Errors-To: owner-tmbg-digest@tmbg.org Reply-To: tmbg-digest@tmbg.org Sender: owner-tmbg-digest@tmbg.org Precedence: bulk From: owner-tmbg-digest@tmbg.org To: tmbg-digest@tmbg.org Subject: tmbg-list Digest #36-21 tmbg-list Digest, Volume 36, Number 21 Sunday, 24 December 2000 Today's Topics: Re: TMBG: Slashdot TMBG interview Re: TMBG: Slashdot TMBG interview Re: TMBG: Slashdot TMBG interview TMBG: Is Unlimited Overpriced and Understocked, or Underappreciated and Unde TMBG: tmbg unlimited Re: TMBG: Is Unlimited Overpriced and Understocked, or Underappreciated and Re: TMBG: Re: The Bobs Re: TMBG: Is Unlimited Overpriced and Understocked, or Underappreciated and Re: TMBG: Re: The Bobs Administrivia: If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing send mail to tmbg-digest-request@tmbg.org for instructions on how to be automatically removed. --------------------------------------------------------------------- The views expressed herein are those of the individual authors. --------------------------------------------------------------------- tmbg-list is digested with Digest 3.5b (John Relph ). ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "General Purplefeet" Subject: Re: TMBG: Slashdot TMBG interview Date: Sat, 23 Dec 2000 18:54:33 -0000 Message-ID: Miss Karen: >I'm perfectly willing to pay money for new TMBG albums and music, but I'm >concerned that asking fans to pay $10 a month to have access to new TMBG >tunes may cause you to lose more fans than you gain. > >John: > >Our audience means a lot to us, and we respect their interest and email >addresses. Virtually all the EMusic emails include some free component, >although it is not all free. We personally give away more than any other >band I've heard of, and live wonderful, earthbound existences. I don't know >what else to say but sorry we bugged you. It seems as if John avoided the most important part of the question (to me, anyway; it wasn't necessarily all that important to the person who asked it), since he didn't address how TMBG Unlimited might alienate fans. TMBG might very well give away more than any other band, and I'm glad of it, but that doesn't necessarily justify OVER-charging for something like TMBG Unlimited. -- Eat your broccoli, Nathan DinnerBell@tmbg.org http://www.geocities.com/fablesto/ _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ From: Kaylum@aol.com Message-ID: <98.e5e2094.27765362@aol.com> Date: Sat, 23 Dec 2000 14:13:38 EST Subject: Re: TMBG: Slashdot TMBG interview In a message dated 12/23/2000 1:57:43 PM Eastern Standard Time, xornom@hotmail.com writes: > It seems as if John avoided the most important part of the question (to me, > anyway; it wasn't necessarily all that important to the person who asked > it), since he didn't address how TMBG Unlimited might alienate fans. TMBG > might very well give away more than any other band, and I'm glad of it, but > that doesn't necessarily justify OVER-charging for something like TMBG > Unlimited. > > I wouldn't really considering it overcharging since most new ep's with 4 songs (or therabouts) on them go for about $7, and with TMBG Unlimited, we're getting 6 songs plus some extras (not even counting the fleece and the free signed cd for early subscribers). I'm curious as to whether they're going to continue doing this for longer than a year, and, if so, if they'll be offering any more goodies. Kay [Attachment omitted, unknown MIME type or encoding (text/html)] Kay: >I wouldn't really considering it overcharging since most new ep's with 4 >songs (or therabouts) on them go for about $7, and with TMBG Unlimited, >we're >getting 6 songs plus some extras (not even counting the fleece and the free >signed cd for early subscribers). True, but at least you get a CD when you buy the 4-song EP. This way, you get nothing but sound files. Besides, the 15-song Long Tall Weekend cost less. Was that a way to get us hooked before they raised the price? -- Eat your broccoli, Nathan DinnerBell@tmbg.org http://www.geocities.com/fablesto/ _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From owner-tmbg-list@tmbg.org Sat Dec 23 15:56:52 2000 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by ussenterprise.ufp.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id PAA83464 for tmbg-list-outgoing; Sat, 23 Dec 2000 15:56:52 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from owner-tmbg-list@tmbg.org) Received: from hotmail.com (f200.law8.hotmail.com [216.33.241.200]) by ussenterprise.ufp.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id PAA83455 for ; Sat, 23 Dec 2000 15:56:51 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from aceduke@hotmail.com) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sat, 23 Dec 2000 12:56:20 -0800 Received: from 24.4.116.242 by lw8fd.law8.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sat, 23 Dec 2000 20:56:20 GMT X-Originating-IP: [24.4.116.242] From: "John Ferrer" To: tmbg-list@tmbg.org Subject: TMBG: Is Unlimited Overpriced and Understocked, or Underappreciated and Under Scrutiny Date: Sat, 23 Dec 2000 20:56:20 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 23 Dec 2000 20:56:20.0639 (UTC) FILETIME=[CD42B2F0:01C06D22] Sender: owner-tmbg-list@tmbg.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: "John Ferrer" At first I didn't think Unlimited was a bad deal at all. For the first month, it would be like paying ten dollars for a CD featuring six exclusive songs and over an hour of live material, plus a videotape featuring the completely awesome "Hoovering Sombrero" video. That's not bad at all, plus you throw in the everpopular fleece and signed CD, and access to about a million non-TMBG songs, that you can freely peruse to find new things you might like. But THIS month seems to be a different story. Nobody's mentioned this, so maybe I misunderstood, but the newsletter said the January edition is "already up." But only one song has been added. Did they go all out for the first month only to begin adding things at their own leisure? I mean, I'm sure the Johns know what they're doing, but maybe they could tell us about it so that everyone could stop grinding their teeth about their precious money. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From owner-tmbg-list@tmbg.org Sat Dec 23 19:01:18 2000 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by ussenterprise.ufp.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id TAA86749 for tmbg-list-outgoing; Sat, 23 Dec 2000 19:01:18 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from owner-tmbg-list@tmbg.org) Received: from imo-r12.mail.aol.com (imo-r12.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.66]) by ussenterprise.ufp.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id TAA86740 for ; Sat, 23 Dec 2000 19:01:17 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from Vazco@aol.com) From: Vazco@aol.com Received: from Vazco@aol.com by imo-r12.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v28.35.) id i.a1.ef89d04 (4330) for ; Sat, 23 Dec 2000 19:00:38 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: Date: Sat, 23 Dec 2000 19:00:37 EST Subject: TMBG: tmbg unlimited To: tmbg-list@tmbg.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_a1.ef89d04.277696a5_boundary" Content-Disposition: Inline X-Mailer: 6.0 sub 171 Sender: owner-tmbg-list@tmbg.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: Vazco@aol.com --part1_a1.ef89d04.277696a5_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable In a message dated 12/23/00 2:57:58 PM Eastern Standard Time,=20 xornom@hotmail.com writes: > True, but at least you get a CD when you buy the 4-song EP. =A0This way, y= ou=20 > get nothing but sound files. =A0Besides, the 15-song Long Tall Weekend cos= t=20 > less. =A0Was that a way to get us hooked before they raised the price? > -- >=20 Fact is that the 9.95 a month is an Emusic subscription service. They should= =20 offer a TMBG UNL for like $4 =A0if you dont want anything but TMBG...for the= =20 9.95 you get the entire emus catalog, but thats nt of interest for a lot of=20 people... Frankly, if they offered both i would just sub to TMBG. Mario --part1_a1.ef89d04.277696a5_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
In a message dated 12/23/00 2:57:58 PM Eastern Standard Time,
xornom= @hotmail.com writes:



True, but at least you get=20= a CD when you buy the 4-song EP. =A0This way, you=20
get nothing but sound files. =A0Besides, the 15-song Long Tall Weekend c= ost=20
less. =A0Was that a way to get us hooked before they raised the price?
--




Fact is that the 9.95 a month is an Emusic subscription service. They sh= ould
offer a TMBG UNL for like $4 =A0if you dont want anything but TMBG.= ..for the
9.95 you get the entire emus catalog, but thats nt of interest= for a lot of
people...
Frankly, if they offered both i would just sub to TMBG.

Mario --part1_a1.ef89d04.277696a5_boundary-- From owner-tmbg-list@tmbg.org Sat Dec 23 20:14:08 2000 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by ussenterprise.ufp.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id UAA88048 for tmbg-list-outgoing; Sat, 23 Dec 2000 20:14:08 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from owner-tmbg-list@tmbg.org) Received: from imo-d07.mx.aol.com (imo-d07.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.39]) by ussenterprise.ufp.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id UAA88039 for ; Sat, 23 Dec 2000 20:14:07 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from Kaylum@aol.com) From: Kaylum@aol.com Received: from Kaylum@aol.com by imo-d07.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v28.35.) id i.ce.e63eddc (3953) for ; Sat, 23 Dec 2000 20:13:34 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: Date: Sat, 23 Dec 2000 20:13:34 EST Subject: Re: TMBG: Is Unlimited Overpriced and Understocked, or Underappreciated and U... To: tmbg-list@tmbg.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_ce.e63eddc.2776a7be_boundary" Content-Disposition: Inline X-Mailer: 6.0 sub 171 Sender: owner-tmbg-list@tmbg.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: Kaylum@aol.com --part1_ce.e63eddc.2776a7be_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 12/23/2000 3:58:25 PM Eastern Standard Time, aceduke@hotmail.com writes: > At first I didn't think Unlimited was a bad deal at all. For the first > month, it would be like paying ten dollars for a CD featuring six exclusive > songs and over an hour of live material, plus a videotape featuring the > completely awesome "Hoovering Sombrero" video. That's not bad at all, plus > you throw in the everpopular fleece and signed CD, and access to about a > million non-TMBG songs, that you can freely peruse to find new things you > might like. But THIS month seems to be a different story. Nobody's > mentioned > this, so maybe I misunderstood, but the newsletter said the January edition > is "already up." But only one song has been added. Did they go all out for > the first month only to begin adding things at their own leisure? I mean, > I'm sure the Johns know what they're doing, but maybe they could tell us > about it so that everyone could stop grinding their teeth about their > The current issue *is* the January issue; it was just posted early (to get things rolling, I'd assume). "Santa Clause" is an extra tidbit thrown in for the holidays. Kay --part1_ce.e63eddc.2776a7be_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 12/23/2000 3:58:25 PM Eastern Standard Time,
aceduke@hotmail.com writes:


At first I didn't think Unlimited was a bad deal at all. For the first
month, it would be like paying ten dollars for a CD featuring six exclusive
songs and over an hour of live material, plus a videotape featuring the
completely awesome "Hoovering Sombrero" video. That's not bad at all, plus
you throw in the everpopular fleece and signed CD, and access to about a
million non-TMBG songs, that you can freely peruse to find new things you
might like. But THIS month seems to be a different story. Nobody's
mentioned
this, so maybe I misunderstood, but the newsletter said the January edition
is "already up." But only one song has been added. Did they go all out for
the first month only to begin adding things at their own leisure? I mean,
I'm sure the Johns know what they're doing, but maybe they could tell us
about it so that everyone could stop grinding their teeth about their
precious money.



The current issue *is* the January issue; it was just posted early (to get
things rolling, I'd assume).  "Santa Clause" is an extra tidbit thrown in for
the holidays.

Kay
--part1_ce.e63eddc.2776a7be_boundary-- From owner-tmbg-list@tmbg.org Sat Dec 23 22:26:07 2000 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by ussenterprise.ufp.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id WAA90473 for tmbg-list-outgoing; Sat, 23 Dec 2000 22:26:07 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from owner-tmbg-list@tmbg.org) Received: from hotmail.com (f175.law7.hotmail.com [216.33.237.175]) by ussenterprise.ufp.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id WAA90464 for ; Sat, 23 Dec 2000 22:26:06 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from xornom@hotmail.com) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sat, 23 Dec 2000 10:50:05 -0800 Received: from 64.192.26.1 by lw7fd.law7.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sat, 23 Dec 2000 18:50:05 GMT X-Originating-IP: [64.192.26.1] From: "General Purplefeet" To: tmbg-list@tmbg.org Subject: Re: TMBG: Re: The Bobs Date: Sat, 23 Dec 2000 18:50:05 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 23 Dec 2000 18:50:05.0693 (UTC) FILETIME=[2A3DAAD0:01C06D11] Sender: owner-tmbg-list@tmbg.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: "General Purplefeet" PZickler: >Speaking of Seattle, I saw the eminent acappella gods The Bobs at >Jazz Alley tonight. These guys (and one girl) are amazing -- all >acappella and all rockin. I saw the Bobs at Indiana University of Pennsylvania back in 1996, and it was a good show, although rather short (it was a double bill with some comedian). Back then, the girl in the band was Janey-Bob, but I heard she was quitting. If that's true, who's the new female member? -- Eat your broccoli, Nathan DinnerBell@tmbg.org http://www.geocities.com/fablesto/ _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From owner-tmbg-list@tmbg.org Sat Dec 23 23:16:09 2000 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by ussenterprise.ufp.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id XAA91358 for tmbg-list-outgoing; Sat, 23 Dec 2000 23:16:09 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from owner-tmbg-list@tmbg.org) Received: from hotmail.com (f146.law8.hotmail.com [216.33.241.146]) by ussenterprise.ufp.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id XAA91349 for ; Sat, 23 Dec 2000 23:16:08 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from aceduke@hotmail.com) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sat, 23 Dec 2000 20:15:37 -0800 Received: from 24.4.116.242 by lw8fd.law8.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sun, 24 Dec 2000 04:15:37 GMT X-Originating-IP: [24.4.116.242] From: "John Ferrer" To: tmbg-list@tmbg.org Subject: Re: TMBG: Is Unlimited Overpriced and Understocked, or Underappreciated and U... Date: Sun, 24 Dec 2000 04:15:37 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 24 Dec 2000 04:15:37.0577 (UTC) FILETIME=[2B384590:01C06D60] Sender: owner-tmbg-list@tmbg.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: "John Ferrer" Nobody's > > mentioned > > this, so maybe I misunderstood, but the newsletter said the January >edition > > is "already up." But only one song has been added. Did they go all out >for > > the first month only to begin adding things at their own leisure? > >The current issue *is* the January issue; it was just posted early (to get >things rolling, I'd assume). "Santa Clause" is an extra tidbit thrown in >for >the holidays. > >Kay > Oh. *cough* Well then. Never mind. But it was posted last month...does that mean there won't be a new issue until February? _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From owner-tmbg-list@tmbg.org Sat Dec 23 23:20:34 2000 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by ussenterprise.ufp.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id XAA91536 for tmbg-list-outgoing; Sat, 23 Dec 2000 23:20:34 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from owner-tmbg-list@tmbg.org) Received: from imo-r16.mail.aol.com (imo-r16.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.70]) by ussenterprise.ufp.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id XAA91527 for ; Sat, 23 Dec 2000 23:20:33 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from MikeTheGiant@aol.com) From: MikeTheGiant@aol.com Received: from MikeTheGiant@aol.com by imo-r16.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v28.35.) id i.9a.de9c543 (4452); Sat, 23 Dec 2000 23:19:54 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <9a.de9c543.2776d36a@aol.com> Date: Sat, 23 Dec 2000 23:19:54 EST Subject: Re: TMBG: Re: The Bobs To: xornom@hotmail.com, tmbg-list@tmbg.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 127 Sender: owner-tmbg-list@tmbg.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: MikeTheGiant@aol.com In a message dated 12/23/00 10:29:18 PM Eastern Standard Time, xornom@hotmail.com writes: << I saw the Bobs at Indiana University of Pennsylvania back in 1996, and it was a good show, although rather short (it was a double bill with some comedian). Back then, the girl in the band was Janey-Bob, but I heard she was quitting. If that's true, who's the new female member? >> Janie Bob did quit. Since Janie, they have gone through two girls. I can't remember the first girls name, but the second one (and current) is Amy Bob. Anyone in the Maryland (Harford/Baltimore County) area, can see them once a year in Jan., Feb., or March at Harford Community College. That's where I see them when I do. You should check them out. They do about an hour and a half set, that's well worth the $10-$15 the tickets cost. If you'd like more info. e-mail me. Mike Stabile "The very existence of flame-throwers proves that some time, somewhere, someone said to themselves, 'You know, I want to set those people over there on fire, but I'm just not close enough to get the job done.' " - George Carlin ------------------------------ End of tmbg-list Digest #36-21 ******************************