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          tmbg-list Digest, Volume 3, Number 72

                 Thursday, 13 March 1997

Today's Topics:

       TMBG: Portland, OR Concert Review Type Thing
TMBG: RE: (what's wrong with) CDNOW "GENRES"; defense of the B-52's
                    RE: TMBG: Boston?
           TMBG: Weep Day, Tambo and Urine Man
           TMBG: Weep Day, Tambo and Urine Man
RE: TMBG: cdnow "genres", not to be confused with Ellen Generes
                RE: TMBG: Show last night!
     RE: TMBG: Portland, OR Concert Review Type Thing
                  NON-TMBG: BFF sonicnet
                  TMBG: CDnow 'generes'
                   NON-TMBG: bff fixed
                 Re: TMBG: cdnow "genres"
                    Re: NON-TMBG: ESPN
     RE: TMBG: Portland, OR Concert Review Type Thing
            Re: TMBG:  Seattle Concert Review
               TMBG: Uncle Mingo/The Guitar
                   TMBG: Sorry, guys...
                  TMBG: Portland Concert
TMBG: Com. Central, House of Style song, mp3, Boat, Thing, Then
              TMBG: Portland Oregon Concert
RE: RE: TMBG: nixon, bootleg vid2, bootlegs, honeymoon, sexxy, replacements
     RE: TMBG: Portland, OR Concert Review Type Thing
            RE: TMBG:  Seattle Concert Review
                  Re: TMBG: Veruca Salt
                        TMBG: MP3
         Re: TMBG: Weep Day, Tambo and Urine Man
              Re: TMBG: DAS online and TBAR
                  Re: TMBG: Dial a Song
            Re: TMBG: Linnell the Highlander?
     RE: TMBG: Portland, OR Concert Review Type Thing
            RE: TMBG: Portland Oregon Concert
     RE: TMBG: Portland, OR Concert Review Type Thing
     RE: TMBG: Portland, OR Concert Review Type Thing
     RE: TMBG: Portland, OR Concert Review Type Thing
         Re: TMBG: the OMLT goddess... dead at 16
                   TMBG:  Seattle show
            RE: TMBG: Portland Oregon Concert
                      TMBG: Greek #3
                    TMBG: CALVIN show
            RE: TMBG: Portland Oregon Concert
                 Re: TMBG:  Seattle show
         TMBG: Review of the Complete FS Sessions
       TMBG: The Complete Factory Showroom Sessions
   TMBG: She doesn't have to have her dB's records back
                  TMBG: TMBG-Conga*line
     Re: TMBG: The Complete Factory Showroom Sessions
                   TMBG: Brian Dewan...
     Re: TMBG: The Complete Factory Showroom Sessions
                 TMBG: Re: Brian Dewan...
                     RE: TMBG: Dewan
                       TMBG: *sigh*
       TMBG: Factory Showroom Sessions (And More!)
     Re: TMBG: Factory Showroom Sessions (And More!)
     Re: TMBG: Factory Showroom Sessions (And More!)
            Re: TMBG:  Seattle Concert Review
            Re: TMBG:  Seattle Concert Review
     Re: TMBG: Portland, OR Concert Review Type Thing
                         TMBG: q
                   TMBG: Inside Space.
                 Re: TMBG:  Seattle show
                     RE: TMBG: Dewan
            Re: TMBG:  Seattle Concert Review
            Re: TMBG:  Seattle Concert Review
                   Re: TMBG: Urine Man?
                Re: TMBG: TMBG-Conga*line
                 TMBG: possible old news
                     Re: TMBG: Dewan
             Re: TMBG: Seattle Concert Review
                       TMBG: Jungle
                Re: TMBG: TMBG-Conga*line
                TMBG: it's alive...ALIVE!!
                TMBG: OMLT order questions

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Message-Id: <3.0.32.19970312043748.00683ccc@pop.teleport.com>
Date: Wed, 12 Mar 1997 04:37:55 -0800
From: Kerry Biggs <murmur@teleport.com>
Subject: TMBG: Portland, OR Concert Review Type Thing

Okay, I'm very tired, and very sore.  Like last time, the setlist was
obtained, but this time my brother got it and he's now 110 miles away from
me because I had to drive 2 hours down south to Eugene (okay, maybe I
didn't _drive_, but I rode along nonetheless.)

Anyway, the show sounded very similar to the Seattle show, but very
entertaining nonetheless.  The only thing it lacked was flow... instead of
joining most songs like they did when they visited last November, they
talked between almost every one, which is cool but it also keeps flow at a
minimum.

They opened with "Rhythm Section Want Ad" and took a look back to some
old-school numbers... two encores... puppet heads... Brian Dewan (again
opening instead of Chainsaw Kittens - was muy impressed) joined the band on
accordian for some "Spy", featuring improv first by John F. (who wasn't
nearly as good as Maestro Linnell) and then finally John L. took over and
did it justice.

No "Ana Ng", no "WDTSS?", no "Snail Shell" or "Nyquil Driver" among the
staples that were missing.  No "Don't Let's Start", just like last time,
but I'm thinking they're getting tired of that one...

So what did they play?  In order of album, because I can't remember set
order...

Rhythm Section Want Ad
Number 3 (part of the John + John + tape set)
32 Footsteps (also John + John + tape)
Where Your Eyes Don't Go
We're The Replacements - slower tempo ("We're gonna play a song we haven't
played in a long time... actually, I don't even know if we've ever played
it before...")
Birdhouse In Your Soul
Istanbul
Particle Man
Twisting
Dig My Grave
Spider
The Guitar
She's Actual Size
Spy
No One Knows My Plan
Meet James Ensor - slower tempo
ALL of Factory Showroom except "Metal Detector", "Bells", and "Worst Enemy"
Older
They Got Lost
I'm Not Your Broom (!)

I may have forgot one or two... maybe...

Kerry

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Message-Id: <199703121331.IAA07444@ussodyssey.ufp.org>
Date: Wed, 12 Mar 1997 08:31:02 EST
From: "Brett Ballantini" <brett_ballantini@hewitt.e-mail.com>
Subject: TMBG: RE: (what's wrong with) CDNOW "GENRES"; defense of the B-52's

Sarah shared:
"The following are links to other artists in user defined genres.
WEIRD HUMOR MUSIC : Good tunes that make you laugh...
THEY MIGHT BE GIANTS, SPARKS, RUGBURNS, B-52'S, BIG AUDIO DYNAMITE, WEEN,
YANKOVIC, WEIRD AL, VIOLENT FEMMES, BECK, WEEZER."

Then Jonah added:
"Weird maybe. Humor? Huh? They can be funny at times, but I would never
ever call them humor music. And what's up with these other bands that
they categorize with TMBG? Violent Femmes, Beck, and Weezer are all
great bands(or people who play a whole bunch of instruments in the case
of beck), but only Weezer really is even comparable to TMBG. Weird Al is
the one band in this category I would call "humor music" though I've
never even heard of the Sparks or the Rugburns."

We had this brief debate on the list not long ago. It's not a conspiracy.
Labelling devices, or the music clubs' "If you like this, you'll like..."
aren't attempts to dis our favorite bands or give undue credit to crappy
ones. Record stores and clubs want to sell more music. They will lead
consumers down the familiar, easy path.

Why do you object to TMBG as weird humor music? Weird, as defined by an
industry that lauds Celine Dion, they certainly are. Not humorous? OK,
not laugh-out-loud funny, but their songs don't occasionally make you
smile? Their studio stunts--"Spy", covering the Freedom Rock slime track
"Jessica" with accordian as the lead instrument, recording with only a
drum machine as accompaniment? Yes, we see that the Giants are more than
just a humor band, and in fact hardly a humor band at all, but think of
your folks or your typical Celine Dion fan just reading the song titles,
much less listening to the music! It's so different, so cool, so free,
your first reaction is to smile.

Jonah made the mistake of continuing:
"And I've heard one Big Audio Dynamite song and two B-52s songs(god
they're awful) and I wouldn't call either one humor music either."

The above must be a comment borne of ignorance. I won't defend BAD, but
if you are a serious fan of music and appreciate the depth and growth
of They Might Be Giants and DON'T understand the debt they owe bands
like the B-52's, you need to be catching up on some back catalogs, not
posting broad statements like this. The fact that the B-52's went from
a "humor" band known for "novelty" songs to a major pop act after
_Cosmic Thing_ (a disc that also emphasized the more "serious" side of
the band) should serve as inspiration to us Giants fans who wish the
band would be taken out of the "novelty" or "weird humor music"
category. There's way more to the B-52's than the mediocre _Good Stuff_
and the familiar "Rock Lobster", and if you don't know that, you're
not looking.

Peace,
Brett

***Now playing: They Might Be Giants - _Mystery Concert_

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Date: Wed, 12 Mar 1997 09:58:58 -0500 (EST)
From: Katherine Johnson <katie@argo.net>
Subject: RE: TMBG: Boston?
Message-ID: <Pine.SV4.3.91.970312095825.1748A-100000@zeus>

Silly boy..not "all" of you.....just some of all of you. :P

Katie

On Tue, 11 Mar 1997, McClusky, Jesse wrote:

> >----------
> >From: 	Katherine Johnson[SMTP:katie@argo.net]
> >Sent: 	Tuesday, March 11, 1997 12:39 PM
> >To: 	Coyote
> >Cc: 	(*); 'tmbg-list@tmbg.org'
> >Subject: 	Re: TMBG: Boston?
> >
> >Im buying my tickets today!!! YAY!!! Its been almost 3 months since
> >their last Boston show....Im suffocating. See you all there :)
> >
> >Katie
>
> No you won't!  I won't be anywhere NEAR Boston!  (:
>
> Jesse
>
>

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Date: Wed, 12 Mar 1997 10:18:56 -0500 (EST)
From: Justin Higgins <jhiggins@CapAccess.org>
Subject: TMBG: Weep Day, Tambo and Urine Man
Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.91-FP.970312101515.10308B-100000@cap1.capaccess.org>

I am beginning to think that Weep Day is one of the best TMBG songs I
have ever heard, and I really hope they will consider recording it for
their next real album.  However, I have one question.  Who are Tambo and
Urine Man?

Personally, I think Weep Day sounds kind of like it is being sung by the
evil twin of "My Evil Twin", or possibly the good twin.  The songs seem
to deal with similar subjects "They say they saw me, but I wasn't there",
"Everyone man has two opinions, every woman has a second half" etc.  But
this must be either a really old song, or a really new one because of the
reference to the Oakland Raiders (who changed to the LA Ra

But the thing I can't figure out

Justin Higgins - Terraflopping

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From: mjames@envy.loyola.edu (Matthew James)
Message-Id: <9703121528.AA08494@envy.loyola.edu>
Subject: TMBG: Weep Day, Tambo and Urine Man
Date: Wed, 12 Mar 1997 10:28:15 -0500 (EST)

> Personally, I think Weep Day sounds kind of like it is being sung by the
> evil twin of "My Evil Twin", or possibly the good twin.  The songs seem
The Evil twin has another evil twin?  Wow, so they're not twins after
all but triplets?!?
> to deal with similar subjects "They say they saw me, but I wasn't there",
> "Everyone man has two opinions, every woman has a second half" etc.  But
> this must be either a really old song, or a really new one because of the
> reference to the Oakland Raiders (who changed to the LA Ra
It is an old song from the 80s, it's on Free When You Call From Work DAS
compilation.
>
> But the thing I can't figure out
....?  What can't you figure out?

--
upcoming concerts:
James-Royal Court Theater, Liverpool, England, 3/27
TMBG-Western MD College,Westminster, MD 4/18
"No room for big hearts like her in this city"-Carlito's Way
Member of the ARM since '96  (let's give 'em hell)
* -------------------------------------------------------------------
Matt James
polk@tmbg.org Matt.James.K.Polk@tmbg.org mjames@envy.loyola.edu
Loyola College, Baltimore, Maryland, United States of America
"Cracking toast, Gromit!"
New, Official Bruce Campbell Gazette page: http://www.bcgazette.com

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Message-ID: <c=US%a=_%p=Boeing%l=XCH-KNT-03-970312155735Z-6451@xch-hub-01.ca.boeing.com>
From: "McClusky, Jesse" <Jesse.McClusky@PSS.boeing.com>
Subject: RE: TMBG: cdnow "genres", not to be confused with Ellen Generes
Date: Wed, 12 Mar 1997 07:57:35 -0800

>----------
>From: 	mjames@greed.loyola.edu[SMTP:mjames@greed.loyola.edu]
>Sent: 	Tuesday, March 11, 1997 7:47 PM
>To: 	tmbg-list@tmbg.org
>Subject: 	Re: TMBG: cdnow "genres", not to be confused with Ellen Generes
>
>> > "The following are links to other artists in user defined genres.
>> > WEIRD HUMOR MUSIC : Good tunes that make you laugh...
>> > THEY MIGHT BE GIANTS, SPARKS, RUGBURNS, B-52'S, BIG AUDIO DYNAMITE, WEEN,
>> > YANKOVIC,
>> > WEIRD AL, VIOLENT FEMMES, BECK, WEEZER."

What I want to know is why the Presidents weren't listed.  (:
They're most definitely in the same category as Them.
So much so, they opened for Them on the John Henry tour
here in Seattle, and the crowd loved them.  (And yes, their
lyrics and even musical style is similar)

Jesse

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Message-ID: <c=US%a=_%p=Boeing%l=XCH-KNT-03-970312155242Z-6429@xch-hub-01.ca.boeing.com>
From: "McClusky, Jesse" <Jesse.McClusky@PSS.boeing.com>
Subject: RE: TMBG: Show last night!
Date: Wed, 12 Mar 1997 07:52:42 -0800

>----------
>From: 	NitpickR@aol.com[SMTP:NitpickR@aol.com]
>Sent: 	Tuesday, March 11, 1997 4:32 PM
>To: 	tmbg-list@tmbg.org
>Subject: 	TMBG: Show last night!
>
>Hello 41-
>
>That sounds like a really cool review. Did any of our friends in the Pacific
>Northwest decide to tape the show?  If so, email me privatly.  Spelling
>sucks.

*snicker*  If anyone did, it wasn't anyone in our little group....
Though, I wouldn't mind hearing it again...  (email me too!)

Jesse

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Message-ID: <c=US%a=_%p=Boeing%l=XCH-KNT-03-970312162012Z-6556@xch-hub-01.ca.boeing.com>
From: "McClusky, Jesse" <Jesse.McClusky@PSS.boeing.com>
Subject: RE: TMBG: Portland, OR Concert Review Type Thing
Date: Wed, 12 Mar 1997 08:20:12 -0800

>----------
>From: 	Kerry Biggs[SMTP:murmur@teleport.com]
>Sent: 	Wednesday, March 12, 1997 4:37 AM
>To: 	tmbg-digest@tmbg.org
>Subject: 	TMBG: Portland, OR Concert Review Type Thing
>
>
>32 Footsteps (also John + John + tape)
>Where Your Eyes Don't Go
>Birdhouse In Your Soul
>She's Actual Size
>No One Knows My Plan
>Meet James Ensor - slower tempo

They also played these at the Seattle show
And I think they didn't play "worst enemy" in Oregon because
they played it twice up here.  (:

Jesse

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Date: Wed, 12 Mar 1997 11:39:09 -0500 (EST)
From: Nathan Smith <nathasm@bgnet.bgsu.edu>
Subject: NON-TMBG: BFF sonicnet
Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.95.970312113244.24775A-100000@bgnet2.bgsu.edu>

  I email the sonicnet people and they said that they had the wrong URL.
So they told me to clear my cache and then try it again. I went there and
instead of it saying that it can't  handle the .ram file it said
    "your network bandwidth is not fast enough to recieve the data or that
     your CPU is not powerful enough to decode it."
I am on a T1 connetion and have a Pentium 166. Does anyone know what is
going on? Can I really never recieve it or is there a problem somewhere
that will be fixed eventually?
  ---===Nathan

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Message-Id: <199703121631.QAA27905@max>
From: "Nyaralathotep" <J.Vile@roehampton.ac.uk>
Organization: R'Leyh
Date: Wed, 12 Mar 1997 16:34:02 +0000
Subject: TMBG: CDnow 'generes'

linnellgirl@tmbg.org wrote:

>on the cd now page: this disturbs me, a little -- I could only imagine
>if J+J saw this:

>"The following are links to other artists in user defined genres.
>WEIRD HUMOR MUSIC : Good tunes that make you laugh... THEY MIGHT BE
>GIANTS, SPARKS, RUGBURNS, B-52'S, BIG AUDIO DYNAMITE, WEEN, YANKOVIC,
>WEIRD AL, VIOLENT FEMMES, BECK, WEEZER."

Yeah, OK perhaps they have a fucked up genere system, but I love the
B52s & Big Audio Dynamite, think weird al and Weezer are OK, Ween and
Beck I haven't really heard much of, but what I have is cool and, so,
go figure. So the genre title is a bit screwy but judging from what
they put down and what I like I guess the list is OK.

au revior
Jon

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Date: Wed, 12 Mar 1997 12:12:51 -0500 (EST)
From: Nathan Smith <nathasm@bgnet.bgsu.edu>
Subject: NON-TMBG: bff fixed
Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.95.970312121048.10089A-100000@bgnet2.bgsu.edu>

 It took a bit of work, but I got it to work. I had to uninstal the RA
player that I had AND delete all the old RA files. I had uninstalled it
but I didn't clear out all the old files. Now it works. The album sounds
good! (for those that care atleast)
  ---===Nathan

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Message-Id: <v03007802af4c898d1c11@[128.253.15.53]>
Date: Wed, 12 Mar 1997 11:30:23 -0500
From: Trippy <mja4@cornell.edu>
Subject: Re: TMBG: cdnow "genres"

god, how many time are we going to go over this stupid cdnow category
thing, we just had this same exact discussion not long ago, for a minute i
thought i was rereading old postings!

trippy

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Message-Id: <v03007803af4c8b678b64@[128.253.15.53]>
Date: Wed, 12 Mar 1997 11:35:39 -0500
From: Trippy <mja4@cornell.edu>
Subject: Re: NON-TMBG: ESPN

At 7:10 PM -0500 3/11/97, TmbgManiac@aol.com wrote:
>I was watching ESPN this morning and they made another TMBG reference.
>The reporter was talking about Barry Bonds of the S.F. Giants and he said
>"Who will be back up Barry in the Bay area, They Might Be Giants?" I recorded
>the show and I put the reference on a wav. file, its 117k and its on my web
>site at http://members.aol.com/tmbgmaniac/site.html

just a personal note, i think sportscenter is quite possibly the best show
on television

stuart scott is the bomb

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Date: Wed, 12 Mar 1997 09:29:47 -0800 (PST)
From: "'Lani' N Olson" <lanio@u.washington.edu>
Subject: RE: TMBG: Portland, OR Concert Review Type Thing
Message-ID: <Pine.A41.3.95b.970312092558.21966B-100000@dante16.u.washington.edu>

> >32 Footsteps (also John + John + tape)
> >Where Your Eyes Don't Go
> >Birdhouse In Your Soul
> >She's Actual Size
> >No One Knows My Plan
> >Meet James Ensor - slower tempo
>
> They also played these at the Seattle show
> And I think they didn't play "worst enemy" in Oregon because
> they played it twice up here.  (:

They didn't play all of these.  Er...did they?  My email's down for one
day and my brain gets totally screwed up.

 -Lani O:)
lanio@u.washington.edu
    _______________________________________________________________
  I can't carry a tune in a bucket, but I carry that bucket with pride
						-Junior Brown
    ---------------------------------------------------------------

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Date: Wed, 12 Mar 1997 10:21:18 -0800 (PST)
From: "'Lani' N Olson" <lanio@u.washington.edu>
Subject: Re: TMBG:  Seattle Concert Review
Message-ID: <Pine.A41.3.95b.970312093141.21966C-100000@dante16.u.washington.edu>

On Tue, 11 Mar 1997, McClusky, Jesse wrote:

> We wandered to the restaurant that shares a wall with
> the Showbox, and ate Chinese.  Snorting sweet-and-sour
> sauce is painful.  Not calming in the slightest bit.

And yet you still took the rest home with you... :)

> awhile there, me hiding my broom casually along the left side of
> my body, while people walked past us and into the doors, only to
> return after being kicked out.  (:

We got asked about five times if we were in charge of the door.  We
weren't really sure whether we should say yes or no.  "Of course we are!
We have the broom, don't we!?"  :)

> So anyway, they open the doors and we all go up to the front.
> Well, all 3 of us.  Everyone else seemed to fill up from the back
> to the front (WHAT???  When did this start happening???)  In fact,
> until about a half hour before the show, we were the ONLY ONES
> on the floor, standing up front in the center.  (:

We must have still had that fish smell about us so everyone kept away.
Next time, let's not meet in front of the fish section of Pike Place
Market, eh?  It was fine until they started hosing down the area.  Ugh.
:)

> So anyway, Brian started up about 5-10 minutes late.
> But he was good, so good in fact he sold us on him.
> I think Lani even went back to get an album of his after the show.
> I never knew that an electric zither or whatever he used could sound
> so much like 2 electric guitars.  *smirk*
> (He ended with Rumplestiltskin)

Yes, he was awesome!  It was such a great surprise that he was there,
'cause I've been wanting to hear his stuff.  It's kind of like those S&W
canned foods commercials where you think the next gift you open is just
going to be *another* toaster, but instead it is a glorious can of stewed
tomatoes and your life suddenly has a new and profound meaning and an
inspirational musical accompaniment.  Well, maybe not quite like that, but
still a great surprise.  ;)

I did run back in and buy the CD after I accidentally left without it.
There was this guy just standing off to the side that I didn't really
notice until he stepped in front of me and I almost slammed into him.
"OH, sorry, I just want to buy one of those CDs."  "Were you at the show
tonight?  Can I see your stamp?"  So I showed him the "I grew hemp" stamp
on my wrist and he reluctantly let me back in.

I have to admit I liked Brian's live performance much better than the CD,
but it's still really good.  I'm still going to buy the new one coming out
sometime this summer.  Yay!

> No, I don't remember the order of the set, or even all the songs that
> were in it.  But it was fun.  And I waved my broom around during "I
> am not your broom."  They kept looking at it kinda funny.

"Oh no, not ANOTHER broom," They thought.  :)

> Oh, and ladies, I'm sorry.  I'm here to confirm that, without a doubt,
> John Linnell was wearing a wedding band and looking far happier than
> I've ever seen him.  He was almost bouncy all night.  Smiled alot.
> That type stuff.  Oh, and he gave Lani a weird look when she held up
> her sign during James K Polk.

Not that the sign had anything to do with his marriage!  Although I did
like the sign ideas we came up with at dinner:  "How could you leave me
like this, Linnell?"  That kind of thing.  Yeah, he would have *loved*
that.  :)

> They did their two planned encores.  They put the "John and John
> with the drum machine and tape" in the middle of their set instead of
> at the beginning or end.

They told someone offstage "Be ready to hit the stop button.  This may
crash right from the top."  Linnell: "What key is this in?"  Flans: "I
think it's in C now."  Linnell plays a chord.  Both nod with slightly
relieved grins.

> Oh yeah, and they were pushing their
> Portland show saying that we should all go so they could prove they
> don't do the same show every night.  Flansburgh was saying they
> that they weren't sell-outs, I shouted, "sure you are!" while smiling,
> they kinda stopped and snorted, he shook his head, and went on.  (:

And we all tried to back away and look like we didn't know the guy with
the broom...   :)

The concert was great!  I haven't been in the very front before, so that
was pretty exciting in itself.  Yesterday I thought I might just drop
everything and head down to Portland.  They did invite us after all.  If
only it weren't a school night!  Sounds like it was a good show, too.

I was hoping They'd play some more older stuff (it's getting older all the
time), and some more unusual stuff like Weep Day, but that's OK.  They did
sing Broom and shoot off the canon, so I can't complain!  Ah.  So They're
in Palo Alto tomorrow night? Hmmm... I don't *have* to stick around to
take that final tomorrow.... I thought I'd gotten my They fix for a while,
but I guess I was wrong!  Maybe I ought to get ahold of some of that sweet
& sour sauce.  :)

*sigh* Back to work.

 -Lani O:)
lanio@u.washington.edu
    _______________________________________________________________
  I can't carry a tune in a bucket, but I carry that bucket with pride
						-Junior Brown
    ---------------------------------------------------------------

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Date: Wed, 12 Mar 1997 13:40:04 -0500 (EST)
From: Adam Tyner <ctyner@cs.clemson.edu>
Subject: TMBG: Uncle Mingo/The Guitar
Message-Id: <Pine.GSO.3.95.970312133901.15487A-100000@oak>

Has anyone here heard of a band called Uncle Mingo?

Everytime I play 'The Guitar', a friend of mine says that it's exactly
like an UM song...

Just wondering what y'all thought,

-Adam Tyner

/----=========================================----\
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Message-ID: <3326FF39.61B@scnc.waverly.k12.mi.us>
Date: Wed, 12 Mar 1997 14:08:41 -0500
From: Elitza Nicolaou <enicolao@scnc.waverly.k12.mi.us>
Organization: Waverly High School
Subject: TMBG: Sorry, guys...

Hey/hay,
For some reason my shirt order CC'd to the list! i don't know why, but
Evan might want to check that mail link, or something, because I know
that shouldn't have gone here. Ignore and delete, please. (My high tops
were in control- they are hemp and GODDESS.)
Love, The Spork Princess (Elitza)

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Date: Wed, 12 Mar 1997 10:58:28 -0800 (PST)
From: Liam Singer <singe_li@catseq.catlin.edu>
Subject: TMBG: Portland Concert
Message-Id: <Pine.3.07.9703121028.A15993-a100000@catseq.catlin.edu>

Well, I was at the Portland concert, and I got a setlist.  What they
played (in order) was:

RHYTHYM SECTION WANT AD
HOW CAN I SING LIKE A GIRL?
SPIDER
SEXXY
OLDER
MEET JAMES ENSOR (with the confetti cannon!!!)
WHERE YOUR EYES DON'T GO
JAMES K. POLK
PET NAME
SPIRALING SHAPE
SPY (They brought Brian Dewan out, and he played accordian during the improv)
THEY GOT LOST
#3
32 FOOTSTEPS
XTC vs. ADAM ANT
EXQUISITE DEAD GUY
ACTUAL SIZE
NO ONE KNOWS MY PLAN
THE GUITAR
I CAN HEAR YOU
PARTICLE MAN
NEW YORK CITY
TWISTIN
'TILL MY HEAD FALLS OFF
I AM NOT YOUR BROOM!!!
BIRDHOUSE
DIG MY GRAVE
THE REPLACEMENTS
ISTANBUL

twas an excelent show, with a nice mix of old and new.  Oh yeah, and my
friend with binoculars says she saw a wedding band on Linell, so I guess
that answers THAT question.

Liam

ps. anyone know if there are any copies of the show?

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From: KdsInThHal@aol.com
Date: Wed, 12 Mar 1997 14:29:29 -0500 (EST)
Message-ID: <970312142928_-936464340@emout01.mail.aol.com>
Subject: TMBG: Com. Central, House of Style song, mp3, Boat, Thing, Then

Aah! So I'm in the other room, but I have the tv on Comedy Central (Kids In
The Hall had just ended). I hear a commercial for some CC special - and then
they say the name - Get this --- the name of the special is entitled: "They
Might Be Irish." Is that CRAZY or what? They're doing this just to bother us
I'm sure.

>featuring all Irish comedy or something was called "They
>Might Be Irish"
Ooooooooh Jordan! You li'l bastard! ;D

>Anyone know who sings that song that they played on the end
>of House of Style the other day??? Goes something like:
>
> "Leave me
>  Right here
> Cus I don't wanna go"
It's Veruca Salt's new one... I don't remember the title, but I heard it's
"the sequel song to 'Seether'." And to answer the rest of you - *why* was I
watching MTV? ...I have, no clue..

>Oh, and I've recently discovered mp3's

Help the naive girl.... What's an "mp3"? :}

>> E-A-D  E-Db  E-B-B
>>
>> E-A-D  E-Db
>
>You sure about that?  I just played that and the intervals
>don't sound
Yeah, I tried them too, and got nothing of the sort.. :\

>>..Will it be Blue? :)
>
>It will definately be an album.
Well I hope the cd sleeve binding whatever is NOT black, orange, or yellow.
Gawd... My TMBG section looks like a freeking halloween decoration. :P (save
for TMBG, FS, and SEXXY.)
Btw - Anyone else rearrange their music collection to make room for THEN? :)
I diiid.....

the girl who's desperately trying to win Fruvous tickets from the radio, wish
me luck,
sarah! :)
linnellgirl@tmbg.org
http://members.aol.com/kdsinthhal/site.html
mstie #77216 ~ tmbger #45127

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Date: Wed, 12 Mar 1997 11:43:20 -0800 (PST)
From: Alex <alex@europa.com>
Subject: TMBG: Portland Oregon Concert
Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.95.970312113939.16592A-100000@thetics.europa.com>

I tell you.  I've seen TMBG four times, and last night was far and away
the best show I've ever seen.  The setlist has been posted, so I won't
bother with that formality.

John Linnell was the most animated I've ever seen him.  Getting married
must have shot him full o' the dickens or something!  He actually talked
to the audience as much as Flans!  I thought it'd be a cold day in hell
before I saw that happen.  It was so great hearing older songs that
everyone figured were permanently in the "tour vault."  I had more fun
last night than I've ever had at a concert, of anyone's.  Yes, it topped
the last BNL show I saw. It really was that good. :)

Brian Dewan was really interesting.  he impressed the hell out of all of
us. :)

               | alex@europa.com  http://www.europa.com/~alex |
     |BarenakedLadies DannyElfman PetShopBoys Erasure 10,000Maniacs TMBG|

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Message-ID: <c=US%a=_%p=Boeing%l=XCH-KNT-03-970312200123Z-7507@xch-hub-01.ca.boeing.com>
From: "McClusky, Jesse" <Jesse.McClusky@PSS.boeing.com>
Subject: RE: RE: TMBG: nixon, bootleg vid2, bootlegs, honeymoon, sexxy, replacements
Date: Wed, 12 Mar 1997 12:01:23 -0800

>----------
>From: 	KdsInThHal@aol.com[SMTP:KdsInThHal@aol.com]
>Sent: 	Wednesday, March 12, 1997 9:49 AM
>To: 	McClusky, Jesse
>Subject: 	Re: RE: TMBG: nixon, bootleg vid2, bootlegs, honeymoon, sexxy,
>replacements
>
>>Oh, yeah.  I'm pretty sure they played Destination Moon last night too.
>
>???? What?
>
>sarah

Sorry, I meant Monday night in Seattle

Jesse

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Message-ID: <c=US%a=_%p=Boeing%l=XCH-KNT-03-970312200345Z-7515@xch-hub-01.ca.boeing.com>
From: "McClusky, Jesse" <Jesse.McClusky@PSS.boeing.com>
Subject: RE: TMBG: Portland, OR Concert Review Type Thing
Date: Wed, 12 Mar 1997 12:03:45 -0800

>----------
>From: 	'Lani' N Olson[SMTP:lanio@u.washington.edu]
>Sent: 	Wednesday, March 12, 1997 9:29 AM
>To: 	McClusky, Jesse
>Cc: 	'tmbg-digest@tmbg.org'
>Subject: 	RE: TMBG: Portland, OR Concert Review Type Thing
>
>
>> >32 Footsteps (also John + John + tape)
>> >Where Your Eyes Don't Go
>> >Birdhouse In Your Soul
>> >She's Actual Size
>> >No One Knows My Plan
>> >Meet James Ensor - slower tempo
>>
>> They also played these at the Seattle show
>> And I think they didn't play "worst enemy" in Oregon because
>> they played it twice up here.  (:
>
>They didn't play all of these.  Er...did they?  My email's down for one
>day and my brain gets totally screwed up.
>
> -Lani O:)
>lanio@u.washington.edu

The only ones I'm not 100% sure of are Where your eyes don't go
and Meet James Ensor...  But I'm more than 50% sure they did.

Anyone have a recording and/or set list (come on, I SAW the set lists
going....  Lani was too shy to ask for one...  hehehehe)  (:

Jesse

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Message-ID: <c=US%a=_%p=Boeing%l=XCH-KNT-03-970312201822Z-7548@xch-hub-01.ca.boeing.com>
From: "McClusky, Jesse" <Jesse.McClusky@PSS.boeing.com>
Subject: RE: TMBG:  Seattle Concert Review
Date: Wed, 12 Mar 1997 12:18:22 -0800

>----------
>From: 	'Lani' N Olson[SMTP:lanio@u.washington.edu]
>Sent: 	Wednesday, March 12, 1997 10:21 AM
>To: 	'TMBG Mailing List'
>Cc: 	McClusky, Jesse
>Subject: 	Re: TMBG:  Seattle Concert Review
>
>On Tue, 11 Mar 1997, McClusky, Jesse wrote:
>
>> We wandered to the restaurant that shares a wall with
>> the Showbox, and ate Chinese.  Snorting sweet-and-sour
>> sauce is painful.  Not calming in the slightest bit.
>
>And yet you still took the rest home with you... :)

True...  It was very good the next day for lunch.  Snort-free.

>We must have still had that fish smell about us so everyone kept away.
>Next time, let's not meet in front of the fish section of Pike Place
>Market, eh?  It was fine until they started hosing down the area.  Ugh.
>:)

*snicker*  Aw, but we all needed a shower anyway, right?  Well, at least
AFTER the show we did.  The drug-smoke haze was so bad Flansburgh
commented on it casually when they FIRST GOT ON STAGE.  Said
something like, "You know, usually they pass the *forgot what he called
it, something like under-the-couch-joints* around the middle of the
show.
You guys started really early."   But then, later on, they DID say we
were
one of the  nicest crowds they've played.  (:

But the fish-scented shower was nice...  *snicker*

>> So anyway, Brian started up about 5-10 minutes late.
>> But he was good, so good in fact he sold us on him.
>> I think Lani even went back to get an album of his after the show.
>> I never knew that an electric zither or whatever he used could sound
>> so much like 2 electric guitars.  *smirk*
>> (He ended with Rumplestiltskin)
>
>Yes, he was awesome!  It was such a great surprise that he was there,
>'cause I've been wanting to hear his stuff.  It's kind of like those S&W
>canned foods commercials where you think the next gift you open is just
>going to be *another* toaster, but instead it is a glorious can of stewed
>tomatoes and your life suddenly has a new and profound meaning and an
>inspirational musical accompaniment.  Well, maybe not quite like that, but
>still a great surprise.  ;)

*laugh*   Don't worry, I won't tell your friend.  And I don't think
Michelle
will either.  (:  (inside joke, sorry)

>I did run back in and buy the CD after I accidentally left without it.
>There was this guy just standing off to the side that I didn't really
>notice until he stepped in front of me and I almost slammed into him.
>"OH, sorry, I just want to buy one of those CDs."  "Were you at the show
>tonight?  Can I see your stamp?"  So I showed him the "I grew hemp" stamp
>on my wrist and he reluctantly let me back in.

Kool!   I'll have to borrow it from you sometime.  (:

>I have to admit I liked Brian's live performance much better than the CD,
>but it's still really good.  I'm still going to buy the new one coming out
>sometime this summer.  Yay!

*noggle*  Anyone know if he's in regular stores (like the Warehouse or
Fred Meyer Music Mart or Tower)?  Or do ya hafta order it mail-order?

>> No, I don't remember the order of the set, or even all the songs that
>> were in it.  But it was fun.  And I waved my broom around during "I
>> am not your broom."  They kept looking at it kinda funny.
>
>"Oh no, not ANOTHER broom," They thought.  :)

Doubt it.  I don't recall any mention of brooms at their earlier
concerts,
and certainly no one else had one Monday night.  In fact, from the set
lists posted, they've only been using that sketch for a month or two at
their concerts, so they were probably really surprised I knew about it.

>> Oh, and ladies, I'm sorry.  I'm here to confirm that, without a doubt,
>> John Linnell was wearing a wedding band and looking far happier than
>> I've ever seen him.  He was almost bouncy all night.  Smiled alot.
>> That type stuff.  Oh, and he gave Lani a weird look when she held up
>> her sign during James K Polk.
>
>Not that the sign had anything to do with his marriage!  Although I did
>like the sign ideas we came up with at dinner:  "How could you leave me
>like this, Linnell?"  That kind of thing.  Yeah, he would have *loved*
>that.  :)

*snicker*  Oh, I'm SURE he would've....  (:

But no, her sign had nothing to do with his marriage, so you can
stop plotting against her.  (:   That sentence just sorta snuck past
the paragraph end and into the previous one.

>> They did their two planned encores.  They put the "John and John
>> with the drum machine and tape" in the middle of their set instead of
>> at the beginning or end.
>
>They told someone offstage "Be ready to hit the stop button.  This may
>crash right from the top."  Linnell: "What key is this in?"  Flans: "I
>think it's in C now."  Linnell plays a chord.  Both nod with slightly
>relieved grins.

*snicker*  Yeah, that was pretty funny.  Probably not for them, though.

>> Oh yeah, and they were pushing their
>> Portland show saying that we should all go so they could prove they
>> don't do the same show every night.  Flansburgh was saying they
>> that they weren't sell-outs, I shouted, "sure you are!" while smiling,
>> they kinda stopped and snorted, he shook his head, and went on.  (:
>
>And we all tried to back away and look like we didn't know the guy with
>the broom...   :)
>
>The concert was great!  I haven't been in the very front before, so that
>was pretty exciting in itself.  Yesterday I thought I might just drop
>everything and head down to Portland.  They did invite us after all.  If
>only it weren't a school night!  Sounds like it was a good show, too.

Yeah, there was no way I could have made it.  I get off work at 4pm and
get
up at 6am.  And it's about a 4 hour drive each way for me.

>I was hoping They'd play some more older stuff (it's getting older all the
>time), and some more unusual stuff like Weep Day, but that's OK.  They did
>sing Broom and shoot off the canon, so I can't complain!  Ah.  So They're
>in Palo Alto tomorrow night? Hmmm... I don't *have* to stick around to
>take that final tomorrow.... I thought I'd gotten my They fix for a while,
>but I guess I was wrong!  Maybe I ought to get ahold of some of that sweet
>& sour sauce.  :)

*snicker*  I still have my broom in my car, complete with the
little tissue squares They shot decorating it.  And complete
with it's little sprout.  (:

>*sigh* Back to work.

Actually, it's off to lunch for me.

> -Lani O:)
>lanio@u.washington.edu

Jesse

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Date: Wed, 12 Mar 1997 14:29:27 -0600 (CST)
From: Bill Tatalovich <wt3@cec.wustl.edu>
Subject: Re: TMBG: Veruca Salt
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.95.970312142642.13409A-100000@ritz.cec.wustl.edu>

> >Anyone know who sings that song that they played on the end
> >of House of Style the other day??? Goes something like:
> >
> > "Leave me
> >  Right here
> > Cus I don't wanna go"
> It's Veruca Salt's new one... I don't remember the title, but I heard it's
> "the sequel song to 'Seether'." And to answer the rest of you - *why* was I
> watching MTV? ...I have, no clue..

Well, thanks to an entire week with nothing to do, I watched enough MTV
for all of us.  The name of the song is "Volcano Girls", and the video
features the band bungee jumping around and playing their instruments.
Kind of like a cross between "Living on a Prayer" (Bon Jovi..duh) and
"Wish" (Nine Inch Nails).  I'm talking about the video, not the song.

Good thing about watching MTV all last week.  Saw the video for "Battle of
Who Could Care Less" (Ben Folds Five...double duh) about five times.  I
love it.  Anyway, see ya.

Bill tAtalovich
wt3@cec.wustl.edu

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Message-Id: <1.5.4.32.19970312205416.00673214@hubcap.clemson.edu>
Date: Wed, 12 Mar 1997 15:54:16 -0500
From: Adam Tyner <ctyner@awod.com>
Subject: TMBG: MP3

At 02:29 PM 3/12/97 -0500, you wrote:
>Help the naive girl.... What's an "mp3"? :}

It's a type of MPEG audio file.  Although I've never listened to any myself,
I hear they're really high quality and the file sizes aren't too large.

TTYL,

-Adam
/----=========================================----\
     http://www.awod.com/gallery/rwav/ctyner/
The home of He-Man, "Weird Al", Yoo-Hoo, and more!
ctyner@awod.com           O-         MiSTie #67,326

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From: Brooksie2@aol.com
Date: Wed, 12 Mar 1997 16:19:59 -0500 (EST)
Message-ID: <970312161940_1451416239@emout04.mail.aol.com>
Subject: Re: TMBG: Weep Day, Tambo and Urine Man

From the Then CD booklet:

"The germ for Weep Day was the hyphenated reference to a song on the back of
a Bob Dylan record jacket which read 'Mr Tambo-
urine Man.'  Flansburgh drew disturbing likenesses of both Mr. Tambo and
Urine Man and Linnell dreamed up their antithetical relationship and set it
to music."

Love,
Brooks

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Date: Wed, 12 Mar 1997 17:53:57 -0500 (EST)
From: Queen Sneepy <smelliot@indiana.edu>
Subject: Re: TMBG: DAS online and TBAR
Message-ID: <Pine.HPP.3.91.970312175109.23337D-100000@falstaff.ucs.indiana.edu>

On Mon, 10 Mar 1997, Ryan Staib wrote:

> singing the same notes as the bells. They replaced the synth with a more real
> bell sound, and they also added a singer. Maybe you've never listened to it
> with a good stereo and headphones? I like the synth, but I don't like the
> guitar. I think the bass and drums are better on CD, as well as that "They
> hear the sound" part.
>
Well...maybe or maybe not, but what I hear is the woman singing and
personally that just ruins the song for me.  This may sound hokey, but
when I first heard the DAS version of TBAR, I thought, "Wow, what a great
song!  Those bells sound so real!" And of course they don't, but that
song totally mesmerized me, and I called again like five more tiems to
hear it.  Though I like the version on the CD, the singer just doesn't
have it compared to the synth bells- I think they sound more realistic,
and so they totally add to the song.  To me, the singer is just saying,
"bong bong" and that doesn't make me think of bells, really...

   _______> Stefanie Elliott <____> smelliot@falstaff.ucs.indiana.edu <_____
 //									    \\
//       "Yeah, 'snarky'- from the ancient Greek meaning 'butthead'"         \\
			   -Mikey Kellerman, "Homicide"

 TMBG + Conan O'Brien + MiSTie #14672 + Medievalist + Star Wars + DNRC = Fun!

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Date: Wed, 12 Mar 1997 18:17:36 -0500 (EST)
From: Queen Sneepy <smelliot@indiana.edu>
Subject: Re: TMBG: Dial a Song
Message-ID: <Pine.HPP.3.91.970312181454.23337H-100000@falstaff.ucs.indiana.edu>

On Mon, 10 Mar 1997, I have no Name wrote:

> okay.... i just got through to dial-a-song for the first time in my life
> (it's always been busy) and i have a couple of questions..... is it
> always the same as what's on the website?  cuz if  it is i really don't
> need to be making these long distance calls.

Well...yes and no.  I mean, I have PODAs and I still call...the thrill of
getting through almost overshadows the cost...well, almost.  But they
have added to some of the songs (has anyone heard the new version of
"Mainstream USA"? With the tacked on verse?  Its like Linnell is speaking
to me on the phone (in real life, der!) it's great, its so clear. Yet odd
because you aren't expecting it...) and they have different songs on the
phone, a new song every hour, instead of every week.  So I guess its up
to you and your bank account (mine's just got catfood, I dont' care!)

   _______> Stefanie Elliott <____> smelliot@falstaff.ucs.indiana.edu <_____
 //									    \\
//       "Yeah, 'snarky'- from the ancient Greek meaning 'butthead'"         \\
			   -Mikey Kellerman, "Homicide"

 TMBG + Conan O'Brien + MiSTie #14672 + Medievalist + Star Wars + DNRC = Fun!

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Date: Wed, 12 Mar 1997 18:20:34 -0500 (EST)
From: Queen Sneepy <smelliot@indiana.edu>
Subject: Re: TMBG: Linnell the Highlander?
Message-ID: <Pine.HPP.3.91.970312181750.23337I-100000@falstaff.ucs.indiana.edu>

On Mon, 10 Mar 1997, Nicole the Wonder Nerd wrote:

> I betcha anything he's an Immortal.  Notice how recent pictures of him look
> very much like older pictures of him.  :)
>
Ohmigod, I think you're right.  If so, he definitely is multi-talented-
an accomplished artist, a craftsman, a musician that can play just about
every instrument (he's had a _long_ time to learn, I'll bet!)  That must
be why he stays out of the way and doesn't get so involved in the fans
like Flansy does- he's afraid he'll meet another Immortal!  Cause there
can be only one, ya know...I wonder where he keeps his sword.  I like to
think he uses a broad sword much in the style of chivalry!  Go Linnell!

   _______> Stefanie Elliott <____> smelliot@falstaff.ucs.indiana.edu <_____
 //									    \\
//       "Yeah, 'snarky'- from the ancient Greek meaning 'butthead'"         \\
			   -Mikey Kellerman, "Homicide"

 TMBG + Conan O'Brien + MiSTie #14672 + Medievalist + Star Wars + DNRC = Fun!

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Date: Wed, 12 Mar 1997 15:26:17 -0800 (PST)
From: "'Lani' N Olson" <lanio@u.washington.edu>
Subject: RE: TMBG: Portland, OR Concert Review Type Thing
Message-ID: <Pine.A41.3.95b.970312152447.67240A-100000@dante22.u.washington.edu>

On Wed, 12 Mar 1997, McClusky, Jesse wrote:

> Anyone have a recording and/or set list (come on, I SAW the set lists
> going....  Lani was too shy to ask for one...  hehehehe)  (:

Oh shutup.  You didn't ask for one either.  :)  Of course, I don't think
you planned to.  :}

 -Lani O:)
lanio@u.washington.edu
    _______________________________________________________________
  I can't carry a tune in a bucket, but I carry that bucket with pride
						-Junior Brown
    ---------------------------------------------------------------

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Message-ID: <c=US%a=_%p=Boeing%l=XCH-KNT-03-970312232924Z-547@xch-hub-01.ca.boeing.com>
From: "McClusky, Jesse" <Jesse.McClusky@PSS.boeing.com>
Subject: RE: TMBG: Portland Oregon Concert
Date: Wed, 12 Mar 1997 15:29:24 -0800

>----------
>From: 	Alex[SMTP:alex@europa.com]
>Sent: 	Wednesday, March 12, 1997 11:43 AM
>To: 	tmbg-list@tmbg.org
>Subject: 	TMBG: Portland Oregon Concert
>
>I tell you.  I've seen TMBG four times, and last night was far and away
>the best show I've ever seen.  The setlist has been posted, so I won't
>bother with that formality.
>
>John Linnell was the most animated I've ever seen him.  Getting married
>must have shot him full o' the dickens or something!  He actually talked
>to the audience as much as Flans!  I thought it'd be a cold day in hell
>before I saw that happen.  It was so great hearing older songs that
>everyone figured were permanently in the "tour vault."  I had more fun
>last night than I've ever had at a concert, of anyone's.  Yes, it topped
>the last BNL show I saw. It really was that good. :)

I told ya!!!  He's a new man!  He even smiled most of the show, didn't
he?  (:

>Brian Dewan was really interesting.  he impressed the hell out of all of
>us. :)

Likewise.  Where did he come from?  What's his association with Them?
Anyone know?

Jesse

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Message-ID: <c=US%a=_%p=Boeing%l=XCH-KNT-03-970312233116Z-552@xch-hub-01.ca.boeing.com>
From: "McClusky, Jesse" <Jesse.McClusky@PSS.boeing.com>
Subject: RE: TMBG: Portland, OR Concert Review Type Thing
Date: Wed, 12 Mar 1997 15:31:16 -0800

>----------
>From: 	'Lani' N Olson[SMTP:lanio@u.washington.edu]
>Sent: 	Wednesday, March 12, 1997 3:26 PM
>To: 	McClusky, Jesse
>Cc: 	'tmbg-digest@tmbg.org'
>Subject: 	RE: TMBG: Portland, OR Concert Review Type Thing
>
>On Wed, 12 Mar 1997, McClusky, Jesse wrote:
>
>> Anyone have a recording and/or set list (come on, I SAW the set lists
>> going....  Lani was too shy to ask for one...  hehehehe)  (:
>
>Oh shutup.  You didn't ask for one either.  :)  Of course, I don't think
>you planned to.  :}

Nope, I had no intention to.  Wasn't interested, really.
You seemed to be, but wouldn't go ask despite my urgings,
so as you saw they went before our eyes.  *poke*

Moral of the story, folks:  If you don't ask, you'll never get it.

> -Lani O:)
>lanio@u.washington.edu

Jesse

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Message-ID: <c=US%a=_%p=Boeing%l=XCH-KNT-03-970312233623Z-561@xch-hub-01.ca.boeing.com>
From: "McClusky, Jesse" <Jesse.McClusky@PSS.boeing.com>
Subject: RE: TMBG: Portland, OR Concert Review Type Thing
Date: Wed, 12 Mar 1997 15:36:23 -0800

>----------
>From: 	'Lani' N Olson[SMTP:lanio@u.washington.edu]
>Sent: 	Wednesday, March 12, 1997 3:26 PM
>To: 	McClusky, Jesse
>Cc: 	'tmbg-digest@tmbg.org'
>Subject: 	RE: TMBG: Portland, OR Concert Review Type Thing
>
>Oh shutup.  You didn't ask for one either.  :)  Of course, I don't think
>you planned to.  :}

Though, on the other hand....  I DID plan to hoist off my
broom onto the stage if John and John would have been
receptive, but 3 things stopped me:

  1)  They didn't seem inclined to take it.
  2)  They don't like things being thrown on-stage without their
permission.
  3)  3 big bouncers who would've thrown me out.   I don't like missing
out
     on shows I pay for, especially ones I REALLY want to see.  (:

Besides, a bunch of people came up to me after the show, asking about
why I'd brought the broom, the Then cd, why I'd brought the broom, this
mailing list, why I'd brought the broom, the TMBG web site, and um...
did I mention "why I'd brought the broom"?

Jesse, Cadavers, Cadavers, Everywhere Cadavers!

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Date: Wed, 12 Mar 1997 15:37:55 -0800 (PST)
From: "'Lani' N Olson" <lanio@u.washington.edu>
Subject: RE: TMBG: Portland, OR Concert Review Type Thing
Message-ID: <Pine.A41.3.95b.970312153432.67240C-100000@dante22.u.washington.edu>

On Wed, 12 Mar 1997, McClusky, Jesse wrote:

> Nope, I had no intention to.  Wasn't interested, really.
> You seemed to be, but wouldn't go ask despite my urgings,
> so as you saw they went before our eyes.  *poke*
>
> Moral of the story, folks:  If you don't ask, you'll never get it.

True, but I only actually saw (the last) one as it was being handed to
someone.  I was too busy picking up confetti.  Woohoo!

"Close your eyes.  The pellets are coming at your eyes.  You've been
warned."

 -Lani O:)
lanio@u.washington.edu
    _______________________________________________________________
  I can't carry a tune in a bucket, but I carry that bucket with pride
						-Junior Brown
    ---------------------------------------------------------------

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Date: Wed, 12 Mar 1997 18:56:13 -0500 (EST)
From: Queen Sneepy <smelliot@indiana.edu>
Subject: Re: TMBG: the OMLT goddess... dead at 16
Message-ID: <Pine.HPP.3.91.970312185247.23337L-100000@falstaff.ucs.indiana.edu>

On Mon, 10 Mar 1997, Kirsten Brodbeck wrote:

> >1) Front Design? Will it be Front and back, or just back? What about having
> >the "Freak Magnet" quote on the sleeve?
>
> 	Er, why not just have the "freak magnet" quote on the front?
>
Yeah!  Great idea!  It should be in a cool font, too! ("No! We want an
ugly font!  We want people to come up to us and say, 'Well, I was gonna
read yer shirt, but it was _too ugly!_'" Sorry...)

   _______> Stefanie Elliott <____> smelliot@falstaff.ucs.indiana.edu <_____
 //									    \\
//       "Yeah, 'snarky'- from the ancient Greek meaning 'butthead'"         \\
			   -Mikey Kellerman, "Homicide"

 TMBG + Conan O'Brien + MiSTie #14672 + Medievalist + Star Wars + DNRC = Fun!

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Message-ID: <c=US%a=_%p=Boeing%l=XCH-KNT-03-970313000302Z-628@xch-hub-01.ca.boeing.com>
From: "McClusky, Jesse" <Jesse.McClusky@PSS.boeing.com>
Subject: TMBG:  Seattle show
Date: Wed, 12 Mar 1997 16:03:02 -0800

I keep meaning to post this, but keep forgetting...

At the concert Monday night They told everyone to
form a conga line.  (Forgot which song they did it for).
They then told everyone that there was another band
playing RIGHT NOW in the Moore Theatre (where they
usually play in Seattle), and that band was forming
THEIR crowd right now into a conga line, and if we all
conga'd over there, we could trade crowds.  (:

Then they said to aim the conga line toward the back
of the floor, so when they got back to the front there'd
be plenty of room!  (:

No one conga'd.

Jesse

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Date: Wed, 12 Mar 1997 16:16:43 -0800 (PST)
From: Alex <alex@europa.com>
Subject: RE: TMBG: Portland Oregon Concert
Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.95.970312161326.15248B-100000@thetics.europa.com>

On Wed, 12 Mar 1997, McClusky, Jesse wrote:
>
> I told ya!!!  He's a new man!  He even smiled most of the show, didn't
> he?  (:

Yep!  It totally blew me away...

>
> >Brian Dewan was really interesting.  he impressed the hell out of all of
> >us. :)
>
> Likewise.  Where did he come from?  What's his association with Them?
> Anyone know?

All I know is that he's got a relationship with JF's Hello club-- Since
he's from brooklyn as well, I assume that he's also friends with John &
John, especially how they were acting with him on stage.

Further associations include the fact that all his package and shirt
design is done by J. Otto "Mr. Lunch" Seibold, who did a lot of Flood &
Pre-Flood artwork for the Johns.

-Alex

"We got a setlist!"

               | alex@europa.com  http://www.europa.com/~alex |
     |BarenakedLadies DannyElfman PetShopBoys Erasure 10,000Maniacs TMBG|

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From: Leo Bicknell <bicknell@ufp.org>
Message-Id: <199703130045.TAA06887@ussenterprise.ufp.org>
Subject: TMBG: Greek #3
Date: Wed, 12 Mar 1997 19:45:22 -0500 (EST)

	I finally got Greek #3 up in Real Audio form for those
of you who don't like WAV's.

--
Leo Bicknell - TMBG List Admin - tmbg-list-request@tmbg.org
         System Administrator / Network Technician
  bicknell@ufp.org - bicknell@vt.edu - bicknell@tmbg.org

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Date: Wed, 12 Mar 97 19:47:52 EST
From: "Anne E. Heidemann" <343SXVT@CMUVM.CSV.CMICH.EDU>
Organization: Central Michigan University
Subject: TMBG: CALVIN show
Message-Id: <970312.194923.EST.343SXVT@CMUVM.CSV.CMICH.EDU>

hi all!
if there is anyone in the mt. pleasant area who wants to go to this show,
please, please, please email me!!!  i would rilly like to get a group
going if at all possible.
please email me!  come on, duu eet!
:)

peace,

anne

************************************************************
***   Anne Heidemann                                     ***
***   anne.e.heidemann@cmich.edu                         ***
***   343sxvt@cmuvm.csv.cmich.edu                        ***
***   http://www.cmich.edu/~343sxvt                      ***
***                                                      ***
***                                                      ***
*** "Let your mind go and your body will follow."        ***
***                               --L.A. Story           ***
************************************************************

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Date: Wed, 12 Mar 1997 19:59:17 -0500 (EST)
From: Elitza Nicolaou <enicolao@scnc.waverly.k12.mi.us>
Subject: RE: TMBG: Portland Oregon Concert
Message-ID: <Pine.BSF.3.95.970312195637.5079A-100000@scnc.waverly.k12.mi.us>

> >
> >John Linnell was the most animated I've ever seen him.  Getting married
> >must have shot him full o' the dickens or something!  He actually talked

Well.... I hate to even bring this up, but could it possibly be that he
got laid? I mean, yes marriage, yes all the rest, but would it be too much
of a shock to anybody if Linny married as a <gasp!> virgin? Damn straight
it shot him full of the dickens!

Again, sorry to even mention this thought. I expect it to start something.

Love you all,
	ELITZA  (The Spork Princess)

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Date: Wed, 12 Mar 1997 07:58:12 -0800
From: Han Solo Wanna-Be <bem99@uno.cc.geneseo.edu>
Subject: Re: TMBG:  Seattle show
Message-id: <3326D293.23E7@uno.cc.geneseo.edu>
Organization: Sun Star Traders

> I keep meaning to post this, but keep forgetting...
>
> At the concert Monday night They told everyone to
> form a conga line.  (Forgot which song they did it for).
> They then told everyone that there was another band
> playing RIGHT NOW in the Moore Theatre (where they
> usually play in Seattle), and that band was forming
> THEIR crowd right now into a conga line, and if we all
> conga'd over there, we could trade crowds.  (:
>
> Then they said to aim the conga line toward the back
> of the floor, so when they got back to the front there'd
> be plenty of room!  (:
>
> No one conga'd.
>
> Jesse

The song that They told everyone to conga to was probably "No One Knows
My Plan". 3 out of the 4 shows I've been to the song was played and They
told everyone to conga. And most people were receptive to it too. The
biggest line at the 3 show was probably about 75-95 people long at
Cortland, NY.

		Brian Mellem

PS- Does anyone know if They are coming to upstate NY at all, cuz I'd
love too see Them again. They were just at my school last October.
--
=> => => => => => => => => => => => => => => => => => => => => => => =>
=> Brian Mellem, wishing you a very They day!!
Visit my web site at http://onesun.cc.geneseo.edu/~bem99/
It isn't much yet. A Geocities page is coming soon too.
Egad a base tone denotes a bad age.-TMBG
"I'm your only friend. I'm not your only friend, but I'm a little
glowing
friend....."-TMBG
<= <= <= <= <= <= <= <= <= <= <= <= <= <= <= <= <= <= <= <= <= <= <= <=
<=

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Subject: TMBG: Review of the Complete FS Sessions
Message-ID: <19970312.161545.3335.1.garit@juno.com>
From: garit@juno.com (Larry Santiago)
Date: Wed, 12 Mar 1997 20:02:45 EST

Hi again,

Here is my review of the unreleased tracks on the Complete Factory
Showroom Sessions, almost all of which is favorable.  Remember, these are
all completed studio versions of the songs, not live.

On the Drag - Just the live version.  Hard, fast, and very catchy.

Counterfeit Faker - cute song.  Much softer than the live version, but
still distinctly bluegrass with that fiddle.

Certain People I Could Name - Why was this not on FS????  It's a perfect
song.  Linnell's lyrics come out wonderfully. Featuring Linnell on
piano-keyboard.

Reprehensible-  a wonderful track.  A mix of Jazz and harmony.  Wonder
where They got those back-up singers? Another "why wasn't this on FS?"

Older - yet another version of the song.  great tune.

They Got Lost - almost the same as the live version.  Linnell is singing
soft-spokenly.

Rat Patrol - They might be Aerosmith.  I swear, Flans sounds like a cross
between Steven Tyler and Axl Rose.  Too much Eric, too.  Cool fadeout,
though.  Sounds like a baby crying.

Thanx for reading,

Larry

My bootlegs - http://members.aol.com/garit1997

"Up until just recently, gambling was thought to be blasphemy.  Like
Wilson Phillips, evil stuff." - Moxy Fruvous
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Subject: TMBG: The Complete Factory Showroom Sessions
Message-ID: <19970312.161544.3335.0.garit@juno.com>
From: garit@juno.com (Larry Santiago)
Date: Wed, 12 Mar 1997 20:02:45 EST

Hello friends,

I just got a copy of the complete Factory Showroom sessions!  It's a
great find, especially since it includes completed versions of several
unreleased songs.  This tape has all 22 songs that were recorded last
year in the Factory Showroom recording sessions.  I'd be happy to trade
this tape for other stuff.  I'm particularly looking for 1997 shows,
especially good copies of the Irving Plaza shows from last month.

Here is the complete track list:

Metal Detector
New York City
Spiralling Shape
XTC vs. Adam Ant
Sensurround
Token Back to Brooklyn
On the Drag
James K. Polk
How Can I Sing Like a Girl?
Your Own Worst Enemy
Counterfeit Faker
Til My Head Falls Off
Pet Name
Certain People I Could Name
S-E-X-X-Y
The Bells are Ringing
Unforgotten
Exquisite Dead Guy
Reprehensible
Older
They Got Lost
Rat Patrol

A review of the Complete Factory Showroom Sessions will follow in another
message.

Thanks for reading,

Larry

Check out my bootleg list, lots of TMbG: http://members.aol.com/garit1997

"Up until just recently, gambling was thought to be blasphemy.  Like
Wilson Phillips, evil stuff." - Moxy Fruvous
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Message-ID: <33270245.4626@ix.netcom.com>
Date: Wed, 12 Mar 1997 19:21:41 +0000
From: "Richard E. Michalski" <rmichals@ix.netcom.com>
Subject: TMBG: She doesn't have to have her dB's records back

Greetings Giant-heads,

Did anybody out there ever see Chris Stamey open for the Giants??

I suggest any Giant fan to check out records by the dB's.  As Flans
stole them from her, so shall you get your hands on them.  First rate
power-pop, indeed.

Everybody have a Strawberry Kool-Aid day,

Peace in John and John,
Bill from St. Louis

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Date: Wed, 12 Mar 1997 19:37:11 -0600 (CST)
From: ILOVEMARTHASTEWART <woohoojb@falcon.cc.ukans.edu>
Subject: TMBG: TMBG-Conga*line
Message-Id: <Pine.OSF.3.95q.970312192855.23334A-100000@falcon.cc.ukans.edu>

all this talk about the recent show(s) featuring the famous conga*line
reminds me of this little known fact (or maybe it's well known and i'm not
as smart as i like to think...) : at the December 1994 concert in Kansas
City, the conga*line was retired due to THREE injuries that night. It was
a massive line, nearly everyone in the place, and it got pretty crazy as i
recall. Anyhow, as Flans was telling this story at the November 1996
concert (in KC) he said, "but now that we're back, let's give it another
shot -- everybody CONGA!" and They preceeded to play 'Twistin' and we
conga'd our hearts out. i'm glad to hear it's back in working order, and
on behalf of the kansas city tmbg'ers, i'd like to apologize for any
inconvenience we caused.

		jillian

ps...can anyone confirm that there wasn't a conga*line anytime between
Dec 94 and Nov 96?

- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
  * jillian buser * university of kansas * woohoojb@falcon.cc.ukans.edu *
		   http://falcon.cc.ukans.edu/~woohoojb
i met someone at the dog show * she was holding my left arm * but everyone
was  acting normal so i tried to look  nonchalant * we both  said i really
love you * the shriners loaned us cars * we raced up and down the sidewalk
                      twenty thousand million times
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From: CyburDog@aol.com
Date: Wed, 12 Mar 1997 20:42:03 -0500 (EST)
Message-ID: <970312203830_953006933@emout07.mail.aol.com>
Subject: Re: TMBG: The Complete Factory Showroom Sessions

In a message dated 97-03-12 20:28:22 EST, Garit wrote:

<< I just got a copy of the complete Factory Showroom sessions!  It's a
 great find, especially since it includes completed versions of several
 unreleased songs.  This tape has all 22 songs that were recorded last
 year in the Factory Showroom recording sessions.  I'd be happy to trade
 this tape for other stuff.  I'm particularly looking for 1997 shows,
 especially good copies of the Irving Plaza shows from last month. >>

Where did you get this? Was this released publicly?

P.S.  Today I was at a store that specializes in hard to find CDs.. I didn't
have any money so I didn't know exactly why I was there (LIVE IN NY!!!) I
mean they are supposed to have rare CDs (LIVE IN NY!!!) so what was I
expecting to find (LIVE IN NY!!!!)... anyway they didn't have exactly what I
was looking for (LIVE IN NY!!!) but they did have the SWAHD single with Mr.
Klaw.. For Science.. Uh.. others to.. I forget which exactly... it is on tape
but I'll buy it anyway!  They also had 2 Connells on vinyl. YAY!!! Once I buy
this other CD I am waiting for (THEN; THE EARLIER YEARS) I will buy ALL of
them!!! HA HA HA HA HA HA!!!!

P.P.S. for all who didn't notice... In my new .sig.... look for a different
fun thing to do on an elevator! 50 in all!! NEW THING EACH TIME!!!

/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\
/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\
<                                Miscellaneous Tim
                                        >
<                                       AKA
                                                    >
 <                                  TMB(do)G
                                               >
  <"I'm a picture that I'm holding of someone who is cool"- The Odds >
   <  "quod debeo tenere honorem meum Numquam ero vir clarus"   >
    <                   -Cbuczek@aol.com/TMBG
                                >
     <        "...we don't especially identify with the 'Rangers.           >
      <             Well,maybe the blue one."- John Linnell                >
       <               50 Fun Things to Do in an Elevator         >
    <38. Say "I wonder what all these do" and push the red buttons.>
         < "...and if it all turned out the way we knew it wouldn't"  >
          <                         -The Connells
                                >

\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/

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Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19970312200600.007c7100@mail.ee.net>
Date: Wed, 12 Mar 1997 20:06:00 -0500
From: Evan Chakroff <chakroff@ee.net>
Subject: TMBG: Brian Dewan...

...did the cover art for Lincoln

...did some Fingertips

-ec

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Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19970312211700.007da380@mail.ee.net>
Date: Wed, 12 Mar 1997 21:17:00 -0500
From: Evan Chakroff <chakroff@ee.net>
Subject: Re: TMBG: The Complete Factory Showroom Sessions

>Where did you get this? Was this released publicly?

Now think about this...

If they were released publicly then I would know what On The Drag sounds
like, cause I (along with everyone else on this list) would already have a
copy.

I won't be interested in trading for it, because all those unreleased songs
will (with any luck) be on "Thing"

However, what would be neat would be some studio outtakes a la Beatles
Anthology....
--
Evan Chakroff
The Internet Mystery Spot
http://spot.home.ml.org

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Date: Wed, 12 Mar 1997 18:21:24 -0800 (PST)
From: Alex <alex@europa.com>
Subject: TMBG: Re: Brian Dewan...
Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.95.970312181904.390A-100000@thetics.europa.com>

On Wed, 12 Mar 1997, Evan Chakroff wrote:

> ...did the cover art for Lincoln
>
> ...did some Fingertips

I didn't know he contributed to Fingertips.  Very interesting!  I'm
*really* impressed with him now. :)

One of the high points of the night was when They brought him out to help
out w/ Spy, and John Linnell gave him an accordian-- I read his lips, and
he asked Brian if he knew how to play it, and Brian kind of shrugged and
said it had been a while. So John put his fingers on the right key. ;)

It was totally cool.

               | alex@europa.com  http://www.europa.com/~alex |
     |BarenakedLadies DannyElfman PetShopBoys Erasure 10,000Maniacs TMBG|

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Date: Wed, 12 Mar 1997 18:29:55 -0800 (PST)
From: seKretlY caucASIAN <jkwhite@sdcc13.ucsd.edu>
Subject: RE: TMBG: Dewan
Message-ID: <Pine.BSI.3.91.970312181131.28754A-100000@sdcc13.ucsd.edu>

On Wed, 12 Mar 1997, McClusky, Jesse wrote:

a bunch of unrelated things, and then remarked:
> >Brian Dewan was really interesting.  he impressed the hell out of all of
> >us. :)
>
> Likewise.  Where did he come from?  What's his association with Them?
> Anyone know?
>
>
> Jesse
>

just randomly looking through Lincoln, he apparently did the "cover art,"
so could he bave been the one to construct that, um,
thing..with..men..and towers..and other objects that elude description?
though what further connections i have no idea, but it seems there's
something at www.bar-none.com/bios/brianbio.html

John, sasn
jkwhite@ucsd.edu
sdcc13.ucsd.edu~/jkwhite

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Message-Id: <2.2.32.19970313030246.0067d3a0@peseta.ucdavis.edu>
Date: Wed, 12 Mar 1997 19:02:46 -0800
From: Nicole the Wonder Nerd <ana.ng@tmbg.org>
Subject: TMBG: *sigh*

Chatting with a person from my math class today at dinner... I mention that
I'm going to a concert tomorrow.  She says, "Who?"  And I say, "They Might
Be Giants."  And she says, "You're KIDDING?!" in tones of delight at the
name and disgust that she hadn't heard of the concert earlier.  Much excited
at the prospect of discovering another True Fan, I excitedly start yammering
on about Their greatness.  And then she says something to the effect of
"Yeah, and that song Particle Man... they're SOOOOooo FUNNY!"
*sigh*

Well, at least she didn't use the q-word.

--nicole the wonder nerd
***
"Power corrupts.  Absolute power corrupts absolutely.  God is supposedly
all-powerful.  Draw your own conclusions." --Anonymous
Visit Nicolopolis! http://wwwcsif.cs.ucdavis.edu/~carlsonn
nmcarlson@ucdavis.edu carlsonn@ucdavis.edu ana.ng@tmbg.org nnicole@tmbg.org

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From: Kamesennin@aol.com
Date: Wed, 12 Mar 1997 22:14:27 -0500 (EST)
Message-ID: <970312221107_308653527@emout16.mail.aol.com>
Subject: TMBG: Factory Showroom Sessions (And More!)

Just feel like bragging:

He got his copy of that tape from none other than li'l old me!  Yay!  Check
out my page for three or four rare/unreleased TMBG songs!  This week's
(month's) are the studio-recorded version of "Certain People", the Live in NY
version of Why Does the Sun Shine? and also (just cuz I like it so much)
"Welcome to the Jungle."  These are all full songs, not clips, encoded in
RealAudio.  Check 'em out!  And trade TMBG stuff to Garit so that he gets
more TMBG stuff!  That's what I did to get all the stuff I have now! (Which
is just about everything They've ever done)  I bet you don't care about me,
though!  That's okay!  Neither do I!  Shut up, will you, Kame?  Okay!

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Date: Wed, 12 Mar 1997 22:35:53 -0500 (EST)
Message-Id: <199703130335.WAA03889@quasar.voicenet.com>
From: Jon Adler <ijadoc@voicenet.com>
Subject: Re: TMBG: Factory Showroom Sessions (And More!)

At 10:14 PM 3/12/97 -0500, you wrote:
>Just feel like bragging:
>
>He got his copy of that tape from none other than li'l old me!  Yay!  Check
>out my page for three or four rare/unreleased TMBG songs!  This week's
>(month's) are the studio-recorded version of "Certain People", the Live in NY
>version of Why Does the Sun Shine? and also (just cuz I like it so much)
>"Welcome to the Jungle."  These are all full songs, not clips, encoded in
>RealAudio.  Check 'em out!  And trade TMBG stuff to Garit so that he gets
>more TMBG stuff!  That's what I did to get all the stuff I have now! (Which
>is just about everything They've ever done)  I bet you don't care about me,
>though!  That's okay!  Neither do I!  Shut up, will you, Kame?  Okay!

I would love to visit your site. Before visiting, however, I would need the
URL...

>Well, at least she didn't use the q-word.

uhhhh... wha?

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From: wglodell@baraboo.com (Wyatt Glodell)
Subject: Re: TMBG: Factory Showroom Sessions (And More!)
Date: Wed, 12 Mar 1997 21:50:41 -0600
Message-ID: <19970313035040356.AAA298@ppp188.baraboo.com>

Ok, he forgoot to mention his homepage adress, which i found, quite easily
(it was obvious) anyway, find the unrelesed songs here:
        http://members.aol.com/~Kamesennin/tmbg.htm

have fun.

        i hope obody already posted this. If they did, i hant gottin it
within the last 30 seconds. bye

        -Wyatt

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Message-ID: <MAPI.Id.0016.006d7320202020203030303330303033@MAPI.to.RFC822>
From: "The One and Only" <mms@wolfenet.com>
Subject: Re: TMBG:  Seattle Concert Review
Date: Thu, 13 Mar 97 20:36:42 PST

| > So anyway, Brian started up about 5-10 minutes late.
| > But he was good, so good in fact he sold us on him.
| > I think Lani even went back to get an album of his after the show.
| > I never knew that an electric zither or whatever he used could sound
| > so much like 2 electric guitars.  *smirk*
| > (He ended with Rumplestiltskin)
|
| Yes, he was awesome!  It was such a great surprise that he was there,
| 'cause I've been wanting to hear his stuff.  It's kind of like those S&W
| canned foods commercials where you think the next gift you open is just
| going to be *another* toaster, but instead it is a glorious can of stewed
| tomatoes and your life suddenly has a new and profound meaning and an
| inspirational musical accompaniment.  Well, maybe not quite like that, but
| still a great surprise.  ;)

So, is the inspirational musical accompaniment something by TMBG, or is
this totally unrelated?  (searching around for Ryan's phone number...)  ;)
And do peas somehow play into this, or is it just the fact that any S&W
canned goods will do?

|
| I have to admit I liked Brian's live performance much better than the CD,
| but it's still really good.  I'm still going to buy the new one coming out
| sometime this summer.  Yay!
|
Brian told us to search and search and search and search until we found the
new CD... so I've begun searching now.  :)

| > They did their two planned encores.  They put the "John and John
| > with the drum machine and tape" in the middle of their set instead of
| > at the beginning or end.
|
| They told someone offstage "Be ready to hit the stop button.  This may
| crash right from the top."  Linnell: "What key is this in?"  Flans: "I
| think it's in C now."  Linnell plays a chord.  Both nod with slightly
| relieved grins.
|
And throughout that whole section Linnell kept leaning into the PA and
concentrating really hard, and they switched the PA on the left hand side
of the stage, so I think they were having a tough time hearing it to play
along.  Yet they still did beautifully.

Another entertaining moment I forgot:  at the beginning of one song (which
one I forget) Flansy just randomly spoke up "Hey, Mr. Spotlight Guy, I do
nothing for the first 45 seconds of this song, so just don't pay attention
to me"... he stood toward the back of the stage making funny faces.

Which leads me to a question:  I've seen TMBG twice live.  The first time I
saw them the stage set-up was:

Graham on Bass ............  Flansy.................. Linnell

This time the set-up was:

Flansy.................  Linnell..................  Graham.

Was it venue?  Tour?  Just a change of pace?
I think I like the first set-up better... but that's probably just because
then Flansburgh is at the center of it all, and he's my favorite.  :)

Whatever....
Michelle

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Message-ID: <MAPI.Id.0016.006d7320202020203030303330303033@MAPI.to.RFC822>
From: "The One and Only" <mms@wolfenet.com>
Subject: Re: TMBG:  Seattle Concert Review
Date: Thu, 13 Mar 97 20:58:20 PST

|
| >We must have still had that fish smell about us so everyone kept away.
| >Next time, let's not meet in front of the fish section of Pike Place
| >Market, eh?  It was fine until they started hosing down the area.  Ugh.
| >:)
|
| *snicker*  Aw, but we all needed a shower anyway, right?  Well, at least
| AFTER the show we did.  The drug-smoke haze was so bad Flansburgh
| commented on it casually when they FIRST GOT ON STAGE.  Said
| something like, "You know, usually they pass the *forgot what he called
| it, something like under-the-couch-joints* around the middle of the
| show.
| You guys started really early."   But then, later on, they DID say we
| were
| one of the  nicest crowds they've played.  (:

Actually, it was just a few songs into the set.

They also joked about how cheap it smelled, "like it was shipped in from
some foreign country?  What's with that?"  And after John made that comment
the smell dissappeared (or at least I didn't notice it anymore during the
show)

| >> So anyway, Brian started up about 5-10 minutes late.
| >> But he was good, so good in fact he sold us on him.
| >> I think Lani even went back to get an album of his after the show.
| >> I never knew that an electric zither or whatever he used could sound
| >> so much like 2 electric guitars.  *smirk*
| >> (He ended with Rumplestiltskin)
| >
| >Yes, he was awesome!  It was such a great surprise that he was there,
| >'cause I've been wanting to hear his stuff.  It's kind of like those S&W
| >canned foods commercials where you think the next gift you open is just
| >going to be *another* toaster, but instead it is a glorious can of stewed
| >tomatoes and your life suddenly has a new and profound meaning and an
| >inspirational musical accompaniment.  Well, maybe not quite like that,
but
| >still a great surprise.  ;)
|
| *laugh*   Don't worry, I won't tell your friend.  And I don't think
| Michelle
| will either.  (:  (inside joke, sorry)
|
| >I did run back in and buy the CD after I accidentally left without it.
| >There was this guy just standing off to the side that I didn't really
| >notice until he stepped in front of me and I almost slammed into him.
| >"OH, sorry, I just want to buy one of those CDs."  "Were you at the show
| >tonight?  Can I see your stamp?"  So I showed him the "I grew hemp" stamp
| >on my wrist and he reluctantly let me back in.
|
| Kool!   I'll have to borrow it from you sometime.  (:

ME TOO!  ME TOO!
|
| >I have to admit I liked Brian's live performance much better than the CD,
| >but it's still really good.  I'm still going to buy the new one coming
out
| >sometime this summer.  Yay!
|
| *noggle*  Anyone know if he's in regular stores (like the Warehouse or
| Fred Meyer Music Mart or Tower)?  Or do ya hafta order it mail-order?
|
Try Cellophane Square... they usually seem to have cool stuff.

So, are us Seattleites starting to annoy everyone with all our obnoxious
posts yet?  I highly recommend the pre-show bonding experience!

Michelle

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Message-ID: <MAPI.Id.0016.006d7320202020203030303330303033@MAPI.to.RFC822>
From: "The One and Only" <mms@wolfenet.com>
Subject: Re: TMBG: Portland, OR Concert Review Type Thing
Date: Thu, 13 Mar 97 21:00:29 PST

| >> >32 Footsteps (also John + John + tape)
| >> >Where Your Eyes Don't Go
| >> >Birdhouse In Your Soul
| >> >She's Actual Size
| >> >No One Knows My Plan
| >> >Meet James Ensor - slower tempo
| >>
| >> They also played these at the Seattle show
| >> And I think they didn't play "worst enemy" in Oregon because
| >> they played it twice up here.  (:
| >
| >They didn't play all of these.  Er...did they?  My email's down for one
| >day and my brain gets totally screwed up.
| >
| > -Lani O:)
| >lanio@u.washington.edu
|
| The only ones I'm not 100% sure of are Where your eyes don't go
| and Meet James Ensor...  But I'm more than 50% sure they did.
|
| Anyone have a recording and/or set list (come on, I SAW the set lists
| going....  Lani was too shy to ask for one...  hehehehe)  (:
|
| Jesse
|
Where your Eyes don't go I THINK they did, but I might just be making that
up... Meet James Ensor they didn't... unless I took a nap at some point in
the show, or really don't know the song.  Just ignore me... I'm rambling.

If anyone was recording the show they were being very shy about it... I
kept scanning the crowd thinking a couple of friends I hadn't heard from in
a long time might be present (fellow TMBG fans), and never saw any hints of
recording equipment.

Michelle

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Message-ID: <3327259E.2C20@ix.netcom.com>
Date: Wed, 12 Mar 1997 21:52:30 +0000
From: "Richard E. Michalski" <rmichals@ix.netcom.com>
Subject: TMBG: q

quirky

uh huh
Bill

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From: KdsInThHal@aol.com
Date: Wed, 12 Mar 1997 22:56:38 -0500 (EST)
Message-ID: <970312225541_1483284777@emout16.mail.aol.com>
Subject: TMBG: Inside Space.

Yay! TMBG on Sanders! :)

Okay, i was just wondering about this - remember at the HoB someone said Sci
Fi was there shooting Inside Space? Has it aired yet? Anyone have it on tape?

sarah

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Message-ID: <MAPI.Id.0016.006d7320202020203030303330303033@MAPI.to.RFC822>
From: "The One and Only" <mms@wolfenet.com>
Subject: Re: TMBG:  Seattle show
Date: Thu, 13 Mar 97 20:52:35 PST

I believe Brian is correct as to what song formed the Conga line... there
was, indeed, a conga line at the show, but it was a small one and it was
behind us.  (Sort of that whole theory we were explaining to Sascha, when
you're in the front 2 "rows" you're pretty much immune)  I especially like
the way John suggested people "leave your purse or wallet on the floor, and
when the song is over you'll be back where you began"

When they played Portland for John Henry they did the Conga Line, and the
bar was much more active than the regular crowd about doing the Conga
(Prob'ly because we were already in the back of the venue)... there was one
guy who was just SO EXCITED about the Conga line, and getting people
involved, I asked him if he was somehow related to the band and planted in
the crowd.  He said, "No, I just love to do the Conga!"  It was fun... (and
I ended up in a better spot then where I began.)

Michelle

----------
| > I keep meaning to post this, but keep forgetting...
| >
| > At the concert Monday night They told everyone to
| > form a conga line.  (Forgot which song they did it for).
| > They then told everyone that there was another band
| > playing RIGHT NOW in the Moore Theatre (where they
| > usually play in Seattle), and that band was forming
| > THEIR crowd right now into a conga line, and if we all
| > conga'd over there, we could trade crowds.  (:
| >
| > Then they said to aim the conga line toward the back
| > of the floor, so when they got back to the front there'd
| > be plenty of room!  (:
| >
| > No one conga'd.
| >
| > Jesse
|
| The song that They told everyone to conga to was probably "No One Knows
| My Plan". 3 out of the 4 shows I've been to the song was played and They
| told everyone to conga. And most people were receptive to it too. The
| biggest line at the 3 show was probably about 75-95 people long at
| Cortland, NY.
|
| 		Brian Mellem
|
| PS- Does anyone know if They are coming to upstate NY at all, cuz I'd
| love too see Them again. They were just at my school last October.
| --
| => => => => => => => => => => => => => => => => => => => => => => => =>
| => Brian Mellem, wishing you a very They day!!
| Visit my web site at http://onesun.cc.geneseo.edu/~bem99/
| It isn't much yet. A Geocities page is coming soon too.
| Egad a base tone denotes a bad age.-TMBG
| "I'm your only friend. I'm not your only friend, but I'm a little
| glowing
| friend....."-TMBG
| <= <= <= <= <= <= <= <= <= <= <= <= <= <= <= <= <= <= <= <= <= <= <= <=
| <=
|

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Date: Wed, 12 Mar 1997 20:06:41 -0800 (PST)
From: "'Lani' N Olson" <lanio@u.washington.edu>
Subject: RE: TMBG: Dewan
Message-ID: <Pine.A41.3.95b.970312200410.47750A-100000@dante33.u.washington.edu>

On Wed, 12 Mar 1997, seKretlY caucASIAN wrote:

> something at www.bar-none.com/bios/brianbio.html

Ooo!  I just checked this out and it says "Dewan also crafts unique
furniture in his shop and his elaborate pieces grace some of New York's
finest homes"  I want some Dewan furniture!  Someone buy me some Dewan
furniture!

 -Lani O:) (Obviously not recovered from the concert yet)
lanio@u.washington.edu
    _______________________________________________________________
  I can't carry a tune in a bucket, but I carry that bucket with pride
						-Junior Brown
    ---------------------------------------------------------------

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Date: Wed, 12 Mar 1997 20:11:13 -0800 (PST)
From: "'Lani' N Olson" <lanio@u.washington.edu>
Subject: Re: TMBG:  Seattle Concert Review
Message-ID: <Pine.A41.3.95b.970312200700.47750B-100000@dante33.u.washington.edu>

On Thu, 13 Mar 1997, The One and Only wrote:

> | Yes, he was awesome!  It was such a great surprise that he was there,
> | 'cause I've been wanting to hear his stuff.  It's kind of like those S&W
> | canned foods commercials where you think the next gift you open is just
> | going to be *another* toaster, but instead it is a glorious can of stewed
> | tomatoes and your life suddenly has a new and profound meaning and an
> | inspirational musical accompaniment.  Well, maybe not quite like that, but
> | still a great surprise.  ;)
>
> So, is the inspirational musical accompaniment something by TMBG, or is
> this totally unrelated?  (searching around for Ryan's phone number...)  ;)

No don't do it!  And unfortunately, though it should be TMBG, it is an
unrelated thing.  Not the song.  Just a thing unrelated.  :)

> And do peas somehow play into this, or is it just the fact that any S&W
> canned goods will do?

The peas were unrelated things, too.  Small, green unrelated things.

Are we carrying this inside joke thing too far?

 -Lani O:)
lanio@u.washington.edu
    _______________________________________________________________
  I can't carry a tune in a bucket, but I carry that bucket with pride
						-Junior Brown
    ---------------------------------------------------------------

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Date: Wed, 12 Mar 1997 20:22:56 -0800 (PST)
From: "'Lani' N Olson" <lanio@u.washington.edu>
Subject: Re: TMBG:  Seattle Concert Review
Message-ID: <Pine.A41.3.95b.970312202053.69784B-100000@dante01.u.washington.edu>

On Thu, 13 Mar 1997, The One and Only wrote:

> | >I did run back in and buy the CD after I accidentally left without it.
> | >There was this guy just standing off to the side that I didn't really
> | >notice until he stepped in front of me and I almost slammed into him.
> | >"OH, sorry, I just want to buy one of those CDs."  "Were you at the show
> | >tonight?  Can I see your stamp?"  So I showed him the "I grew hemp" stamp
> | >on my wrist and he reluctantly let me back in.
> |
> | Kool!   I'll have to borrow it from you sometime.  (:
>
> ME TOO!  ME TOO!

The CD or the hemp?

> So, are us Seattleites starting to annoy everyone with all our obnoxious
> posts yet?  I highly recommend the pre-show bonding experience!

Never!  We're not annoying.  We're polite.

 -Lani O:)
lanio@u.washington.edu
    _______________________________________________________________
  I can't carry a tune in a bucket, but I carry that bucket with pride
						-Junior Brown
    ---------------------------------------------------------------

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Message-Id: <v03007800af4d371e659f@[164.67.20.31]>
Date: Wed, 12 Mar 1997 20:54:48 -0800
From: J Chen <alecson@ucla.edu>
Subject: Re: TMBG: Urine Man?

Tom Hare asked:

>I was just wondering... if urine man was the actual lyric sung in Weep Day.

     I get the digest, so forgive me if anyone who has the the _official_
lyrics has spoken up about this.

     At the time we were compiling the lyrics to PODAS, I asked if _anyone_
could make out the famous chorus lyrics in "Tropical Island aka A Wonderful
Song."  What I got was a reply from someone who was on the list at the
time, Bill Krauss, producer of the first They Might Be Giants album.

     He said that the song was called "Weep Day" and that the lyric went
"And it's samba time for Tambo and Weep Day for Urine Man."  It surprised
me and, at the same time, made me happy, because "Urine Man" was the only
thing I could hear it to be, and I kept thinking, "Nah, it couldn't be."

     Now, remember, that was from Mr. Krauss.  Until I see that the Giants
say otherwise, I'll go with "Urine Man."

--LVJeff

========================___________________________________________... . .  .
|    from   LVJeff     |  Personal mondegreen:
| Protected by Guan Yu |          "I'm going east of Eden."
|   alecson@ucla.edu   |      I Wanna Be Sedated, by The Ramones
========================           "I wanna be sedated."

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Message-ID: <kn9sg2S00iWk0GqrM0@andrew.cmu.edu>
Date: Thu, 13 Mar 1997 00:05:06 -0500 (EST)
From: Lawrence P Solomon <lps+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: TMBG: TMBG-Conga*line

Excerpts from internet.music.tmbg: 12-Mar-97 TMBG: TMBG-Conga*line by
ILOVEMARTHASTEWART@falco
> shot -- everybody CONGA!" and They preceeded to play 'Twistin' and we

Twisting?  Weird... as far as I can tell, they only have two songs that
have the right rhythm to conga to... one of them is No One Knows My
Plan.  There is one other song where the rhythm is essentially
identical, but much more subtle.  Which one is it?  (I've been doing
lots of sequencing lately, so I've experienced it :)

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Message-ID: <33278CE6.C03@earthlink.net>
Date: Wed, 12 Mar 1997 21:13:10 -0800
From: Herne <herne@earthlink.net>
Subject: TMBG: possible old news

Saw an ad in Billboard for Restless records that featured the cover of
the box set.  It has a drawing of a cruise ship in a bottle on the
cover.  If this has already been posted or seen by everyone...my
apologies as I am behind in my digests.

Herne

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Message-ID: <on9sj0q00iWk0Gqt00@andrew.cmu.edu>
Date: Thu, 13 Mar 1997 00:08:16 -0500 (EST)
From: Lawrence P Solomon <lps+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: TMBG: Dewan

Excerpts from internet.music.tmbg: 12-Mar-97 RE: TMBG: Dewan by seKretlY
caucASIAN@sdcc1
> just randomly looking through Lincoln, he apparently did the "cover art,"
> so could he bave been the one to construct that, um,
> thing..with..men..and towers..and other objects that elude description?
> though what further connections i have no idea, but it seems there's
> something at www.bar-none.com/bios/brianbio.html

He shares/shared an apartment with John Linnell.  I'm assuming they knew
each other before, though... His "claim to fame" for the few people in
the world who recognize his name (i.e. TMBG fans) is the electric
zither.  He built it out of parts of other instruments - I think a
harpsichord and an electric guitar were involved.  And it sounds really
neat.  Of course, I've only seen him play one song (Obedience School, on
the TMBG bootleg video Volume 2), and his CD is really hard to find -
although you can order it at Tower...

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Message-ID: <En9spFa00iWk0Gquo0@andrew.cmu.edu>
Date: Thu, 13 Mar 1997 00:14:57 -0500 (EST)
From: Lawrence P Solomon <lps+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: TMBG: Seattle Concert Review

Excerpts from internet.music.tmbg: 13-Mar-97 Re: TMBG:  Seattle Concert
.. by "The One and Only"@wolfe
> Was it venue?  Tour?  Just a change of pace?
> I think I like the first set-up better... but that's probably just because
> then Flansburgh is at the center of it all, and he's my favorite.  :)

The first setup was unusual.  I've seen them 5 times:

10/18/94   Tony    Flans     Linnell (keyboard) / Linnell (accordion)
with the horn players behind Linnell and slightly to his left - this was
on a VERY large stage, so they had a lot of room.
6/7/96    Eric      Flans    Linnell   Graham
with Graham and Eric kind of behind the others
8/16/96   Eric     Flans    Linnell    Graham
with the horn players almost directly behind Graham (smaller stage at
the 9:30 club)
12/14/96  Flans    Eric     Linnell    Graham
12/27/96   Flans   Linnell   Graham

Flansburgh *always* stands  to Linnell's right from their point of view.
 I have yet to see a performance where he doesn't.  It's probably
because he plays his guitar left handed.  Graham stands on the opposite
side of the stage for the same (opposite) reason.

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Date: Thu, 13 Mar 1997 01:00:53 -0500 (EST)
From: Nathan Smith <nathasm@bgnet.bgsu.edu>
Subject: TMBG: Jungle
Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.95.970313005819.930A-100000@bgnet2.bgsu.edu>

   Whoever's web page has the three .ra files on it. (Certain P, WTTJJ,
WDTSS) I was wondering if they had a .wav file or any other sound file. If
so, could they please send Welcome to the Jungle to me. It is one of my
favorite songs and all I have is the PODAS version. Thanks!
  ---===Nathan

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Date: Thu, 13 Mar 1997 00:10:48 -0600 (CST)
From: ILOVEMARTHASTEWART <woohoojb@falcon.cc.ukans.edu>
Subject: Re: TMBG: TMBG-Conga*line
Message-Id: <Pine.OSF.3.95q.970313000654.16994B-100000@falcon.cc.ukans.edu>

On Thu, 13 Mar 1997, Lawrence P Solomon wrote:

> Twisting?  Weird... as far as I can tell, they only have two songs that
> have the right rhythm to conga to... one of them is No One Knows My
> Plan.  There is one other song where the rhythm is essentially
> identical, but much more subtle.  Which one is it?  (I've been doing
> lots of sequencing lately, so I've experienced it :)
>

yeah, i thought it strange too, but i wrote it on my set list when i got
home so that's how i'm sure...plus, No One wasn't until the encore, and
the cong*o*rama was mid-concert...you know, so everyone could pack in even
tighter to the stage after the song...:)

		jillian

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Date: Thu, 13 Mar 1997 01:26:25 -0500 (EST)
Message-Id: <1.5.4.16.19970313013020.2197f8a4@postoffice.yorku.ca>
From: "The Famous Mr. Klaw" <yu108533@YorkU.CA>
Subject: TMBG: it's alive...ALIVE!!

Finally, my hideous creation is complete!  It's still monstrous and
frightening, but at least it isn't missing its lower limbs anymore.  On Mr.
Flippy's TMBG sound gallery, you can now find the completed version of "I'll
Sink Manhattan" combined most sloppily with "SEXXY".  The beast has been
chained up for your protection, but nobody knows how long the chains will
hold, so come at your own risk!  Muahahaha!!  They called me 'mad' at the
University!!

                                                                Alex

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From: Christi587@aol.com
Date: Thu, 13 Mar 1997 01:43:40 -0500 (EST)
Message-ID: <970313014340_-1505996402@emout11.mail.aol.com>
Subject: TMBG: OMLT order questions

Right here. Left is off doing the Goddess' homework for her while she is
incapacitated. I'll be answering questions today. From a "Skameleon@aol.com",
who may just get a cent or two knocked off his OMLT fee for having such a
great name (don't quote us on that, though):
>i'm interested, but i want to see what the shirt looks like . . .so
>if you could please direct me in the right direction towards where i could
>see what it looks like

Go forth and view, all: http://omlt.home.ml.org

From Mr. Larry Santiago, some more questions to which we thought everyone
should know the answers:
>1)  Where do I send the money?

It all goes to us! Mu ha ha ha.... er, wait. Sorry. It will get sent to the
Goddess when all orders have been placed, but until then don't worry about
it. We'll post an address when we're good and ready.

>2) How much is it?

If exactly 100 people order a shirt, $9.60. However, the chances of this
happening are small, so don't write those checks out yet, folks. It will be
somewhere in that $9-10 range. Something we do know for sure is that, while
the Goddess would leap at the chance to get more bootlegs, she is not rich
enough to trade shirts for tapes (as this would mean she'd have to pick up
the tab on the shirt... the shirt company is not likely interested in concert
boots of some band they've never heard of). So thanks to all who offered, but
it ain't possible.

>3)  Who do I make the check out to?

Not sure yet. Possibly the shirt company, possibly the Goddess' mommy, who
will then consolidate all the checks into one big one. It all depends on
whether the company is picky.

>4)  When can I expect the shirt?

As of this moment, 28 final orders have been received. The Goddess originally
received about 100 preliminary orders. As soon as the final order number
reaches that vicinity, we Shoes will start calling for last orders. We'd love
for this to happen as soon as possible, HINT HINT. However, we realize that
many people are on spring break now so we are forced to be lenient. (Grrr...)
So really we cannot predict a date with any accuracy. Late April or early May
would be our guess.

And now, Julie Baker demonstrates the proper way to approach the Shoes:

>Julie kneels humbly at the OMLT Goddess' feet. "Oh great and glorious
>goddess...here is the information you have demended from all us who
>have a need for an OMLT...please accept this as a right and just
>sacrifice..."

Remember, kiddies: the faster you send those orders, the faster you'll get
your shirts. Please include *ALL* of the following info when writing:
-number and *size* of shirts (everyone forgets to include size)
-a name and mailing address
-e-mail address that you use most
Send this info to Christi587@aol.com or christy@tmbg.org ASAP.

Oh yes, and we thank you all for your concern about the OMLT Goddess. She
appears to be recovering nicely. There will be emotional scars, of course--
she may never learn to like coffee now-- but we expect a full recovery by her
spring break, when she will be parading around the New York/ New England area
shaking her academic booty for various colleges.

--Christy's Shoes

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