Errors-To: owner-tmbg-digest@tmbg.org Reply-To: tmbg-digest@tmbg.org Sender: owner-tmbg-digest@tmbg.org Precedence: bulk From: owner-tmbg-digest@tmbg.org To: tmbg-digest@tmbg.org Subject: tmbg-list Digest #21-18 tmbg-list Digest, Volume 21, Number 18 Saturday, 18 September 1999 Today's Topics: TMBG: the list of who sings what Re: TMBG: String Theory Re: TMBG: String Theory Re: TMBG: String Theory TMBG: 10/29/99 TMBG: Questions raised by Wiredplanet Re: TMBG: String Theory Re: TMBG: String Theory Re: TMBG: Questions raised by Wiredplanet TMBG: TMBG is going down....hill Re: TMBG: TMBG is going down....hill TMBG: Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1999 14:25:20 EDT TMBG: On MP3's and discrimination... Re: TMBG: Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1999 14:25:20 EDT TMBG: MP3 album Re: TMBG: String Theory TMBG: Gripes (was: MP3 Album) TMBG: Re: String Theory and the rest of BNW Re: TMBG: String Theory Re: TMBG: MP3 album Re: TMBG: Gripes (was: MP3 Album) RE: TMBG: Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1999 14:25:20 EDT TMBG: Re: TMBG is going down....hill TMBG: Re: (none) TMBG: Re: TMBG is going down....hill Re: TMBG: Re: TMBG is going down....hill TMBG: Re: TMBG is going down....hill Re: TMBG: MP3 album Re: TMBG: Re: (none) Re: TMBG: Re: (none) Re: TMBG: Re: (none) TMBG: Pittsburgh Show Administrivia: If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing send mail to tmbg-digest-request@tmbg.org for instructions on how to be automatically removed. --------------------------------------------------------------------- The views expressed herein are those of the individual authors. --------------------------------------------------------------------- tmbg-list is digested with Digest 3.5b (John Relph ). ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message-ID: <19990917101853.24362.qmail@hotmail.com> From: "Crystal Cooper" Subject: TMBG: the list of who sings what Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1999 03:18:52 PDT i've been trying to go to this address http://umn.edu/~cab/whosings.txt to get the list of which john sings what and it keeps telling me it can't connect. does anyone have the list and can you send it to me please at DrPyser@tmbg.org? thank you. Crystal ~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~ you in the back there, won't you stand up? tell the rest of the world what you're laughing at -- ben folds, "clueless" e-mail me: DrPyser@tmbg.org My webpage, featuring Ben Folds Five and They Might Be Giants: http://fly.to/drpyser ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ From: EmarZero@aol.com Message-ID: <3e93ae87.251391a2@aol.com> Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1999 08:44:18 EDT Subject: Re: TMBG: String Theory > I too just saw it. It was weird, and scary, and I never want to see Linnell > and Flansy as Death Metal types, ever ever ever again! Oh, I liked it. Seeing They Might Be Manson was pretty wacky, especially all the fake piercings. Plus, Flans jsut looked wacky in that top hat.... ------------------------------ From: "Lee Steel" Date: Fri, 17 Sep 99 09:22:31 EDT Subject: Re: TMBG: String Theory Message-Id: <199909170922.SM00313@megahits.com> I currently have several extra copies of some very good sounding bootleg shows on CD. If anyone is interested in trading 2 for 1 blank media or has a show on CD to trade please e-mail me privately. mailto:lees@megahits.com ------------------------------ From: DKocar@aol.com Message-ID: <5bad0d2.2513a84b@aol.com> Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1999 10:20:59 EDT Subject: Re: TMBG: String Theory NO!!!!! I missed it again. :-( Reminders, reminders!!! Ah well, too late now I suppose. Does anyone have a tape of all the episodes they appeared in, and are willing to send me a copy if I send money for shipping and the cost of the tape? I would be very thankful. Diana ------------------------------ From: "Lee Steel" Date: Fri, 17 Sep 99 10:29:29 EDT Subject: TMBG: 10/29/99 Message-Id: <199909171029.SM00313@megahits.com> Tickets for the Toads Place show on 10/29 are now on sale at Ticketmasters Website. ------------------------------ Message-ID: <19990917143557.55087.qmail@hotmail.com> From: "Chris Haufschild" Subject: TMBG: Questions raised by Wiredplanet Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1999 09:36:45 -0500 I have a couple of questions that I hope could be answered by someone more knowledgable then myself. While listening to radio they might be giants, I have notived songs from an album entitled They Might Be Giants Live. I have never heard of this album. Where can I get it? The second question came from the annotation from a song that is from a hello CD. It said that you can sign up at TMBG.com for it. Isn't the Hello CD of the month club dead? I hope that someone will come to my aid in this. Chris Haufschild chaufschild@hotmail.com [Attachment omitted, unknown MIME type or encoding (text/html)] I almost downright hated it. Mostly because I had a few friends in my dorm room and they, other then hearing Partical Man and Istambol, don't know who TMBG are. So I was all psyched about them being able to see the John's. Not only were they scared, after seing them in that episode, but absolutely could not believe that I listen to them. Out of fear of someone actually disliking the giants, I made a quick recovery and showed them the "stills" that someone, I forget who, had made of "Older." In my opinion, it was not a good way to end the show, or season. -A EmarZero@aol.com wrote: > > > I too just saw it. It was weird, and scary, and I never want to see Linnell > > and Flansy as Death Metal types, ever ever ever again! > > Oh, I liked it. Seeing They Might Be Manson was pretty wacky, especially all the fake piercings. Plus, Flans jsut looked wacky in that top hat.... From owner-tmbg-list@tmbg.org Fri Sep 17 11:31:39 1999 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by ussenterprise.ufp.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id LAA77560 for tmbg-list-outgoing; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 11:31:39 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from owner-tmbg-list@tmbg.org) Received: from hotmail.com (f31.hotmail.com [207.82.250.42]) by ussenterprise.ufp.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) with SMTP id LAA77551 for ; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 11:31:38 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from xornom@hotmail.com) Received: (qmail 28002 invoked by uid 0); 17 Sep 1999 15:31:07 -0000 Message-ID: <19990917153107.28001.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 144.80.104.94 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 08:31:07 PDT X-Originating-IP: [144.80.104.94] From: "Nathan Mulac DeHoff" To: tmbg-list@tmbg.org Subject: Re: TMBG: String Theory Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1999 08:31:07 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Sender: owner-tmbg-list@tmbg.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: "Nathan Mulac DeHoff" EmarZero wrote: > > I too just saw it. It was weird, and scary, and I never want to see >Linnell > > and Flansy as Death Metal types, ever ever ever again! > >Oh, I liked it. Seeing They Might Be Manson was pretty wacky, >especially >all the fake piercings. Plus, Flans jsut looked wacky in >that top hat.... I had a hard time believing that it was really Them. I kept thinking stuff like "This must be the TMBG appearance they promised us. But these guys don't sound like TMBG. Oh, wait. That singer does sound like Flans. And that drummer looks a little bit like Dan Hickey." It's reassuring to know that it really was Them, and I suppose it shows Their amazing musical range. -- Yours 'til my head falls off Nathan DinnerBell@tmbg.org http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Corridor/5447/ ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From owner-tmbg-list@tmbg.org Fri Sep 17 11:37:29 1999 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by ussenterprise.ufp.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id LAA77878 for tmbg-list-outgoing; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 11:37:29 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from owner-tmbg-list@tmbg.org) Received: from hotmail.com (f240.hotmail.com [207.82.251.131]) by ussenterprise.ufp.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) with SMTP id LAA77869 for ; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 11:37:28 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from xornom@hotmail.com) Received: (qmail 78703 invoked by uid 0); 17 Sep 1999 15:36:57 -0000 Message-ID: <19990917153657.78702.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 144.80.104.94 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 08:36:57 PDT X-Originating-IP: [144.80.104.94] From: "Nathan Mulac DeHoff" To: tmbg-list@tmbg.org Subject: Re: TMBG: Questions raised by Wiredplanet Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1999 08:36:57 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Sender: owner-tmbg-list@tmbg.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: "Nathan Mulac DeHoff" Chris Haufschild wrote: >I have a couple of questions that I hope could be answered by >someone >more knowledgable then myself. Ah. Probably not me, then. >While listening to radio they might be giants, I have notived songs >from >an album entitled They Might Be Giants Live. I have never heard >of this >album. Where can I get it? I really don't know, but I would guess that this refers to either Severe Tire Damage (which is widely available) or Live!! NYC (which was a radio promo, and was also given out to Hello subscribers at one point). >The second question came from the annotation from a song that is from >a >hello CD. It said that you can sign up at TMBG.com for it. Isn't >the >Hello CD of the month club dead? Hello is defunct, but you can still order some of their old packages. Check tmbg.com for details. -- Yours 'til my head falls off Nathan DinnerBell@tmbg.org http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Corridor/5447/ ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From owner-tmbg-list@tmbg.org Fri Sep 17 12:21:53 1999 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by ussenterprise.ufp.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id MAA79652 for tmbg-list-outgoing; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 12:21:53 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from owner-tmbg-list@tmbg.org) Received: from hotmail.com (f107.law4.hotmail.com [216.33.149.107]) by ussenterprise.ufp.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) with SMTP id MAA79643 for ; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 12:21:51 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from rumblegut8912@hotmail.com) Received: (qmail 1552 invoked by uid 0); 17 Sep 1999 16:21:20 -0000 Message-ID: <19990917162120.1551.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 216.69.206.46 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 09:21:20 PDT X-Originating-IP: [216.69.206.46] From: "Stacky Acha" To: tmbg-list@tmbg.org Subject: TMBG: TMBG is going down....hill Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1999 12:21:20 EDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Sender: owner-tmbg-list@tmbg.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: "Stacky Acha" Whatever happened to the good old pre-John Henry days when TMBG was decent? What the hell has happened to the Johns lately? Flansburgh is trying his hardest to imitate Frank Black, while Linnell cranks out tunes that seem to have less thought put into them than the dial-a-songs. And what's with the mp3 only album? What a crock of shite! Is it that hard to find a freakin' music label that will put out their stuff on CD. They have enough of a cult following that they will make money with any recording company. The mp3's also exclude lots of fans who don't have computers, or regular computer access. It's becoming a form of fan discrimination. "If'n you ain't a techy, then screw you! You's ain't gonna hear our album!" Cheers! Rumbly ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From owner-tmbg-list@tmbg.org Fri Sep 17 12:33:43 1999 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by ussenterprise.ufp.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id MAA80148 for tmbg-list-outgoing; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 12:33:43 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from owner-tmbg-list@tmbg.org) Received: from mail.airmail.net (mail.airmail.net [206.66.12.40]) by ussenterprise.ufp.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) with SMTP id MAA80135 for ; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 12:33:41 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from destinb@airmail.net) Received: from airmail.net from [38.193.193.48] by mail.airmail.net (/\##/\ Smail3.1.30.16 #30.405) with esmtp for sender: id ; Fri, 17 Sep 99 11:33:38 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <37E26CD8.3346E029@airmail.net> Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1999 11:31:20 -0500 From: Destin Berthelot X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Stacky Acha CC: tmbg-list@tmbg.org Subject: Re: TMBG: TMBG is going down....hill References: <19990917162120.1551.qmail@hotmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-tmbg-list@tmbg.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: Destin Berthelot If you're going to hate the songs so much, what do you care if they put them on CD? You've got two contradictory bitches in effect here. Destin Stacky Acha wrote: > Whatever happened to the good old pre-John Henry days when TMBG was decent? > What the hell has happened to the Johns lately? Flansburgh is trying his > hardest to imitate Frank Black, while Linnell cranks out tunes that seem to > have less thought put into them than the dial-a-songs. > > And what's with the mp3 only album? What a crock of shite! Is it that hard > to find a freakin' music label that will put out their stuff on CD. They > have enough of a cult following that they will make money with any recording > company. The mp3's also exclude lots of fans who don't have computers, or > regular computer access. It's becoming a form of fan discrimination. > > "If'n you ain't a techy, then screw you! You's ain't gonna hear our album!" > > Cheers! > > Rumbly > > ______________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From owner-tmbg-list@tmbg.org Fri Sep 17 14:25:52 1999 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by ussenterprise.ufp.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id OAA83966 for tmbg-list-outgoing; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 14:25:52 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from owner-tmbg-list@tmbg.org) Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1999 14:25:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hotmail.com (f125.law4.hotmail.com [216.33.149.125]) by ussenterprise.ufp.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) with SMTP id OAA83957 for ; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 14:25:51 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from rumblegut8912@hotmail.com) Received: (qmail 42654 invoked by uid 0); 17 Sep 1999 18:25:20 -0000 Message-ID: <19990917182520.42653.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 216.69.206.46 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 11:25:20 PDT X-Originating-IP: [216.69.206.46] From: "Stacky Acha" To: tmbg-list@tmbg.org Subject: TMBG: Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1999 14:25:20 EDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Sender: owner-tmbg-list@tmbg.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: "Stacky Acha" There are not any contradictions here. Argument 1. New tmbg sucks Argument 2. Mp3's discriminate While I don't like their new stuff, I am still a tmbg fan. I think it's unfortunate though that fans who do want the new shite, but are not techy inclined, can't get it. Rumbly ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From owner-tmbg-list@tmbg.org Fri Sep 17 14:53:14 1999 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by ussenterprise.ufp.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id OAA85196 for tmbg-list-outgoing; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 14:53:14 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from owner-tmbg-list@tmbg.org) Received: from mailhost.nmt.edu (root@mailhost.nmt.edu [129.138.4.52]) by ussenterprise.ufp.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id OAA85187 for ; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 14:53:11 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from refund@nmt.edu) Received: from refund (f206b.rcn.nmt.edu [129.138.34.90]) by mailhost.nmt.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id MAA11500 for ; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 12:52:14 -0600 Message-ID: <001a01bf013d$e030f180$5a228a81@rcn.nmt.edu> From: "Refund" To: Subject: TMBG: On MP3's and discrimination... Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1999 12:53:04 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0017_01BF010B.952A2B20" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-tmbg-list@tmbg.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: "Refund" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0017_01BF010B.952A2B20 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable You don't have to be a techie to download mp3's. You just have to know = how to point and click. It's not rocket science, you know. Signed, Nick Wolf, TMBG Ambassador to the State of New Mexico =20 Oh yeah...and get paid to surf the 'net, while you're at it: http://www.alladvantage.com/home.asp?refid=3DAVV-359 ------=_NextPart_000_0017_01BF010B.952A2B20 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
You don't have to be a techie to download = mp3's.  You=20 just have to know how to point and click.  It's not rocket science, = you=20 know.
Signed,
     Nick Wolf, TMBG = Ambassador=20 to the State of New Mexico
    =20
     Oh yeah...and get paid to surf the 'net, = while=20 you're at it:
     http://www.= alladvantage.com/home.asp?refid=3DAVV-359
------=_NextPart_000_0017_01BF010B.952A2B20-- From owner-tmbg-list@tmbg.org Fri Sep 17 15:15:16 1999 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by ussenterprise.ufp.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id PAA86062 for tmbg-list-outgoing; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 15:15:16 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from owner-tmbg-list@tmbg.org) Received: from imo24.mx.aol.com (imo24.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.68]) by ussenterprise.ufp.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id PAA86053 for ; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 15:15:15 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from Kaylum@aol.com) From: Kaylum@aol.com Received: from Kaylum@aol.com by imo24.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v22.4.) id iQIEa10034 (7810) for ; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 15:10:23 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <8fa0c92a.2513ec1f@aol.com> Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1999 15:10:23 EDT Subject: Re: TMBG: Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1999 14:25:20 EDT To: tmbg-list@tmbg.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 16-bit for Windows sub 86 Sender: owner-tmbg-list@tmbg.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: Kaylum@aol.com In a message dated 99-09-17 14:31:36 EDT, you write: << While I don't like their new stuff, I am still a tmbg fan. I think it's unfortunate though that fans who do want the new shite, but are not techy inclined, can't get it. >> I have seen posts from people on this mailing list and newsgroup offering to burn the mp3's onto a cd for those whose computers can't play them (like mine) for the cost of downloading LTW and shipping costs. That's what I did. If you really want it, it's not that hard to get. What people who complain about MP3's don't seem to realize is that these are tracks that did not, for one reason or another, did not make it onto a regular cd...if TMBG hadn't struck up a deal with e-music, most of these tracks might never have been released at all...would you have liked that better? Kay From owner-tmbg-list@tmbg.org Fri Sep 17 15:21:11 1999 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by ussenterprise.ufp.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id PAA86294 for tmbg-list-outgoing; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 15:21:11 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from owner-tmbg-list@tmbg.org) Received: from fellspt.charm.net (elrond@fellspt.charm.net [199.0.70.29]) by ussenterprise.ufp.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id PAA86285 for ; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 15:21:09 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from elrond@fellspt.charm.net) Received: (from elrond@localhost) by fellspt.charm.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA28541; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 15:21:06 -0400 (EDT) From: Matt James Message-Id: <199909171921.PAA28541@fellspt.charm.net> Subject: TMBG: MP3 album To: rumblegut8912@hotmail.com Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1999 15:21:06 -0400 (EDT) Cc: tmbg-list@tmbg.org In-Reply-To: <19990917182520.42653.qmail@hotmail.com> from "Stacky Acha" at Sep 17, 99 02:25:52 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-tmbg-list@tmbg.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: Matt James > > There are not any contradictions here. > > Argument 1. New tmbg sucks > > Argument 2. Mp3's discriminate > > > While I don't like their new stuff, I am still a tmbg fan. I think it's > unfortunate though that fans who do want the new shite, but are not techy > inclined, can't get it. > The first two things I thought of after contemplating the MP3 album issue was a) Boy, they must be getting paid a heck of a lot by Goodnoise/E-Music to do this. This is not an entirely bad thing. After all, we all do it in our jobs, if you have the chance to make more money, especially when no real addition effort is required (whether they put the album out on CD or on MP3 they'd be putting in the same general effort, if not less) then you'd most likely do it. In fact, some of the songs are DAS songs that probably would not be put on a CD release, but fit into the smaller arena of MP3 releases nicely. b) They really like new technology and think it's cool to put a whole album out on MP3 and be spotlighted for it. If I remember correct, E-Music claimed TMBG was the first major band to put out an MP3-only album. I don't know if they were so overwhelmed by the "coolness" of it all, that they didn't think of their non-technical fans. Currently, there's so much buzz going about concerning the Internet that it can seem like everyone in the world (or at least the country) has a computer and a connection to the Web. Or at least you know somene who has these things and you can listen to their copy. Still, I'm not sure how this differs a whole lot from a Single release that you never see in the music stores (there are a lot of people who've never owned, nor even heard some of their single releases, especially b-sides, because their local stores just aren't cool enough to get them in). It's true, an album is more of an event than a single, but it kinda goes to show that not everything is going to be fair in life. I have a feeling that TMBG doesn't want to put a lot of these songs on a real CD release, but found a convenient forum for them to put them out there to some fans. Certainly, songs like Operators Standing By don't seem to fit onto a new studio release these days. While Reprehensible and Certain People I Could Name are excellent songs, they've been floating around for a number of years now and have outlasted their chance on a CD studio release. Whether that is unfair to the hard-core fan who doesn't have Internet access, that could be true. But TMBG had to draw the line somewhere and take the opportunity while they could get it. -Matt From owner-tmbg-list@tmbg.org Fri Sep 17 15:49:08 1999 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by ussenterprise.ufp.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id PAA87240 for tmbg-list-outgoing; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 15:49:08 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from owner-tmbg-list@tmbg.org) Received: from m2.jersey.juno.com (m2.jersey.juno.com [209.67.34.60]) by ussenterprise.ufp.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id PAA87231 for ; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 15:49:06 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from hotel_detective1@juno.com) Received: (from hotel_detective1@juno.com) by m2.jersey.juno.com (queuemail) id ELQ9LQVX; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 15:43:02 EDT To: tmbg-list@tmbg.org Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1999 15:20:05 -0400 Subject: Re: TMBG: String Theory Message-ID: <19990917.154413.9766.0.hotel_detective1@juno.com> References: <4e728fd1.25130c04@aol.com> X-Mailer: Juno 1.49 X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 0,2-4,11-19,21-22,24,26-28 From: "Cap'n eriKa rae" Sender: owner-tmbg-list@tmbg.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: "Cap'n eriKa rae" >I too just saw it. It was weird, and scary, and I never want to see Linnell >and Flansy as Death Metal types, ever ever ever again! ACK! ::shudders:: Are you kidding? I thought that was the funniest thing I've seen all week! I was getting kind of paranoid when the show was practically over and They still hadn't been on. I must be the only person who has actually enjoyed all of the Brave New World performances. I think a lot of you don't seem to realize that They're not doing this all as a serious thing. Ya'll need to take this with a grain of salt - it's not the future of TMBG, it's just for fun. But then, you can take my opinion with a grain of salt as well. AND THEN PUT THE SALT IN YOUR EYES! BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! ever-sincere, eriKa, wah wah wah! boy, does tmbg suck anymore! mp3s discriminate! i hate everything! "It's been cool to be cool for too long now and now it's cool not to be cool." - Ben Folds "Actually, I just like to say smock. Smock smock smock smock smock smock!" - Hobbes hotel_detective1@juno.com, couple_skate@juno.com, JannisDoe@hotmail.com ___________________________________________________________________ Get the Internet just the way you want it. Free software, free e-mail, and free Internet access for a month! Try Juno Web: http://dl.www.juno.com/dynoget/tagj. From owner-tmbg-list@tmbg.org Fri Sep 17 16:00:46 1999 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by ussenterprise.ufp.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id QAA87721 for tmbg-list-outgoing; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 16:00:46 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from owner-tmbg-list@tmbg.org) Received: from newton.math.grin.edu (newton.math.grin.edu [132.161.33.70]) by ussenterprise.ufp.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id QAA87711 for ; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 16:00:44 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from rogers@newton.math.grin.edu) Received: (from rogers@localhost) by newton.math.grin.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA16144; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 15:00:59 -0500 (CDT) Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1999 15:00:59 -0500 (CDT) From: Jamal Rogers To: Matt James cc: rumblegut8912@hotmail.com, tmbg-list@tmbg.org Subject: TMBG: Gripes (was: MP3 Album) In-Reply-To: <199909171921.PAA28541@fellspt.charm.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-tmbg-list@tmbg.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: Jamal Rogers On Fri, 17 Sep 1999, Matt James wrote: << that TMBG doesn't want to put a lot of these songs on a real CD release, but found a convenient forum for them to put them out there to some fans. Certainly, songs like Operators Standing By don't seem to fit onto a new studio release these days. While Reprehensible and Certain People I Could Name are excellent songs, they've been floating around for a number of years now and have outlasted their chance on a CD studio release. -Matt >> What bugs me is that the Johns seemed to have orphaned the songs on LTW. They are not treating them the same way they would treat songs on an "official" album. Mainly, they are not performing them. When Reprehensible and Certain People first started to be played at concerts, people loved them. Now that more people are hearing these songs and falling in love with them, you would think that they would start playing them again. But the Johns are acting like the songs don't even exist. Heck, they didn't even play them at the LTW release concert. Whic brings me to another thing. I like TMBG. I love their old stuff (pre-FS), and some of their newer songs are among my all time faves (Pet Name, Spiralling Shape, Certain People). Why am I not allowed to disagree with their decisions. Latley, people have been making posts that say, for example, "TMBG should have put (Song X) on the new album," and have been met with response that say, "You are not Them. You have no right to disagree with what they did." What's up with that? --Jamal From owner-tmbg-list@tmbg.org Fri Sep 17 16:14:16 1999 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by ussenterprise.ufp.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id QAA88370 for tmbg-list-outgoing; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 16:14:16 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from owner-tmbg-list@tmbg.org) Received: from cardinal.prod.itd.earthlink.net (cardinal.prod.itd.earthlink.net [207.217.121.154]) by ussenterprise.ufp.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id QAA88361 for ; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 16:14:14 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from SOwen@windwardschool.org) Received: from windwardschool.org (mail.windwardschool.org [207.217.35.122]) by cardinal.prod.itd.earthlink.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id NAA22731 for ; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 13:14:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from GWDomain-Message_Server by windwardschool.org with Novell_GroupWise; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 08:07:44 -0700 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 5.2 Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1999 08:07:16 -0700 From: "Spencer Owen" To: tmbg-list@tmbg.org Subject: TMBG: Re: String Theory and the rest of BNW Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by ussenterprise.ufp.org id QAA88362 Sender: owner-tmbg-list@tmbg.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: "Spencer Owen" I hate to bring the party down, but I did not like the String Theory song. Sure, they looked funny, and it was still cool to see Them on the TV, but it was pretty dumb. I was hoping for a traditional thing like maybe "Mammal"; you know, a quirky (yes, I said it), uptempo pop song that describes the whole thing in a nutshell. However, sadly, as my friend Meghan put it last night, that was one of the better ones. Yeah, BNW is over now, and I end up feeling disappointed. I enjoyed it, overall, but the overall musical output by our Johns was pretty mediocre. "Bacteria on the Moon" was my favorite original song, but the best thing on the whole series was the "Older" video, in my opinion. "Dan vs. Cog" was just OK; the vocoder was neat, but the lyrics were kind of dumb...the "King Weed" segment would have been great if the song were interesting (and if they had given Linnell a chance to actually play that great piano). You understand my viewpoint here. Anyone wanna wrestle? "and you better not be happy, and you better not be sad. you better just enjoy the luxury of sympathy, if that's a luxury you have." Spencer. From owner-tmbg-list@tmbg.org Fri Sep 17 16:17:06 1999 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by ussenterprise.ufp.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id QAA88533 for tmbg-list-outgoing; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 16:17:06 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from owner-tmbg-list@tmbg.org) Received: from anvil.gatech.edu (IDENT:root@anvil.gatech.edu [130.207.165.41]) by ussenterprise.ufp.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id QAA88524 for ; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 16:17:05 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from thehangedman@death-star.com) Received: from the-hanged-man (r69h91.res.gatech.edu [128.61.69.91]) by anvil.gatech.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with SMTP id QAA23754 for ; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 16:17:01 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <4.1.19990917161012.00972190@pop.prism.gatech.edu> X-Sender: gte958n@pop.prism.gatech.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1999 16:16:11 -0400 To: tmbg-list@tmbg.org From: the hanged man Subject: Re: TMBG: String Theory In-Reply-To: <19990917.154413.9766.0.hotel_detective1@juno.com> References: <4e728fd1.25130c04@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-tmbg-list@tmbg.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: the hanged man You're not the only one who liked them... I for one thought they were pretty cool. It was innovative, and fun, and was useful to the show, which was the point. Entertaining their personal fandom was not really any part of the whole thing. Besides, TMBG is innovative. Thats part of why They are any good. Love, the hanged man At 03:20 PM 9/17/99 -0400, you wrote: > >>I too just saw it. It was weird, and scary, and I never want to see >Linnell >>and Flansy as Death Metal types, ever ever ever again! ACK! ::shudders:: > >Are you kidding? I thought that was the funniest thing I've seen all >week! I was getting kind of paranoid when the show was practically over >and They still hadn't been on. I must be the only person who has actually >enjoyed all of the Brave New World performances. I think a lot of you >don't seem to realize that They're not doing this all as a serious thing. >Ya'll need to take this with a grain of salt - it's not the future of >TMBG, it's just for fun. > >But then, you can take my opinion with a grain of salt as well. > >AND THEN PUT THE SALT IN YOUR EYES! BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! > > >ever-sincere, >eriKa, >wah wah wah! boy, does tmbg suck anymore! mp3s discriminate! i hate >everything! > >"It's been cool to be cool for too long now and now it's cool not to be >cool." - Ben Folds >"Actually, I just like to say smock. Smock smock smock smock smock >smock!" - Hobbes > >hotel_detective1@juno.com, couple_skate@juno.com, JannisDoe@hotmail.com > >___________________________________________________________________ >Get the Internet just the way you want it. >Free software, free e-mail, and free Internet access for a month! >Try Juno Web: http://dl.www.juno.com/dynoget/tagj. From owner-tmbg-list@tmbg.org Fri Sep 17 16:21:15 1999 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by ussenterprise.ufp.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id QAA88788 for tmbg-list-outgoing; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 16:21:15 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from owner-tmbg-list@tmbg.org) Received: from hotmail.com (f90.hotmail.com [207.82.250.196]) by ussenterprise.ufp.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) with SMTP id QAA88779 for ; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 16:21:13 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from xornom@hotmail.com) Received: (qmail 10621 invoked by uid 0); 17 Sep 1999 20:20:43 -0000 Message-ID: <19990917202043.10620.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 144.80.104.94 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 13:20:42 PDT X-Originating-IP: [144.80.104.94] From: "Nathan Mulac DeHoff" To: tmbg-list@tmbg.org Subject: Re: TMBG: MP3 album Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1999 13:20:42 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Sender: owner-tmbg-list@tmbg.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: "Nathan Mulac DeHoff" Matt James wrote: >b) They really like new technology and think it's cool to put a >whole >album out on MP3 and be spotlighted for it. Do you know for sure that the Johns "really like new technology"? I know that both Johns have stated that They don't have the capability to play Long Tall Weekend. Now, They might well have been intrigued by the new technology, but that doesn't necessarily mean that They LIKE it. >While Reprehensible and >Certain People I Could Name are excellent songs, they've been >floating >around for >a number of years now and have outlasted their chance on a CD studio > >release. I don't see how that follows. By that reasoning, They shouldn't have included "Which Describes How You're Feeling" on Apollo 18, since it had already been "floating around" for at least seven years before that. -- Yours 'til my head falls off Nathan DinnerBell@tmbg.org http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Corridor/5447/ ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From owner-tmbg-list@tmbg.org Fri Sep 17 16:32:40 1999 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by ussenterprise.ufp.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id QAA89282 for tmbg-list-outgoing; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 16:32:40 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from owner-tmbg-list@tmbg.org) Received: from hotmail.com (f249.hotmail.com [207.82.251.140]) by ussenterprise.ufp.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) with SMTP id QAA89273 for ; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 16:32:39 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from xornom@hotmail.com) Received: (qmail 10675 invoked by uid 0); 17 Sep 1999 20:32:08 -0000 Message-ID: <19990917203208.10674.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 144.80.104.94 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 13:32:07 PDT X-Originating-IP: [144.80.104.94] From: "Nathan Mulac DeHoff" To: tmbg-list@tmbg.org Subject: Re: TMBG: Gripes (was: MP3 Album) Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1999 13:32:07 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Sender: owner-tmbg-list@tmbg.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: "Nathan Mulac DeHoff" Jamal Rogers wrote: >What bugs me is that the Johns seemed to have orphaned the songs on LTW. >They are not treating them the same way they would treat songs on an >"official" album. Mainly, they are not performing them. When >Reprehensible and Certain People first started to be played at concerts, >people loved them. Now that more people are hearing these songs and >falling in love with them, you would think that they would start playing >them again. But the Johns are acting like the songs don't even exist. >Heck, they didn't even play them at the LTW release concert. They did revive "Maybe I Know" for concerts, didn't They? Overall, though, I think you have a good point. >Whic brings me to another thing. I like TMBG. I love their old stuff >(pre-FS), and some of their newer songs are among my all time faves (Pet >Name, Spiralling Shape, Certain People). Why am I not allowed to disagree >with their decisions. Latley, people have been making posts that say, for >example, "TMBG should have put (Song X) on the new album," and have been >met with response that say, "You are not Them. You have no right to >disagree with what they did." What's up with that? I don't really understand it either. Some people seem to think that criticism is tantamount to insulting the Johns. I support your right to criticize TMBG's decisions as much as you want, but I think it's also important to remember that such criticism is unlikely to have any impact on anything. It's basically just venting (not that there's anything wrong with that). -- Yours 'til my head falls off Nathan DinnerBell@tmbg.org http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Corridor/5447/ ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From owner-tmbg-list@tmbg.org Fri Sep 17 17:33:30 1999 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by ussenterprise.ufp.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id RAA91664 for tmbg-list-outgoing; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 17:33:30 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from owner-tmbg-list@tmbg.org) Received: from megahits.com (megahits.com [207.76.78.5]) by ussenterprise.ufp.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id RAA91655 for ; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 17:33:29 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from lees@megahits.com) Received: from LEE1 [207.76.79.55] by megahits.com (SMTPD32-5.04) id A3962E5400C4; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 17:33:10 EDT From: "Lee Steel" To: Subject: RE: TMBG: Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1999 14:25:20 EDT Date: Sat, 18 Sep 1999 05:34:20 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: <8fa0c92a.2513ec1f@aol.com> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Sender: owner-tmbg-list@tmbg.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: "Lee Steel" Historically, the thing that has set TMBG appart from the rest of the pointless acts out there is their willingness to embrace new technologies and go where no band has gone before. There. I've added my two cents worth. -Lee From owner-tmbg-list@tmbg.org Fri Sep 17 18:15:01 1999 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by ussenterprise.ufp.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id SAA93106 for tmbg-list-outgoing; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 18:15:01 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from owner-tmbg-list@tmbg.org) Received: (from news@localhost) by ussenterprise.ufp.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id SAA92980 for tmbg-list@tmbg.org; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 18:11:21 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from owner-tmbg-list@tmbg.org) Received: from GATEWAY by ussenterprise.ufp.org with netnews for tmbg-list@tmbg.org (tmbg-list@tmbg.org) To: tmbg-list@tmbg.org Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1999 18:20:24 -0400 From: Adrienne Spruill Message-ID: <37E2BEA8.5E4064D8@epix.net> Organization: Student Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <19990917162120.1551.qmail@hotmail.com> Subject: TMBG: Re: TMBG is going down....hill Sender: owner-tmbg-list@tmbg.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: Adrienne Spruill Are you calling me a cult member? Uh, not to be rude, although that seems to be the theme of your e-mail, it's fine if you don't like what the band has done lately. I can even see myself letting you get away with insulting them, although that doesn't exactly tickle me pink, however, I don't particularly appreciate you insulting their fans, which obviously includes me. If you're going to be rude, do it with taste. There's no reason to run off at the mouth insulting everyone. -A They > have enough of a cult following that they will make money with any recording > company. From owner-tmbg-list@tmbg.org Fri Sep 17 18:15:03 1999 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by ussenterprise.ufp.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id SAA93132 for tmbg-list-outgoing; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 18:15:03 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from owner-tmbg-list@tmbg.org) Received: (from news@localhost) by ussenterprise.ufp.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id SAA93053 for tmbg-list@tmbg.org; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 18:13:27 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from owner-tmbg-list@tmbg.org) Received: from GATEWAY by ussenterprise.ufp.org with netnews for tmbg-list@tmbg.org (tmbg-list@tmbg.org) To: tmbg-list@tmbg.org Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1999 18:22:31 -0400 From: Adrienne Spruill Message-ID: <37E2BF27.A1B3091@epix.net> Organization: Student Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <19990917182520.42653.qmail@hotmail.com> Subject: TMBG: Re: (none) Sender: owner-tmbg-list@tmbg.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: Adrienne Spruill P.S. 1) This a changing world, get with the times and learn how to use a computer to download Mps's 2) If you're not a "techie" then stop using e-mail because that seems to be a pretty "techie" thing. -A Stacky Acha wrote: > > There are not any contradictions here. > > Argument 1. New tmbg sucks > > Argument 2. Mp3's discriminate > > While I don't like their new stuff, I am still a tmbg fan. I think it's > unfortunate though that fans who do want the new shite, but are not techy > inclined, can't get it. > > Rumbly > > ______________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From owner-tmbg-list@tmbg.org Fri Sep 17 18:54:21 1999 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by ussenterprise.ufp.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id SAA94746 for tmbg-list-outgoing; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 18:54:21 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from owner-tmbg-list@tmbg.org) Received: from m2.jersey.juno.com (m2.jersey.juno.com [209.67.34.60]) by ussenterprise.ufp.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id SAA94732 for ; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 18:54:19 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from hotel_detective1@juno.com) Received: (from hotel_detective1@juno.com) by m2.jersey.juno.com (queuemail) id ELRLAGRJ; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 18:49:40 EDT To: tmbg-list@tmbg.org Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1999 18:43:53 -0400 Subject: TMBG: Re: TMBG is going down....hill Message-ID: <19990917.185049.11302.0.hotel_detective1@juno.com> References: <19990917162120.1551.qmail@hotmail.com> <37E2BEA8.5E4064D8@epix.net> X-Mailer: Juno 1.49 X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 0,3-6,9-17,19,21-23 From: "Cap'n eriKa rae" Sender: owner-tmbg-list@tmbg.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: "Cap'n eriKa rae" The phrase "cult following" is commonly used interchangeably with "mass of devoted fans." It's not to be taken literally. Remember that grain of salt I mentioned earlier. ^_^ >There's no reason to run off at the mouth insulting everyone. Not like that's the first time that's happened here! Were that an actual insult, that would have been some of the most tasteful ever to grace this list! ever-sincere, eriKa, bigger than Ted Kennedy's liver "It's been cool to be cool for too long now and now it's cool not to be cool." - Ben Folds "Actually, I just like to say smock. Smock smock smock smock smock smock!" - Hobbes hotel_detective1@juno.com, couple_skate@juno.com, JannisDoe@hotmail.com ___________________________________________________________________ Get the Internet just the way you want it. Free software, free e-mail, and free Internet access for a month! Try Juno Web: http://dl.www.juno.com/dynoget/tagj. From owner-tmbg-list@tmbg.org Fri Sep 17 19:06:17 1999 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by ussenterprise.ufp.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id TAA95120 for tmbg-list-outgoing; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 19:06:17 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from owner-tmbg-list@tmbg.org) Received: from imo-d02.mx.aol.com (imo-d02.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.34]) by ussenterprise.ufp.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id TAA95111 for ; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 19:06:16 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from HeYAnArChY@aol.com) From: HeYAnArChY@aol.com Received: from HeYAnArChY@aol.com by imo-d02.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v22.4.) id iJMZ0nB7C7 (4571) for ; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 19:05:27 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <2f3bb84.25142336@aol.com> Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1999 19:05:26 EDT Subject: Re: TMBG: Re: TMBG is going down....hill To: tmbg-list@tmbg.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 9 Sender: owner-tmbg-list@tmbg.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: HeYAnArChY@aol.com In a message dated 9/17/99 6:55:09 PM Eastern Daylight Time, hotel_detective1@juno.com writes: > The phrase "cult following" is commonly used interchangeably with "mass > of devoted fans." It's not to be taken literally. Remember that grain of > salt I mentioned earlier. ^_^ MY EYES! I'M BLIND! I GOT SALT IN MY EEEYYYYEEESSS!! AAAAHHHHHH!!! I happen to be a PROUD tmbg cult member!! Lydia A member of the happy TMBCultists following since 1837! From owner-tmbg-list@tmbg.org Fri Sep 17 19:30:32 1999 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by ussenterprise.ufp.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id TAA95889 for tmbg-list-outgoing; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 19:30:32 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from owner-tmbg-list@tmbg.org) Received: from m2.jersey.juno.com (m2.jersey.juno.com [209.67.34.60]) by ussenterprise.ufp.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id TAA95876 for ; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 19:30:30 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from hotel_detective1@juno.com) Received: (from hotel_detective1@juno.com) by m2.jersey.juno.com (queuemail) id ELRNETCP; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 19:26:59 EDT To: tmbg-list@tmbg.org Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1999 19:22:27 -0400 Subject: TMBG: Re: TMBG is going down....hill Message-ID: <19990917.192818.11302.2.hotel_detective1@juno.com> References: <2f3bb84.25142336@aol.com> X-Mailer: Juno 1.49 X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 0-15,17,19-21 From: "Cap'n eriKa rae" Sender: owner-tmbg-list@tmbg.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: "Cap'n eriKa rae" >>Remember that grain of >>salt I mentioned earlier. ^_^ >MY EYES! I'M BLIND! I GOT SALT IN MY EEEYYYYEEESSS!! AAAAHHHHHH!!! BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! (i love kids in the hall!) ever-sincere, eriKa, blinding Lydia since 1837! -- kill Danny! "It's been cool to be cool for too long now and now it's cool not to be cool." - Ben Folds "Actually, I just like to say smock. Smock smock smock smock smock smock!" - Hobbes hotel_detective1@juno.com, couple_skate@juno.com, JannisDoe@hotmail.com ___________________________________________________________________ Get the Internet just the way you want it. Free software, free e-mail, and free Internet access for a month! Try Juno Web: http://dl.www.juno.com/dynoget/tagj. From owner-tmbg-list@tmbg.org Fri Sep 17 19:39:08 1999 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by ussenterprise.ufp.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id TAA96209 for tmbg-list-outgoing; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 19:39:08 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from owner-tmbg-list@tmbg.org) Received: from fellspt.charm.net (root@fellspt.charm.net [199.0.70.29]) by ussenterprise.ufp.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id TAA96200 for ; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 19:39:07 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from elrond@fellspt.charm.net) Received: from elrond.charm.net (coretel-116-029.charm.net [209.143.116.29]) by fellspt.charm.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id TAA28930; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 19:39:04 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199909172339.TAA28930@fellspt.charm.net> Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "Matt James" To: tmbg-list@tmbg.org, "Nathan Mulac DeHoff" Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1999 19:37:41 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: TMBG: MP3 album In-reply-to: <19990917202043.10620.qmail@hotmail.com> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v2.54) Sender: owner-tmbg-list@tmbg.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: "Matt James" > Matt James wrote: > >b) They really like new technology and think it's cool to put a >whole > >album out on MP3 and be spotlighted for it. > > Do you know for sure that the Johns "really like new technology"? I know > that both Johns have stated that They don't have the capability to play Long > Tall Weekend. Now, They might well have been intrigued by the new > technology, but that doesn't necessarily mean that They LIKE it. > Well, I suppose you're right, they're more intrigued by it but perhaps don't have the time for it. When someone else, i.e. their liaison, E-music, is willing to put them into MP3s for them then that's cool to them, but actually doing it themselves is another thing. I think they like the idea of getting involved with something new and technical, but HOW involved that is may fall short. > >While Reprehensible and > >Certain People I Could Name are excellent songs, they've been >floating > >around for > >a number of years now and have outlasted their chance on a CD studio > > >release. > > I don't see how that follows. By that reasoning, They shouldn't have > included "Which Describes How You're Feeling" on Apollo 18, since it had > already been "floating around" for at least seven years before that. > -- I thought about that after I sent the message (in fact I was just thinking of that song) and perhaps it's true that they could have waited and put it on a studio release, but now they've made the decision to put it on the MP3 only album. It seems less likely that they'd release it on a CD album now. I'm not saying that it's impossible for them to put it on another new CD, they did put Token Back to Brooklyn on FS and LTW, but it'd almost be disappointing to us at least to put the same material on a new studio CD. When I hear about a new album I want all new, unreleased material. That's why I'm a little blase with TBTB on LTW. -Matt Matt James mattj@charm.net From owner-tmbg-list@tmbg.org Fri Sep 17 19:43:58 1999 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by ussenterprise.ufp.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id TAA96429 for tmbg-list-outgoing; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 19:43:58 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from owner-tmbg-list@tmbg.org) Received: from hotmail.com (f23.hotmail.com [207.82.250.233]) by ussenterprise.ufp.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) with SMTP id TAA96420 for ; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 19:43:56 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from xornom@hotmail.com) Received: (qmail 52032 invoked by uid 0); 17 Sep 1999 23:43:25 -0000 Message-ID: <19990917234325.52031.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 144.80.104.94 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 16:43:25 PDT X-Originating-IP: [144.80.104.94] From: "Nathan Mulac DeHoff" To: tmbg-list@tmbg.org Subject: Re: TMBG: Re: (none) Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1999 16:43:25 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Sender: owner-tmbg-list@tmbg.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: "Nathan Mulac DeHoff" Adrienne Spruill wrote: >P.S. 1) This a changing world, get with the times and learn how to >use a >computer to download Mps's So everyone should learn to use every stupid technological advance that is created? Not that MP3's are necessarily stupid, but there are plenty of technological advances that are, and I don't think people should be forced to use them. > 2) If you're not a "techie" then stop using e-mail because that >seems to be a pretty "techie" thing. As these things presently arranged, sending e-mail is simpler than downloading MP3's, and you don't need as fancy a computer to do it. I guess it is kind of "techie," but there are numerous technological advances, and people generally embrace some of them, and not others. -- Yours 'til my head falls off Nathan DinnerBell@tmbg.org http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Corridor/5447/ ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From owner-tmbg-list@tmbg.org Fri Sep 17 22:50:01 1999 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by ussenterprise.ufp.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id WAA01920 for tmbg-list-outgoing; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 22:50:01 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from owner-tmbg-list@tmbg.org) Received: (from news@localhost) by ussenterprise.ufp.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id WAA01793 for tmbg-list@tmbg.org; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 22:47:09 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from owner-tmbg-list@tmbg.org) Received: from GATEWAY by ussenterprise.ufp.org with netnews for tmbg-list@tmbg.org (tmbg-list@tmbg.org) To: tmbg-list@tmbg.org Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1999 22:56:13 -0400 From: Adrienne Spruill Message-ID: <37E2FF4D.89AC5524@epix.net> Organization: Student Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <19990917234325.52031.qmail@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: TMBG: Re: (none) Sender: owner-tmbg-list@tmbg.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: Adrienne Spruill Fine, don't use the technological advances. What do I care if you do or not? But if you choose not to, please don't go around bitching about how you can't have something (mp3's etc.) It's like people who don't vote. If you don't vote then you have no right to bitch about things going on in the gov't. (and just so you non voters don't fill my mailbox with e-mails, I also choose not to vote.) -A Nathan Mulac DeHoff wrote: > > Adrienne Spruill wrote: > >P.S. 1) This a changing world, get with the times and learn how to >use a > >computer to download Mps's > > So everyone should learn to use every stupid technological advance that is > created? Not that MP3's are necessarily stupid, but there are plenty of > technological advances that are, and I don't think people should be forced > to use them. > > > 2) If you're not a "techie" then stop using e-mail because that > >seems to be a pretty "techie" thing. > > As these things presently arranged, sending e-mail is simpler than > downloading MP3's, and you don't need as fancy a computer to do it. I guess > it is kind of "techie," but there are numerous technological advances, and > people generally embrace some of them, and not others. > -- > Yours 'til my head falls off > Nathan > DinnerBell@tmbg.org > http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Corridor/5447/ > > ______________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From owner-tmbg-list@tmbg.org Fri Sep 17 23:06:52 1999 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by ussenterprise.ufp.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id XAA02342 for tmbg-list-outgoing; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 23:06:52 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from owner-tmbg-list@tmbg.org) Received: from hotmail.com (f61.hotmail.com [207.82.251.195]) by ussenterprise.ufp.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) with SMTP id XAA02332 for ; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 23:06:51 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from xornom@hotmail.com) Received: (qmail 36199 invoked by uid 0); 18 Sep 1999 03:06:20 -0000 Message-ID: <19990918030620.36198.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 144.80.104.94 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 20:06:19 PDT X-Originating-IP: [144.80.104.94] From: "Nathan Mulac DeHoff" To: tmbg-list@tmbg.org Subject: Re: TMBG: Re: (none) Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1999 20:06:19 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Sender: owner-tmbg-list@tmbg.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: "Nathan Mulac DeHoff" Adrienne Spruill wrote: >Fine, don't use the technological advances. What do I care if you do or >not? But if you choose not to, please don't go around bitching about >how >you can't have something (mp3's etc.) It's not entirely a matter of choice. A CD player is cheaper and easier to use than a computer. People who can't afford a top-of-the-line computer, or who are too technically inept to operate one, do not have access to these songs. Now, I think it's a good point that, if this MP3 album hadn't been released, these same people might not have have been able to hear the songs anyway, because they might not have been released at all. That's quite possible, and I think that the advantages of Long Tall Weekend in and of itself probably outweigh the disadvantages. In general, though, I don't really think that MP3-only music is a very good idea. >It's like people who don't vote. >If you don't vote then you have no right to bitch about things going >on in >the gov't. It's not like you can control what goes on in the government by voting. That's all I'll say on this point, though, because this list is NOT the place for a politcial debate. What is the place for a political debate? Any list that I, personally, am not on would be fine with me. -- Yours 'til my head falls off Nathan DinnerBell@tmbg.org http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Corridor/5447/ ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From owner-tmbg-list@tmbg.org Sat Sep 18 00:24:29 1999 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by ussenterprise.ufp.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id AAA04804 for tmbg-list-outgoing; Sat, 18 Sep 1999 00:24:29 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from owner-tmbg-list@tmbg.org) Received: from imo28.mx.aol.com (imo28.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.72]) by ussenterprise.ufp.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id AAA04795 for ; Sat, 18 Sep 1999 00:24:28 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from SOLFLARE1@aol.com) From: SOLFLARE1@aol.com Received: from SOLFLARE1@aol.com by imo28.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v22.4.) id iQSQa01938 (15551) for ; Sat, 18 Sep 1999 00:23:52 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <128ac571.25146dd8@aol.com> Date: Sat, 18 Sep 1999 00:23:52 EDT Subject: TMBG: Pittsburgh Show To: tmbg-list@tmbg.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL NetMail version 2.0 Sender: owner-tmbg-list@tmbg.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: SOLFLARE1@aol.com A couple days ago, I read that the Pittsburgh show on Oct.14 was CANCELLED?! Is that on reliable info? If so, it will be much to my dismay. I just started going to school out here in Pittsburgh and this would've been the absolute best way to start off my concert-going years here. -Michael "'Son, I am able,' she said, 'thought you scare me.' 'Watch,' said I, 'beloved,' I said, 'watch me scare you.' though said she, 'able am I, son'" -THEY ------------------------------ End of tmbg-list Digest #21-18 ******************************