From: owner-tmbg-list To: tmbg-digest Subject: They Might Be Giants Digest V1 #30 Reply-To: tmbg-list@tmbg.org Errors-To: owner-tmbg-list Precedence: bulk They Might Be Giants Digest Thursday, 12 October 1995 Volume 01 : Number 030 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "????(mystery name)????" Date: Wed, 11 Oct 1995 22:50:18 -0500 Subject: "the john henry girl" I was sleeping, and a voice called to me in a dream. It said, "in the past, I know that you have supported the name "the john henry girl," but a new name has been suggested, and it is time for you to endorse it." I asked the voice what her new name should be, and it said, "when you see it, you will know." I awoke and saw her picture on a poster on my wall. I turned on my computer, and checked my mail, and there was the name. Several others have named it, and now I know that it is her true name. and it is Persephone. paul, the enlightened. ------------------------------ From: gaufred@leland.Stanford.EDU (Kasey Hicks) Date: Wed, 11 Oct 1995 21:08:04 -0700 Subject: Re: Favourite Pere Ubu tracks >Boy, that's tough. I really like "Caligari's Mirror". That may be the one--either that, or "Pa Ubu Dance Party" ("... nee nee nah nah; nee nee nah nah ..."), or "Navvy" ("I got this arms and legs that flip flop flip flop ... Boy, that sounds swell"). ------------------------------ From: promans@sloth.loyola.edu (Phil Romans) Date: Thu, 12 Oct 1995 00:08:14 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: They Might Be Giants Digest V1 #29 Heya all, Does anyone know of any tour scheadual?!?!? I must have my TMBG!! or.... does anyone have live concerts to trade? I have a bunch of other stuff for trade. E-mail me privatly for a list or visit my homepage, my list is under u2. - -=phi; - -- /----------------------------------\ |E-mail: promans@sloth.loyola.edu \-----\ I W G B T P |ULR: http://justice.loyola.edu/~promans\ |{U2-They Might Be Giants-Pink Floyd- Rush} \-------------\ |looking for any 'live' material of these bands | | ****Magic: The Addiction****/ \--------------------------------------------------------/ ------------------------------ From: Jonah Cosley Date: Wed, 11 Oct 1995 20:42:19 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: News: TMBG Changes Its Name! On Wed, 11 Oct 1995, Benjamin Hauck wrote: > Gotcha. > > TMBG's new name is: > They Will Be Giants > (which of course changes the acronym to TWBG) > > At least they're not known as > The Artists Formerly Known As They Might Be Giants > > You're all Really Big Shoes, > Ben or Been Is this some joke only someone as gullible as me would consider and reply like this or does it have any truth...sorry...:) Jonah Cosley -- cosley@eskimo.com ------------------------------ From: Sara.B.Carmichael@Dartmouth.EDU (Sara B. Carmichael) Date: 12 Oct 95 01:46:49 EDT Subject: Re: a mystery >I'm not sure but wasn't the Apollo 18 full band tour called the >"Don't Tread on the Cut Up Snake Tour"? Seriously, it went around >the list last year but I'm not sure. yeah...thats right ...they had an apollo 18 tour, but it was only ten or so stops. the other one was cut up snake (tecnically the dont tread on the cut up snake world tour if you want to be a really picky kinda person sara says as she reads her tshirt) i saw that in gainesville, fl . it was lotso fun. - -sara- ------------------------------ From: Jason Weiner Date: Thu, 12 Oct 1995 00:32:27 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: Covers On Wed, 11 Oct 1995 THOMASVB@CEDAR.GOSHEN.EDU wrote: > Yeah, I forgot about Istanbul being a cover! I knew that! Why Does the Sun > Shine and a couple other covers (one of Meat Puppets) are on the WDTSS "single".I was asking more about "live" covers, thanx! > In Dallas about two or three years ago (when it was all hard-core fans) They were playing the Majestic (the perfect place to see Them) and a local radio station DJ played Stump the Band. The winner by default was the 1812 Overture. And they played it! Guitar, bass, drums - Linnell even knew the accordian part! They can play the snot out of anything! Jason "Hail Eris!" "All Hail Discordia!" ------------------------------ From: joekeith@dircon.co.uk (Joe Keith) Date: Thu, 12 Oct 1995 08:30:22 +0100 Subject: Re: Matt James Digest#2 12/10/95 On Thu, 12 Oct 1995, Michael Carr asked: >and 2) I heard that Theymanaged to get into the top 20 of the British chart >somewhere a while agao...what song?! Oh - that was "Birdhouse In Your Soul". :) Joe - -- * JoeKeith@dircon.co.uk ************************************************* * "I've found out what it takes to be a man, * Mom & Dad will never understand." - Green Day * Coming soon to a Web browser near you: http://www.ftech.net/~joekeith/ ------------------------------ From: ssreddy@mail.utexas.edu (Sumanth Reddy) Date: Thu, 12 Oct 1995 04:08:04 -0600 Subject: Re: Covers >What songs do They cover? Have there been any covers of tmbg by other bands? >Me and a friend thought about songs that They could cover well. I think >the first verse of Out Of Jail sounds alot like REM's Gardening at Night, >except more audible. Comments? Hagfish, the greatest punk rock band which happens to be from Dallas-Fort Worth (which in fact has a great music scene) , did a beautiful cover of twisted. If someone is going to reply, send message to my e-mail address, ssreddy@mail.utexas.edu ------------------------------ From: myke Date: Thu, 12 Oct 1995 08:01:47 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Re: Covers Songs They have covered, off the top of my head... I know there are more, but i'm in a rush... The Monkees "What Am I Doing Hanging Around?" PAL JOEY: There's A Small Hotel Bewitched I Could Write A Book My Funny Valentine BABES IN ARMS: Lady Is A Tramp Leslie Gore: "Maybe I Know" ?: "I'm Getting Sentimental Over You" Allmans: "Jessica" SPACE SONGS: "Why Does The Sun Shine?" Meat Puppets: "Whirlpool" Unit 4+2: "Concrete & Clay" ?: "Next Plane To London" Ramones: "I Wanna Be Sedated" XTC: "25 O Clock" ------------------------------ From: apf@caess1.cae.aro.allied.com (Adam P. Fistler) Date: Thu, 12 Oct 95 09:28:49 EDT Subject: Re: Which is which? > > On Wed, 11 Oct 1995, Matthew James wrote: > > > > > As an example Linnell sings Ana Ng whereas Flans sings They'll Need a Crane > > > > Actually, Linnell also sings "They'll Need A Crane." > > > > sara > > > Oops my mistake, well Flans sings, um, the really high part in > She Was a Hotel Detective (Back to Skull version)? I think > > -- How can anyone get thier voice up that high? Evertime I try it cracks. ------------------------------ From: searchme@earthlink.net (Lisa /Matthew /SMS Music Co.) Date: Thu, 12 Oct 1995 08:48:16 -0700 Subject: Howling >On the song 'I should Be Allowed to Think' of John Henry I know the line "I >saw the worst mind of my generation destroyed by madness starving >hysterical," is taken from a poem but which one? I'm probably a little late on this one but the poem is 'Howl' by Allen Ginsberg. BTW, I thought it was 'Daddy *sang* bass. - -Matthew Matthew Kinsella/SMS Music -Used CDs that work! And they start at 99 cents! *The incredible shrinking sig* - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Lisa K. Cunningham/ Central Campaign Office * (Visit alt.tv.vr5!) // Virtual Storm: an organization dedicated to the fight to bring back VR.5 // ***finger adebliec@daniel.drew.edu for info on saving VR.5 from extinction // LISA'S QUOTE: I am a mushroom . . . - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ From: johniac@austin.ibm.com Date: Thu, 12 Oct 1995 10:49:19 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Matt James Digest#2 12/10/95 Michael Carr writes: > On the song 'I should Be Allowed to Think' of John Henry I know the line "I > saw the worst mind of my generation destroyed by madness starving > hysterical," is taken from a poem but which one? "Howl, Part One" by Allen Ginsberg. Doesn't anybody read the little inserts/booklets that come with these albums? - -- John Iacoletti IBM - Team AIX Austin, Texas johniac@austin.ibm.com or johniac@vnet.ibm.com My opinions do not reflect the views of the IBM Corporation ------------------------------ From: aimee elisabeth pflieger Date: Thu, 12 Oct 1995 11:15:50 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: Covers you know, i have the frank sinatra version of "lady is a tramp." it is awesome and it is a little challange to sing the words with the tmbg instrumental! - -aims ------------------------------ From: "Anthony F. Portizo" Date: Thu, 12 Oct 95 13:02:39 EDT Subject: XTC & the return of freaksickle hello, I tried to post this brief message before, but i realized that i posted to the wrong address, so i will try again... According to New releases weekly, the XTC tribute album will be arriving at music stores this Tuesday the 17th under the name "Testimonial Dinner". My only question is does any one know what track John & John will be covering... Another bit of news is that also according to New releases Superfueled Freaksickle will still be released on Oct 24th, well i don't know who to believe but, i guess i will just have to see for my self on this glorious day....OH by the way did anyone see the small clip of the TMBG video Istanbul on the commercial for this weeks best of unplugged week on MTV...they show the little animated drum guy... "there's an ant crawling up your back in the night time". ------------------------------ From: Matthew James Date: Thu, 12 Oct 1995 14:01:38 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: Which is which? Actually, I didn't think about it but they both do sing on this song. I hadn't listened to it for a while and in my hurried rush I popped it in really quick, noticed Flans voice in there and said it was Flans when I should have said both of them. Oh well. - --Matt > > In the immortal words of Matthew James: > > >Oops my mistake, well Flans sings, um, the really high part in > >She Was a Hotel Detective (Back to Skull version)? I think > > At the risk of offending old timers on the list, I'm including the > analysis I performed on the who-singyness of this song again. > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > From: Chris Bongaarts > To: coon@sage.cc.purdue.edu (Matthew Coon) > Cc: they-might-be@gnu.ai.mit.edu > Subject: Re: Back to Skull > Date: Wed, 11 Jan 1995 23:36:24 -0600 (CST) > > In the immortal words of Matthew Coon: > > >>It's John Flansburgh. Listen Closely. > > > >I've held my tongue long enough on this subject, now I must dissent! > >John Linnell sings this falsetto part. The timbre of the voice sounds > >exactly like him and nothing like Flans, either in natural voice or falsetto, > >which we have had some small samples of. It is most definitely Linnell. > >I'll bet you a dollar. > > I have cronies at Purdue who will collect my dollar. You have been > warned. > > Send me the samples, and I might believe you. > > WAIT ONE MINUTE! I *HAVE* SEEN HER! > > After further review, I posit thusly: > (L and F denote Linnel, and Flansburgh, respectively) > > L: Night time lady, she says "Maybe," in the all-night laundromat. > "Wait one minute! I have seen her - she's a billionaire." > She was a Hotel Detective, but now she's gotten promoted. > I don't think it was the money; she didn't care about expensive > things, no pearls or furs or fancy cars or diamond rings. > She was a Hotel Detective, but now she's better connected. > She didn't have to change anything, just the stencil on her window. > She used to be quite a lady; she drove the underworld crazy, > But now she goes insane in her way when it suits her occupation. > She read that motel directive - it told her she was defective(?) > I guess she found an easier way up the ladder and she took it. > Now that lady is running the world. > > F: Is she lonely? She's the only girl in this back-alleyway. > Both: Will she shoot you? She won't have to - you're already dead. > F: She was a Hotel Detective, but now she's gotten promoted. > I don't think it was the money; she didn't care about expensive > things, no pearls or furs or fancy cars or diamond rings. > L: She was a Hotel Detective, but now she's better connected. > She didn't have to change anything, just the stencil on her window. > She used to be quite a lady; she drove the underworld crazy, > But now she goes insane in her way when it suits her occupation. > She read that motel directive - it told her she was defective(?) > I guess she found an easier way up the ladder and she took it. > Now that lady is running the world. > > Note that I have Linnell singing the first falsetto part, and > Flansburgh singing the second. Listen closely; they actually sound > fairly different (Linnell's distinct vibrato texture shines thru in > the first, while the second has other tradionally Flansburghini(?)an > elements.) Note also that Flans sings the beginning of the second > verse before being supplanted by Linnell on lead. I'd like to hear > more opinions on this matter. > > So I guess we're BOTH right, m@t (and even, ah well.) > > ============================================ cab@cis.umn.edu > Chris Bongaarts University of Minnesota bong0004@gold.tc.umn.edu > My opinions are my own, and they are right. cab@acm.cs.umn.edu > WWW URL: http://www.tc.umn.edu/~cab CBongo@IRC (channel #umn) > GCS d-- s:+ a21 C+++ ULHSX++++$ P++++ L++ E W++ N++ K+++ w-- !O M+ !V PS+ > PE+ Y-- PGP-- t+ !5 !X R tv b+ DI++++ D+ G++ e h- !r y? [GeekCode 3.0] > - -- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Matt James mjames@love.loyola.edu, elrond@charm.net Loyola College "I'm not the only dust my mother raised."--TMBG "Look at the size of that thing!"--Wedge "Hail to the king, baby"-Ash Anything Box--U.S. synthpop claim to fame Warsaw-Joy Division-New Order - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ From: Matthew James Date: Thu, 12 Oct 1995 14:03:28 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: Covers > > At 05:47 PM 10/11/95 -0500, you wrote: > >What songs do They cover? Have there been any covers of tmbg by other bands? > >Me and a friend thought about songs that They could cover well. I think > >the first verse of Out Of Jail sounds alot like REM's Gardening at Night, > >except more audible. Comments? > > > Istanbul and Why Does The Sun Shine are both covers... > > There is a band from dallas called Hagfish that who play Twisting live at > shows. I always try to get them to let me come up on stage and sing it > since the singer messes up all the time, but they never do. I hear that the Bob's cover some of They's songs, although I haven't heard one myself. - -- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Matt James mjames@love.loyola.edu, elrond@charm.net Loyola College "I'm not the only dust my mother raised."--TMBG "Look at the size of that thing!"--Wedge "Hail to the king, baby"-Ash Anything Box--U.S. synthpop claim to fame Warsaw-Joy Division-New Order - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ From: Matthew James Date: Thu, 12 Oct 1995 14:04:57 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: Meta-messages? > > Ok, Ok, so I suck. Fine. Nufsed. > I didn't say you sucked, I was just wondering what your reasoning behind not telling us who John & John's girlfriends were. I can't think of a reason why not to tell. But if you have no desire to say so that is ok by me. - --Matt - -- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Matt James mjames@love.loyola.edu, elrond@charm.net Loyola College "I'm not the only dust my mother raised."--TMBG "Look at the size of that thing!"--Wedge "Hail to the king, baby"-Ash Anything Box--U.S. synthpop claim to fame Warsaw-Joy Division-New Order - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ From: Matthew James Date: Thu, 12 Oct 1995 14:06:11 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: News: TMBG Changes Its Name! > > Gotcha. > > TMBG's new name is: > They Will Be Giants > (which of course changes the acronym to TWBG) > > At least they're not known as > The Artists Formerly Known As They Might Be Giants > > You're all Really Big Shoes, > Ben or Been Or as a friend quoted me in an article on one of the TMBG shows "They are Giants" which would be TAG, you're it! - -- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Matt James mjames@love.loyola.edu, elrond@charm.net Loyola College "I'm not the only dust my mother raised."--TMBG "Look at the size of that thing!"--Wedge "Hail to the king, baby"-Ash Anything Box--U.S. synthpop claim to fame Warsaw-Joy Division-New Order - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ From: "Mr. Horrible" Date: Thu, 12 Oct 95 11:29:52 PDT Subject: Re: Favourite Pere Ubu Tracks Forwarded message: > > From: joekeith@dircon.co.uk (Joe Keith) > Date: Thu, 12 Oct 1995 00:43:41 +0100 > Subject: Favourite Pere Ubu tracks > > With the recent posting of the Pere Ubu tour dates, got to wondering about > which is my personal favourite Pere Ubu track. It has to be Waitng For Mary. > Anyone else? > > Joe > - -- Well I was going to reply individually to Joe, but since some others may be wondering about Pere Ubu I'll copy the list as well. In my opinion Pere Ubu's "Songs of the Bailing Man" is probably my favorite by them. The song "Use of a Dog" is great along with "Erie"! As are just about every other track on the CD. For more bizarre Ubu, check out "The Art of Walking". The track "Rhapsody in Pink" slays me everytime ("I spent the day under the water... The little fishies were looking at me..."). The CD "Cloudland" (where you can find "Waiting for Mary") is much more commericial, and also very cool. My favorite on there has to be "The Wire" though (lyrically at least). And then there's "Dub Housing" which rocks and plays some games. Well that's quite enough for now. If you haven't listened to Pere Ubu before, definitely check them out. Don't be put off by Dave Thomas' unique vocal style. It will grow on you and later maybe even amaze you. He's quite the writer as well. Pat "Lad looks at other gals. Gal thinks Jim Beam is handsomer than lad - - he isn't bad. Call off the wedding band. Nobody wants to hear that one again play that again." - TMBG ------------------------------ From: Phoenix777@aol.com Date: Thu, 12 Oct 1995 15:03:38 -0400 Subject: Who Singeth what Since there has been some discussion lately about who sings what, I thought I'd ask: Has anybody else looked at the "Who Sings What" List and totally disagreed with it? It has Flans listed singing Puppet Head and some others that are totally screwed up. Lemme know if you agree with this: Linnel has a higher pitched nasal voice most of the time and sings Birdhouse and Snail Shell and Ana Ng. Flans has a lower, rougher voice that is employed in the singing of (She was a)Hotel Detective version one and Pencil Rain and Whistling In the Dark. Listen to those songs and compare the voices. To me, they're quite distinctive. Adam "we are among you" Luikart ------------------------------ From: brown-eyed pickle boy Date: Thu, 12 Oct 1995 14:10:58 -0500 Subject: Re: JH Girl, Ana Ng At 05:22 PM 10/11/95 -0500, Chris Bongaarts wrote: >In the immortal words of brown-eyed pickle boy: > >>well, it's in the liner notes, isn't it? If not, here you go -- >>"so if you like a band with a chick singer, say your cup of tea is a wall of >>trombones, if you dig Menudo or MDC we salute you the way we know. For >>every one with dollar signs in their eyes ....." > >If memory serves, the liner notes say "bank" instead of "band". Of >course, band makes more sense. But we've had this discussion >before... :) either way, I believe the rest is correct. (Working from memory, one mistake isn't too bad...) searching for truth and freedom p.s. -- did you notice the wonderful UNSUBSCRIBE message that someone posted to the list? ------------------------------ From: johniac@austin.ibm.com Date: Thu, 12 Oct 1995 14:16:47 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Re: Who Singeth what Phoenix777@aol.com writes: > > Has anybody else looked at the "Who Sings What" List and totally disagreed > with it? It has Flans listed singing Puppet Head and some others that are > totally screwed up. Flans DOES sing Puppet Head. - -- John Iacoletti IBM RISC System/6000 Division johniac@austin.ibm.com My opinions do not reflect the views of the IBM Corporation If Jesus was a Jew, how come he had a Mexican name? ------------------------------ End of They Might Be Giants Digest V1 #30 *****************************************