Errors-To: owner-tmbg-digest@tmbg.org Reply-To: tmbg-digest@tmbg.org Sender: owner-tmbg-digest@tmbg.org Precedence: bulk From: owner-tmbg-digest@tmbg.org To: tmbg-digest@tmbg.org Subject: tmbg-list Digest #6-14 tmbg-list Digest, Volume 6, Number 14 Thursday, 14 May 1998 Today's Topics: Re: Kinda TMBG: A Website Non-TMBG: Self-pity Re: TMBG: Re: PETNAME Re: Non-TMBG: Double Dong? TMBG: What Linnell thinks about the poll Re: TMBG: What Linnell thinks about the poll TMBG: Re: tmbg-list Digest #6-13 Re: Non-TMBG: Double Dong? Re: TMBG: Re: PETNAME Re: Kinda TMBG: A Website TMBG:Dreams and other excitement Re: TMBG:Dreams and other excitement NON-TMBG: Mono Puff and Skeleton Key Re: TMBG:Dreams and other excitement TMBG: Re: my last post TMBG: Re: PETNAME (Warning: Cynical) TMBG:Dreams and other excitement (with a guest appearance by mike leffel!!!) TMBG: Re: PETNAME Re: Kinda TMBG: A Website TMBG: Member Picture Page? TMBG: license plates TMBG: Istanbul Page Re: Kinda TMBG: A Website TMBG: Istanbul Page TMBG: they'll need a crane... Re: TMBG: they'll need a crane... TMBG: L3enc and viruses and such TMBG: new member Re: TMBG: they'll need a crane... Re: TMBG: new member Re: TMBG: new member Re: TMBG: new member TMBG: Maybe life isn't so bad... ;) Re: TMBG: new member Re: TMBG: new member Re: TMBG: Istanbul Page TMBG: MusicHound sez... Administrivia: If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing send mail to tmbg-digest-request@tmbg.org for instructions on how to be automatically removed. --------------------------------------------------------------------- The views expressed herein are those of the individual authors. --------------------------------------------------------------------- tmbg-list is digested with Digest 3.5b (John Relph ). ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message-ID: <3559520C.9E3@stlnet.com> Date: Wed, 13 May 1998 01:57:20 -0600 From: Lynne Subject: Re: Kinda TMBG: A Website Hey. Well, I do agree in thinking that he/she is young, and I will give them this - he/she seems to be trying, but some of those descriptions are just plain ridiculous. I was thinking about writing a nice email telling them my opinions on the songs and maybe some ideas, if he can handle criticism. (sorry, couldn't help it.) But I thought it might hurt their feelings... oh well, maybe they'll learn. I think the "wooper" is when he is saying "and I'm feeling a-poorer, everyday... a hey-hey-hey..." and so on. So, "wooper = poorer" Maybe his copy didn't come with a liric (as he spelled it in the web site) book. Who knows... Thanks. Chris "I'm feeling wooper, too" Lynne chrisl@tmbg.org "And I'm feelin' a wooper everyday..." -They Might Be Giants (Sorry, couldn't resist.) ------------------------------ Message-Id: <199805130748.DAA22200@ussenterprise.ufp.org> Date: Wed, 13 May 1998 02:49:53 -0500 From: Mitchell Harding Subject: Non-TMBG: Self-pity >>no one >>existing seperate to this world of bandwidth--not male nor female--has >>ever joined with me in some bond of friendship, romantic or otherwise. > >heh.. I agree here too. well at least since... 6th grade .. ;) just >acquantences (in "real life"), but ones I'd rather avoid.. What about me, and our extremely deep yet somehow also lighthearted and jovial friendship? Firecrackers, Mitch "You have not lost interest in muffins, you just had 1 muffin you didn't enjoy." Support the Harf Project: All your questions answered, all your problems solved: ------------------------------ Message-Id: <3.0.2.32.19980512231510.007cd260@mail-in.keme.net> Date: Tue, 12 May 1998 23:15:10 +0100 From: Squidgy Colin Subject: Re: TMBG: Re: PETNAME At 14:51 12/05/98 +0000, you wrote: >>I'm the real deal too. Except I've fallne in love, many a times, but the >>girls never know it, so hey my lifes depressing. >> >>LDB *Not really depressed, just annoyed. > > After missing opportunities early on, i vowed to ALWAYS let them know... >can't say rejection's much comfort, but at least i don't have anymore >regrets , no more "woulda, coulda, shoulda"s. wait that's not true, cuz >recently i fell for the girl down the hall and i told her, but it totally >F@#$ed sh*t up cuz she's always around and it's really awkward... oh well > One of my main things in (this) life is to live for the moment. Lte's face it, you could be hit by a truck tomorrow. I intend to grab every oppotunity that passes by the balls and make the most of it. At present I have a few problems with some girls (yes, count 'em two, neither of which are my ladies but i wouldn't mine if ya know my meaning!). The past will always haunt if you don't treat the present with repect is what i'm trying to say to ya guys! Do I make any sense yet? If you like another peep, tell them or tell someone who is bound to tell them. If they blow you out then life goes on, If you get together then Hooo-rrahhhhhh!!!! You get the picture. --Cols, -----------THIS IS MY SIG FILE BY THE WAY------------ ~THE ELLESLEYS~ (of Colchester-Essex-UK) Home Page: Http://www.keme.co.uk/~thelimes/ TMBG page: Http://members.xoom.com/uncle_squid/Xoom/ "...you think that you're not good enough for me, that might be true but I like you anyway, You think I'm clever, Clever as can be, That might be true but I like you anyway" -The Sultans Of Ping "Veronica" ------------------------------ From: mjames@envy.loyola.edu (Matthew James) Message-Id: <9805131302.AA28296@envy.loyola.edu> Subject: Re: Non-TMBG: Double Dong? Date: Wed, 13 May 1998 09:02:31 -0400 (EDT) > > Can anyone recommend or tell me a little about Double Dong? > > I figured that if they toured with They, then they must be at least > > decent... > > yes, I can recommend that you stay far, far away from any of their > performances, recordings, or any other appearances. They are, by far, > the *worst* 'band' I have ever had the misfortune of seeing open for > TMBG (even worse than Goatboy). > > They're fun for about 5 minutes. Then the novelty wears off. Quickly. > The one nice thing is that they aren't loud, so if you have earplugs, > you can pretty much block them out completely. Wait a minute, Goatboy was fun for more than 5 minutes? I'd say that's an extra 5 minutes of fun they've got over Goatboy there! -Matt -- Matt James mjames@greed.loyola.edu Loyola College in Baltimore, MD Bruce Campbell Gazette: www.bcgazette.com ------------------------------ Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980513095217.006a3438@mail.clemson.edu> Date: Wed, 13 May 1998 09:52:17 -0400 From: Adam Tyner Subject: TMBG: What Linnell thinks about the poll Here's an article from the op-ed section of the NY Times. Thanks to Rabid.Child@tmbg.org for posting it on the TMBG Musings board, where I copied this from: They Might Be Nearsighted By JOHN LINNELL I'm a middle-aged accordion player, and inspecting myself just now I see that I look tired and badly need a haircut. So you can imagine my confusion when I got a call last week from the manager of my band telling me that my name had turned up in People magazine's on-line poll of the most beautiful people of 1998. I had already gotten wind of the existence of the poll a few days earlier when I read that Leonardo DiCaprio had been knocked out of the No. 1 spot by a dark horse named Hank the Angry, Drunken Dwarf. The on-line voters, it seemed, had a new, more evolved definition of beauty that gave low marks to standard celebrity good looks. What they really valued was a person's inner beauty. Anyway, that's what I told myself as I went on line to see the results firsthand. By the time I found the site my name had risen to No. 9, putting me a few E-votes behind Madonna and Kate Winslet and just above Sarah Michelle Gellar, star of the television program "Buffy the Vampire Slayer." Hank the Dwarf was still No. 1, sailing far above Leonardo, and another surprise candidate named Ric Flair was ascending fast. Ric turned out to be a professional wrestler with a large and zealous on-line fan base. For his part, Hank had developed his constituency after appearing on the Howard Stern show. What was I doing in such company? I still don't know who was voting for me, although it seems possible that one computer hacker on a mission could stuff the ballot box electronically. The band I sing and perform with, They Might Be Giants, enjoys an audience that probably includes a few loose cannons of this type. Once the cannonball got rolling, though, it seemed to gain momentum among our on-line fans. My position in the pantheon of beautiful people was thus assured. When the final results were posted Monday, I was still ninth, with 4,189 votes, 8 ahead of Buffy and 1,038 behind Madonna. Hank finished with 230,169, more than 200,000 ahead of Ric, his nearest competitor. It has been suggested that the Internet might be a good way to vote for our elected officials. If my experience is any guide, though, it appears there are still a few bugs to be worked out before you'll be able to elect the next President while sitting at home in your underwear, unless you want Shecky Greene running the country. If I had had the choice I might have put myself in a different race -- the "most interestingly mismatched socks" poll, perhaps. Maybe then I would have beaten Hank. John Linnell is a member of They Might Be Giants, whose albums include the forthcoming "Severe Tire Damage." /----=========================================================----\ http://www.awod.com/gallery/rwav/ctyner/ The home of He-Man, "Weird Al", Yoo-hoo, Killer Tomatoes, and more! Demented music list admin O- MiSTie #67,326 ------------------------------ Message-ID: <3559D307.278B@fuse.net> Date: Wed, 13 May 1998 10:06:15 -0700 From: jays your one-paged dictionary Organization: dial-a-song! 718-287-6962, narrrrrrrrr! Subject: Re: TMBG: What Linnell thinks about the poll Adam Tyner wrote: > What was I doing in such company? I still don't know who was voting for me, > although it seems possible that one computer hacker on a mission could > stuff the ballot box electronically. if only he knew. :) peace, love, and good happiness stuff, jay. -- jayhc, playing classical guitar with a pick (if you don't get that, worry not ... it's not funny). e-mail: sirjamez@fuse.net, phonebook@tmbg.org aol im: SaturnChrd, PhoneBookJ irc: PhoneBook "and sadly the cross-eyed bear's been put to sleep behind the stairs, and his shoes are laced with irony." --tmbg "you can fool some of the people all of the time, and all of the people some of the time, and that's sufficient." --the eternal optimist. -- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 13 May 1998 11:21:09 -0400 (EDT) From: Hotel Detective Subject: TMBG: Re: tmbg-list Digest #6-13 Message-Id: << yes, I can recommend that you stay far, far away from any of their performances, recordings, or any other appearances. They are, by far, the *worst* 'band' I have ever had the misfortune of seeing open for TMBG (even worse than Goatboy). >> Oh my god. At first, I thought they were "interesting." By the second or third song, I wanted to throw soemthing at them. They reminded me of a bad 80's rap group. All I can remember is that one of their songs was named "seven holy orfices." I won't even comment. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 13 May 1998 10:44:38 -0500 From: Chad Maloney Subject: Re: Non-TMBG: Double Dong? Message-id: <3559BFE6.2B37A5C1@rosevc.rose-hulman.edu> Lawrence P Solomon wrote: > yes, I can recommend that you stay far, far away from any of their > performances, recordings, or any other appearances. They are, by far, > the *worst* 'band' I have ever had the misfortune of seeing open for > TMBG (even worse than Goatboy). > Whoa. Now THAT is harsh. Very very harsh. Worse than Goatboy? I never thought it would happen. - Chad "even being without Leffel on the list for an extended time is better than Goatboy" Maloney ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 13 May 1998 10:56:09 -0600 (MDT) From: J Kuemmerle Subject: Re: Re: TMBG: Re: PETNAME Message-ID: On Tue, 12 May 1998, Harry wrote: > I was the stereotype geek when I was younger. Now I'm more of a "geek > incognito". Either way, all things pass with time and the playing field is > definately better for those that are intelligent and eccentric in the adult > world than it is in the cruel, cruel confines of public education. amen! --jim kuemmerle, who's not all that religious... j.kuemmerle@m.cc.utah.edu ------------------------------ Message-ID: <19980513165602.7657.qmail@hotmail.com> From: "Brian Jones" Subject: Re: Kinda TMBG: A Website Date: Wed, 13 May 1998 09:56:02 PDT >From: KdsInThHal >Message-ID: <2428c10f.3558f822@aol.com> >Date: Tue, 12 May 1998 21:32:17 EDT >Subject: Re: Kinda TMBG: A Website > >In a message dated 5/12/98 9:07:26 PM, chrisl@stlnet.com wrote: > >Ok, I was all ready to defend this person until I saw the site. I think it's > safe in saying they *aren't* on the list.. or else I'm suure we'd know it.. > (Spinelli, anyone?) > >"12.Youth Culture Killed My Dog is a weird song. (like most others on >this cd.) It took me a while to figure out what he said without looking >at the liricks, I thought he said "Your brother killed my dog"." > >I'm guessing it's by a ...young person.... > Yes, it is by a young person. More specifically, my 11-year old younger brother. So before all of you start sending him hate mail and filling his guestbook with insults, remember that when most of you (read: high school and college students) were his age, you were hanging posters of Vanilla Ice and New Kids on the Block in your lockers. Brian, who appreciates the fact that his brother listens to TMBG rather than country music like the rest of his family, and will now return to lurking . . . ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ From: gray42@juno.com Date: Wed, 13 May 1998 15:44:53 -0400 Subject: TMBG:Dreams and other excitement Message-ID: <19980513.154518.6438.0.gray42@juno.com> Wow, I've been happy all day, Wanna know Why?... No?... Too bad, yer gonna hear it anyway *hyuk*! Well it started off with one of the most wonderful dreams I've ever had... Imean it started off with me going home from school, how perfect is that? Well I get on the bus, and there is Mr. X (boy I really really like *nudge nudge* w/ out revealing any names) and he gives me a huge compliment (how very flattering :) ) then he hands me the tape that he made me containing a whole bunch of They Might Be Giants vidios (this is me fantisizing about a tape I should receive fairly soon in the future *yeah*). Well it just so happens that there is a Television and VCR conveniently placed into the back of the seat in front of me, so we cozy up & watch the vidio, well it ends up being some news thing about a spectacular They Might Ge Giants parade, alot of burning angry scarecrows on sticks on a bright cheery spring day in New York, huge crowd, puppet heads, you know, the works, a few other nice things happen in my dream, like the fact my Art teacher calls me a genius, it happens to be my b-day, several muppet sightings, all sorts of razy fun, the worst part was waking up, I'd give further detail but it's kinda Non TMBG related so I'd bettr not. Well (of course already in a state of Nirvanna from that dream) I went to school, and to my suprise durring morning announcements, with the closing credits they played Particle Man! Now this is crazy because Booker is sort of split into groups, and I mainly stick with my punk/goth/80's, Art friends, mix well with the drama and techie kids, have great fun w/ the musicians and journalists, but don't actually know anyone in the TV and radio section, therefore had no idea there were any TMBG fans over there, well apparently there are, and that just tingles my toenails, it's about time Booker got a good dosage of TMBG :D Thanx for listening Mysterio Gal (fellow Subgenius & Happy Mutant) " If there were no doorknobs nobody would be abel to open the doors. Everybody would die" --Claire (age 6) ICQ# 9585405 MST3K#88182 gray42@juno.com http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Coffeehouse/4871 _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ From: KdsInThHal Message-ID: Date: Wed, 13 May 1998 16:15:16 EDT Subject: Re: TMBG:Dreams and other excitement In a message dated 5/13/98 4:02:35 PM, gray42@juno.com wrote: >I went to >school, and to my suprise durring morning announcements, with the closing >credits they played Particle Man! Now this is crazy because Booker is >sort of split into groups, and I mainly stick with my punk/goth/80's, Art >friends, mix well with the drama and techie kids, have great fun w/ the >musicians and journalists, but don't actually know anyone in the TV and >radio section, therefore had no idea there were any TMBG fans over there, >well apparently there are, and that just tingles my toenails, it's about >time Booker got a good dosage of TMBG :D LOL! sounds exactly like what happened toe last year, I was walking into homeroom and all the sudden Ana Ng came on the PA:) I kinda froze and my eyes bugged out of my head..hehheh.. Oh I have some little TMBGy things to share about today as well.. I got the paper and you know, opened it and looked at my horoscope, and it said (I'm paraphrasing): "Someone you meet at a partycould be your future mate" -- hey! "Pet Name"! too bad I don't go to parties. Not to say I ever get invited. *then*; I was reading an article about a bomb threat at a local school - a warning was written on a bathroom stall in - and this is what they put: "green magic marker." ! I don't know if I just have TMBG on the brain, or.. oh yeah, and then there was a guy on tv named David Ensor. LOL.. can too much sleep affect the brain in this way or....? haras gro.gbmt@lrigllennil ------------------------------ Message-ID: <19980513203636.22539.qmail@hotmail.com> From: "Jason F." Subject: NON-TMBG: Mono Puff and Skeleton Key Date: Wed, 13 May 1998 13:36:35 PDT I realize I'm out of things but it just hit me when I was looking through the liner notes to my recently purchased Skeleton Key cd that two of the band members appear on Mono Puff's Unsupervised. I had heard that Steve Calhoon was the drummer for both, but also Erik Sanko appears on Unsupervised (I'm sure you all knew that but I didn't). The point of this post is: Does anyone else like Skeleton Key? Could you point me to lyrics or other info on the web? Also, who plays what and who sings? It doesn't say in the liner notes. You could mail me personally since we don't want any more non-TMBG material. I guess that's it. --Jason-- "Hot Cha, where are you? Everybody's eyes are closed." -They Might Be Giants ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Message-ID: <355A3175.1865@fuse.net> Date: Wed, 13 May 1998 16:49:09 -0700 From: jays your one-paged dictionary Organization: dial-a-song! 718-287-6962, narrrrrrrrr! Subject: Re: TMBG:Dreams and other excitement KdsInThHal wrote: > Oh I have some little TMBGy things to share about today as well.. > I got the paper and you know, opened it and looked at my horoscope, and it > said (I'm paraphrasing): "Someone you meet at a partycould be your future > mate" -- hey! "Pet Name"! too bad I don't go to parties. Not to say I ever > get invited. > *then*; I was reading an article about a bomb threat at a local school - a > warning was written on a bathroom stall in - and this is what they put: "green > magic marker." ! I don't know if I just have TMBG on the brain, or.. oh > yeah, and then there was a guy on tv named David Ensor. LOL.. can too much > sleep affect the brain in this way or....? > at work monday night (oh, the joys of selling 39 cent greeting cards to hordes of little old ladies), my fellow pariah, nathan, asked me if my name was "nowhere." er ... :) it was in response to my normal complaints that i need a girlfriend, among other things, so i assumed it was some sort of colloquial phrase denoting me to a position of lifelesness and thought nothing of it at the time. however, in retrospect ... did i fabricate the whole instance? is my mind truly stable? has it been finally conquered by the johns in Their secret plans to take over the world and rule it with an iron shoe? gulp. peace, love, and good happiness stuff, jay. -- jayhc, looking down the stairwell. e-mail: sirjamez@fuse.net, phonebook@tmbg.org aol im: SaturnChrd, PhoneBookJ irc: PhoneBook "and sadly the cross-eyed bear's been put to sleep behind the stairs, and his shoes are laced with irony." --tmbg "you can fool some of the people all of the time, and all of the people some of the time, and that's sufficient." --the eternal optimist. -- ------------------------------ From: gray42@juno.com Date: Wed, 13 May 1998 16:37:52 -0400 Subject: TMBG: Re: my last post Message-ID: <19980513.164726.6438.3.gray42@juno.com> >now i don't want to induce any suicides or anything here so i'm gonna >sum this up by telling you right now that you've got it better than >someone out there... you may have to give some things up but in the >end you may make yourself happier... > hehe, I can name 1, Marvin The Paraniod Android (I needed to say that) >take it easy, JOrdaN >http://www2.netcom.com/~arnot/joda/bootlegs.html > :::gettin a little too sentimental here::: Mysterio Gal (fellow Subgenius & Happy Mutant) " If there were no doorknobs nobody would be abel to open the doors. Everybody would die" --Claire (age 6) ICQ# 9585405 MST3K#88182 gray42@juno.com http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Coffeehouse/4871 ------------------------------ From: gray42@juno.com Date: Wed, 13 May 1998 16:24:41 -0400 Subject: TMBG: Re: PETNAME (Warning: Cynical) Message-ID: <19980513.164726.6438.2.gray42@juno.com> On Tue, 12 May 1998 22:32:37 EDT Monotreme3 writes: >In a message dated 5/12/98 6:33:24 PM Eastern Daylight Time, >sirjamez@fuse.net >writes: > >> bah, you all have lives, and good ones, too, put in comparison with >my >> own. not only has never a female acknowledged my affections, but >no one >> existing seperate to this world of bandwidth--not male nor >female--has >> ever joined with me in some bond of friendship, romantic or >otherwise. >> i'm the archtypical lonely, depressed slacker; a living green day >song, >> if you will. >> >> revel in your differences to me, for they constitute all that is >good >> about the world. :) >> >> peace, love, and good happiness stuff, > (Warning: If You Do Not Enjoy Reading The SAD Rambling Gibberish Of A Person, Delete This Message Now) hey, hello, hi there, I also would like to post my pathetic love life, and I must admit it's my own damn fault. I'm not yer classic pretty girl, never wear makeup or mini skirts, its against my *own* religion, on top of that, I'm loud and annoying, and am usually not taken seriously. For the (2) people that have actually gotten interested in me, I sent to them a subliminal off message of paranoia, for the silly reason being me having a useless crush on a boy I cn never have, because he is simply not attracted to me. "Don't break the heart that needs you"--Monopuff comes to mind at the moment. I've never been in a *love* relationship I'm 17, and I both desire and hate the idea that I may remain this way till I'm 99. I've had plenty of friendships, but I often manage to mess them up, I'm the f***in' entertainment, I'm the f***in' retarded weirdo w/ no feelings and does not fit into this society. I could change and become a robot "clang, clang, whoops too late", but, as a happy mutant, I have taken a vow not to do it. Or I could remain a doomed person in the feild of romance. Love has its ups and downs but so does freedom, and I don't really wanna give it up right now. Of course I'mn probably just being cynical. Well you've made it this far and f you can read this I can pretty much guarentee you've survived :) Thanx fer letting me vent The Magikal Moodswing Midget Mysterio Gal (fellow Subgenius & Happy Mutant) " If there were no doorknobs nobody would be abel to open the doors. Everybody would die" --Claire (age 6) ICQ# 9585405 MST3K#88182 gray42@juno.com http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Coffeehouse/4871 cotradiction*contradiction*contradiction*contradiction* _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 13 May 1998 15:00:38 -0600 (MDT) From: J Kuemmerle Subject: TMBG:Dreams and other excitement (with a guest appearance by mike leffel!!!) Message-ID: On Wed, 13 May 1998, KdsInThHal wrote: > Oh I have some little TMBGy things to share about today as well.. > I got the paper and you know, opened it and looked at my horoscope, and it > said (I'm paraphrasing): "Someone you meet at a partycould be your future > mate" -- hey! "Pet Name"! too bad I don't go to parties. Not to say I ever > get invited. > *then*; I was reading an article about a bomb threat at a local school - a > warning was written on a bathroom stall in - and this is what they put: "green > magic marker." ! I don't know if I just have TMBG on the brain, or.. oh > yeah, and then there was a guy on tv named David Ensor. LOL.. can too much > sleep affect the brain in this way or....? :) speaking of bathroom stalls, this afternoon, i *really* *really* needed to use the restroom... "WOONK! WOONK! THE MORE THAN I NEED TO KNOW KLAXON HAS BEEN ACTIVATED! TOSS OUT YOUR WEEK OLD BREAD AND LOOK FOR A NEW HOME IN MISSOURI BECAUSE THE KNOW FACTORS HAVE BEEN COMPROMISED!! WOONK! WOONK!" -- mike leffel, 1997 ...and i walk into the restroom, and there on the toilet stall in bold blue letters is written "CRANE"... i guess i needed a crane after all... --jim kuemmerle, who looks at other gals... j.kuemmerle@m.cc.utah.edu ------------------------------ From: gray42@juno.com Date: Wed, 13 May 1998 16:23:34 -0400 Subject: TMBG: Re: PETNAME Message-ID: <19980513.164726.6438.1.gray42@juno.com> On Tue, 12 May 1998 14:51:54 +0000 Josh Morgan writes: >>I'm the real deal too. Except I've fallne in love, many a times, but >the >>girls never know it, so hey my lifes depressing. >> >>LDB *Not really depressed, just annoyed. > > After missing opportunities early on, i vowed to ALWAYS let >them know... >can't say rejection's much comfort, but at least i don't have anymore >regrets , no more "woulda, coulda, shoulda"s. wait that's not true, >cuz >recently i fell for the girl down the hall and i told her, but it >totally >F@#$ed sh*t up cuz she's always around and it's really awkward... oh >well Hey that souds like the whole Sleeping In The Flowers situation, hmmm >forever lamenting, >josh Mysterio Gal (fellow Subgenius & Happy Mutant) " If there were no doorknobs nobody would be abel to open the doors. Everybody would die" --Claire (age 6) ICQ# 9585405 MST3K#88182 gray42@juno.com http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Coffeehouse/4871 _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ From: Cajun Gram Message-ID: <27024f69.355a1343@aol.com> Date: Wed, 13 May 1998 17:40:18 EDT Subject: Re: Kinda TMBG: A Website In a message dated 98-05-13 12:57:25 EDT, you write: << school and college students) were his age, you were hanging posters of Vanilla Ice and New Kids on the Block in your lockers. >> who says we stopped... I have posters of both on my wall as we speak... Though I mean no harm towards your brother, I actually think it's great that he is in to They Might Be Giants, It's gives me hope for the future if this country (wipes tear from, eye) God Bless America!!!! Graham "Who's not that religious or patriotic" Amsden ------------------------------ From: Spoonerism Message-ID: Date: Wed, 13 May 1998 18:04:38 EDT Subject: TMBG: Member Picture Page? What's all this then about a TMBG Listie Picture Page? What's the address, and what kind of info can you put up there? Eh? Oh, by the way, I just called Circuit City (the place where I get all my cool Talking Heads Albums {You gotta have something to get you through the off years, right?{) and asked if they could hold the forthcoming Mono Puff CD for me on Tuesday. The guy on the other end said "Mono who?" to which I responded with a "nevermind, I'll call on Tuesday." -Casey, who hisses at the light and slinks back into the shadows ------------------------------ Message-Id: <199805132214.QAA17545@digisys.net> From: "bighead@tmbg.org" Date: Wed, 13 May 1998 16:09:03 +0000 Subject: TMBG: license plates I got my plates for my new car today. I went to the motor vehicle dept. and asked for the vanity plate "TMBG" they wanted my 2nd and 3rd choice and I explained to them that I had no 2nd or 3rd choice. That was it. YOu can well imagine my surprise when they told me someone else had that plate..I live in MONTANA, I didn't know that anyone in montana was that cool! Anyway the point is, I didn't get mad. In fact I was happy. I still am. and one day I'm gonna see someone with a tmbg plate and pull them off to the side of the road and befriend them. If anyone on this list is that super cool individual with the plates, email me and I will be your pal. Wade Michael Atkinson "...and the truth is we don't know anything..." ------------------------------ From: Spoonerism Message-ID: <1e7bff97.355a1b9c@aol.com> Date: Wed, 13 May 1998 18:15:55 EDT Subject: TMBG: Istanbul Page I just went to this page and almost fell out of my chair laughing! Has this person ever heard of thinking? All of his "interpretations" are just barely touching the surface of the songs. Take, for example, Twisting, one of my favourite songs. This person writes "Twisting-This is a pretty bad song. It talks about setting goldfish free and blowing out you pilot light. I don't really think that's going to make a very good song." And he hasn't ever heard the expression "whistling in the dark" either. "Whisting in the Dark, one really cool song that is unique because it tells you to whistle in the dark." I would write about more, but I'm too busy trying to take breaths in between my laughter.. -Casey, who takes much delight in the faults of others ------------------------------ Message-Id: Date: Wed, 13 May 98 18:35 EDT From: kbrodbec@remcen.ehhs.cmich.edu (Kirsten Brodbeck) Subject: Re: Kinda TMBG: A Website >Yes, it is by a young person. More specifically, my 11-year old younger >brother. So before all of you start sending him hate mail and filling >his guestbook with insults, remember that when most of you (read: high >school and college students) were his age, you were hanging posters of >Vanilla Ice and New Kids on the Block in your lockers. Awwww.. :} Give the kid a noogie for me, okay? What a great kid. Kirs -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "You think you're so funny, but looks aren't everything." - Lincoln "Wish You Were Dead" Kirsten Brodbeck kbrodbec@remcen.ehhs.cmich.edu AKA Crow ------------------------------ From: mjames@envy.loyola.edu (Matthew James) Message-Id: <9805132231.AA28570@envy.loyola.edu> Subject: TMBG: Istanbul Page Date: Wed, 13 May 1998 18:31:57 -0400 (EDT) > And he hasn't ever heard the expression "whistling in the dark" either. > "Whisting in the Dark, one really cool song that is unique because it tells > you to whistle in the dark." What exactly does the expression "Whistling in the Dark" mean? I'd never heard it apart from the song. By the way, what's the address to this crazy TMBG interpretation page? Matt -- Matt James mjames@greed.loyola.edu Loyola College in Baltimore, MD Bruce Campbell Gazette: www.bcgazette.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 13 May 1998 17:19:06 -0600 (MDT) From: J Kuemmerle Subject: TMBG: they'll need a crane... Message-ID: On Tue, 12 May 1998, Kirsten Brodbeck wrote: > First of all, to Jim.. thank you! (hugs kirsten back) > Secondly, does anyone tend to see "They'll Need a Crane" as a somewhat > awkward and painful, yet friendly end to a relationship? I mean, it's > horribly sad, but it's not vicious, just sort of melancholy... that's *exactly* how i see it, and that's *exactly* why i had it running through my head as opposed to, say, "lucky ball & chain", "stormy pinkness", or "narrow your eyes"... after all, if they weren't still friends, why should they be checking out the nightmare people restaurant? ^_^ > And yeah, it ran through my head off and on for months, as an ex and I > struggled to figure out if things were salvagable or if we'd best just > let them be... (jim hugs kirsten again) > It's like, I see it as being about two people who know that their > relationship is dissolving, and know that maybe it's best if they just end > it, but they still care about each other enough to make it terribly hard. > Like they almost need something earth-shattering (a metal ball hung from a > chain?) to really drive home the fact that things aren't ever going to be > the way they were. "To take the house he built for her apart", so to > speak. *exactly*... the house is still there, even if the lights are on and nobody's home... :) even after the "i'm just tired and i don't love you anymore," they're still making plans to go see the nightmare people restaurant (that is, they're still talking as friends) and they're still concerned enough about each other's feelings for a "baby, wait, i didn't mean to say nightmare"... > Heh, yeah... The aformentioned relationship had periods of both.. > Note to all you guys: If you're breaking up with a girl you still care > about, it's NOT a good idea to piss her off in an attempt to "make a clean > break." :P damn straight. same thing goes for gals too. :) > damn, I'm all depressed now.. time to go listen to some happy songs and > feel sad.. ;) sad, sad, sad, sad, why must i be sad? --jim kuemmerle, who's bad but causes little pain... j.kuemmerle@m.cc.utah.edu ------------------------------ Message-ID: <355A5D98.2750@fuse.net> Date: Wed, 13 May 1998 19:57:29 -0700 From: jays your one-paged dictionary Organization: dial-a-song! 718-287-6962, narrrrrrrrr! Subject: Re: TMBG: they'll need a crane... J Kuemmerle wrote: > --snipped a buncha generally sad stuff about TNAC-- > > sad, sad, sad, sad, why must i be sad? > > --jim kuemmerle, who's bad but causes little pain... > > j.kuemmerle@m.cc.utah.edu that question is not one easily answered. *grin* it's either a matter of chemistry or some evil deity frowning upon you, and neither one seems so great to me. personally, i opt for chemistry ... i AM an evil deity, so that's ruled out by default. due to my inherent, ever-present loneliness, i've developed some theories as to how evolution dictates that romantic love is a dying thing. it goes along with Jay's Concentrated Philosophy (i'll send a copy to anyone who asks .. heh, i'm serious), which details that which would make normal people raise two or three eyebrows. so i think you'll all take it well. in any event ... the johns don't seem to be so blatantly atheistic, so i doubt they'd agree. oh, well. they'll need a crane to tear the ideas forming society apart. peace, love, and good happiness stuff, jay. -- jayhc, looking death straight in the eye and pissing his pants. e-mail: sirjamez@fuse.net, phonebook@tmbg.org aol im: SaturnChrd, PhoneBookJ irc: PhoneBook "and sadly the cross-eyed bear's been put to sleep behind the stairs, and his shoes are laced with irony." --tmbg "you can fool some of the people all of the time, and all of the people some of the time, and that's sufficient." --the eternal optimist. -- ------------------------------ Message-ID: <00e001bd7eca$f39406a0$61331ed1@refund.rcn.nmt.edu> From: "Refund" Subject: TMBG: L3enc and viruses and such Date: Wed, 13 May 1998 17:57:53 -0600 To those of you to whom I've sent things... There are no viruses in the files I've sent you. I've scanned my HD extensively with the newest version of Norton. There was a scare that the CDripping program I'm sending had a virus in it. To whomever it was who warned me: thanks for the warning, but I think it was the L3enc you downloaded off the web. Sorry for your troubles, and thanks for your time and patience. Signed, Nick Wolf, TMBG Ambassador to the state of New Mexico. And whoever said there's nothing new under the sun never thought much about individuals, but he's dead anyway. The Refreshments -- Down Together. P.S. Visit www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Amphitheatre/5550/ The first Julie Plug tribute page in HISTORY!!! :0) ------------------------------ Message-ID: <19980514001823.14357.rocketmail@send1d.yahoomail.com> Date: Wed, 13 May 1998 17:18:23 -0700 (PDT) From: katy gaither Subject: TMBG: new member Hey Everyone, I'm probably the youngest member on this list. I am only 12. My older sister danielle converted me in to a tmbg fan. You may know her as Danielle,inspector over the mine. Nice to talk to all of you. Katy P.S.--I love "Exquisite Dead Guy"! _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ From: Cajun Gram Message-ID: <5ffc0417.355a3973@aol.com> Date: Wed, 13 May 1998 20:23:13 EDT Subject: Re: TMBG: they'll need a crane... In a message dated 98-05-13 19:19:43 EDT, you write: << > Secondly, does anyone tend to see "They'll Need a Crane" as a somewhat > awkward and painful, yet friendly end to a relationship? I mean, it's > horribly sad, but it's not vicious, just sort of melancholy... that's *exactly* how i see it, and that's *exactly* why i had it running through my head as opposed to, say, "lucky ball & chain", "stormy pinkness", or "narrow your eyes"... after all, if they weren't still friends, why should they be checking out the nightmare people restaurant? ^_^ >> That nighmare people part is, in my opinion, about after they have broken up, and are hanging out again as friends, but there is still a little bit of tension. And then the guy makes a crack about some some nightmarish people in an attempt to be funny, and the girl just kina looks at him like he's being completely harsh and stupid, and so he's says that there not really nightmare people in an attemp to cover his tracks... "There's a restaurant we should check out where the other nightmare people liked to go, I mean nice people, baby wait, I didn't mean to say nighmare..." That's just my opinion at least, and I think as a whol They'll Need A Crane is sort of a soothing song... Graham "The UnSuccessful Lurker" Amsden ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 13 May 1998 18:01:08 -0700 (PDT) From: leonard helfgott Subject: Re: TMBG: new member Message-ID: welcome to the club. I joined when I was 13, and know a lot of people who joined when they were 11, so you're not alone. Jon Helfgott. * ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- There is a place where the sun and the moon rise together in harmony, but when you get there, beware of the fascist chickens ------------------------------ From: EmmyMik Message-ID: <14b7dc81.355a44c6@aol.com> Date: Wed, 13 May 1998 21:11:33 EDT Subject: Re: TMBG: new member In a message dated 98-05-13 20:23:46 EDT, you write: << Hey Everyone, I'm probably the youngest member on this list. I am only 12. My older sister danielle converted me in to a tmbg fan. You may know her as Danielle,inspector over the mine. Nice to talk to all of you. Katy P.S.--I love "Exquisite Dead Guy"! >> Don't feel too bad about your age. I'm 15, so I don't feel like a youngin' of the list anymore... ------------------------------ From: gray42@juno.com Date: Wed, 13 May 1998 21:07:01 -0400 Subject: Re: TMBG: new member Message-ID: <19980513.210915.3294.2.gray42@juno.com> Hey Katie, Nice to meetcha, it's alway great to have a newcomer to the list. As far as age goes you've got me beat (17) Whelp enjoy za fuhn and gamez seeya Mysterio Gal (fellow Subgenius & Happy Mutant) " If there were no doorknobs nobody would be abel to open the doors. Everybody would die" --Claire (age 6) ICQ# 9585405 MST3K#88182 gray42@juno.com http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Coffeehouse/4871 _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Message-ID: <19980514011821.8912.rocketmail@web1.rocketmail.com> Date: Wed, 13 May 1998 18:18:21 -0700 (PDT) From: Danielle Gaither Subject: TMBG: Maybe life isn't so bad... ;) I used to belong to one of those CD clubs. I cancelled my membership because they were charging me too much for crap. However, they have sent me a letter: "Dear Former Member:" I like that. The personal touch. "Yes, I admit it. You were such a good member--of ocurse, I'd love to have you back." OK, have they hired my ex-fiancee to write letters for them? At any rate, they are having one of those bargain basement clearance type things, and they say I can get all these CD's in an enclosed brochure at bargain prices without joining the club. Of course, I figure if I take them up on it, they'll flood me with letters asking to rejoin, but oh, well. So I looked through the brochure, and guess what I found? Mono Puff: Unsupervised, and the Power Rangers soundtrack for $4.99 a piece. Woohoo! I've got a world that swings. ;) Danielle, inspector over the mine P.S.--Yes, Katy is my sister. My first conversion; I am quite proud of myself. "Uhh, I convert thee in the name of the left-handed guitar, the accordion, and the Stick!" === URL: http://www.geocities.com/CollegePark/1054/index.html "Remember me? I'm not married, I don't have any kids, and I'd blow your head off if someone paid me enough." --from _Grosse Pointe Blank_ _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19980513213218.00a67b00@mail.csrlink.net> Date: Wed, 13 May 1998 21:32:18 -0400 From: Dylan Flipse Subject: Re: TMBG: new member At 09:11 PM 5/13/98 EDT, you wrote: >In a message dated 98-05-13 20:23:46 EDT, you write: > ><< Hey Everyone, > I'm probably the youngest member on this list. I am only 12. My older > sister danielle converted me in to a tmbg fan. You may know her as > Danielle,inspector over the mine. Nice to talk to all of you. > > Katy > > P.S.--I love "Exquisite Dead Guy"! >> > > >Don't feel too bad about your age. I'm 15, so I don't feel like a youngin' of >the list anymore... Hell yah, age isn't important. For I am one thousand years old. Dylan "Mike Leffel woulda done in in a heartbeat" Flipse Dylan Flipse...one of them. - dflipse@csrlink.net Dylan's page is at http://www.geocities.com/Athens/9909/ for now. I'll never see myself in the mirror with my eyes closed -They Might Be Giants, the coolest thing this side of Zaphod Beeblebrox. ------------------------------ Message-ID: <355A7BEF.7DB6@fuse.net> Date: Wed, 13 May 1998 22:06:55 -0700 From: jays your one-paged dictionary Organization: dial-a-song! 718-287-6962, narrrrrrrrr! Subject: Re: TMBG: new member katy gaither wrote: > > Hey Everyone, > I'm probably the youngest member on this list. I am only 12. My older > sister danielle converted me in to a tmbg fan. You may know her as > Danielle,inspector over the mine. Nice to talk to all of you. > > Katy > > P.S.--I love "Exquisite Dead Guy"! > but you barely know me. :) heh. welcome to the list; mine is the wee age of 16, but i'm often told i act as if 12, so you and i may have something in common. enjoy our insanity ... you'll come to acquire it for yourself, i'm sure. in the name of the johns! jay. -- jayhc, who doesn't plan on aging past 29. e-mail: sirjamez@fuse.net, phonebook@tmbg.org aol im: SaturnChrd, PhoneBookJ irc: PhoneBook "and sadly the cross-eyed bear's been put to sleep behind the stairs, and his shoes are laced with irony." --tmbg "you can fool some of the people all of the time, and all of the people some of the time, and that's sufficient." --the eternal optimist. -- ------------------------------ Message-Id: Date: Wed, 13 May 98 22:09 EDT From: kbrodbec@remcen.ehhs.cmich.edu (Kirsten Brodbeck) Subject: Re: TMBG: Istanbul Page >What exactly does the expression "Whistling in the Dark" mean? I'd >never heard it apart from the song. The term "whistling in the dark" means acting with bravado when you're actually nervous. Like if you're walking down a dark alley, and you're scared, but you're pretending not to be, so you start to whistle in an attempt to feel better. Kirsten -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "You think you're so funny, but looks aren't everything." - Lincoln "Wish You Were Dead" Kirsten Brodbeck kbrodbec@remcen.ehhs.cmich.edu AKA Crow ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 13 May 1998 23:56:56 -0400 (EDT) From: 99 and 44/100% MIKe! Subject: TMBG: MusicHound sez... Message-ID: ...love one another, and/or space age polymers, but actually, like a lot of you I'm always bemused and excited to see our boys mentioned in print. Though after this decade plus of rocking out, they're firmly entrenched by those in the know as real players in the music biz, they still seem just esoteric and unknown enough for me to be sort of happily surprised when _real rock journalists_ talk about them. I give full props to anyone who actually tells people to go out and buy records by TMBG, or for that matter, Ween, and XTC, and Art of Noise, and there is actually a book that tells people to go out there and do those very things. It's called the MusicHound Essential Rock Album Guide 1997. (So it's got info up to and including 1996). Written by Gary Graff, it's actually, for the most part, a very comprehensive compendium of the recorded work of many important recording artists, our boys included. I thought you might like to know what comprises the TMBG entry. Coming right in between Therapy? and Thin Lizzy, the entry reads: They Might Be Giants, formed 1984 in Brooklyn, New York John Linnell, accordion, keyboards, vocals; John Flansburgh, guitar, bass, vocals; Tony Maimone, bass (1992 - 1995); Brian Doherty, drums (1992-present); Graham Maby, bass (1996-present); Eric Schermerhorn, guitar (1996-present) Quirky doesn't even begin to describe the manic inventions of They Might Be Giants. The band started out as a cabaret-style duo, deconstructing pop songs with accordion breaks, witty, hyper- referential lyrics and a gift for melody that kept them from lapsing into mere parody. After a couple of well-regarded indie albums, the group signed with Elektra and became increasingly adventuresome (and mature) in its approach. By 1992 the original duo had fleshed out the group, adding Pere Ubu alum Maimone and drummer Doherty to the fold. Linnell and Flansburgh took time off to pursue solo projects during the mid-90s, while a Giants collection called Superfueled Freaksicle, meanwhile, was slated for release during 1997. Some listeners will find the group's penchant for the absurd - not to mention its generally nasal, geeky vocals - insurmountable. But those with a disposition for silliness will be in hog heaven. And its melodies are often surprisingly moving; thus the paradoxical experience of weeping to a song that goes "Have a nice day/You want it when?" (from Lincoln's Snowball In Hell). WHAT TO BUY: Apollo 18 is a startling, sprawling collection. In addition to a fine array of typically warped compositions, there are microscopic song fragments called "Fingertips" designed to take full advantage of your CD player's "shuffle" mode. WHAT TO BUY NEXT: Purists generally prefer the earlier and less slick Lincoln which boasts the mind-bogglingly great Ana Ng. WHAT TO AVOID: If you have to avoid one (and don't!) put John Henry at the bottom of your Giants shopping list. It isn't quite as strong as their other work, though it does contain a handful of splendid tracks. WORTH SEARCHING FOR: Don't Let's Start, a 1989 British rarities compilation that features a few gems from B sides and other sources. THEY HAVE INFLUENCED: Ben Folds Five, The Negro Problem, Barenaked Ladies THEY ARE INFLUENCED BY: Tin Pan Alley, the Beatles, the Beach Boys, Burt Bacharach, Monty Python, Spinal Tap, Frank Zappa, the dBs. --end of entry-- Well, I won't even get into the whole Superfueled Freaksicle thing, but I will make a few points. Somehow it always seems that even when someone sings TMBG's praises, it always comes off as a little condescending or apologetic or mildly insulting. Obviously this guy really likes them, as he gushes often as to their excellence, yet still makes them sound as if they are more often silly than not, more a novelty act than not, and that one should be shocked by the depth of many of their songs. I for one, though, have never weeped to Snowball In Hell. However, he redeems himself by suggesting that you ought not to pass on owning any of their records, and by praising Ana Ng so eloquently. Of course I bet that in future editions he'll probably rank Factory Showroom as "weakest" album, as FS truly is the weakest in my opinion while slamming JH has become so popular that I simply reject further criticism in that vein. (I should say that when I say weakest, I mean FS is the weakest on a scale of excellence, making it excellent, but not as excellent as other TMBG records). I also thought at first that his research was pretty good, as evidenced by the Superfueled reference, but then his mention of the DLS compilation, though obscure in North America, is I feel redundant as in 1991 this album was released, with one additional song, as Miscellaneous T, making Misc T the cheaper, more complete, and more widely available version of the same album. So this might be an example of the "ain't I cool since I mentioned this rare album" syndrome. And I really do believe that it is unfair to the band to limit its audience to those who have a "disposition for silliness". I like a good time as much as the next fat bastard, but I prefer to think that TMBG's fans are comprised of people who simply like good music. Apparently being funny in a pop context is some sort of liability to be explained away. But anyway I'm not sure ultimately how much credence I lend to this man's general opinion about music as he claims that Blur's Modern Life Is Rubbish is a disaster to be avoided and I think it's one of the seminal albums of the 1990's. Nevertheless, through all this he likes and recommends the music of TMBG and that cannot be disputed. Hell, later on he calls Ween's God Ween Satan "a work of near genius". What can one make of all this? I urge all of you to contrast and compare, to comment, question, criticise. Added bonus question (the answer to which I learned from this book): What is the name of the ultra-rare FIRST Ween album? (And where can I get it!!!) MIKe *TMBG Info Club ID No: 18902* THE COOLEST PLACE TO BE - Mr Flippy's Red Light Funtime Party Hour --->http://www.yucc.yorku.ca/~flippy<--- Playground Justice in effect at www.journalx.com, if you dare ________________________________________________________________ "If you really want to hurt your parents and you don't have nerve enough to be homosexual, the least you can do is go into the arts." --Kurt Vonnegut ------------------------------ End of tmbg-list Digest #6-14 *****************************