From: owner-tmbg-list To: tmbg-digest Subject: They Might Be Giants Digest V1 #11 Reply-To: tmbg-list@tmbg.org Errors-To: owner-tmbg-list Precedence: bulk They Might Be Giants Digest Wednesday, 27 September 1995 Volume 01 : Number 011 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: sara kathleen smith Date: Wed, 27 Sep 1995 12:52:30 -0500 (EST) Subject: anybody out there? i just finished reading the monthly tmbg FAQ thingy. is it just me, or am i the only person in existence who does not know all there is to know about the giants? i love their music, i would graciously give a vital organ to be able to see them, but i havent sat down to draw parallels between their songs and classical pieces of the early 16th century. am i the only one out there? oh by the way, as was mentioned in the FAQ, listen to Barenaked Ladies. You cant go wrong. soph ------------------------------ From: "Jennifer Parker" Date: Wed, 27 Sep 1995 13:55:15 EST Subject: Re: HATE? That's an awfully strong word! > From: "and I said yeah baby, Evil's ok in my book!" > Date: Tue, 26 Sep 1995 21:38:52 -0500 > Subject: wb > > I'm sorry to all you Tiny Animaniac Looney lovers out there who I am about > to offend, but I HATE warner brothers. I've spent hours plotting how I'm > going to destroy their corporation. If only they didn't have the reigns of > Elektra records.... If you're going to say such awful things about people you should at least say why!! You can e-mail me personally with your response, unless everybody else wants to know why you hate them as well. I have my problems with the corporation itself, but I adore the animated work they distribute (well, most of it anyway.) On a side note, does anyone have an interp or any ides about "Ondine" from Back to Skull? I think it's an awesome song, but my ideas are kind of strange----ergo, I would like to hear some slightly more moderate opinions. (My interp is primarily based in radical feminism--and I really don't enjoy people flaming my personal belief system.) Jennifer ------------------------------ From: "Christina (the voice was repeating)" Date: Wed, 27 Sep 95 15:24:26 EDT Subject: non sequiturs etc. Hello to all the fellow fans on the list... Jon Chaffer & Dan Parreira--I would love to compare German translations with you (think how warped the lyrics would get) Matt Powers--very nice illustrations... Happy day to everyone. how sleepless is the egg knowing that which throws the stone foresees the bone ------------------------------ From: michael.carr@stonebow.otago.ac.nz (Michael Carr) Date: Thu, 28 Sep 1995 09:33:19 +0200 Subject: cha, right >Hmmmm, I have to disagree here. What if hot-cha is the drunk person. >Certainly some of us have done things like leaving the stereo on, or cooking >bacon while away in our inebriated state. They seem like examples of >irresponsibility that can go along with a drunkard. Unfortunatley, it never came back to tell us why. Would this mean that someone at Elektra Records ahs discovered a Miracle Drunkennes Cure? I think Hot Cha is just like a person who lots of people looked up to admired/was the coolest guy in town and then he...vanished. It's not always a case of stare inot the sublimininal for as long as you can. By the way if Hot Cha was Jesus, why would we be drinking and cooking the prodigal son??! I'm sure Jesus doesn't advocate ripping his parables to shreds. - ---------------------------------------------------------- When a man talks dirty to a woman, it's sexual harrasment. When a woman talks dirty to a man, it's $3.95 a minute. - ---------------------------------------------------------- Michael Carr Email: - ---------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ From: Particle Date: Wed, 27 Sep 1995 18:30:10 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: cha, right On Thu, 28 Sep 1995, Michael Carr wrote: > a case of stare inot the sublimininal for as long as you can. > By the way if Hot Cha was Jesus, why would we be drinking and cooking the > prodigal son??! I'm sure Jesus doesn't advocate ripping his parables to > shreds. Drink and cook the prodigal son? You don't know why this is Jesus? You're not Catholic (or ex-Catholic) are you? The sacrament of the Holy Communion is a ritualistic consuming of Jesus, represented by wafers and wine. Particle (rgauthie@ic.sunysb.edu)__/_\__ __/_____\__ Truth is Paradox __/_________\__ __/_____________\__ ------------------------------ From: Matt Powers Date: Wed, 27 Sep 1995 15:44:37 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: cha, right "Drink and cook the prodigal son" Hmm.... Sounds a bit like "wine and dine." Could we be entertaining Jesus? At a fondue party? Is it the second coming? I think I follow the Jesus Metaphor. Hot Cha, where are you? [A plea for salvation] Everybody's eyes are closed [Possibly in reference to ignorance] I can't see why I miss you so [Probably 'cause his eyes are closed] So Hot Cha, where are you? [Is this a unconcious plea for the 2nd coming?] First time Hot Cha went away [Jesus died] A floating island was his home [Heaven?] Then the phone rang off the hook [People called him back] and Hot Cha had to come back home [Resurrection!] Second time he went away- [The Ascension] left the bath tub running over, [Reference to baptism? He said, "He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved as his last words before ascending to heaven. Another interp of the same line: He didn't finish what he started.] stereo on and cooking bacon [second interp of previous line] Never came back to tell us why [Why he left, that is.] If that honey would come back We would throw such a party Drink and cook the prodigal son [Wine and dine the Son] Fondue forks for everybody. By the way, I ain't Christian, I'm not preaching, but it isn't as if John and John haven't used Judeo/Christian myths as inspirations for their songs before. Also, does anyone know what prodigal means? I looked it up, and though I understand which definition is used in reference to Jesus ("giving or yielding profusely") the other possibilities are not very complimentary: "wastefully or recklessly extravagent" "a person who spends, or has spent, his money or substance with wasteful extravagence" m@t ------------------------------ From: Matt Powers Date: Wed, 27 Sep 1995 15:51:53 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: cha, right Well, screw my "wine and dine" theory. Though it is wine that is taken at communion, so why not? Sigh. They are an education. m@t On Wed, 27 Sep 1995, Particle wrote: > Drink and cook the prodigal son? You don't know why this is Jesus? > > You're not Catholic (or ex-Catholic) are you? > > The sacrament of the Holy Communion is a ritualistic consuming > of Jesus, represented by wafers and wine. > > > > Particle (rgauthie@ic.sunysb.edu)__/_\__ > __/_____\__ > Truth is Paradox __/_________\__ > __/_____________\__ > > ------------------------------ From: sara kathleen smith Date: Wed, 27 Sep 1995 18:06:04 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: cha, right drink and cook the prodigal son makes perfect sense, and refers (atleast in my mind) to the parable of the prodigal son, here in short. this guy had 2 sons, one (the prodigal one) left, the other stayed home. even though the one that left squandered all his money and was a bad boy, when he came home, his papa threw a huge party. kind of like drinking and cooking (for) the prodigal son. make sense? any comments? by the way Matt Powers, very good interp of the song. I am impressed to bits. On Wed, 27 Sep 1995, Particle wrote: > On Thu, 28 Sep 1995, Michael Carr wrote: > > > a case of stare inot the sublimininal for as long as you can. > > By the way if Hot Cha was Jesus, why would we be drinking and cooking the > > prodigal son??! I'm sure Jesus doesn't advocate ripping his parables to > > shreds. > > Drink and cook the prodigal son? You don't know why this is Jesus? > > You're not Catholic (or ex-Catholic) are you? > > The sacrament of the Holy Communion is a ritualistic consuming > of Jesus, represented by wafers and wine. > > > > Particle (rgauthie@ic.sunysb.edu)__/_\__ > __/_____\__ > Truth is Paradox __/_________\__ > __/_____________\__ > > ------------------------------ From: Jonathan.Chaffer@cmich.edu (Jonathan Chaffer) Date: Wed, 27 Sep 1995 19:42:48 -0600 Subject: Re: cha, right Thus spake Particle: > Drink and cook the prodigal son? You don't know why this is Jesus? > > You're not Catholic (or ex-Catholic) are you? > > The sacrament of the Holy Communion is a ritualistic consuming > of Jesus, represented by wafers and wine. Yes indeed, but the prodigal son is not Jesus. See below. Quoth Matt Powers : >Also, does anyone know what prodigal means? I looked it up, and though >I understand which definition is used in reference to Jesus ("giving or >yielding profusely") the other possibilities are not very complimentary: >"wastefully or recklessly extravagent" "a person who spends, or has >spent, his money or substance with wasteful extravagence" Yes, in the Bible the word "prodigal" means all of those things. The parable of the prodigal son tells of a boy who asks for his inheritance in advance, then goes out and wastes his money on food, clothes, chicks, etc. When he runs out of money, he goes back home to ask his father if he can work for him as a slave. His dad (i.e. God) throws a huge party for him (Wining and dining?) because he's so happy that his son is home. The prodigal's older brother is insanely jealous. Jesus tells the story, but he is not a character in it (except God of course). Leave it to a Lutheran to clear up the parable retellings ;-) - --Jon P.S. I like your line-by-line analysis, Matt. ****************************************************************** Jonathan Chaffer Rabidchild on RealmsMud jonathan.chaffer@cmich.edu Mail me for help getting there! - -----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK----- Version: 3.1 GM/MU d-(--) s++:--->++:- a--- C++ U--- P--- !L E? W++>+++ N- o? K+ W--- !O M+++++$ !V PS-- PE+ Y+ PGP- t+ 5? X? R+/C tv b++ @DI !D G++ e*>++++ r y- - ------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------ ------------------------------ From: Jonathan.Chaffer@cmich.edu (Jonathan Chaffer) Date: Wed, 27 Sep 1995 19:43:27 -0600 Subject: Re: non sequiturs etc. >Jon Chaffer & Dan Parreira--I would love to compare German translations with >you (think how warped the lyrics would get) Yeah, and it's only fun if you are VERY incorrect in your grammar, and use English words when you can't come up with the right German one. ****************************************************************** Jonathan Chaffer Rabidchild on RealmsMud jonathan.chaffer@cmich.edu Mail me for help getting there! - -----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK----- Version: 3.1 GM/MU d-(--) s++:--->++:- a--- C++ U--- P--- !L E? W++>+++ N- o? K+ W--- !O M+++++$ !V PS-- PE+ Y+ PGP- t+ 5? X? R+/C tv b++ @DI !D G++ e*>++++ r y- - ------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------ ------------------------------ From: "Anne E. Heidemann" <343SXVT@CMUVM.CSV.CMICH.EDU> Date: Wed, 27 Sep 95 21:20:27 EDT Subject: pink album! yay! woohoo! hey all. i just went to the used record store (one of them, anyway), because my bf had s bunch of tapes stolen out of his car and i wanted to see if there were any there i could get for really cheap, and guess waht? i found the pink album on CD for only six dollars!!! yay! it was great. i am listening to it now. its relaly cool, because before i only had the dubbed version from a friend a buncha years ago. :D yay! i just had to share my joy. peace and fiber-one, anne "simple pleasures" heidemann ************************************************************ *** Anne Heidemann *** *** anne.e.heidemann@cmich.edu *** *** 343sxvt@cmuvm.csv.cmich.edu *** *** *** *** "Let your mind go and your body will follow." *** *** --L.A. Story *** ************************************************************ ------------------------------ From: "Anne E. Heidemann" <343SXVT@CMUVM.CSV.CMICH.EDU> Date: Wed, 27 Sep 95 21:46:55 EDT Subject: auf deutsch, bitte hey again, all. my mom is a german teacher, so i emailed her the lyrics of why must i be sad, so in a day or so, i'll post hte translations here. also, just a little note, for any of those interested, it is generally accepted, if you dont have umlaut capability, to >just insert an e after the unlauted letter. so, i will be getting back to eveyrone soon. :) peace and paper clips, anne "oh yeah, well my mom's a *german* teacher" heidemann ************************************************************ *** Anne Heidemann *** *** anne.e.heidemann@cmich.edu *** *** 343sxvt@cmuvm.csv.cmich.edu *** *** *** *** "Let your mind go and your body will follow." *** *** --L.A. Story *** ************************************************************ ------------------------------ From: Paul Stysley Date: Wed, 27 Sep 1995 21:50:14 -0400 Subject: pink album! yay! woohoo! -Reply Hi lo How's it going? Wow thats cool. I had to pay a ton more for mine. I'm glad your getting a kick out of that, its neat. what else is going on? I went home this weekend and that was fun. I got to see old friends that I keep in touch with a lot so its not old friends since they anr present friends too. Well anyway great to hear from you especially with good news. Talk to you later. TTFN may the force be with you paul (iamafish) ------------------------------ From: "Anne E. Heidemann" <343SXVT@CMUVM.CSV.CMICH.EDU> Date: Wed, 27 Sep 95 21:52:47 EDT Subject: yet another message related to german okay, last time for tonight. mom also said that it would be correct to say >Vogelhaus in deiner Seele peace, anne "next time, make a list!" heidemann ************************************************************ *** Anne Heidemann *** *** anne.e.heidemann@cmich.edu *** *** 343sxvt@cmuvm.csv.cmich.edu *** *** *** *** "Let your mind go and your body will follow." *** *** --L.A. 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