Errors-To: owner-tmbg-digest@tmbg.org Reply-To: tmbg-digest@tmbg.org Sender: owner-tmbg-digest@tmbg.org Precedence: bulk From: owner-tmbg-digest@tmbg.org To: tmbg-digest@tmbg.org Subject: tmbg-list Digest #65-13 tmbg-list Digest, Volume 65, Number 13 Friday, 20 June 2003 Today's Topics: Re: TMBG: Mink Car and the new FoW album. TMBG: TMBG clock radio Re: TMBG: TMBG clock radio Re: TMBG: Mink Car and the new FoW album. Re: TMBG: Mink Car and the new FoW album. Re: TMBG: Mink Car and the new FoW album. TMBG: Clock Working Again Re: TMBG: TMBG clock radio Administrivia: If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing send mail to tmbg-digest-request@tmbg.org for instructions on how to be automatically removed. --------------------------------------------------------------------- The views expressed herein are those of the individual authors. --------------------------------------------------------------------- tmbg-list is digested with Digest 3.5b (John Relph ). ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "John Ferrer" Subject: Re: TMBG: Mink Car and the new FoW album. Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2003 11:45:00 -0400 Message-ID: I didn't mean to say it was only the fault of the producers. The main problem of course is that the album was made out of about 50 different sessions with different people, so to me it sounds like a mess. The next problem is that the Johns are such nice, easygoing people that they try out any half-baked suggestion someone makes. This isn't even a negative quality, but if they weren't like that, I've Got A Fang would never have been ruined. I'm going for overdramatic exaggeration here though, obviously it's all subjective, so I really don't mind. Mink Car just isn't all that much in line with what I usually like from them. I mean, if anything is an example of how everyone likes something different, it's Mink Car. It was just bizarre when it came out, reading all the pros and cons people had about it. A lot of people hate it because of style-bending songs like So Loud and Mr. Xcitement, which are my two favorite songs on the CD. It seems like nobody at all can agree on what they like or what they don't. So whatever. Next album, please. >From: lawrence solomon >Reply-To: lawrence solomon >CC: tmbg-list@tmbg.org >Subject: Re: TMBG: Mink Car and the new FoW album. >Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 17:07:06 -0400 > >Nathan Mulac DeHoff wrote: > the > > blame on the producers, rather than on the band. I'm sure Mink Car's > > suckiness (if, indeed, you do think it sucks) was a group effort. If we > >definitely a group effort. I mean, the songwriting is still John and >John. the choice of tracks is still theirs. and the choice of >arrangement is probably mostly theirs and the Dans, too. the weird sax >breaks in I've Got a Fang and My Man aren't the fault of the producers. >(at least not entirely) > >I think a lot of the blame can be placed simply on the fact that there >was no consistency to the production, sometimes even within a single >song (the bridge of Hopeless Bleak Despair was apparently written and >produced at a different time and in a different location from the rest >of the song). they didn't really get to go into the studio for a month >and record an album. and the result was a sub-par album. > > > Nathan, who realizes this is nonsense, and that the whole thing is >really > > Flans's brother's fault > > --I mean, can you ever trust a guy in a commune? He MUST be to blame! > >commune? I thought he was in a cult. > _________________________________________________________________ Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2003 11:05:36 -0600 (MDT) From: Chris Nuccitelli Subject: TMBG: TMBG clock radio Message-ID: Has anyone had any luck getting the tmbg.com flash streaming audio program (TMBG Clock Radio) to actually work? When I fire it up it connects and shows the name of the current song, but doesn't ever actually play any songs. The volume's turned up and everything else audio related on my computer works fine. -- slothradio - indepdendent synthpop webradio http://www.slothradio.com/ ------------------------------ Subject: Re: TMBG: TMBG clock radio From: "Bill Seybolt" Message-ID: Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2003 13:22:20 -0400 I can get it to work on my Mac (OSX). However, no luck on my PC. It was working for a little bit when I first downloaded it. owner-tmbg-list@tmbg.org wrote on 06/19/2003 01:05:36 PM: > Has anyone had any luck getting the tmbg.com flash streaming audio program > (TMBG Clock Radio) to actually work? When I fire it up it connects and > shows the name of the current song, but doesn't ever actually play any > songs. The volume's turned up and everything else audio related on my > computer works fine. > > -- > slothradio - indepdendent synthpop webradio > http://www.slothradio.com/ [Attachment omitted, unknown MIME type or encoding (text/html)] John Ferrer: >I didn't mean to say it was only the fault of the producers. The main >problem of course is that the album was made out of about 50 different >sessions with different people, so to me it sounds like a mess. If you hadn't known ahead of time that they were working with a lot of producers during a lot of different sessions, do you think you might have liked the album better? Or do you think this would have been obvious to you just from listening to it? I'm just curious as to how much what you know about the behind-the-scenes stuff affects your perception of the album. (And I'm asking anyone who wants to answer here, not just John.) >It seems like nobody at all can agree on what they like or what they don't. But really, has there been a TMBG song everyone agreed on since "Birdhouse In Your Soul"? Nathan _________________________________________________________________ Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail From owner-tmbg-list@tmbg.org Thu Jun 19 15:36:34 2003 Received: from ussenterprise.ufp.org (majordom@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ussenterprise.ufp.org (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h5JJaYaT082473 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Thu, 19 Jun 2003 15:36:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by ussenterprise.ufp.org (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h5JJaYmo082472 for tmbg-list-outgoing; Thu, 19 Jun 2003 15:36:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ussenterprise.ufp.org (bicknell@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ussenterprise.ufp.org (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h5JJaYaT082466 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Thu, 19 Jun 2003 15:36:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from bicknell@localhost) by ussenterprise.ufp.org (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h5JJaYPx082465 for tmbg-list@tmbg.org; Thu, 19 Jun 2003 15:36:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from imf24aec.bellsouth.net (imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.72]) by ussenterprise.ufp.org (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h5JJXgaS082354 for ; Thu, 19 Jun 2003 15:33:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.1.96] ([68.154.48.31]) by imf24aec.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20030619193337.ZLSN16268.imf24aec.bellsouth.net@[192.168.1.96]>; Thu, 19 Jun 2003 15:33:37 -0400 User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/10.0.0.1309 Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2003 15:33:34 -0400 Subject: Re: TMBG: Mink Car and the new FoW album. From: the hanged man To: Nathan Mulac DeHoff , tmbg-list Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-tmbg-list@tmbg.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: the hanged man on 6/19/03 3:28 PM, Nathan Mulac DeHoff brought forth the following from the ugyldig: > But really, has there been a TMBG song everyone agreed on since "Birdhouse > In Your Soul"? Man, I hate that song. Okay, not really. ;) -- Matt Brown (thehangedman@askee.net) http://thm.askee.net http://thm.askee.net/webpages.html Philosophy, Web Design, Tutoring http://thm.askee.net/tutor.html From owner-tmbg-list@tmbg.org Thu Jun 19 16:05:58 2003 Received: from ussenterprise.ufp.org (majordom@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ussenterprise.ufp.org (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h5JK5waT083652 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Thu, 19 Jun 2003 16:05:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by ussenterprise.ufp.org (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h5JK5wXU083651 for tmbg-list-outgoing; Thu, 19 Jun 2003 16:05:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp.vzavenue.net (smtp.vzavenue.net [66.171.59.140]) by ussenterprise.ufp.org (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h5JK5waS083645 for ; Thu, 19 Jun 2003 16:05:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fruhead.com ([63.100.163.27]) by smtp.vzavenue.net (Mirapoint Messaging Server MOS 3.2.4-GA) with ESMTP id AQY16805 (AUTH zaph); Thu, 19 Jun 2003 16:05:51 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <3EF21764.801@fruhead.com> Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2003 16:04:52 -0400 From: lawrence solomon User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.01; Windows NT 5.0; DigExt) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 CC: tmbg-list@tmbg.org Subject: Re: TMBG: Mink Car and the new FoW album. References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-tmbg-list@tmbg.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: lawrence solomon Nathan Mulac DeHoff wrote: > If you hadn't known ahead of time that they were working with a lot of > producers during a lot of different sessions, do you think you might have > liked the album better? Or do you think this would have been obvious to you > just from listening to it? I'm just curious as to how much what you know > about the behind-the-scenes stuff affects your perception of the album. > (And I'm asking anyone who wants to answer here, not just John.) I think knowing how it was put together isn't that relevant. I know that when I first heard Mink Car I was unimpressed, even though I knew nothing about how it was produced. but when I found out about that I thought "Oh, that explains the disjointedness, at least." From owner-tmbg-list@tmbg.org Thu Jun 19 16:38:32 2003 Received: from ussenterprise.ufp.org (majordom@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ussenterprise.ufp.org (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h5JKcWaT085089 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Thu, 19 Jun 2003 16:38:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by ussenterprise.ufp.org (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h5JKcWBw085088 for tmbg-list-outgoing; Thu, 19 Jun 2003 16:38:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from imo-r03.mx.aol.com (imo-r03.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.99]) by ussenterprise.ufp.org (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h5JKcVaS085062 for ; Thu, 19 Jun 2003 16:38:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from Kaylum@aol.com by imo-r03.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36.3.) id i.1c2.b602a66 (4012) for ; Thu, 19 Jun 2003 16:38:25 -0400 (EDT) From: Kaylum@aol.com Message-ID: <1c2.b602a66.2c237940@aol.com> Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2003 16:38:24 EDT Subject: TMBG: Clock Working Again To: tmbg-list@tmbg.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_1c2.b602a66.2c237940_boundary" X-Mailer: 8.0 for Windows sub 6011 Sender: owner-tmbg-list@tmbg.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: Kaylum@aol.com --part1_1c2.b602a66.2c237940_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit It was a security issue, but it's fixed now :) Kay --part1_1c2.b602a66.2c237940_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable It was a security issue, but it's fixed now :)

Kay --part1_1c2.b602a66.2c237940_boundary-- From owner-tmbg-list@tmbg.org Thu Jun 19 20:43:32 2003 Received: from ussenterprise.ufp.org (majordom@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ussenterprise.ufp.org (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h5K0hWaT094047 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Thu, 19 Jun 2003 20:43:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by ussenterprise.ufp.org (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h5K0hWK5094046 for tmbg-list-outgoing; Thu, 19 Jun 2003 20:43:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from aibo.runbox.com (cujo.runbox.com [193.71.199.138]) by ussenterprise.ufp.org (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h5K0hUaT094041 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO) for ; Thu, 19 Jun 2003 20:43:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [10.9.9.110] (helo=snoopy-bak.runbox.com) by lufsen.runbox.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 19TA01-00084i-9T for tmbg-list@tmbg.org; Fri, 20 Jun 2003 02:43:29 +0200 Received: from [24.45.2.33] (helo=Messiah.runbox.com) (Authenticated Sender=poisonflower@runbox.com) by snoopy-bak.runbox.com with asmtp (Exim 4.14) id 19T9zj-0000To-Us for tmbg-list@tmbg.org; Fri, 20 Jun 2003 02:43:12 +0200 Message-Id: <5.2.0.9.0.20030619204225.00b26300@pop.runbox.com> X-Sender: poisonflower@pop.runbox.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.0.9 Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2003 20:43:00 -0400 To: tmbg-list@tmbg.org From: jessie Subject: Re: TMBG: TMBG clock radio In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Sender: 166369 Sender: owner-tmbg-list@tmbg.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: jessie At 11:05 AM 6/19/2003 -0600, Chris Nuccitelli wrote: >Has anyone had any luck getting the tmbg.com flash streaming audio program >(TMBG Clock Radio) to actually work? When I fire it up it connects and >shows the name of the current song, but doesn't ever actually play any >songs. The volume's turned up and everything else audio related on my >computer works fine. the exact same thing's been happening to me. help, please?? ------------------------------ End of tmbg-list Digest #65-13 ******************************