from the Johns? Re: TMBG: Stealing from the Johns? NON-TMBG: nick drake... Re: TMBG: Stealing from the Johns? Re: TMBG: Stealing from the Johns? TMBG: Re: Paying for LTW TMBG: MP3 question TMBG: Re: Paying for LTW Re: TMBG: Re: Paying for LTW Re: TMBG: Re: Paying for LTW TMBG: Chicago Show TMBG: Re: Chicago Show TMBG: Re: MP3 question Re: TMBG: LTW question Re: TMBG: Interview question Re: TMBG: Re: Paying for LTW Re: TMBG: MP3 question Re: TMBG: LTW burns TMBG: Re: Paying for LTW Administrivia: If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing send mail to tmbg-digest-request@tmbg.org for instructions on how to be automatically removed. --------------------------------------------------------------------- The views expressed herein are those of the individual authors. --------------------------------------------------------------------- tmbg-list is digested with Digest 3.5b (John Relph ). ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message-ID: <19990628154453.54140.qmail@hotmail.com> From: Flaming Carrot Subject: TMBG: LTW burns Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 10:44:53 CDT I think the best solution is for the people who cannot download LTW for whatever reasons should submit a notarized appilcation in triplicate to the Giants' Council for review by the board members and by J & J themselves to determine that the candidate is indeed worthy and truly in need of a burned copy of the CD. In this way we will guarantee to stamp out piracy of TMBG on the internet. Bjorky BTW another really cool idea is to send the check to J & J like Bart did on the simpsons so you could have their autograph on the cancelled check (except on the simpsons, Krusty only stamped the back with the endorsement of his secret illegal offshore account....and then he was taken down by the IRS and all his pornography was sold off at auction...and he had to fake his own death.....on second thought, maybe we shouldn't send the money directly to the johns after all) _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------ From: SNLgirl7@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 11:33:50 EDT Subject: TMBG: LTW question Hey, I just joined the mailing list, and I have some questions: 1. What is LTW? (I know, I'm stupid). 2. When's the next time TMBG will be playing in the Los Angeles area? -Lindsey BTW: The line from "boot to the head" is really as follows: "Well, a great defense is a good offense." ------------------------------ From: Matt James Message-Id: <199906281627.MAA06507@fellspt.charm.net> Subject: TMBG: Interview question Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 12:27:43 -0400 (EDT) With all of this discussion about LTW, I thought it'd be a great interview question to ask them what they think about fans who either don't have a computer, or don't have access to the website to get LTW. I wonder what they'd say about this demographic? Do you think they'd give the answer: "This album is only intended for the technically inclined" or do you think they'd be more sympathetic to non-mp3ers? We've got the dates coming up in Chicago, St. Louis, and Colorado, maybe we have a cub reporter out there who has the opportunity to interview them? -Matt ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 11:21:35 -0600 From: "Jeremiah" Message-ID: <7l8av1$2u8g$1@ussenterprise.ufp.org> Organization: They Might Be Giants, Unofficially http://www.tmbg.org Subject: TMBG: Re: Paying for LTW > If you don't have the abillity to download and/or play LTW, may I >suggest that you simply give the money to someone else and have them >download and burn it for you, even if they already have it on their >computer. While this might seem abit redundant, it will insure the >money goes to the right people. Seems a whole lot easier then trying >to send personal checks to J&J... > > -David > This is the most wise idea I've heard so far. Jeremiah without a nifty signature ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 11:26:04 -0600 From: "Jeremiah" Message-ID: <7l8b7e$2ucs$1@ussenterprise.ufp.org> Organization: They Might Be Giants, Unofficially http://www.tmbg.org Subject: TMBG: Re: LTW question > >1. What is LTW? (I know, I'm stupid). > Long Tall Weekend: New TMBG album which will only be available on the Net in .mp3 form. >2. When's the next time TMBG will be playing in the Los Angeles area? > No freaking idea. Jeremiah- I promise I'll think of a signature someday ------------------------------ Message-ID: <19990628173925.89126.qmail@hotmail.com> From: Nathan Mulac DeHoff Subject: Re: TMBG: LTW question Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 10:39:24 PDT Lindsey wrote: >Hey, I just joined the mailing list, and I have some questions: > >1. What is LTW? (I know, I'm stupid). Long Tall Weekend, an MP3-only album of TMBG songs. Either that or "Linnell Tries Weeding." >2. When's the next time TMBG will be playing in the Los Angeles >area? I don't know. >BTW: The line from "boot to the head" is really as follows: "Well, >a >great defense is a good offense." -- May the light shine upon thee, Nathan Mulac "People talking in movie shows, people smoking in bed..." DeHoff DinnerBell@tmbg.org http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Corridor/5447/ _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------ Message-ID: <19990628174154.10798.qmail@hotmail.com> From: Nathan Mulac DeHoff Subject: Re: TMBG: LTW burns Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 10:41:54 PDT Sorry, boss, I can't come to work tomorrow. I have severe Long Tall Weekend burns. -- May the light shine upon thee, Nathan Mulac "This has been another useless post" DeHoff DinnerBell@tmbg.org http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Corridor/5447/ _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 13:06:48 -0500 From: Mike Leffel Message-ID: <3777B9B8.812F96B1@conpoint.com> Organization: They Might Be Giants, Unofficially http://www.tmbg.org Subject: Re: TMBG: LTW burns Nathan Mulac DeHoff wrote: > > Sorry, boss, I can't come to work tomorrow. I have severe Long Tall Weekend > burns. > -- "Hello, My name is LTW Burns. I believe you have a letter for me." "Okay, mister LTW Burns, what's your first name?" "I don't know." Mike "Excellent!" Leffel --hopped up on goofballs. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 14:14:47 -0400 Subject: Re: TMBG: LTW question Message-ID: <19990628.141447.24502.0.hotel_detective1@juno.com> From: "Cap'n eriKa rae" N.M.DeH.: >Either that or "Linnell Tries Weeding." My favorite lawn care show from urban New York! He's like Martha Stewart, only better looking. I bet he can set an entire dinner for twelve with only a turnip, a cardboard box and some oregano, and it'll be damn well amazing! >Sorry, boss, I can't come to work tomorrow. I have severe Long Tall Weekend >burns. I hate it when that happens. But Linnell can make a soothing salve for it out of toe nail polish and a lawn chair! I wonder if I can call out of work with this excuse... hm... >Nathan Mulac "This has been another useless post" DeHoff Ayuh, this 'un too. Whee! ever-sincere, eriKa, I bet yer down 'cause your mom's dead, huh? "It's been cool to be cool for too long now and now it's cool not to be cool." - Ben Folds "Sexual frustration is caused by the Discovery Channel." - Kevan Peden ___________________________________________________________________ Get the Internet just the way you want it. Free software, free e-mail, and free Internet access for a month! Try Juno Web: http://dl.www.juno.com/dynoget/tagj. ------------------------------ Message-ID: <003501bec191$acb1ba60$c9b3a4c1@squid> From: "Uncle Squid" Subject: Re: TMBG: Stealing from the Johns? Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 19:11:30 +0100 >> Or maybe everyone who wants a burned copy should have to bring John and John >> A SHRUBBERY! That would us to visit Brian the shrubber... >No no no!!! That's far too simple... I think the Johns would like to see someone >cut down a very tall tree with......... A HERRING!!! or maybe they should make us answer 3 questions: What... is your name? What... is your favorite colour? What... is your quest? to which many would reply, "I didn't expect the Spanish Inquisition!". Then the said Spanish inquisition would walk in and say, "nobody suspects the Spanish Inquisition!". Would it not just be simpler to pay for the bloody MP3 and spare us all from quoting Monty Python sketches??? I'm going with the paying someone to d/load it and burn it for me. How it'll work considering that I'm in the UK, I don't know but where there's a dead parrot, a lumberjack or a killer rabbit, there's a way! -- Uncle "What do you mean, too much Monty Python is bad for my social skills" Squid. Leffel likes my name! RAH! ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 12:26:59 -0600 (MDT) From: Jim Kuemmerle Subject: Re: TMBG: Stealing from the Johns? Message-ID: On Mon, 28 Jun 1999, Uncle Squid wrote: > or maybe they should make us answer 3 questions: make it 4: > What... is your name? > What... is your favorite colour? > What... is your quest? What... about Careless Santa? --jim kuemmerle, who's a useless waste of bandwidth this morning... j.kuemmerle@m.cc.utah.edu http://www.geocities.com/soho/gallery/4668/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 12:31:12 -0600 (MDT) From: Jim Kuemmerle Subject: NON-TMBG: nick drake... Message-ID: hey everybody... i just got through listening to my first nick drake cd (he's a brilliant but 25-years-dead singer/songwriter) and i was wondering if anybody else here was a fan of his stuff. --jim kuemmerle, who's a poor boy so keen to find a wife... j.kuemmerle@m.cc.utah.edu http://www.geocities.com/soho/gallery/4668/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 13:43:10 -0500 From: "UncleSquid!" Message-ID: <3777C23E.847DEE33@conpoint.com> Organization: They Might Be Giants, Unofficially http://www.tmbg.org Subject: Re: TMBG: Stealing from the Johns? > Leffel likes my name! RAH! Your name stinks like skunkies! ^_^ Mike "Nephew Squid" Leffel ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 13:45:36 -0500 From: Mike Leffel Message-ID: <3777C2D0.A184B044@conpoint.com> Organization: Leffel Brand Adult Undergarments Subject: Re: TMBG: Stealing from the Johns? Sorry about that! ^__^ I had another Adopt-A-Name phase! love, Bill "Foxtrot!" Amend ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 13:52:19 -0500 From: AKA Bob Scott Message-ID: <3777C463.D116C529@conpoint.com> Organization: They Might Be Giants, Unofficially http://www.tmbg.org Subject: TMBG: Re: Paying for LTW Jeremiah wrote: > > If you don't have the abillity to download and/or play LTW, may I > >suggest that you simply give the money to someone else and have them > >download and burn it for you, even if they already have it on their > >computer. While this might seem abit redundant, it will insure the > >money goes to the right people. Seems a whole lot easier then trying > >to send personal checks to J&J... > > > > -David > > This is the most wise idea I've heard so far. But what about the fact that some of these people (the Bunsens, I'll call those who will burn the CDs) will obviously pay for only 1 LTW, and profit off of most of the requests they receive for burnt CDs of LTW. Is this what we want? I'm not saying that every Bunsen is going to be a ruthless Entrepreneur, out to make money at any cost, but I am just saying that in any group of people, there's always gonna be at least one who needs to ask himself 2 questions: 1. What would the John's think 2. Is it really worth it? 3... 3 questions... 3. Did you expect the Spanish Inquisition? AKA Bob "Officially needing to download LTW" Scott ------------------------------ From: SNLgirl7@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 15:36:01 EDT Subject: TMBG: MP3 question What is an MP3? And will LTW be released on CD? ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 14:20:12 -0600 From: "Jeremiah" Message-ID: <7l8ldu$466$1@ussenterprise.ufp.org> Organization: They Might Be Giants, Unofficially http://www.tmbg.org Subject: TMBG: Re: Paying for LTW >But what about the fact that some of these people (the Bunsens, I'll call >those who will burn the CDs) will obviously pay for only 1 LTW, and profit >off of most of the requests they receive for burnt CDs of LTW. Is this what >we want? I'm not saying that every Bunsen is going to be a ruthless >Entrepreneur, out to make money at any cost, but I am just saying that in >any group of people, there's always gonna be at least one who needs to ask >himself 2 questions: >1. What would the John's think >2. Is it really worth it? >3... 3 questions... >3. Did you expect the Spanish Inquisition? > >AKA Bob "Officially needing to download LTW" Scott Okay, here's a plan that I think everyone should follow. If you don't have a cd burner, then find someone who does and purchase LTW on the Net and then have that person burn it for you. If they do it for free then good for you, if they charge you additional for you not having a cd burner then good for them. People, pay for what you want. These people deserve to get paid for the wonderful work they do. Jeremiah -I'm getting older every minute ------------------------------ From: Matt James Message-Id: <199906282038.QAA12888@fellspt.charm.net> Subject: Re: TMBG: Re: Paying for LTW Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 16:38:05 -0400 (EDT) > >But what about the fact that some of these people (the Bunsens, I'll call > >those who will burn the CDs) will obviously pay for only 1 LTW, and profit > >off of most of the requests they receive for burnt CDs of LTW. Is this what > >we want? I'm not saying that every Bunsen is going to be a ruthless > >Entrepreneur, out to make money at any cost, but I am just saying that in > >any group of people, there's always gonna be at least one who needs to ask > >himself 2 questions: > >1. What would the John's think > >2. Is it really worth it? > >3... 3 questions... > >3. Did you expect the Spanish Inquisition? > > > >AKA Bob "Officially needing to download LTW" Scott > > > Okay, here's a plan that I think everyone should follow. If you don't have > a cd burner, then find someone who does and purchase LTW on the Net and then > have that person burn it for you. If they do it for free then good for you, > if they charge you additional for you not having a cd burner then good for > them. People, pay for what you want. These people deserve to get paid for > the wonderful work they do. > I would imagine that this is mostly directed to those people who cannot download mp3s and do not know *anyone* who can download it nor burn it for them. You see, there are some people out there who have no avenue to purchase this album unless you are willing to send money to a total stranger (which some have done, but others avoid like the plague). -Matt ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 14:41:43 -0600 From: "Jeremiah" Message-ID: <7l8mm8$51p$1@ussenterprise.ufp.org> Organization: They Might Be Giants, Unofficially http://www.tmbg.org Subject: Re: TMBG: Re: Paying for LTW Matt James wrote in message <199906282038.QAA12888@fellspt.charm.net>... >> >But what about the fact that some of these people (the Bunsens, I'll call >> >those who will burn the CDs) will obviously pay for only 1 LTW, and profit >> >off of most of the requests they receive for burnt CDs of LTW. Is this what >> >we want? I'm not saying that every Bunsen is going to be a ruthless >> >Entrepreneur, out to make money at any cost, but I am just saying that in >> >any group of people, there's always gonna be at least one who needs to ask >> >himself 2 questions: >> >1. What would the John's think >> >2. Is it really worth it? >> >3... 3 questions... >> >3. Did you expect the Spanish Inquisition? >> > >> >AKA Bob "Officially needing to download LTW" Scott >> >> >> Okay, here's a plan that I think everyone should follow. If you don't have >> a cd burner, then find someone who does and purchase LTW on the Net and then >> have that person burn it for you. If they do it for free then good for you, >> if they charge you additional for you not having a cd burner then good for >> them. People, pay for what you want. These people deserve to get paid for >> the wonderful work they do. >> >I would imagine that this is mostly directed to those people who cannot >download mp3s and do not know *anyone* who can download it nor burn it >for them. You see, there are some people out there who have no avenue >to purchase this album unless you are willing to send money to a >total stranger (which some have done, but others avoid like the plague). Yes, I am assuming that most people at least know someone who knows someone who knows someone who has a cd burner and the ability to download the album. My apologies to those who can't, and They can't win them all. -Jeremiah I'm older still ------------------------------ From: DKocar@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 16:49:38 EDT Subject: TMBG: Chicago Show Does anyone have any info on the July 9th show in Chicago? I'm actually thinking of driving out there for it, as I'm *starving* for a TMBG show. Yeah, I saw one 2 months ago but nevermind. :-) Anyway, info on tickets, time, place, would be extremely helpful. Thanks. Diana ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 16:55:17 -0500 From: "Jay G." Message-ID: <7l8q9t$7g3$1@ussenterprise.ufp.org> Organization: They Might Be Giants, Unofficially http://www.tmbg.org Subject: TMBG: Re: Chicago Show wrote in message news:eb34a71c.24a939e2@aol.com... > Does anyone have any info on the July 9th show in Chicago? I'm actually > thinking of driving out there for it, as I'm *starving* for a TMBG show. > Yeah, I saw one 2 months ago but nevermind. :-) > > Anyway, info on tickets, time, place, would be extremely helpful. Thanks. carlyn nugent sent this info to ths list a couple days ago: July 9,10, & 11 Taste of Randolph Street Randolph Street corridor near the intersection of Halsted 773-472-9046 for info That's all I could find...This is an outdoor street fair, by the way. -Jay ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 16:52:13 -0500 From: "Jay G." Message-ID: <7l8q47$7d3$1@ussenterprise.ufp.org> Organization: They Might Be Giants, Unofficially http://www.tmbg.org Subject: TMBG: Re: MP3 question wrote in message news:a12901e5.24a928a1@aol.com... > What is an MP3? Essentially, MP3 is a sound format, just like WAVs. However, it's different because it uses a compression technology to make the file small while still being high quality. More info on how MP3's work can be found at: http://www.mp3.com/faq/ You need a special player to listen to mp3's. I use www.winamp.com If you use a Mac, you can use www.macamp.com Emusic sells the right for you to download the mp3s from their site. This is implimented by password-protected pages and such. However, the mp3s themselves are not password-protected, so once someone downloads it from Goodnoise, they could post it somewhere else, free for all. This is one of the problems about an mp3 album, in that piracy of it is that much easier. > And will LTW be released on CD? Long Tall Weekend is called an "mp3 only" album, which means it will be released on CD on the 12th of Never. -Jay ------------------------------ From: tmbgirl@juno.com Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 15:47:02 -0600 Subject: Re: TMBG: LTW question Message-ID: <19990628.155815.17294.1.TMBgirl@juno.com> >2. When's the next time TMBG will be playing in the Los Angeles area? MWAHAHAAA!! good luck. may i remind you all... it's just a full days drive away. LA to denver. well worth the two shows going on out here :D if you wanna take greyhound (they've got great 2 for 1 deals) i'm more than willing to drive ya around... may possibly even have a house then so if you need floor space... get in touch :D take it easy, JOrdaN http://www2.netcom.com/~arnot/joda/bootlegs.html ___________________________________________________________________ Get the Internet just the way you want it. Free software, free e-mail, and free Internet access for a month! Try Juno Web: http://dl.www.juno.com/dynoget/tagj. ------------------------------ From: tmbgirl@juno.com Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 15:41:17 -0600 Subject: Re: TMBG: Interview question Message-ID: <19990628.155815.17294.0.TMBgirl@juno.com> >and Colorado, >maybe we have a cub reporter out there who has the opportunity >to interview them? i'll see what i can do. it totally depends on whether or not they actually get an interview at KTCL this time or not... take it easy, JOrdaN http://www2.netcom.com/~arnot/joda/bootlegs.html ___________________________________________________________________ Get the Internet just the way you want it. Free software, free e-mail, and free Internet access for a month! Try Juno Web: http://dl.www.juno.com/dynoget/tagj. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 19:12:07 -0700 From: Sarah Subject: Re: TMBG: Re: Paying for LTW Message-id: <37782B77.5335@wmich.edu> > Okay, here's a plan that I think everyone should follow. If you don't have > a cd burner, then find someone who does and purchase LTW on the Net and then > have that person burn it for you. If they do it for free then good for you, > if they charge you additional for you not having a cd burner then good for > them. People, pay for what you want. These people deserve to get paid for > the wonderful work they do. Hey, Hey... good idea. (I only say that 'cuz that's why I'm gonna do ) I just happen to be lucky enuf to have a friend who will download and burn it for me :) Now if it would just be released already........ > Jeremiah > > -I'm getting older every minute And you even have a sig now! ~Sarah, who finally saw Austin Powers II.... "Sexxy Man, Sexxy Man, eating the things a Sexxy man can" ------------------------------ Message-ID: <19990628230600.45193.qmail@hotmail.com> From: Nathan Mulac DeHoff Subject: Re: TMBG: MP3 question Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 16:06:00 PDT SNLgirl7 wrote: >What is an MP3? Some sort of high-quality sound file that people play on their computers. I'm not sure what it stands for, or what the technical details are, or anything like that. >And will LTW be released on CD? No. -- May the light shine upon thee, Nathan Mulac "Maybe MP3 stands for 'Matt's Piggybank 3'" DeHoff DinnerBell@tmbg.org http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Corridor/5447/ _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------ Message-ID: <19990628230705.35291.qmail@hotmail.com> From: Nathan Mulac DeHoff Subject: Re: TMBG: LTW burns Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 16:07:05 PDT Mike Leffel wrote: >"Hello, My name is LTW Burns. I believe you have a letter for me." >"Okay, mister LTW Burns, what's your first name?" >"I don't know." Great plan, Mike. -- May the light shine upon thee, Nathan Mulac "Hercules and the Lion" DeHoff DinnerBell@tmbg.org http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Corridor/5447/ _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 22:08:38 -0400 Subject: TMBG: Re: Paying for LTW Message-ID: <19990628.220843.22270.0.hotel_detective1@juno.com> From: "Cap'n eriKa rae" Matt James imagined: >I would imagine that this is mostly directed to those people who cannot >download mp3s and do not know *anyone* who can download it nor burn it >for them. You see, there are some people out there who have no avenue >to purchase this album unless you are willing to send money to a >total stranger (which some have done, but others avoid like the plague). Yeah. That'd be me. I can't be the only freakin' person out there in this position. Jeremiah assumed: >Yes, I am assuming that most people at least know someone who knows someone >who knows someone who has a cd burner and the ability to download the album. My sixth grade teacher told me never to assume - it makes an ass out of u and me (har de har har). Of course, she never said "ass," that'd be corrupting young minds, but the insinuation was clear enough. >My apologies to those who can't, and They can't win them all. Well, dammit, I'm tired of getting screwed out of everything. I've never seen 'em in concert, I've yet to hear any of this slick stuff, Older and Edith Head and all that happy crappy, and now I have no way of getting Long Tall Weekend. DAMMIT! Man, I am really whining a lot. I'm sorry, and I'll shut up now. ever-sincere, eriKa, I have needs too. Music needs. Giant needs. "It's been cool to be cool for too long now and now it's cool not to be cool." - Ben Folds "Sexual frustration is caused by the Discovery Channel." - Kevan Peden ___________________________________________________________________ Get the Internet just the way you want it. Free software, free e-mail, and free Internet access for a month! Try Juno Web: http://dl.www.juno.com/dynoget/tagj. ------------------------------ End of tmbg-list Digest #18-29 ******************************