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------------------------------ From: PosterKid1@aol.com Message-ID: <186.caabc5b.2a924c9d@aol.com> Date: Mon, 19 Aug 2002 09:29:01 EDT Subject: Re: TMBG: oh my, what is this? In a message dated 8/19/02 6:15:01 AM, owner-tmbg-digest@tmbg.org writes: << PS if you see me at the Harrisburg Show, I'll be the lanky female with coke-bottle glasses and a home-made Flood (ahh, the good ol' music) T-shirt crying in a corner and humming Ana Ng.>> Are you single? ------------------------------ Subject: RE: TMBG: oh my, what is this? Date: Mon, 19 Aug 2002 10:36:50 -0400 Message-ID: From: "Karin Highfield" zaph@fruhead.com sez: > compared to No!, anything but Mink Car is an incredible record. Well, all this says is that "No!" is not their most incredible record... Fair enough. Even if it's their *least* incredible, that's like being the least bright member of Mensa, or the least talented guy on the Olympic Skateboarding Team. The least of the best, I could live with that... > I don't have the album yet because so far I've been mostly > unimpressed > with the songs I've heard. It's just.... weak. Have They ever put out an album that wasn't unfavorably compared with their previous work? Okay, No! is no Flood. As I recall having heard, (To my deep and abiding regret, I wasn't there at the time), Flood was a bit of a letdown to fans who thought it wasn't quite up to Lincoln standards. Now people are shaking their heads & saying "Well, it's no Flood, that's for sure." Well, there you go. It's no Flood. It's no A18, it's no Mink Car. It's No! It's always No! When I say No! I mean... okay, I'll stop now. umm, bye - Karin H ------------------------------ Message-ID: <3D610672.7070507@fruhead.com> Date: Mon, 19 Aug 2002 10:53:38 -0400 From: lawrence solomon Subject: Re: TMBG: oh my, what is this? Karin Highfield wrote: > zaph@fruhead.com sez: >> compared to No!, anything but Mink Car is an incredible record. > > Well, all this says is that "No!" is not their most incredible > record... Fair enough. Even if it's their *least* incredible, > that's like being the least bright member of Mensa, or the least > talented guy on the Olympic Skateboarding Team. The least of the > best, I could live with that... actually, it says that No! and Mink Car are their two *least* incredible records. everything is incredible compared to No!, except Mink Car, which is worse. "worlds tallest midget," too. > Have They ever put out an album that wasn't unfavorably compared with > their previous work? Okay, No! is no Flood. As I recall having > heard, (To my deep and abiding regret, I wasn't there at the time), > Flood was a bit of a letdown to fans who thought it wasn't quite up > to Lincoln standards. Now people are shaking their heads & saying > "Well, it's no Flood, that's for sure." Flood is *still* no Lincoln. But neither of them is John Henry. ------------------------------ Message-ID: <1029769783.3d610a3721d3e@webmail3.namezero.com> Date: Mon, 19 Aug 2002 11:09:43 -0400 From: Bryce Subject: Re: TMBG: oh my, what is this? Karin : > Well, there you go. It's no Flood. It's no A18, it's no Mink Car. At least we won't be able to say that their next album is no No! Because that's a double negative. Har har. Bryce It was not not not so great. ------------------------------ From: Gegatron@aol.com Message-ID: <5b.2c9f1159.2a92d7c1@aol.com> Date: Mon, 19 Aug 2002 19:22:41 EDT Subject: Re: TMBG: oh my, what is this? so all we've learned is that most people dont like TMBG's latest albums. All i can say is give em time. they'll grow on you just like every other album. ------------------------------ Message-ID: <3D618477.8050507@fruhead.com> Date: Mon, 19 Aug 2002 19:51:19 -0400 From: lawrence solomon Subject: Re: TMBG: oh my, what is this? Gegatron@aol.com wrote: > so all we've learned is that most people dont like TMBG's latest > albums. All i can say is give em time. they'll grow on you just > like every other album. not true. I *still* don't like Factory Showroom. :) ------------------------------ Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20020819230529.00a1fec0@pop-server.houston.rr.com> Date: Mon, 19 Aug 2002 23:11:00 -0500 From: Quinn Collard Subject: TMBG: Boston 8/17 show #1 review (Just occurred to me that a lot of you aren't in the newsgroup so I should post this here too...) Victorious Intro Clap Your Hands Bed Bed Bed New York City Everything Right is Wrong Again Dr. Worm Istanbul Drink! In the Middle John Lee Supertaster Why Does the Sun Shine? Man, It's So Loud in Here Robot Parade (children's ver) Kumbaya Dead Fingertips She's an Angel 4 of 2 Meet James Ensor No! ----- Violin She's Actual Size Older Birdhouse in Your Soul Banter/notes: JF: We're so happy to be here in this fine museum setting. This song is about where we're from...well, where we reside. It's not about Massachusetts. Flans said they were "celebrating their birthday month", and the ticket said something about the anniversary as well. JF: Sorry if we seem a little stunned, but we're not used to a sit-down crowd. Actually, we're not even used to a sober crowd...Dan Miller plays keyboard on this next song. JL: He was upstaging us, so we had to handicap him. JF: There's no room for show-offs here. JL: This song is about a segmented friend of ours. JF: *wiping off his face* I was wondering when I was going to be able to use my fine arts degree, because so far it hasn't reallly done anything. But look...I can tell the difference between a towel and a cheesecloth. A cheesecloth like this is used in making casts and stuff and I don't think it exactly has the same absorbency...This next song is dedicated to all the people in the audience who don't say 'whoo' when we say 'This song is for all the alcoholics.' *cheers from the audience* See, it's not for you, it's for all the people who are quiet, cos they don't wanna talk about it. JL: So that would be me, *pointing at Hickey* him, *pointing at Weinkauf* and that guy. They did the Dr. Evil intro/outro thing for Robin again, and Flans introduced her as "my wife", which I've never heard him do before. Gases on the sun: copper wire, aluminum foil, wooden sticks. No estrogen , instead he did that "different suburbs of the town we're in" thing he seems to be fond of lately (this is the third time I've seen him do it). Back to estrogen at the second show though. JL: Let's pause here, because I'm going to cough. Off-mic. (He does.) *cheers* Thank you. JF: You know, in India, they cough on-mic. It's considered good manners. You can cough right in someone's face...I'm wearing a Gap shirt, and I realized that if you wear a Gap shirt on stage, someone in the audience will be wearing that same Gap shirt. So that's why you shouldn't wear Gap shirts on stage. (My friend Corinne is convinced this was in reference to her, cos she was wearing a shirt very similar to Flans' and says he was looking at her quite a bit during the show.) JL: Or maybe why you should. JF: I don't wanna fit in, John. I don't wanna get along. JL: You know, playing in a museum is kind of destorying our bad boy image. But it reminds me of the little auditorium people used to play at in our high school. This next song-- At this point there was a weird noise and then the power went out. Dead silence for a minute, and then the spotlights came back on but nothing else. JF: How come you can get that to work but not this? ...Ok, how about we play some quiet songs? Is everyone ready for Kumbaya? (He leads audience singalong of it.) Does anyone have a flashlight, my lord? This actually happened at a show about a year ago-- Someone in the audience: I was there! Ok, we're going to go worry backstage. You guys... JL: Leave. It took about 20 mins for them to get it fixed (I was kind of hoping they wouldn't cos they did some pretty cool acoustic stuff the other time it happened). Near the end the audience sang Kiss Me, Son of God (Whistling in the Dark would have of course been the obvious choice...) Then someone yelled "Do Birdhouse!" and I yelled "We can't do Birdhouse, *they're* going to do Birdhouse!" A few people started it but then they came back anyway. JF: We were singing the Rockford Files theme backstage. I don't know *what* you people were doing. JL: This song--if I say the exact same words will it make the power go out again? It's like my memory's been wiped. Hey, if we were to do a singalong of the Rockford Files theme, how many people here would be able to do it? *pause* Ok, *no one*. Well, we got five guys on stage here who know the whole thing. JF: How *were* you going to introduce the next song? JL: I don't remember. JF: This next song-- JL: It's the Rockford Files theme! No, I'm kidding. It's not that. JL: *plays nifty little thing that sounds like something he got out of an accordion technique book or something* I just wanted to see if I could do that. JF: We have a new album out, which is ostensibly a children's album, but it's like a Dark Side of the Moon for children. And this song was actually written for adults, but we had to take out the desicated body at the end and make it into more of a Rip Van Winkle thing. JL: I think a lot of kids would have actually prefered the gross version. JF: We focus grouped it with 7 year old girls and 8 year old boys, and the 8 year old boys liked the desicated body, but the 7 year old girls liked the Rip Van Winkle thing. JL: There's not enough things culturally for little girls, because--apparently there's this thing where they found out girls like boy things but boys don't like girl things, so everything has to be for boys, and...I don't agree with that. So this is our little girl song that we wrote. It's about a clock in New York that was broken but to my great anger and disappointment they fixed it. JF: We want to thank the spotlight guys, who we'll never meet. Shine the lights on each other, guys. Get a taste of your own medicine. How delicious. The pain of the spotlight...It's been a stone-cold gas playing here. JL: I think we should do the wave. We can do it back to front or front to back...I just realized it will have to be front to back, it won't work the other way. (Each row of seats was a little farther up like in a stadium.) So we'll start it, and then when it gets to our lighting guy Iggy the encore will commence. I don't know why, that's just how it's going to be. And then after that you're going to have to sit down, cos if ever there was a song for sitting down, it's the next one...Or do whatever you want. JF: There's no peer pressure. Just because there's a 7-foot guy standing up in front of you, don't feel obligated to stand up. Flans is starting to get creative during the drum solos. "And speaking of how cowbells rock..." "To compare and contrast between Animal and the demure and lovely Buddy Rich, through an agreement with Buddy Rich International, to toggle, to meander, to cascade, to roll down the highway, to...switch at random between those two things..." "We've gotten complaints that Animal was not well represented. We've gotten phone calls from his lawyers." Let's see, what else...John was wearing a green shirt with blue on the collar and sleeves (like the orange and yellow ones he has) and black jeans and he *didn't have any coffee,* just a bottle of water. After the show I saw an old couple being escorted backstage who I think were Flans' parents cos the guy looked a lot like his dad does in that picture. I tried to get John's setlist but the guitar tech came over and yelled at me and said I couldn't cos they were using it again. They didn't and it was gone when I got back for the second show so I was very upset...I know it had Sleepwalkers and a few other things on it that they cut (this is the 4th or 5th time that's hhappened to me with Sleepwalkers). Quinn {http://www.angelfire.com/tx/quinncorner/index.html} "I wish that everything went just as I wish everything would go." ~John Linnell ------------------------------ Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20020819231106.009e7d90@pop-server.houston.rr.com> Date: Mon, 19 Aug 2002 23:12:18 -0500 From: Quinn Collard Subject: TMBG: Boston 8/17 show #2 review Victorious Intro She's an Angel Meet James Ensor Dr. Worm Cyclops Rock Dead In the Middle She's Actual Size James K. Polk Why Does the Sun Shine? Spin the Dial Older Bed Bed Bed Fingertips Ana Ng The Guitar 4 of 2 John Lee Supertaster How Can I Sing Like a Girl? No! ----- Clap Your Hands Birdhouse in Your Soul New York City ----- Istanbul Banter/notes: JF: We'd like to thank you for coming to the show here in the continuing education center. JL: This is a song about a worm! People love the worm songs! You gotta do the worm songs! JF: This is our second show tonight and we're happy because our parents have left so we're free to swear. The ultimate crutch. That and a drunken crowd. This next song draws on some classical themes, it's based on Greek mythology... JL: It was at exactly this point in the last show that the power went out. (I don't know where he got this from...it happend at about the halfway point and he was saying this after four songs.) And it was actually one of the most beautiful things in the show, but we can't say, like, "That was great, let's do it again." We can't fake it. And...I'd like to go off on one other pointless tangent here...I noticed during the first song that there were these lights on the back wall. And I'd never seen anything like that before. And I realized that for the first time there were lights at a concert that were for the benefit of the band and not the audience. None of you could see them; they were just for us. I was deeply touched. Flans kissed Robin as she was walking offstage and he was walking back on. They did Ringo during the drum solos, which I'd never heard before. Gases on the sun: Boston radio stations. JF: (introducing Spin the Dial) Skeptics, know-it-all's, braniacs, might think this is fake, but the only thing that's fake about it is the emotions we pour into each and every performance. And girls whose boyfriends are leaning over to them and telling them this is fake...girls...you can do better. Now, should we start on the left or the right? JL: Let's take a vote and pretend it's fair. JF: Who wants to start on the left? Who wants to start on the right? (People held up their hands.) He found a couple of rap songs and something that inspired "get off your ass and see theirs", but that was about it. At one point John held up his wrist to suggst it was taking up too much time even though he wasn't actually wearing a watch. So a few songs later: JF: That was the shittiest radio ever. It was all ads! We've thought it sucked before...We've been to places where there are like 2 stations and found something to do, but that was cold comfort. JL: Where's the oldies station? Audience: 103.3! JF: 103? *turns radio back on and they play a little of whatever was on* See, we could've done something like that, but no. JL: *looking at Miller* Are you in E flat over there? JF: Yeh. JL: No, that's wrong...We're gonna play a song that we practiced. JF: Sorry about the swearing. It's hard-wired. We swear at children's shows. JL: This song is about a stopped clock that...didn't go. Cos it was stopped. At one point there was something wrong with Flans' guitar so he went and yelled at the tech ("This is totally fucked up!") which made me happy cos it was the guy who wouldn't let me get the setlist from the first show. The Supertaster intro was modified to "about a year ago in Brooklyn." JF: We want to thank the audience individually. *singing* Is that a head brace? Sorry man...Thank you people in the back...it's like Pay-Per-View... Mailing off the film today so I should have pics up in a week or so. Quinn {http://www.angelfire.com/tx/quinncorner/index.html} "I wish that everything went just as I wish everything would go." ~John Linnell ------------------------------ From: "Nathan Mulac DeHoff" Subject: Re: TMBG: oh my, what is this? Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2002 04:38:06 +0000 Message-ID: >From: lawrence solomon >Reply-To: lawrence solomon >CC: tmbg-digest@tmbg.org >Subject: Re: TMBG: oh my, what is this? >Date: Sun, 18 Aug 2002 12:06:15 -0400 > >Furfr@aol.com wrote: > > Not to mention, you do realize that No! is an incredible record, > > don't you? > >compared to Mink Car, *anything* is an incredible record. > >compared to No!, anything but Mink Car is an incredible record. Anything at all, or anything else by TMBG? >I don't have the album yet because so far I've been mostly unimpressed with >the songs I've heard. It's just.... weak. What if the songs you HAVEN'T heard are amazingly awesome, though? Incidentally, do you like ANY recent TMBG songs or albums? -- Be your own broom, Nathan DinnerBell@tmbg.org http://www.geocities.com/fablesto/ _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com ------------------------------ Message-ID: <3D61CF07.309@fruhead.com> Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2002 01:09:27 -0400 From: lawrence solomon Subject: Re: TMBG: oh my, what is this? Nathan Mulac DeHoff wrote: >> Furfr@aol.com wrote: >> > Not to mention, you do realize that No! is an incredible record, >> > don't you? >> >> compared to Mink Car, *anything* is an incredible record. >> >> compared to No!, anything but Mink Car is an incredible record. > > > Anything at all, or anything else by TMBG? let's say anything by TMBG. there's some pretty horrendous stuff out there, otherwise. > Incidentally, do you like ANY recent TMBG songs or albums? depends on how recent. 4 of 2 is cool, even if they did change it to a less violent version from the original. but songs like Clap Your Hands and Robot Parade really detract from the album. and I actually do think Mink Car has a few good tracks on it - Bangs is a good idea, although the recording is a little weak; Hopeless Bleak Despair is classic Linnell, although I feel there's something... missing; Hovering Sombrero is good, but is hardly "recent" at 13 years old... and I like the song Cyclops Rock, just not the version on Mink Car. there are a few others but I'm not going to go through every track on every album right now. :) and most of Linnell's contributions to Factory Showroom are quite good. I really wish I could say the same of Flansburgh's, but... they're sub-par for Flansburgh, not to mention TMBG. (that isn't to say Flansburgh isn't as good a songwriter as Linnell, but that there was a standard for each of them, and I think Linnell met and possibly surpassed his on the album, and Flans fell short of what I'd expect from him given what he'd done before 1996) album-wise, though, the last full album I can say I really like as an album is John Henry. the others have too many weaker tracks for me to want to listen to the whole CDs. ------------------------------ End of tmbg-list Digest #56-20 ******************************