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tmbg-list Digest, Volume 54, Number 22
Saturday, 22 June 2002
Today's Topics:
TMBG: speaking of..
Re: TMBG: TMBG Dial Up Anniversary Anthology
Re: TMBG: TMBG Dial Up Anniversary Anthology
TMBG: TMBG Dial Up Anniversary Anthology
TMBG: DAS anthology
Re: TMBG: DAS anthology
Re: TMBG: TMBG Dial Up Anniversary Anthology
Re: TMBG: TMBG Dial Up Anniversary Anthology
TMBG: Son of the Return of "Dr. Spock's Back-Up Band"
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From: "Patty Castillo" <pahteeh@hotmail.com>
Subject: TMBG: speaking of..
Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2002 12:48:45 -0400
Message-ID: <F112mNaR2AY4RkMc5HT0000c102@hotmail.com>
answering machines, I have Minimum Wage on mine (not the whole song, though.
People would hang up before they ever heard the beep. I cut it off right
after the cracking of the whip.) Pointless, but I just thought I'd mention
it. :)
I had the first line of Older on
my answering machine for a long time, and I'd always get good or at least
amused comments about it.
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From: "Nathan Mulac DeHoff" <xornom@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: TMBG: TMBG Dial Up Anniversary Anthology
Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2002 17:53:38 +0000
Message-ID: <F234YsK4IXKlzKw8wrn00023db2@hotmail.com>
Jessie:
>overall: AGHHHH. why are they doing this? no one will buy it! it's targeted
>to non-fans, or very very casual fans (people that only know boss of me,
>floodies), and yet it's two discs, meaning that none of those people will
>buy
>it!
I'm not so sure about that. Rhino has been putting out compilations like
this for years, and they're apparently doing pretty well. I have no idea
whether anyone will buy it, but I don't think there's any way to predict
now.
Yes, I DO think this a severe waste of money for hardcore fans, so here's my
crazy suggestion: If you're a hardcore fan who already has all the albums,
DON'T BUY IT. Really, I think it would be worse if they had put more rare
tracks on something like this, because then people (probably including me)
would be complaining, "Why do we have to buy all this crap we already have
to get the rare stuff?" Now, a compilation of ALL rare stuff would be a
different story, but, well, that's not what this is.
As for the people who are saying, "Why didn't they include [insert song
title here]?", I do think there were some glaring omissions, especially from
the long-suffering John Henry. They should at least have included "Sleeping
In The Flowers" and "AKA Driver," since they were singles. Overall, though,
it's a fairly decent mix of the hits and the weirder stuff, and I don't know
that I wouldn't recommend it to a casual or prospective fan.
Nathan
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Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2002 19:40:17 +0100
From: "Richard Hilton" <RHILTON@BITC.ORG.UK>
Subject: Re: TMBG: TMBG Dial Up Anniversary Anthology
Well if we aren't able to "recommend it to a casual or prospective fan" then it's likely to get slammed by the critics - if they ever bother to review it. Which they probably won't!
Richard ~ England and USA both out of the World Cup but Wimbledon tennis starts Monday!
>>> "Nathan Mulac DeHoff" <xornom@hotmail.com> 21/06/02 18:53:38 >>>
Jessie:
>overall: AGHHHH. why are they doing this? no one will buy it! it's targeted
>to non-fans, or very very casual fans (people that only know boss of me,
>floodies), and yet it's two discs, meaning that none of those people will
>buy
>it!
I'm not so sure about that. Rhino has been putting out compilations like
this for years, and they're apparently doing pretty well. I have no idea
whether anyone will buy it, but I don't think there's any way to predict
now.
Yes, I DO think this a severe waste of money for hardcore fans, so here's my
crazy suggestion: If you're a hardcore fan who already has all the albums,
DON'T BUY IT. Really, I think it would be worse if they had put more rare
tracks on something like this, because then people (probably including me)
would be complaining, "Why do we have to buy all this crap we already have
to get the rare stuff?" Now, a compilation of ALL rare stuff would be a
different story, but, well, that's not what this is.
As for the people who are saying, "Why didn't they include [insert song
title here]?", I do think there were some glaring omissions, especially from
the long-suffering John Henry. They should at least have included "Sleeping
In The Flowers" and "AKA Driver," since they were singles. Overall, though,
it's a fairly decent mix of the hits and the weirder stuff, and I don't know
that I wouldn't recommend it to a casual or prospective fan.
Nathan
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From: "makebase" <makebase@tmbg.cc>
Subject: TMBG: TMBG Dial Up Anniversary Anthology
Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2002 15:17:37 -0400
From: Richard Hilton <RHILTON@bitc.org.uk>
>Well if we aren't able to "recommend it to a casual or prospective
>fan" then it's likely to get slammed by the critics - if they ever
>bother to review it. Which they probably won't!
No review is probably the most likely scenario. Entertainment
Weekly, in a writeup of upcoming summer CDs, breifly mentions TMBG
thusly:
"...perennial cutups THEY MIGHT BE GIANTS will take a break from
scoring TV shows long enough to release No! (June 11)..."
I would expect a similar blurb to be the most any major print source
would say about the DAS Anthology. Notice how they didn't even
mention No! was a children's album.
>Richard ~ England and USA both out of the World Cup but Wimbledon
>tennis starts Monday!
Tennis? Don't you mean--oh yeah, we call it tennis here too. Do
people mispronounce it WimbleTon there too? How annoying.
Shaun
TMBG Citizen of Utah
www.tmbg.cc
PS My two cents: I'm going to buy it. I'll find some purpose for
it. Also, I think some less fanatic friends of mine might buy it as
well, so I don't think we need to worry about how well it sells.
What does that matter to us anyway? Do you think if it bombs that
they'll stop producing records?
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Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2002 16:32:37 -0700 (PDT)
From: Nicole Carlson <nmcarlson@ucdavis.edu>
Subject: TMBG: DAS anthology
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.33.0206211608520.12901-100000@sandman.ucdavis.edu>
On Fri, 21 Jun 2002 owner-tmbg-digest@tmbg.org wrote:
> > Track listing for Dial-A-Song:
> > Older
Criminy, not Older AGAIN.
> > I Can Hear You
They're kidding, right?
> > Stormy Pinkness
> so wait, we get *one* Elektra b-side and no others? and it's a *live*
> version? and it's not even one of the best Elektra b-sides? meh!
No kidding. What about Welcome to the Jungle? Cabbagetown? Ant? (I
love Ant.)
> I've already made my own "best of TMBG" mix. one CD, starts with Ana
> Ng, ends with End of the Tour, doesn't include any of the crappy songs
> like AFK. I think I'll listen to that instead.
What I want to know is why they're promoting it as a DAS anthology. Or
did I misread the original?
Suggestions for the antho:
> The Bells Are Ringing
Yes, damn it! The demo version, with the synth bells! I vastly preferred
it to the final version.
> Rest Awhile
> On the Drag
Amen.
> Hell Hotel (I really really really want to hear this with the Band of Dans
> already... hell, just release it as it is... something)
Like you, I mostly want to hear this remade by the current band. Ditto
Become A Robot.
What about the REAL dial-a-song stuff? Where's Gettin' Sentimental Over
You? Mrs. Cinderella? Hi Honey I'm Home (just kidding, I don't like it)?
Maybe one of the covers... Concrete & Clay?
> >I had the first line of Older on
> >my answering machine for a long time, and I'd always get good or at least
> >amused comments about it.
I used to have the first line of Destination Moon on mine, when I was in
the dorms. It was great. But then, like everyone else, I had to get a
serious one. I swear that when I get a real job (any month now), back to
Destination Moon goes the answering machine.
--nicole twn
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Message-ID: <184670-220026521235152203@tmbg.cc>
From: "makebase" <makebase@tmbg.cc>
Subject: Re: TMBG: DAS anthology
Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2002 19:51:52 -0400
From: Nicole Carlson <nmcarlson@ucdavis.edu>
>I used to have the first line of Destination Moon on mine, when I
>was in the dorms. It was great. But then, like everyone else, I
>had to get a serious one. I swear that when I get a real job (any
>month now), back to Destination Moon goes the answering machine
I had the same thing on my voicemail for a while in college. My boss
called once and left a message that was eerily similar to Gloria's
ramblings on "Track 13." For the most part, though, I saw a drop in
the number of messages left, as I think people were just hanging up
because they thought the message was weird. For a while I had the
"Matthew and Gunnar" message on my machine too. People responded
better to that one.
Shaun
TMBG Citizen of Utah
www.tmbg.cc
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From: "Jennifer Russell-Fenus" <batmanusdmychina@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: TMBG: TMBG Dial Up Anniversary Anthology
Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2002 18:30:07 -0600
Message-ID: <LAW2-F50kyCKDkb9pPF0000044a@hotmail.com>
>
> >Richard ~ England and USA both out of the World Cup but Wimbledon
> >tennis starts Monday!
>
>Tennis? Don't you mean--oh yeah, we call it tennis here too. Do
>people mispronounce it WimbleTon there too? How annoying.
>
>Shaun
>TMBG Citizen of Utah
>www.tmbg.cc
The people who pronounce it "WimbleTon" are probably the same people who put
an extra "R" in sherbet and wash and pronounce them sherbeRt and waRsh.
That IS annoying. Not that these phenomena are limited to people in Utah,
but because I live here, I must ask, didn't ol' Joseph Smith create the
Deseret Alphabet so he could get away with phonetic spelling? (Not that it
was ever popularized or anything like that). He probably thought sticking
"R"'s in the middle of words where they don't belong was annoying too, and
thus the birth of the Deseret Alphabet.
Jen
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From: "makebase" <makebase@tmbg.cc>
Subject: Re: TMBG: TMBG Dial Up Anniversary Anthology
Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2002 20:45:41 -0400
From: Jennifer Russell-Fenus <batmanusdmychina@hotmail.com>
>The people who pronounce it "WimbleTon" are probably the same people
>who put an extra "R" in sherbet and wash and pronounce them sherbeRt
>and waRsh. That IS annoying. Not that these phenomena are limited
>to people in Utah, but because I live here, I must ask, didn't ol'
>Joseph Smith create the Deseret Alphabet so he could get away with
>phonetic spelling? (Not that it was ever popularized or anything
>like that). He probably thought sticking "R"'s in the middle of
>words where they don't belong was annoying too, and thus the birth
>of the Deseret Alphabet.
>
>Jen
Yes and no. Joseph Smith never made it to Utah. Brigham Young had
some of the more intellectual Mormon pioneers develop the Deseret
alphabet pretty much for the reason you suggest. Converts were
coming to Utah from all over Europe and he thought a phonetic
alphabet would make learning English a lot easier for newly arriving
immigrants. Unfortunately, Deseret looked like some kind of
encrypted Greek wingbat font. It never caught on and we Utahns were
left to develop our strange way of pronouncing words. I also think
that Benjamin Franklin tried to do the same thing with similar
results.
Shaun
TMBG Citizen of Utah
www.tmbg.cc
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From: "Thomas Murphy" <thomas.murphy@prodigy.net>
Subject: TMBG: Son of the Return of "Dr. Spock's Back-Up Band"
Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2002 21:19:34 -0400
Message-ID: <IOELJLJDFANNBDOBOECBAEHICCAA.thomas.murphy@prodigy.net>
Thanks to all who looked the first time and wrote and said "Wot happened?!?"
The well intentioned staff at Ebay made a decision to remove the initial
listing of the item from auction.
But all is well, it's been relisted but will end soon. View it at:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=887618616
As this is a special item and the only one I have (or have ever seen in my
years of TMBG collecting), I will not participate in illegal duplication, so
No! requests for CD-R or tape copies please.
Thanks,
Tom
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