Errors-To: owner-tmbg-digest@tmbg.org Reply-To: tmbg-digest@tmbg.org Sender: owner-tmbg-digest@tmbg.org Precedence: bulk From: owner-tmbg-digest@tmbg.org To: tmbg-digest@tmbg.org Subject: tmbg-list Digest #54-5 tmbg-list Digest, Volume 54, Number 5 Wednesday, 5 June 2002 Today's Topics: TMBG: I got my first one. RE: TMBG: I got my first one. TMBG: Limiting posting to reduce spam, your opinion? Re: TMBG: Limiting posting to reduce spam, your opinion? Re: TMBG: Limiting posting to reduce spam, your opinion? RE: TMBG: Limiting posting to reduce spam, your opinion? TMBG: Re: Limiting posting to reduce spam, your opinion? RE: TMBG: Limiting posting to reduce spam, your opinion? Re: TMBG: Limiting posting to reduce spam, your opinion? Re: TMBG: Limiting posting to reduce spam, your opinion? Re: TMBG: Limiting posting to reduce spam, your opinion? RE: TMBG: Limiting posting to reduce spam, your opinion? Re: TMBG: I got my first one. Re: TMBG: Limiting posting to reduce spam, your opinion? Re: TMBG: Limiting posting to reduce spam, your opinion? Administrivia: If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing send mail to tmbg-digest-request@tmbg.org for instructions on how to be automatically removed. --------------------------------------------------------------------- The views expressed herein are those of the individual authors. --------------------------------------------------------------------- tmbg-list is digested with Digest 3.5b (John Relph ). ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "L Holstein" Subject: TMBG: I got my first one. Date: Mon, 3 Jun 2002 17:27:11 +1000 Message-ID: A car and a convertee I just got my first car and I want a "GIANT DRIVING COMPELATION" *(sorry if i spelt that worng) so yeah. what would be the ultimate TMBG CD/tape compelation to listen to while driving ??? and also This one is fairly off topic but I have just found out that I converted a person to TMBG fandom!!!! He watched the "rage" special that was on here a few months ago and is now a fan... I think thats kinda cool... bye bye Lyndy [Attachment omitted, unknown MIME type or encoding (text/html)] [Attachment omitted, unknown MIME type or encoding (multipart/alternative)] ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Jun 2002 12:31:46 -0400 From: Leo Bicknell Subject: TMBG: Limiting posting to reduce spam, your opinion? Message-ID: <20020604163146.GA8858@ussenterprise.ufp.org> Organization: United Federation of Planets I have been getting an increasing number of spam complaints, and have been taking a number of steps to reduce the amount of spam through tmbg.org. One of the suggestions was to limit who could post to tmbg-list. There are several options: 1) Everyone who is on tmbg-list can post from the address subscribed to the list. This means your "From" address must match the address the list uses to send you mail. If it doesn't, your post is rejected. 2) Create a new mailing list, tmbg-list-post. It would be impossible to send an actual message to this list, but you could subscribe and unsubscribe. You can enter as many e-mail addresses as you like. When your post comes in the "From" address must match something on tmbg-list-post, and it will then be sent to tmbg-list. 3) The list could become moderated. That means a human would review all posts before they are sent to the list, and approve them. There would need to be several people willing to moderate messages, and conversations would be considerably slower as messages wait for human approval. 4) Do nothing, the spam isn't really that bad. If you have an opinion, now is the time! -- Leo Bicknell - bicknell@ufp.org - CCIE 3440 PGP keys at http://www.ufp.org/~bicknell/ Read TMBG List - tmbg-list-request@tmbg.org, www.tmbg.org ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 04 Jun 2002 12:42:34 -0400 Subject: Re: TMBG: Limiting posting to reduce spam, your opinion? From: the hanged man Message-ID: Options 1 and 2 seem the most reasonable to me. on 6/4/02 12:31 PM, Leo Bicknell wrote: > > I have been getting an increasing number of spam complaints, and > have been taking a number of steps to reduce the amount of spam > through tmbg.org. One of the suggestions was to limit who could > post to tmbg-list. > > There are several options: > > 1) Everyone who is on tmbg-list can post from the address subscribed > to the list. This means your "From" address must match the > address the list uses to send you mail. If it doesn't, your > post is rejected. > > 2) Create a new mailing list, tmbg-list-post. It would be impossible > to send an actual message to this list, but you could subscribe > and unsubscribe. You can enter as many e-mail addresses as you > like. When your post comes in the "From" address must match > something on tmbg-list-post, and it will then be sent to tmbg-list. > > 3) The list could become moderated. That means a human would review > all posts before they are sent to the list, and approve them. > There would need to be several people willing to moderate > messages, and conversations would be considerably slower as > messages wait for human approval. > > 4) Do nothing, the spam isn't really that bad. > > If you have an opinion, now is the time! -- Matt Brown (hangdman@cc.gatech.edu) cs1321 TA Ga Tech Undergrad Philosophy Society Chairman http://thm.askee.net Society of Physics Students Member -= "Every day is a good day" - Zen Proverb =- ------------------------------ Message-ID: <3CFCEF94.8EE891A4@fruhead.com> Date: Tue, 04 Jun 2002 12:49:24 -0400 From: lawrence solomon Subject: Re: TMBG: Limiting posting to reduce spam, your opinion? the hanged man wrote: > > Options 1 and 2 seem the most reasonable to me. > > 1) Everyone who is on tmbg-list can post from the address subscribed > > to the list. This means your "From" address must match the > > address the list uses to send you mail. If it doesn't, your > > post is rejected. > > > > 2) Create a new mailing list, tmbg-list-post. It would be impossible > > to send an actual message to this list, but you could subscribe > > and unsubscribe. You can enter as many e-mail addresses as you > > like. When your post comes in the "From" address must match > > something on tmbg-list-post, and it will then be sent to tmbg-list. I'd prefer option 2, since option 1 doesn't allow for people with email aliases who subscribe their actual address to the list (because why forward when you don't have to?) option 2 is like option 1, but with the ability to have aliases or the ability to post from multiple accounts without receiving extra posts. ------------------------------ Subject: RE: TMBG: Limiting posting to reduce spam, your opinion? Date: Tue, 4 Jun 2002 13:06:41 -0400 Message-ID: From: "Karin Highfield" I know high-tech solutions, or at least complicated ones, are way more fun, but what's the problem with just deleting? We get spam so sporadically, just delete it, it'll take 2 clicks... Now, if we were getting an aol's worth of spam every night, that we had to wade through to find the "real" mail, that would be grounds for blockades, & modified lists, & moderators. & Besides, what would we do without our Russian phonebooks to look forward to??? Karin H never know what you'll find [Attachment omitted, unknown MIME type or encoding (text/html)] Leo Bicknell : > 1) Everyone who is on tmbg-list can post from the address > subscribed to the list... > > 2) Create a new mailing list, tmbg-list-post... > > 3) The list could become moderated... > > 4) Do nothing, the spam isn't really that bad. > > If you have an opinion, now is the time! Here's my order of preference: 4, 1, 3, 2. I think the spam will probably subside with time, if we don't respond to it. The only bad thing about option 1 is that occasionally, legitimate posts do come in from the unsubscribed (well, at least from Joshua Fried, whom I believe to be unsubscribed. But then again, his show announcements are technically spam too). I don't mind a moderated list if that's what people want. But option 2 is a waste of Leo's effort; it allows people to post unmoderated without receiving the list at all, which is not significantly different from what we have today. That's my sixteen cents. Bryce From owner-tmbg-list@tmbg.org Tue Jun 4 13:14:12 2002 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by ussenterprise.ufp.org (8.11.1/8.11.1) id g54HEC910336 for tmbg-list-outgoing; Tue, 4 Jun 2002 13:14:12 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from owner-tmbg-list@tmbg.org) Received: from imo-m02.mx.aol.com (imo-m02.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.5]) by ussenterprise.ufp.org (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id g54HECJ10328 for ; Tue, 4 Jun 2002 13:14:12 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from Furfr@aol.com) Received: from Furfr@aol.com by imo-m02.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v32.5.) id i.1a0.337e975 (15874) for ; Tue, 4 Jun 2002 13:13:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from aol.com (mow-d02.webmail.aol.com [205.188.138.66]) by air-id07.mx.aol.com (v86.12) with ESMTP id MAILINID71-0604131354; Tue, 04 Jun 2002 13:13:54 -0400 Date: Tue, 04 Jun 2002 13:13:54 -0400 From: Furfr@aol.com To: tmbg-list@tmbg.org Subject: RE: TMBG: Limiting posting to reduce spam, your opinion? Message-ID: <55B7C163.2607B311.0000F199@aol.com> X-Mailer: Atlas Mailer 2.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-tmbg-list@tmbg.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: Furfr@aol.com >>Now, if we were getting an aol's worth of spam every night, that we had to wade through to find the "real" mail, that would be grounds for blockades, & modified lists, & moderators. Maybe the only reason I'm bothered by it is that the list goes to my aol mailbox, making it double-spammy. Not to mention I am compelled to read all of the responses to TMBGlist spam, just in case someone says something funny. From owner-tmbg-list@tmbg.org Tue Jun 4 13:51:57 2002 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by ussenterprise.ufp.org (8.11.1/8.11.1) id g54HpvS11455 for tmbg-list-outgoing; Tue, 4 Jun 2002 13:51:57 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from owner-tmbg-list@tmbg.org) Received: (from bicknell@localhost) by ussenterprise.ufp.org (8.11.1/8.11.1) id g54Hpv811449 for tmbg-list-majordom@tmbg.org; Tue, 4 Jun 2002 13:51:57 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from bicknell) Received: from smtp.mailix.net (smtp.mailix.net [216.148.213.132]) by ussenterprise.ufp.org (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id g54HPgJ10649 for ; Tue, 4 Jun 2002 13:25:42 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from bryce@tmbg.org) Received: from [10.0.8.10] (helo=calcium) by smtp.mailix.net with smtp (Exim 4.01) id 17FI3y-0003JN-00 for tmbg-list@tmbg.org; Tue, 04 Jun 2002 10:25:42 -0700 Received: by calcium (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Tue, 4 Jun 2002 13:25:41 -0400 Received: from 208.22.73.21 ( [208.22.73.21]) as user bryceland.com@bryceland.com@mailix-imap.frontend by webmail2.namezero.com with HTTP; Tue, 4 Jun 2002 13:25:41 -0400 Message-ID: <1023211541.3cfcf815c78a0@webmail2.namezero.com> Date: Tue, 4 Jun 2002 13:25:41 -0400 From: Bryce To: tmbg-list@tmbg.org Subject: Re: TMBG: Limiting posting to reduce spam, your opinion? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) 3.0 X-Originating-IP: 208.22.73.21 Sender: owner-tmbg-list@tmbg.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: Bryce lawrence solomon : > I'd prefer option 2, since option 1 doesn't allow for > people with email aliases who subscribe their actual > address to the list (because why forward when you > don't have to?) Well, I think the same mail server handles both list messages and alias forwarding, so subscribing your alias to the list doesn't generate any more internet traffic than subscribing your aliased address. It uses more CPU cycles on the mail server itself, but I don't think that's an issue at our current size. I don't think there's really a good reason to post from a different address than you subscribed with. (But then, I still prefer to do nothing anyway. :) > option 2 is like option 1, but with the ability to have > aliases or the ability to post from multiple accounts > without receiving extra posts. Do you really need to post with more than one of your email addresses, though? I still don't think option 2 gives us anything worthwhile. Bryce From owner-tmbg-list@tmbg.org Tue Jun 4 15:16:24 2002 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by ussenterprise.ufp.org (8.11.1/8.11.1) id g54JGOY14242 for tmbg-list-outgoing; Tue, 4 Jun 2002 15:16:24 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from owner-tmbg-list@tmbg.org) Received: from imo-m05.mx.aol.com (imo-m05.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.8]) by ussenterprise.ufp.org (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id g54JGOJ14234 for ; Tue, 4 Jun 2002 15:16:24 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from TMBG37@aol.com) Received: from TMBG37@aol.com by imo-m05.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v32.5.) id i.7f.27100e28 (4588) for ; Tue, 4 Jun 2002 15:16:12 -0400 (EDT) From: TMBG37@aol.com Message-ID: <7f.27100e28.2a2e6bfb@aol.com> Date: Tue, 4 Jun 2002 15:16:11 EDT Subject: Re: TMBG: Limiting posting to reduce spam, your opinion? To: tmbg-list@tmbg.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 7.0 for Windows US sub 10503 Sender: owner-tmbg-list@tmbg.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: TMBG37@aol.com Look, who gives a damn. I think some of the incrediblyrichafricanwhogotarrestedandwantstogivetheirmoneytoyou spams are pretty entertaining. Choice 4 for me. ==================================================== Evil lurks where you least expect it... So check your sock drawer. ==================================================== From owner-tmbg-list@tmbg.org Tue Jun 4 15:34:50 2002 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by ussenterprise.ufp.org (8.11.1/8.11.1) id g54JYoq14759 for tmbg-list-outgoing; Tue, 4 Jun 2002 15:34:50 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from owner-tmbg-list@tmbg.org) Received: from smtp.vzavenue.net (smtp.vzavenue.net [66.171.59.140]) by ussenterprise.ufp.org (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id g54JYoJ14751 for ; Tue, 4 Jun 2002 15:34:50 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from zaph@fruhead.com) Received: from fruhead.com ([63.100.163.74]) by smtp.vzavenue.net (Mirapoint Messaging Server MOS 2.9.3.2) with ESMTP id ABD93608 (AUTH zaph); Tue, 4 Jun 2002 15:34:42 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <3CFD1650.51C9FA84@fruhead.com> Date: Tue, 04 Jun 2002 15:34:40 -0400 From: lawrence solomon X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.4.7-10 i686) X-Accept-Language: en-GB, ja, en MIME-Version: 1.0 CC: tmbg-list@tmbg.org Subject: Re: TMBG: Limiting posting to reduce spam, your opinion? References: <1023211541.3cfcf815c78a0@webmail2.namezero.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-tmbg-list@tmbg.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: lawrence solomon Bryce wrote: > Well, I think the same mail server handles both list messages and alias > forwarding, so subscribing your alias to the list doesn't generate any more > internet traffic than subscribing your aliased address. It uses more CPU > cycles on the mail server itself, but I don't think that's an issue at our > current size. I don't think there's really a good reason to post from a > different address than you subscribed with. (But then, I still prefer to do > nothing anyway. :) but I'm not using my tmbg.org alias... From owner-tmbg-list@tmbg.org Tue Jun 4 15:57:04 2002 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by ussenterprise.ufp.org (8.11.1/8.11.1) id g54Jv4315359 for tmbg-list-outgoing; Tue, 4 Jun 2002 15:57:04 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from owner-tmbg-list@tmbg.org) Received: from gn-sterling.sterl.com (host08.sterl.com [209.122.15.200]) by ussenterprise.ufp.org (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id g54Jv3J15351 for ; Tue, 4 Jun 2002 15:57:03 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from karinh@sterl.com) Received: from semail02.STERLING.COM ([207.95.186.44]) by gn-sterling.sterl.com (NAVGW 2.5.1.19) with SMTP id M2002060415541030416 for ; Tue, 04 Jun 2002 15:54:10 -0400 content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Subject: RE: TMBG: Limiting posting to reduce spam, your opinion? X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.5762.3 Date: Tue, 4 Jun 2002 16:00:17 -0400 Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: TMBG: Limiting posting to reduce spam, your opinion? Thread-Index: AcIL/5ZTgJJSugnlRpyW64FpW298jAAAjNsw From: "Karin Highfield" To: "lawrence solomon" Cc: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by ussenterprise.ufp.org id g54Jv3J15352 Sender: owner-tmbg-list@tmbg.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: "Karin Highfield" Actually, subscribing to a tmbg list with a Hitchhikers/Fruvous alias should be punishable by.... umm... punishment... So there. > -----Original Message----- > From: lawrence solomon [mailto:zaph@fruhead.com] > Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 3:35 PM > Cc: tmbg-list@tmbg.org > Subject: Re: TMBG: Limiting posting to reduce spam, your opinion? > > > but I'm not using my tmbg.org alias... > From owner-tmbg-list@tmbg.org Tue Jun 4 21:41:17 2002 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by ussenterprise.ufp.org (8.11.1/8.11.1) id g551fH424312 for tmbg-list-outgoing; Tue, 4 Jun 2002 21:41:17 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from owner-tmbg-list@tmbg.org) Received: from imo-m09.mx.aol.com (imo-m09.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.164]) by ussenterprise.ufp.org (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id g551fGJ24304 for ; Tue, 4 Jun 2002 21:41:16 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from Fishandoranges@aol.com) Received: from Fishandoranges@aol.com by imo-m09.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v32.5.) id i.126.11ae0712 (3736) for ; Tue, 4 Jun 2002 21:41:04 -0400 (EDT) From: Fishandoranges@aol.com Message-ID: <126.11ae0712.2a2ec630@aol.com> Date: Tue, 4 Jun 2002 21:41:04 EDT Subject: Re: TMBG: I got my first one. To: tmbg-list@tmbg.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_126.11ae0712.2a2ec630_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10568 Sender: owner-tmbg-list@tmbg.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: Fishandoranges@aol.com --part1_126.11ae0712.2a2ec630_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 6/4/02 10:42:37 AM Eastern Daylight Time, karinh@sterl.com writes: > 1: ooooh, me too......or at least, it's very possible. there is an impressionable youth in my wind ensemble group at my school, and she saw the dial a song number on the back of one of my shirts one day, and called it! unfortunately, it wasn't working, but i'm making her a mix. wheeee. new tmbg fans! jessie. --part1_126.11ae0712.2a2ec630_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 6/4/02 10:42:37 AM Eastern Daylight Time, karinh@sterl.com writes:


1:  Converting someone to TMBG fandom is *never* off-topic!
ooooh, me too......or at least, it's very possible. there is an impressionable youth in my wind ensemble group at my school, and she saw the dial a song number on the back of one of my shirts one day, and called it! unfortunately, it wasn't working, but i'm making her a mix. wheeee. new tmbg fans!

jessie. --part1_126.11ae0712.2a2ec630_boundary-- From owner-tmbg-list@tmbg.org Tue Jun 4 21:43:03 2002 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by ussenterprise.ufp.org (8.11.1/8.11.1) id g551h3E24396 for tmbg-list-outgoing; Tue, 4 Jun 2002 21:43:03 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from owner-tmbg-list@tmbg.org) Received: from imo-m04.mx.aol.com (imo-m04.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.7]) by ussenterprise.ufp.org (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id g551h2J24388 for ; Tue, 4 Jun 2002 21:43:02 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from Fishandoranges@aol.com) Received: from Fishandoranges@aol.com by imo-m04.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v32.5.) id i.15c.e585a92 (3736) for ; Tue, 4 Jun 2002 21:42:49 -0400 (EDT) From: Fishandoranges@aol.com Message-ID: <15c.e585a92.2a2ec699@aol.com> Date: Tue, 4 Jun 2002 21:42:49 EDT Subject: Re: TMBG: Limiting posting to reduce spam, your opinion? To: tmbg-list@tmbg.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_15c.e585a92.2a2ec699_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10568 Sender: owner-tmbg-list@tmbg.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: Fishandoranges@aol.com --part1_15c.e585a92.2a2ec699_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 6/4/02 12:33:39 PM Eastern Daylight Time, bicknell@ufp.org writes: > > 1) Everyone who is on tmbg-list can post from the address subscribed > to the list. This means your "From" address must match the > address the list uses to send you mail. If it doesn't, your > post is rejected. i'm digging this one. everyone that's posting to the list is also recieving it, i assume, so it wouldn't really be a problem. jessie. --part1_15c.e585a92.2a2ec699_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 6/4/02 12:33:39 PM Eastern Daylight Time, bicknell@ufp.org writes:



1) Everyone who is on tmbg-list can post from the address subscribed
  to the list.  This means your "From" address must match the
  address the list uses to send you mail.  If it doesn't, your
  post is rejected.
i'm digging this one. everyone that's posting to the list is also recieving it, i assume, so it wouldn't really be a problem.

jessie. --part1_15c.e585a92.2a2ec699_boundary-- From owner-tmbg-list@tmbg.org Tue Jun 4 22:14:23 2002 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by ussenterprise.ufp.org (8.11.1/8.11.1) id g552ENC25297 for tmbg-list-outgoing; Tue, 4 Jun 2002 22:14:23 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from owner-tmbg-list@tmbg.org) Received: from imo-m01.mx.aol.com (imo-m01.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.4]) by ussenterprise.ufp.org (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id g552EMJ25288 for ; Tue, 4 Jun 2002 22:14:22 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from Alterian@aol.com) Received: from Alterian@aol.com by imo-m01.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v32.5.) id i.b6.c841a8a (3957) for ; Tue, 4 Jun 2002 22:14:08 -0400 (EDT) From: Alterian@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Tue, 4 Jun 2002 22:14:07 EDT Subject: Re: TMBG: Limiting posting to reduce spam, your opinion? To: tmbg-list@tmbg.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_b6.c841a8a.2a2ecdef_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 7.0 for Windows US sub 10512 Sender: owner-tmbg-list@tmbg.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: Alterian@aol.com --part1_b6.c841a8a.2a2ecdef_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Graa...just do anything....I get enough spam as it is since I'm on aol and I get behind or in a fury of deleting TMBSpam ((hehe they might be spam just amuses me...)) I could accidentally delete IMPORTANT TMBE-mail so...::waves arms frantically:: do something! ~^v^~Amber the Transcendent~^v^~ --part1_b6.c841a8a.2a2ecdef_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Graa...just do anything....I get enough spam as it is since I'm on aol and I get behind or in a fury of deleting TMBSpam  ((hehe they might be spam just amuses me...)) I could accidentally delete IMPORTANT TMBE-mail so...::waves arms frantically:: do something!

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