Errors-To: owner-tmbg-digest@tmbg.org Reply-To: tmbg-digest@tmbg.org Sender: owner-tmbg-digest@tmbg.org Precedence: bulk From: owner-tmbg-digest@tmbg.org To: tmbg-digest@tmbg.org Subject: tmbg-list Digest #8-7 tmbg-list Digest, Volume 8, Number 7 Tuesday, 7 July 1998 Today's Topics: Re: Non-TMBG: Teenage Girls defining popularity Re: TMBG: tmbg: aussie import JH Re: Non-TMBG: Stop whining Re: Non-TMBG: Stop whining Re: TMBG: Re: What if? TMBG:Age Re: TMBG:Age NONTMBG: Other Lists TMBG: Chat Room Re: TMBG:Age Re: TMBG: On topic: Off topic Re: TMBG: VH1: A-Z, Geography, Howard the Duck, and other Re: TMBG:Age Re: TMBG: 2 more mp3s up Re: TMBG: Chat Room Re: TMBG: Chat Room Re: TMBG: What if...& Non-TMBG: the STATE Re: Subject: TMBG: What if... Re: TMBG: Dirt Bike Sucks & The Rev Gets Vicious TMBG: John Linnell Re: TMBG: John Linnell Re: TMBG: Dirt Bike Sucks & The Rev Gets Vicious TMBG: NPR TMBG: story Semi-TMBG: Age Re: TMBG: Dirt Bike Sucks & The Rev Gets Vicious Re: Semi-TMBG: Age TMBG: fix for garbled mp3s TMBG: All Hail Partical Man Re: TMBG: John Linnell Re: TMBG: All Hail Partical Man Re: TMBG: All Hail Partical Man Re: TMBG: All Hail Partical Man Re: TMBG: All Hail Partical Man Re: TMBG: NPR TMBG: Theme From Flood 4.0 Non-TMBG: The F word (was All Hail Partical Man) Re: TMBG: On topic: Off topic Re: Non-TMBG: The F word (was All Hail Partical Man) Re: Non-TMBG: The F word (was All Hail Partical Man) TMBG: Dial-A-Song Re: TMBG: Dial-A-Song Re:Non-TMBG: Hitler Re: TMBG: Bad Words (was The F word) TMBG: vh1 & "I Need Some Lovin" Re: TMBG: vh1 & "I Need Some Lovin" TMBG: Mono Puff single? TMBG: The New Dan Administrivia: If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing send mail to tmbg-digest-request@tmbg.org for instructions on how to be automatically removed. --------------------------------------------------------------------- The views expressed herein are those of the individual authors. --------------------------------------------------------------------- tmbg-list is digested with Digest 3.5b (John Relph ). ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 3 Jul 1998 21:44:09 -0700 (PDT) From: leonard helfgott Subject: Re: Non-TMBG: Teenage Girls defining popularity Message-ID: true, but in the circle of 15 year old girls that I am associated with, their age seems to be the only thing keeping them from stardom. Everyone I've played them for loves them (I know, some of you know people who don't like them) Cap'n Helfgott ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 4 Jul 1998 00:01:42 -0500 (CDT) From: Bill Tatalovich Subject: Re: TMBG: tmbg: aussie import JH Message-ID: On Fri, 3 Jul 1998, Adam Tyner wrote: > "She's An Angel" - I wonder if this is what the Pink version was supposed > to sound like, with the accordion bass... Very nifty...this exact version > (well, it might be remixed or whatever) is also going to be on STD. They talked about this song before they played it at one of the shows I've been to (I forget which one). But anyway, Linnell said that the live version is much closer to how they imagined the track to be. They said that when they recorded it for the self-titled album, they put the synth bass on until they could get around to recording the accordian bass for it. Then they forgot about it... > "Ana Ng" - I've always hated Ana Ng live, mostly because I like having the > focus on the guitar, not the accordion or keyboards. The drum intro with > Flansie's "the sound of the drums...I hear the drums!" is somewhat > frightening. The best version of "Ana Ng" that I ever heard live was in May of 1996, at Bogart's in Cincinnati (I luckily later found a good boot of the song, so it's immortalized). I must admit I love this song in general, but this live version (in which whoever was drumming for Them at the time used a ride cymbal during the chorus, which I thought brought a whole new sound to that specific part of the song) absolutely blew me away. > "Twistin'" - I really like this...I hate the tinny, teeth-grating keyboards > in it, but everything else about it is wonderful. This is on a completely different note (uh oh! warn the off-topic police!), but Guided by Voices (any other fans of them on here) have a good song that does nothing but annoy me in live versions. The song "I Am a Tree" (on their newest album) contains a single lead guitar note played over and over for the majority of the song...eventually you just want to shoot Doug Gilliard (the guitarist who plays it...or played it. i'm not sure he's still in the band) just to make the noise stop. If you haven't heard Guided by Voices, I think a lot of people on here would like them. I have a special place in my heart for these guys, seeing as how they're from my hometown (Dayton, Ohio), but they have gotten such incredible press considering how they're still relatively unknown. Anyway...tried to keep this post vaguely on-topic, but whatever.... The Rev |~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| | Reverend Bill Tatalovich | | | | wt3@cec.wustl.edu | | personnel@kwur.wustl.edu | | | | Visit feedback for toddlers! | | http://students.cec.wustl.edu/~wt3/ | ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 4 Jul 1998 00:05:40 -0500 (CDT) From: Bill Tatalovich Subject: Re: Non-TMBG: Stop whining Message-ID: On Fri, 3 Jul 1998, Mitchell Harding wrote: > I'm on a number of moderated lists, and I don't consider they stagnant at > all. I find them much better than the TMBG list, in general. The one > possible problem with moderation, however, is that it requires a moderator > who has enough time to devote to the task. Otherwise it slows the list > terribly. But if the moderator has sufficient time, I've never found > moderation to be a bad thing. Right. This is one of the points to the anti-moderation argument (which I seem to have become the primary voice for). There is not anyone (at least anyone who has spoken up) who wants to put forth that much time to do it all. I was beginning to consider volunteering for it, but sorry folks...I just got a job. Again, despite all my arguments, if there is someone on this list who has the time and the inclination (and you need a WHOLE LOT of both for this to happen for longer than a week) to moderate, more power to them. Then we can test the theory, and see if it works. Waiting for someone to raise their hand, The Rev |~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| | Reverend Bill Tatalovich | | | | wt3@cec.wustl.edu | | personnel@kwur.wustl.edu | | | | Visit feedback for toddlers! | | http://students.cec.wustl.edu/~wt3/ | ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Jul 1998 22:16:17 -0700 (PDT) From: leonard helfgott Subject: Re: Non-TMBG: Stop whining Message-ID: I'll moderate, after all, I do read every message anyway, although I'm not quite sure how to set it up, or if everyone out there wants me as their moderator, since I might let a couple NON TMBG messages through. So long, from the Cap'n Cap'n Helfgott ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 4 Jul 1998 00:18:08 -0500 (CDT) From: Bill Tatalovich Subject: Re: TMBG: Re: What if? Message-ID: On Fri, 3 Jul 1998, Adam Tyner wrote: > I'm not even going to mention the Magical > Armchair, because I think there are a number of people here that are on > that list, and everyone knows how much _that_ list sucks. Oh yeah. Speaking as a member of the Armchair from back in the days when it was self-compiled by Frank Maynard, that list is pretty horrible (or was when I was last on it, about a year ago...I've heard it's just as bad, though). Before the Ben Folds Five had any airplay at all, and the Magical Armchair was compiled daily by Frank Maynard and sent out each night as a digest (my only digest list, and the one that made me hate them), there were about 70-80 people on the list, all of whom were hardcore fans. No problems on that list at all. Then they started getting a little airplay, and then a lot, and then the list was clogged with, well, crap. I'm glad I've left it. > TMBG-list is pretty darn cool for the most part compared with the other > lists I'm on, but that's just MHO. A lot of a list's persona depends on the kinds of people who listen to the music. I'm on a few lists, all of which have really different kinds of people on them. There's the Connells list (which was dead until about a month before their latest album was released, and now there's a lot of traffic from REALLY hardcore Connells fans, most of whom are from the southeast), the Moby list (with a whole lot of ravers, DJs, those kinds of folks...very nice list, but I'm a bit lost sometimes), the Sugar/Bob Mould list (which is very very mature, no one really complains about posts, there's no flaming....great list), and the Innocence Mission list (which gets, at best, one post a month). So it all depends. Jesus, I'm wordy today.... The Rev |~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| | Reverend Bill Tatalovich | | | | wt3@cec.wustl.edu | | personnel@kwur.wustl.edu | | | | Visit feedback for toddlers! | | http://students.cec.wustl.edu/~wt3/ | ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------ From: gray42@juno.com Date: Sat, 4 Jul 1998 01:18:59 -0400 Subject: TMBG:Age Message-ID: <19980704.011919.3382.1.gray42@juno.com> Waitaminit, to all the folks saying that the Johns couldn't make their way into a 13-16 year old heart because they are so old, that's not nesecarily(sp?) true. (1) Back in the day, I was admittedly on a Jeff Goldblum list, with yes, girls ranging from 13 to 40, where 50% of the topics were about how hot he is, and other general worship. Jeff Goldblum is at least 7+ years older than either John. (2) The Johns are both very young looking for their ages. If it weren't for this list, I'd be easily fooled about their ages. I'd say early 30's. (3) The Johns are NOT yet in their 40's, they are STILL in their 30's. They haven't even half lived yet. They'll probably make music of some form for a very long time (5) People no longer need models or surgery, WE NOW HAVE COMPUTER TOUCH UPS :P That's how most models in magazines acheive their impossible shapes, not that the John's need any computer help :) Mysterio Gal (That is all I have to say [lucky you]) "ME NO LIKE HAMBURGER, ME WANT PEANUTBUTTER, ACTUALLY ME HATE PEANUTBUTTER TOO! ME JUST WANT HAIR!" -- Claire Monster (fully equipped with extremely loud keyboard and monster voice) ICQ# 9585405 MST3K#88182 gray42@juno.com http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Coffeehouse/4871 The Official Project Omicrom website: www.geocities.com/SoHo/Square/9007 _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Jul 1998 22:46:45 -0700 (PDT) From: leonard helfgott Subject: Re: TMBG:Age Message-ID: if they're not in their 40's, then explain why John Linnell's 40th birthday was last year. Cap'n Helfgott ------------------------------ From: CajunGram@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sat, 4 Jul 1998 01:49:10 EDT Subject: NONTMBG: Other Lists Yeah, this list is pretty good compared to some of the ones I've been one. I'm on the Soul Coughing list and I get maybe 1 post a week. Myabe it will pick up when El Oso comes out... Graham ------------------------------ Message-ID: <19980704055340.20624.qmail@hotmail.com> From: "Jason F." Subject: TMBG: Chat Room Date: Fri, 03 Jul 1998 22:53:39 PDT Anyone who hasn't been to the chat room at tmbg.com is highly encouraged by me to do so...it's really addicive. I planned on just checking it out, seeing what it was like, and ended up running into some listees and staying on for hours. There's a box where you can put in a profile for other people to see. We should come up with something (tmbg-list, perhaps?) to put in the profile so we listees can spot each other out. Oh, and what about this nasty rumor that the Johns will be in the chat room on Monday? Didn't know anything about it until everyone else in the chat room was insisting it's "official". Oh well. I still don't believe them. --Jason-- "Hot Cha, where are you? Everybody's eyes are closed." -They Might Be Giants ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ From: KdsInThHal@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sat, 4 Jul 1998 01:54:43 EDT Subject: Re: Re: TMBG:Age In a message dated 7/4/98 1:48:56 AM, helfgott@cc.wwu.edu wrote: >if they're not in their 40's, then explain why John Linnell's 40th >birthday was last year. simple. it wasn't. he turned 39 last month. *sarah ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 4 Jul 1998 00:56:22 -0500 (CDT) From: Bill Tatalovich Subject: Re: TMBG: On topic: Off topic Message-ID: On Fri, 3 Jul 1998, Bongo wrote: > How dare you you say this isn't the list I'm > looking for just because you and your inconsiderate friends > blatantly disregard the rules of the list. Did you happen to > notice the following (posted every two week):"IMPORTANT > IMPORTANT IMPORTANT IMPORTANT IMPORTANT Okay, we're inconsiderate. We don't consider the minority of people on this list (and those anti-off-topic folks ARE a minority, as is shown from the sheer amount of people who regularly post, or chime in, on off-topic posts) who don't like off-topic posts. So, regardless of what the administrativa says, people post off-topic things. That's just a reality. You can't FORCE people to only post TMBG-related topics on here. Yes, you can keep those posts from getting through (if Mr. Helfgott, who volunteered to moderate, wants to, I suggest he e-mail Leo and let him know), but as of now that isn't happening. So, at least for now, deal with it. Just delete the off-topic posts, or if you're on digest, scroll past them. Sadly or not, off-topic posts are on this list all the time. We can't change that right now. So in effect, this isn't the list you're looking for if all you ever want is on-topic posts. That's just the reality, regardless of the intentions of the list. I'll be the first to apologize amonst the off-topic posters, but I sure as hell am not going to stop. I like this list the way it is. Hoping he made a bit of sense, The Rev |~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| | Reverend Bill Tatalovich | | | | wt3@cec.wustl.edu | | personnel@kwur.wustl.edu | | | | Visit feedback for toddlers! | | http://students.cec.wustl.edu/~wt3/ | ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------ From: gray42@juno.com Date: Sat, 4 Jul 1998 01:37:24 -0400 Subject: Re: TMBG: VH1: A-Z, Geography, Howard the Duck, and other Message-ID: <19980704.014118.3382.2.gray42@juno.com> On Sat, 4 Jul 98 00:01 EDT kbrodbec@remcen.ehhs.cmich.edu (Kirsten Brodbeck) writes: > Oooh, and to combine posts, I FINALLY got IFTS today! I love >this >album - I listened to it about six times. Golly jeepers gee, >Unsupervised >pales in comparison. "Extra Krispy" is *awesome*, "Pretty Fly" is >eerie, >and "It's Fun to Steal" is just all-around neat. My only complaint is >that I still like the version of "Imaginary Friend" (AKA "Felt Tip >Pen") >that they played on NPR two years ago, with the trombones, a little >better. But oh well... > >Kirsten Oh Yes, Isn't it hard to stop listening to. I've been listening to it non stop since I've gotten it. I'm beginning to get scared that I'm listening to it way to much. I've been playing it for my parents, they enjoyed it, but they also called it Goofy. I played it for a friend who is all about the 70's, she wants a copy. I played it for a SubGenius friend who loves Negativland and is indiffertent towards TMBG, he also wants a copy. Yes! Yes1 Conversions left and right. Applaud me (though you don't really have to) Mysterio Gal (fellow funk lubber) "ME NO LIKE HAMBURGER, ME WANT PEANUTBUTTER, ACTUALLY ME HATE PEANUTBUTTER TOO! ME JUST WANT HAIR!" -- Claire Monster (fully equipped with extremely loud keyboard and monster voice) ICQ# 9585405 MST3K#88182 gray42@juno.com http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Coffeehouse/4871 The Official Project Omicrom website: www.geocities.com/SoHo/Square/9007 _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ From: MsTanbul@aol.com Message-ID: <67593034.359dc60b@aol.com> Date: Sat, 4 Jul 1998 02:04:58 EDT Subject: Re: TMBG:Age What does their age matter anyway? They've been making good music for years, its true.... and though the music changes, it isn't like they're abandoning things from their younger days. I was 14 when I became a TMBG fan, but I have converted others from age 12 to others well into their 40's. Someone complained to me a while ago that they didn't want to go to another tmbg all ages show because of all the "kids" there.... but their 21+ shows fill up too. And I think that its cool to see kids of all ages (some of them parents) there enjoying the Johns, who still put on a great show no matter what their age. Sorry if this made no sense. They're older than they've ever been and now they're even older... Marianne ps. and now they're even older ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 4 Jul 1998 02:45:11 -0400 (EDT) From: Jish Subject: Re: TMBG: 2 more mp3s up Message-ID: A bunch of people have asked me about this. Yea I had about 200 megs of mp3s up but my computer isn't in the dorm connected to the network anymore. I am working on getting a similar setup again...all the mp3s still exist...I just need somewhere to put them Jish On Fri, 3 Jul 1998, Jeff Parker wrote: > > Are you the one that put all of the songs from Dr. Spock's on your > website a > while back? If you are, is there any chance you might put them back up > again? > I didn't get a chance to get them all and I've felt incomplete ever > since... PLEASE > put them back up... if you get the chance... no hurry... :) > > That's it... > > v^v Jeffro v^v > > _____________________________________________________________________ > You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. > Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com > Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] > ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 4 Jul 1998 03:09:28 -0400 (EDT) From: Jish Subject: Re: TMBG: Chat Room Message-ID: I would just like to remind people that there is a very well-populated IRC channel devoted to TMBG on EFnet IRC. Check it out :) EFnet #TMBG Home Page http://www.andrew.cmu.edu/~axelrad/ all the info on how to join can be found there...and IRC has a lot more cool features than java chat :) Jish On Fri, 3 Jul 1998, Jason F. wrote: > Anyone who hasn't been to the chat room at tmbg.com is highly encouraged > by me to do so...it's really addicive. I planned on just checking it > out, seeing what it was like, and ended up running into some listees and > staying on for hours. There's a box where you can put in a profile for > other people to see. We should come up with something (tmbg-list, > perhaps?) to put in the profile so we listees can spot each other out. > > Oh, and what about this nasty rumor that the Johns will be in the chat > room on Monday? Didn't know anything about it until everyone else in the > chat room was insisting it's "official". Oh well. I still don't believe > them. > > > > --Jason-- > > "Hot Cha, where are you? Everybody's eyes are closed." > -They Might Be Giants > > ______________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 4 Jul 1998 00:32:57 -0700 (PDT) From: leonard helfgott Subject: Re: TMBG: Chat Room Message-ID: The last time I was on IRC, I couldn't get to EFNet for some weird reason, because usually, your channell is the only one I go to. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 4 Jul 1998 00:09:43 -0500 (CDT) From: Bill Tatalovich Subject: Re: TMBG: What if...& Non-TMBG: the STATE Message-ID: On Fri, 3 Jul 1998 HallOfEyes@aol.com wrote: > Nooo...first of all, MTV did NOT cancel The State...The State left MTV, > because they did not want to be "MTV's The State", rather their own comedy > troupe. Yep. The State actually left MTV for ABC (I believe). ABC offerred the State a whole lot of money, and a time slot to rival Saturday Night Live, so the State jumped at the chance. The problem was that ABC decided not to have any promotion (well, aside from two or three commercials, which I for one never saw) for this new-and-improved State. Thus, when their first show came and went, no one watched it. ABC then dropped the State, and suddenly they had nowhere to show their sketches. Damn shame, that. I loved that show. "You're Principal Wheeler. You have a moustache and smell like coffee, two great tastes that taste weird together..." Still unable to get that hormone sketch out of his head when he's on a date, The Rev |~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| | Reverend Bill Tatalovich | | | | wt3@cec.wustl.edu | | personnel@kwur.wustl.edu | | | | Visit feedback for toddlers! | | http://students.cec.wustl.edu/~wt3/ | ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------ Message-ID: <359E4369.FBADC064@pacificnet.net> Date: Sat, 04 Jul 1998 07:00:01 -0800 From: Bongo Subject: Re: Subject: TMBG: What if... > From: MatFoley99@aol.com > Message-ID: <15312bef.359b2637@aol.com> > Date: Thu, 2 Jul 1998 02:18:30 EDT > Subject: TMBG: What if... > > What if STD makes it big? If this Dr Worm video does happen, then say it made > it's way onto MTV and became a smash hit, would you like that? Severe Tire > Damage goes Platinum, and They Might Be Giants is the newest craze. People > flood (yes, I see the pun) the stores to buy anything and everything related > to TMBG, what would you think? > I always wonder that ever time they have a new album out but on a more realistic scale. I know they aren't going to be a "craze" but I wonder what it would be like for them to have another minor hit. I don't think they will. Suppose (for some unknown reason) commercial alternative radio stations gave Dr. Worm massive airplay. I'm sure plenty of people would love the song and many of those would buy the album. However, I already know that won't happen. The reason is commercial alternative radio stations think the public in general, are closed-minded idiots. TMBG's sound isn't the kind that is ALREADY hot, so they won't touch it. Right now, witty, off -beat pop isn't in. As for whether a hit record would be good or bad for us as long time fans, I think it would be *very good*. For one reason, it would mean more videos, more singles and tours that extend beyond than the East Coast. -B O N G O [Attachment omitted, unknown MIME type or encoding (text/html)] ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 04 Jul 1998 10:43:27 +0000 From: Chris Combs Subject: Re: TMBG: Dirt Bike Sucks & The Rev Gets Vicious Message-id: <3.0.5.16.19980704104327.469f81b0@entropy.muc.muohio.edu> >After all the Particle Man talk, I thought I'd voice my opinion about a song >from John Henry that most people seem to adore, but I've always thought of >as lame: Dirt Bike. The song is too slow and the lyrics are ridiculous. >I've never really been able to get into it. I'll tell you what. Try this little experiment and see if you suddenly adore the song. Sing along, but instead of saying "dirt bike" say "third reich." It's quite interesting. If you don't like the song after this, then I can only forfeit any semblance of peacemaker. /---------------------------------------------------------------\ | Chris Combs aka "It falls upon the living | | Piglet Goat Boy to live among the dead" | | http://muc.muohio.edu/~goatboy/ -Brian Dewan | \---------------------------------------------------------------/ ------------------------------ From: Shoodoo@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sat, 4 Jul 1998 10:48:30 EDT Subject: TMBG: John Linnell Yesterday I attended WHTG's surfstock festival in Ortley Beach, NJ, and TMBG played an awesome 45 minute set. After the show my friends and I waited outside for TMBG. We missed Flans but got to see Dan and Dan, the drummer and the bassist, and Linnell. I know Linnell is usually "the mean one", as he said to up, but he stopped to sign a few autographs and take a couple pictures. My friend said that John usually signs "John Sid" or just "John" but when he signed my setlist the autograph read "John Linnell". I'd like to know if anyone has ever seen an autograph that reads John Linnell! Thanks! --- Shannon ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 4 Jul 1998 10:21:05 -0500 (CDT) From: Bill Tatalovich Subject: Re: TMBG: John Linnell Message-ID: On Sat, 4 Jul 1998 Shoodoo@aol.com wrote: > I know Linnell is usually "the mean one", as he said > to up, but he stopped to sign a few autographs and take a couple pictures. Yeah, I heard that a lot as well, and believed it the first couple of times I saw Them play live. But then, after he got married, he seemed to be more at ease with the crowd, and more likely to stick around and chat. My friend insisted it was because he was, um, getting some, but who knows? Am I the only one who noticed this difference in the pre-marital vs. post-marital John Linnell? running on fumes, the Rev |~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| | Reverend Bill Tatalovich | | | | wt3@cec.wustl.edu | | personnel@kwur.wustl.edu | | | | Visit feedback for toddlers! | | http://students.cec.wustl.edu/~wt3/ | ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 4 Jul 1998 10:22:42 -0500 (CDT) From: Bill Tatalovich Subject: Re: TMBG: Dirt Bike Sucks & The Rev Gets Vicious Message-ID: On Sat, 4 Jul 1998, Chris Combs wrote: > I'll tell you what. Try this little experiment and see if you suddenly > adore the song. Sing along, but instead of saying "dirt bike" say "third > reich." It's quite interesting. If you don't like the song after this, > then I can only forfeit any semblance of peacemaker. Now, I'm a fan of "Dirt Bike", but this idea of Chris's, well, it makes it even better in my opinion. Great idea. Brings a whole new meaning to the entire song, actually.... Making a concerted effort to keep the posts down, but with this much caffeine, it ain't really possible... the Rev |~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| | Reverend Bill Tatalovich | | | | wt3@cec.wustl.edu | | personnel@kwur.wustl.edu | | | | Visit feedback for toddlers! | | http://students.cec.wustl.edu/~wt3/ | ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------ Subject: TMBG: NPR Message-ID: <19980703.184953.4687.1.winningh@juno.com> From: winningh@juno.com (Winningham S. Sarah) Date: Sat, 04 Jul 1998 18:48:03 EDT Hey, NPR San Diego just played She's Actual Size Sarah "Prostrate Atop A Crimson Tide" Winningham _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 4 Jul 1998 20:31:07 -0400 Subject: TMBG: story Message-ID: <19980704.203108.16174.0.tmbgmail-bin@juno.com> From: tmbgmail-bin@juno.com (Evan R Kleve) Many of you may remember me. I've been a big poster to this list in the past. I've been taking leaves from the list for months at a time. Now I'm back again. HELLO EVERYBODY OUT THERE!!!! I've been a very bad student in school over the years, so now I'm paying the price. Yes, ladies and gentlemen, I'm taking an English class in summer school. And, for the first time in years, I'm actually applying myself. One of our assignments was to write a short story. So of course I wrote a story about tmbg. I didn't expect to get so involved with it when I started writing it, but I ended up with a masterpiece. My teacher was extremely impressed (to the point where she didn't even believe that I wrote it) and she said I should consider submitting it to publication. Now I wanted to share it with all of you. This is a very sad story. And, believe it or not, it is completely true. A few months back there was a thread on the list inquiring how each of us got into tmbg. This story explains it for me. The main character in this story is Mike. Yes, I named him Mike, but in actuality, Mike is myself. This is a work of non-fiction. I hope that, by reading it, you can experience the same good and bad emotions that I went through. #$^@#%^$#^*#%^*%$^*%$&^*$%^&#$%^#$%&$^&*%#&%^&@#$%&^$#%&#$^*&#%^*$%^* The Band Evan Kleve Mike could not sleep. It was one of those nights that seem to last forever. Nights were always like that when he was looking forward to something. All of the stretching in the world could not comfort his legs and back. He had been tossing and turning for three and a half hours now. Tomorrow he would see his favorite band in concert, They Might Be Giants. The music of They Might Be Giants was definitely an acquired taste. He tried constantly to turn his friends on to it, but was rarely successful. And it was very insulting to him when people criticized them and said things like "this band sucks" or "how can you listen to this garbage?" Things like that made all avid They Might Be Giants fans angry. Nevertheless, it took special circumstances for Mike, himself, to give it a chance. Mike laid in his bed. He couldn't believe he was already going to be a senior in high school. When sleep finally did arrive, all of the events from seventh grade came flooding back in his dream. ************************************************ He was there again. Yes, there he was, talking to his closest friend, Laura, who was two years older than him, as if nothing had ever happened. She was as boisterous and happy as she always had acted, a huge ball of perpetual energy. Nothing in the world could keep her still. Even as she talked or explained anything, she had to move around physically, sometimes even go as far as to jump up and down. That was why her friends loved her, and what made her so interesting to Mike. He loved listening to her or watching her play the piano, her black hair hanging down as she concentrated with fierce precision. It was very amusing to everybody that Laura could not concentrate on playing the piano and breathing at the same time, and her breath would come out in short, harsh gasps. Laura and Mike lived in different towns, so they wrote to each other and exchanged letters every week when she came over to take piano lessons from Mike's mother. Laura constantly talked about this band called They Might Be Giants, and it all seemed very strange to Mike. Laura was obsessed with them. She would always sing odd-sounding songs, quote strange lyrics, and talk about how she and her friends love them so much. It all eventually piqued Mike's curiosity. The next time Mike was at a record store, he bought an album by They Might Be Giants called "Apollo 18." On the cover was a huge squid, its powerful tentacles wrapped around a terrorized whale. The background was completely black except for a small Apollo space craft. It all looked very interesting. When he got home, he was very anxious to hear what They Might Be Giants really was. He ended up very disappointed. These songs didn't sound like something somebody would love to listen to. It sounded to him more like a collection of light children's songs. He couldn't understand why anybody would be so passionate over these simple melodies. The next week, Mike watched Laura read the letter he had written her. The first sentence was as follows: I bought Apollo 18 by They Might Be Giants. Laura's face lit up. "Oh, cool!" she shouted, jumping up and down. But then she read on. It sucks. I honestly don't know how you could like it so much. It sounds like music for little kids. She looked as if she was just slapped in the face. Mike had never seen such disappointment. He was puzzled as to why it meant so much to her. "Apollo 18" went under Mike's bed that day, and Did not re-emerge for a long, long time. November 4, 1993, changed Mike's life forever. In school he sat in study hall, bored, listening to the seconds tick by and fighting to stay awake. Just as he was about to drift off to sleep, his mother showed up. Very confused, he went out into the hall to talk to her. "Mike, Laura's parents called me this morning," she said. "She didn't show up to school and she's missing. I need you to tell me if you know anything, if she told you anything at all." Mike and his mother both knew that Laura told him everything. But he knew nothing about this. "No, Mom, I have no idea," he said. The rest of the day he could not concentrate on anything. He couldn't imagine what could have happened to his friend. He had never been faced with anything like this in his entire life. The ignorant mind of a seventh grader does not actually think about things like this being reality. When Mike got home that evening, his mother was downstairs. She had a weird look on her face, sympathetic and hurt at the same time, and it scared him. He could sense right away that something was wrong. "What, bad news?" he said, only half serious. "C'mere, honey," she said. He walked downstairs and his mother sat him down next to her. The first words that she spoke forever stood out in his mind. She choked on the words. "Honey, Laura killed herself." He didn't want the awful words to sink in, but they did and his whole innocent world came crashing down all at once. He immediately went delirious with pain and he cried "No! No! No!" over and over again. He didn't want his mother around to see him, but he buried his head in her shoulder anyway, and cried. Mike had a shoe-box full of Laura's vivid letters, and whenever he read them it was with she was with him again, seeming so alive she could never die. Two years had gone by. He was a freshman in high school now. It felt odd that he was now older than Laura was when she died. As Mike was exploring under his bed one day, he stumbled across the They Might Be Giants album again and he smiled because he remembered how enthusiastically Laura liked them. He felt an odd feeling come over him, almost supernatural, beckoning him to play the album again. He played it again and was instantaneously shocked that he could have ever thought bad things about it. These were real musicians! The amazing melodies and harmonies, geniously witty lyrics, the instrumentation, it all washed over him and he was bombarded with joy. He could not help but to laugh out loud while the musical orgasm consumed him. After the album was finished playing, Mike spoke out loud. "Laura, wherever you are, I'm sorry I ever told you this music was bad. I now see it, and I know how you must've felt when I put it down. What an idiot I was!" ************************************************ Mike awoke from his dream, glad that the night was finally over. He felt the unnerving morning sensation when a dream brings back very emotional flash-backs. He was now very excited to attend his seventh They Might Be Giants concert. He could always feel Laura with him while at those concerts. He feels sad that she could never see them in concert while she was alive. He knew she would be very proud of him. _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Subject: Semi-TMBG: Age Message-ID: <19980703.210322.4687.4.winningh@juno.com> From: winningh@juno.com (Winningham S. Sarah) Date: Sat, 04 Jul 1998 21:01:27 EDT I don't think age will deter the girlies if nothing else is keeping them back. The dreamy celebrity list I remained faithful to throughout my teenhood consisted of 6 men 15 years my senior to old enough to be grandfather. It never mattered to me or any of the girls I compared notes with. Sure they like the prepubescent novelties but only till their voices break (NKOTB, Edward Furlong, Etc; all cast aside) But the ones that become sex objects in their final mature state tend to remain desired even when there old and icky (Sean Connery, David Bowie, Mick Jagger for god's sake). Its part of the standard Bodice-Ripper format too; heroine's avg. age 18, hero's avg. age 35. Oh dear everytime I post more than a sentence it seems to be about sex, quit giving me them funny looks.... Sarah "Springtime for Hitler and Germany/ Winter for Poland and Hungary" Winningham _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 4 Jul 1998 19:02:35 -0700 (PDT) From: leonard helfgott Subject: Re: TMBG: Dirt Bike Sucks & The Rev Gets Vicious Message-ID: that's interesting, I think I'll try that, especially since i actually like the song. Cap'n Helfgott ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 4 Jul 1998 19:09:33 -0700 (PDT) From: leonard helfgott Subject: Re: Semi-TMBG: Age Message-ID: It's Winter For Poland And France, I've seen The Producers 19 times. Cap'n "my boots are torn, and my back is sore, I feel so bad 'cause we're losin the war" Helfgott ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 4 Jul 1998 23:21:21 -0400 (EDT) From: Jish Subject: TMBG: fix for garbled mp3s Message-ID: Just wanted to say that I put mp3 detox up on my page for people who d/l'd my mp3s in netscape and had them turn out garbled. It is cmu's fault :( Jish http://www.andrew.cmu.edu/~axelrad/ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 5 Jul 1998 00:39:17 -0400 Subject: TMBG: All Hail Partical Man Message-ID: <19980705.004454.3830.0.jonhuot@juno.com> From: jonhuot@juno.com (Jonathan P Huot) I have to say, in response to the allegations that songs like Partical Man, Ha Cha, Extra Saviour faire, O do not forsake me, and stomp box, are mere fillers for there albums, is ludicrous. These are the songs that make They Might Be Giants the fun loving band that they are. Any band can shell out the standard three minute song following pop guidelines, but it takes a special band to break the mold and get you thinking, with their incredibly intricate lyrics. I agree that these some of their lyrics are geeky, but again, this is what makes TMBG, TMBG. On an completely different note. I think referring to Severe Tire Damage, as STD is a little inappropriate. I mean, can you think of anything else that STD stands for? I for one will be writing out the entire title. Jon _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 5 Jul 1998 00:55:37 -0400 Subject: Re: TMBG: John Linnell Message-ID: <19980705.005538.11494.0.erda@juno.com> From: erda@juno.com (g loworm) >My friend said that John usually signs "John Sid" or just "John" but >when he >signed my setlist the autograph read "John Linnell". I'd like to know >if >anyone has ever seen an autograph that reads John Linnell! Thanks! i have a signed poster that says john shid linnell. that is not a typo there is an h there. i also have two signed tickets that are john sid linnell _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 4 Jul 1998 22:56:59 -0700 (PDT) From: leonard helfgott Subject: Re: TMBG: All Hail Partical Man Message-ID: about STD, I think that They intended for it to have the same first letterings, kind of like Van Halen did with their great album "For Unlawful Carnal Knowledge" Cap'n Helfgott ------------------------------ From: CajunGram@aol.com Message-ID: <548ec5ed.359f2102@aol.com> Date: Sun, 5 Jul 1998 02:45:21 EDT Subject: Re: TMBG: All Hail Partical Man In a message dated 98-07-05 02:04:08 EDT, you write: << kind of like Van Halen did with their great album "For Unlawful Carnal Knowledge" Cap'n Helfgott >> That was the loud sound of me slapping myself for never realizing that before it was so blatently laid out in front of me... Graham "He who didn't get the cream of some young guy joke from Wayne's World until my friend jeremy explained it to me (give me a break, i was in gradeschool)" amsden ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 5 Jul 1998 02:56:38 -0500 (CDT) From: Bill Tatalovich Subject: Re: TMBG: All Hail Partical Man Message-ID: On Sat, 4 Jul 1998, leonard helfgott wrote: > about STD, I think that They intended for it to have the same first > letterings, kind of like Van Halen did with their great album "For > Unlawful Carnal Knowledge" I never thought about that either...good point. To nitpick just a bit, though...."For Unlawful Carnal Knowledge" IS the original definition of the word fuck. It goes back years and years and years, to where women (I believe it was just women) could be tried "for unlawful carnal knowledge." It then turned into the acronym that we all know (and, in my case, overuse) today. Severe Tire Damage is obviously not the original definition of STD. Does that make sense? Any questions? Okay, class dismissed... The Rev |~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| | Reverend Bill Tatalovich | | | | wt3@cec.wustl.edu | | personnel@kwur.wustl.edu | | | | Visit feedback for toddlers! | | http://students.cec.wustl.edu/~wt3/ | ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------ From: MsTanbul@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sun, 5 Jul 1998 04:26:32 EDT Subject: Re: TMBG: All Hail Partical Man I agree that Severe Tire Damage was penned in such a way that it could be called STD. "I got an STD at Tower Records" now wouldn't that be fun? or "I got MY STD in the mail from CD Now" I did think it funny/odd (not ha ha) that Factory Showroom and Superfueled Freaksicle both had the initials FS but in other orders.... but of course the SF part was scrapped. I got Naked in a record store once. Marianne ------------------------------ From: MsTanbul@aol.com Message-ID: <85637eca.359f39a1@aol.com> Date: Sun, 5 Jul 1998 04:30:24 EDT Subject: Re: TMBG: NPR A local public radio show done by Harry Shearer (who does voices on the Simpsons among other things) often uses TMBG songs, just as the PRI show "This American Life." They use the songs to fit their themes in fact. I like listening to Public Radio..... on KCRW, the local NPR station, and KXLU, my college's station, I hear a lot of the more obscure TMBG songs as well as even Mono Puff from time to time. In fact, I bet that KXLU would play Brian Dewan or Lincoln if only I or someone asked. :-) ------------------------------ Message-Id: Date: Sun, 5 Jul 1998 10:07:13 -0600 From: Lex Friedman Subject: TMBG: Theme From Flood 4.0 started out a message with: *Ok, first of all, the stuffbody call "Filler Material." *Theme From Flood, & O Do Not Foresake Me: ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ As my still-gunky eyes scanned the messages in Digest form, I thought it read: "Theme From Flood 4.0." It got me thinking: What if TMBG had more Theme-esque album intros? [all to the tune of the "Theme From Flood."] The Pink Album: "This is our band's first big release We are a duo, buy this please You can give our songs much analysis We are not like Devo, or Eric Clapton So Rabid Children, please buy our album - yeah!" John Henry: "Well, we don't want to seem mean But we've ditched our drum machine We picked up more members and guitars So we're a bit louder, with longer song tracks Do Not Forsake us, buy John Henry now!" IFTS: "Okay, so this ain't TMBG The music's a bit more funky The Hidden Track keeps scarin' lots of folks But we've got John Flansburgh, without John Linnel Mono Puff is one hell of a good side band..." Hmm. Now maybe I see why They DIDN'T do that. -Lex ------------------------------ Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19980705095210.007f9c70@email.psu.edu> Date: Sun, 05 Jul 1998 09:52:10 -0400 From: "J. L. Moquin" Subject: Non-TMBG: The F word (was All Hail Partical Man) Bill Tatalovich wrote: [snip] >To nitpick just a bit, >though...."For Unlawful Carnal Knowledge" IS the original definition of >the word fuck. It goes back years and years and years, to where women (I >believe it was just women) could be tried "for unlawful carnal knowledge." >It then turned into the acronym that we all know (and, in my case, >overuse) today. [snip] Actually, I believe this is a myth. Webster's lists the etymology of fuck to be "akin to Dutch fokken to breed (cattle), Swedish dialect fokka to copulate". I've heard the "For Unlawful Carnal Knowledge" story many times, but never with any proof to back it up. Anybody has any, I'd be mildly interested in seeing it. Umm, to add some TMBG content, would anyone lose respect for them if they released a song with "fuck" in it? :) -jennifer, mommy to alice the bean, 8/15/97 UPDATED!! http://www.emprl.psu.edu/~anth/ mailto:jls5@psu.edu "My motto, as I live and learn, Is dig and be dug in return" -- Langston Hughes ------------------------------ Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19980705100042.007fe430@email.psu.edu> Date: Sun, 05 Jul 1998 10:00:42 -0400 From: "J. L. Moquin" Subject: Re: TMBG: On topic: Off topic Bongo wrote: > How dare you you say this isn't the list I'm looking for just >because you and your inconsiderate friends blatantly disregard the >rules of the list. [snip] Well, I thought that was a bit harsh. *shrug* I was just trying to give a different viewpoint on the idea... I meant, if no one wants to take on the onerous task of moderating that would be required to change this list from what it is and pretty much always has been (and I was here 3 years ago, and it was like it is now, and with the same cyclical "There's too much off-topic posting" threads, ta boot), then maybe those who don't like the state of the list should leave and start a new, TMBG-only list, or we can start another one and split the traffic... I'm not trying to start a "love it or leave it" faction here, I'm just trying to say, that would be the path of least resistance. Although, if Cap'n Helfgott is willing to moderate, then everything's all squared away anyway. Please don't flame me for this. It's merely a conversational suggestion, as I really don't personally have any emotional investment in the way this list runs. I don't mind the OT stuff, I just scan and delete what I don't care about. If the list goes to moderated, fine, that's more time I can spend playing with my daughter (who will be 1 in 41 days, *gasp*) instead of scanning and deleting... :) -jennifer, mommy to alice the bean, 8/15/97 UPDATED!! http://www.emprl.psu.edu/~anth/ mailto:jls5@psu.edu "My motto, as I live and learn, Is dig and be dug in return" -- Langston Hughes ------------------------------ Message-ID: <011601bda824$2d9265e0$2bc408d1@idiotnot.visi.net> From: "S. Bergeron" Subject: Re: Non-TMBG: The F word (was All Hail Partical Man) Date: Sun, 5 Jul 1998 10:49:51 -0400 -----Original Message----- From: J. L. Moquin To: Bill Tatalovich Cc: They Might Be the List Date: Sunday, July 05, 1998 10:15 AM Subject: Non-TMBG: The F word (was All Hail Partical Man) :Actually, I believe this is a myth. Webster's lists the etymology :of fuck to be "akin to Dutch fokken to breed (cattle), Swedish :dialect fokka to copulate". I've heard the "For Unlawful Carnal :Knowledge" story many times, but never with any proof to back it :up. Anybody has any, I'd be mildly interested in seeing it. You be right. The German version is ficken...you figger it out. The Plattdeutsch (An odd amalgamation of German and Dutch) version is....you guessed it foeck (pronouncee: fuuck). :Umm, to add some TMBG content, would anyone lose respect for :them if they released a song with "fuck" in it? :) Well...considering the amount of profanity they throw around on stage.... I suppose WDTSS has alternate lyrics with fuck. Linnell: "It's about ninety-three million miles away..." Heckler: "Bullshit!!!" Linnell: "Hey, fuck you, man." Jack Bergeron idiotnot@visi.net bluedawg@tmbg.org http://www.monopuff.org/~bluedawg "As the light changed from red to green to yellow and back to red again, I sat there thinking about life. Was it nothing more than a bunch of honking and yelling? Sometimes it seemed that way."--Jack Handy ICQ#5909618 ------------------------------ Message-Id: Date: Sun, 5 Jul 98 11:32 EDT From: kbrodbec@remcen.ehhs.cmich.edu (Kirsten Brodbeck) Subject: Re: Non-TMBG: The F word (was All Hail Partical Man) >Umm, to add some TMBG content, would anyone lose respect for >them if they released a song with "fuck" in it? :) My mother, probably, but as I've stated before, she doesn't demonstrate too much respect for them anyway. ;) I wouldn't really care; Flans says "fuck" a lot in concert, anyway.. Kirsten -- [][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][] "And she said losing love is like a window in your heart Everybody sees you're blown apart..." - Paul Simon "Graceland" Kirsten Brodbeck AKA Crow kbrodbec@remcen.ehhs.cmich.edu ------------------------------ From: Happyfroot@aol.com Message-ID: <66c65599.359fabc4@aol.com> Date: Sun, 5 Jul 1998 12:37:23 EDT Subject: TMBG: Dial-A-Song Ok, I'm sure many of you have checked out TMBG.COM & noticed that it says dialasong.com will be up in mid-july! Hooray! I'm wondering why the John's did this. Why didn't they just put their plans for dialasong.com at tmbg.com? I thought that domain names (usually, actually depending on the provider) have as much space as neccessary & why would a separate domain be needed? Unless dialasong.com is going to be so huge that the John's didn't want to put them in a small directory of tmbg.com. I also hear that Flans said it was going to use streaming audio - - I'm assuming Real Audio & he also said there's going to be bass now on some of the recording because of this great use of the Internet! & he also talked about how it's still free & how you are still technically dialing it up! jason "beholds the power of dial-a-song" glastetter http://www.poingly.com <~~~~the ad ------------------------------ Message-Id: Date: Sun, 5 Jul 1998 10:32:15 -0700 From: Bob Gonsalves Subject: Re: TMBG: Dial-A-Song >Ok, I'm sure many of you have checked out TMBG.COM & noticed that it says >dialasong.com will be up in mid-july! Hooray! I'm wondering why the John's did >this. Why didn't they just put their plans for dialasong.com at tmbg.com? Maybe it won't just be Them... ------------------------------ Subject: Re:Non-TMBG: Hitler Message-ID: <19980704.161142.4687.0.winningh@juno.com> From: winningh@juno.com (Winningham S. Sarah) Date: Sun, 05 Jul 1998 16:09:38 EDT On Sat, 4 Jul 1998 19:09:33 -0700 (PDT) leonard helfgott writes: >It's Winter For Poland And France, I've seen The Producers 19 times. >Cap'n "my boots are torn, and my back is sore, I feel so bad 'cause >we're >losin the war" Helfgott > > I know but I hate it when things that could so easily rhyme don't. Sarah "Don be stoopid be a smartie come'n join da Nazi party" Winningham _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ From: gray42@juno.com Date: Sun, 5 Jul 1998 15:53:21 -0400 Subject: Re: TMBG: Bad Words (was The F word) Message-ID: <19980705.155337.3302.1.gray42@juno.com> This message contains no refference to f*ck, but it does contain two TMBG stories relating to bad words. I was young when I first listened to TMBG, about 13, got most of the albums fairly quickly. When I got Apollo 18 I was shocked at their use of Son-Of-A-Bitch, in I Palindome I. I learned that it was bad to say words like Bitch, so whenever I listened to the song, it was the one bit I refused to sing aloud. But I've gotten over that, heck SOB is not as blasphemous as it was back in the days of 1993, at the age of 13. It was my first clue that TMBG wasn't soley for little kids. Once, in a group of children that were my age and older, I wanted to play Flood for the entire group, but the leader wouldn't let me because Racist Friend contained the word hypocrite, now that's severe. Hope you enjoyed my 2 *cute* stories :) Mysterio "used to be a goody-two-shoes" Gal (Have a hectic X-Day everybody, and don't forget to board the pleasure ships) "ME NO LIKE HAMBURGER, ME WANT PEANUTBUTTER, ACTUALLY ME HATE PEANUTBUTTER TOO! ME JUST WANT HAIR!" -- Claire Monster (fully equipped with extremely loud keyboard and monster voice) ICQ# 9585405 MST3K#88182 gray42@juno.com http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Coffeehouse/4871 The Official Project Omicrom website: www.geocities.com/SoHo/Square/9007 _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ From: KdsInThHal@aol.com Message-ID: <5947ea89.359fe54e@aol.com> Date: Sun, 5 Jul 1998 16:42:49 EDT Subject: TMBG: vh1 & "I Need Some Lovin" i've been watching this damn vh1 A-to-Z countdown (of course i fell asleep between rod stewart and tlc, so i wouldn't know if they played they; i wouldn't think they would until i saw them play violent femmes. hmm.. ah well i wasn't expecting tmbg to be on anyways) and they just played a video by the waitresses (?) called "I know what boys like" and it's the same exact tune as dial-a-song's "I need some lovin".. hmm... hoping they at least play some xtc, sarah~ http://lava.home.ml.org ------------------------------ Message-Id: Date: Sun, 5 Jul 1998 14:06:58 -0700 From: Bob Gonsalves Subject: Re: TMBG: vh1 & "I Need Some Lovin" >i wasn't expecting tmbg to be on anyways) and they just played a video by the >waitresses (?) called "I know what boys like" and it's the same exact tune as >dial-a-song's "I need some lovin".. hmm... Though I don't know about these tunes, there _is_ a connection. Chris Butler, who was in The Waitresses, had asked Flansy to contribute to his magnum opus "The Devil Glitch". (John didn't get it together, for whatever reason.) TDG is a 60+ minute rock song recorded in one take with 550 choruses, very silly stuff. CB also recorded some cylinders at the Edison Factory. ------------------------------ From: Happyfroot@aol.com Message-ID: <403cf69d.359ff7a3@aol.com> Date: Sun, 5 Jul 1998 18:01:06 EDT Subject: TMBG: Mono Puff single? Well, I was listening to the radio today & they announced that Mono Puff would be played tonight at 8:00 as part of the "First Contact" show, where they feature new artists by bands. This is a COMMERCIAL radio station (101.7 WFNX in Boston) so does this mean the new Mono Puff album has an official single? I hope so, I also hope for a single with some unreleased Mono Puff tracks (I can hope). Just thought the list (non-digesters, because by the time the digest gets this, it'll be Tuesday) would like to know. jason "i'm not gay! Not that there's anything wrong with that!" glastetter ------------------------------ Subject: TMBG: The New Dan Message-ID: <19980705.185958.2279.0.captainmarvel2@juno.com> From: captainmarvel2@juno.com (Derek A Klein) Date: Sun, 05 Jul 1998 19:01:09 EDT Does anybody know the last name of Dan, TMBG's new bass player? _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ End of tmbg-list Digest #8-7 ****************************