Errors-To: owner-tmbg-digest@tmbg.org Reply-To: tmbg-digest@tmbg.org Sender: owner-tmbg-digest@tmbg.org Precedence: bulk From: owner-tmbg-digest@tmbg.org To: tmbg-digest@tmbg.org Subject: tmbg-list Digest #2-126 tmbg-list Digest, Volume 2, Number 126 Sunday, 5 May 1996 Today's Topics: Radium paint sale Randomness, all of it... Stuff Okay, who's this Bernstein guy? Re: Favorite Band Voting Re: Proud to be a grammar geek!! :) wacky happy day cantrell Re: wacky happy day Re: Stuff More on the KitH soundtrack Re: just a post... Re: Brain Candy popularity and such We Want a Rock Re: Proud to be a grammar geek!! :) Re: We Want a Rock Re: We Want a Rock My Web Site i pal. Administrivia: For all administrative issues, such as change of address, withdrawal from the list, etc., send a message to the following address: tmbg-digest-request@tmbg.org --------------------------------------------------------------------- The views expressed herein are those of the individual authors. --------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 4 May 1996 10:42:37 -0400 (EDT) From: Alex Gershon Subject: Radium paint sale Ruprecht, thanks for asking. Sam and Randy may return... Mike Rose(not Alex) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 4 May 1996 11:26:59 -0400 (EDT) From: Joshua Hall-Bachner Subject: Randomness, all of it... Hideho! I just thought I'd jump on the bandwagon. My favorite anagram of my name: "Rajah Shun Hell Boca". And, of course, I just had to get tmbg.org addresses: you can get me at "particle@tmbg.org" and "whirlpool@tmbg.org". Oh, and I'm curious: where does that bit at the beginning of the I(NC) Brownsville Mix about a "white tornado" come from? Anyone know? Anyone? ///////////////////////////////Joshua Hall-Bachner////////////////////////////// / particle@servtech.com / / "I spend too much time raiding windmills, We go side by side, laugh until / / it's right. There's something that you won't show, waiting where the light / / goes. And maybe anywhere the wind blows, it's all worth waiting for." / //////////////////////////////////-- Toad The Wet Sprocket,"Windmills"////////// ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 4 May 1996 11:27:38 -0400 (EDT) From: Joshua Hall-Bachner Subject: Stuff >The only way that TmBg will ever get extremely popular is because They >change Their music to be more commercial and to match the tastes of the >general public. So, the day They go triple platinum, say, is the day i >break down and cry for a year in mourning... While tri-plat usually indicates a sellout/mega-poser band nowadays, good bands still do go platinum. Toad The Wet Sprocket went platinum on their last two albums. _fear_ probably because of all the poser people who bought it for All I Want/Walk On The Ocean, but _Dulcinea_ because they have a big base of real, dedicated fans. I'm sure there are more people out there who would like TMBG if given a chance. And TMBG doesn't get _real_ exposure; I don't think MTV has ever played more than one of their videos, ever (ripping them off for background music doesn't count). Well, yeah, they did host 120 Minutes, but exposure on MTV means having your video played once during every time block (1hr30 to 2hr). I was sick at home watching TV the day the Alice In Chains video "Again" came out. I had to watch MTV "premiere" it 4 times, as well as see two of their other videos. >Where do you live? I have never had to buy a CD for that much money!! Isn't >there a Best Buy (where i found the new DMB album for $9.99 yesterday :)) >near you somewhere? I do all my CD shopping at two places: one is Media Play. I don't know how big the chain is, but it's a book/software/music store. The computer selection bites, but the music selection is as good as the average record store, with much better prices: no single disc ever seems to be above 12.99 (except those "gold" hi-fi things that only audio buffs buy anyway). If there's one near you, check it out. The other place is a local one; they're one of the ones that's big into indie stuff and weird no-name bands. Anyway, these types of stores are great, not for the CD prices, but because they have all sorts of CD singles, used CD's, and promos. I've picked up some great stuff at mine, including _three_ TMBG singles (I[NC], BTS, and WDTSS) about a month ago. From Someone Else: >"Our little group has always been and always will until the end"-Kurt >Cobain, Smells Like Teen Spirit Down in the sewers, there's radioactivity The Ninja Turtles And Splinter helping, guiding them As they conspire to beat Shredder Turtles, Turtles, Turtles, Turtles Michelangelo, Donatello, Raphael and Leonardo Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles Fightin' evil in the sewer! --Toad The Wet Sprocket (Smells Like Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles :) >If They Might Be Giants boarded Mrs. Train in Cowtown and headed east at >70 mph, while at the same time, on the same track, the conductor with the >paper-white mask of evil turned his train around west, at 32 mph, from >the hall of heads, when would they collide? We should get the Hotel Detective to investigate... >No. Too mathematic. How about: >If They Might Be Giants fell over in the woods, and no one was around, >would they make a sound? Only if Linnel fell on his accordion :) ///////////////////////////////Joshua Hall-Bachner////////////////////////////// / particle@servtech.com / / "I spend too much time raiding windmills, We go side by side, laugh until / / it's right. There's something that you won't show, waiting where the light / / goes. And maybe anywhere the wind blows, it's all worth waiting for." / //////////////////////////////////-- Toad The Wet Sprocket,"Windmills"////////// ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 4 May 1996 11:43:03 -0400 (EDT) From: Benjamin Hauck Subject: Okay, who's this Bernstein guy? Ben or Been here. I posted a tidbit comment a little while back about a guy mentioned on the back of the "I Palindrome I" single. His name was "Poncho Bernstein," and he recorded Joshua Fried's remake of "She's Actual Size." Now, last night I was examining the cover of Hello the Band--that Rolf Conant-Joshua Fried thing--and saw the name "Pablo Bernstein" on it. Two works with Joshua Fried, the same two works having a Bernstein helping, and the two Bernsteins having odd, P-starting names--Wha's up wit' dat??? Is it Adam Bernstein? Are there actually two different Bernsteins? Or is it one? Answer me: Ben or Been PS--I don't have my CDs in front of me. Perhaps I mistake the last name: Maybe it's not Bernstein but Goldstein. I can't remember--but regardless, who is this mysterious figure??? ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 4 May 1996 09:39:46 -0700 From: rclark@nccn.net (Ryan Clark) Subject: Re: Favorite Band Voting >Well, I have decided to extend the voting deadline. It was supposed >to end 2 days ago, but I don't have enough votes. PLEASE vote, because >otherwise I will NOT report the findings. This is due to the fact that >the top few bands would be in a tie for 1-5 place, with 1-3 having 3 >votes each, 4th having 2 votes and 5th all having 1 vote apiece. If >anyone notices something wrong with this, it's that 3 votes should not >place something in the top spot, and that it's supposed to be a top TEN >list, not five. So, just vote. So far, 45 people have, and I'd hate to >dissappoint them because the rest of you are complete slack-asses. Look, >this is totally ridiculous. I have to yell at you to get you to vote. >Just... if you don't want to vote, don't, but if you're thinking that >enough other people voted, it's not true. The max number of votes for the >same band is four. Whatever, the new deadline is May 17th. If, at that >time, I don't have enough votes, I'll take the hint and forget about it. >Oh, and to those of you who included personal messages your emailed >votes, I haven't responded because I just put all the messages in one >folder and don't know which ones have stuff in them. Once voting ends, >I'll respond. So, at least consider voting... or something. Oh, and if >you do plan on voting, remember, just vote for your 3 favorite bands (not >including TMBG). > >Thanks, Ryan Staib Favorite Bands other than TMBG Presidents of the United States of America Toad the Wet Sprocket Stone Temple Pilots Have a Nice Day, Ryan Clark rclark@nccn.net rclark@tmbg.org ------------------------------ From: Llamagrrl@aol.com Date: Sat, 4 May 1996 12:42:54 -0400 Subject: Re: Proud to be a grammar geek!! :) Of course, who can ever forget the sign for the restaurant and gas station which read..... EAT HERE AND GET GAS i'm ready to go there ......with nose plugs...... ------------------------------ From: mjames@sloth.loyola.edu (Matthew James) Subject: wacky happy day Date: Sat, 4 May 1996 13:56:53 -0400 (EDT) Heyas folks, Today has been a wacky day, not only did I get my CD player for WinNT to work (yah), but I turned on the radio last night to the classic rock type station 100 GRX and it has changed format and is now on the Polyester Flagship, it is an all disco station! I've heard WMCA, Macho Man, I thik I heard Disco Inferno, Rod Stewart discoy type song. All kinds of wacky stuff, it's just plain wild. Are there any other disco stations out there by any chance? Maybe they'll play She Was a Discodetective? ;) Oh and has anyone heard Love Spit Love's cover of How Soon is Now (by the Smiths? on the Crafts soundtrack) Wow, something weird I just heard, 98 Rock is inviting all 100 GRX listeners over to their station now that they hve changed to disco, very odd. About 25 o'clock I found out that the original XTC version, on the part where they're talking realy fast and all that other jibberish, it is just like spacey noise and other nothingness, so I'm guessing that TMBG just added in their own blurb of nothingness or they just talked and sped it up so fast nobody could tell what it is. Ok, see ya'all Matt -- ----------------------Bill Nye, the Science Guy!------------------------ Matt James polk@tmbg.org Matt.James.K.Polk@tmbg.org "EIREANN GO BRATH!"|Menswe@r|Echobelly| Wedge Antilles |The Beatles|XTC "I'm not the only dust my mother raised." "Hail to the king, baby"-Ash Pogues|Erasure|Warsaw-JoyDivision-NewOrder|Elastica|Blur|Suede|Pulp Smiths|Revenge|Other Two|Moxy Fruvous|Lightning Seeds|SPOCK|Supergrass -------The poor remain poor. Someone has to work at Woolworths.--------- ------------------------------ From: Ruprecht76@aol.com Date: Sat, 4 May 1996 17:06:29 -0400 Subject: cantrell I was just watching Rock 'n' Jock Baseball on Empty-V and found out that there is a guy in Alice in Chains named something Cantrell, does anybody know if he's related to the beloved "the guitar" singer? a spooky man named me ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 4 May 1996 18:38:14 -0400 (EDT) From: Amanda Gayle Douberly Subject: Re: wacky happy day On Sat, 4 May 1996, Matthew James wrote: > Oh and has anyone heard Love Spit Love's cover of How Soon is Now (by > the Smiths? on the Crafts soundtrack) yeah, and it's pure blasphemy Amanda ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 4 May 1996 20:00:00 -0400 (EDT) From: Cuper Vargas Subject: Re: Stuff > While tri-plat usually indicates a sellout/mega-poser band nowadays, good > bands still do go platinum. Toad The Wet Sprocket went platinum on their > last two albums. _fear_ probably because of all the poser people who bought > it for All I Want/Walk On The Ocean, but _Dulcinea_ because they have a big > base of real, dedicated fans. I'm sure there are more people out there who > would like TMBG if given a chance. And TMBG doesn't get _real_ exposure; I > don't think MTV has ever played more than one of their videos, ever (ripping > them off for background music doesn't count). Well, yeah, they did host 120 > Minutes, but exposure on MTV means having your video played once during > every time block (1hr30 to 2hr). I was sick at home watching TV the day the > Alice In Chains video "Again" came out. I had to watch MTV "premiere" it 4 > times, as well as see two of their other videos. I don't know why this gets under my skin so much, but it does. Lamenting the possibilty that TMBG will become a mainstream phenomenon is pointless because it has already happened. As for the MTV thing, if I'm not mistaken, ALL of TMBG's videos have been played on MTV (this fact from the memory of a time when I used to actually watch the god-awful 120 Minutes). In fact, Ana Ng was even released on the "Best Of 120 Minutes" video tape. The very fact that a band can afford to put together, let alone get it played, is pretty good sign of popularity. My advice is, if you like the music, play the damn music. If TMBG becomes huge (Green Day huge) next year, they'll probably be completely forgotten the year after that. Anyone remember Prince Buster? Just try to find one of his albums now. (I mean it, the man is brilliant.) As for TMBG, they don't seem the type to drastically change their music just to please the masses (although the recent string of soundtrack offerings is quite disheartening). And, good music is good music, regardless of who listens to it. -Slacker Ng P.S. If you hate MTV so much, stop watching it. If you don't see it, then it can't annoy you. It's the last place you want to go to hear about good music anyway. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 4 May 1996 20:15:19 -0400 (EDT) From: Alex Gershon Subject: More on the KitH soundtrack Hi all. I just purchased the Kids In The Hall soundtrack...ON VINYL!! Apparently, it's very rare, so I didn't mind paying $12.00 for it...Spiralling Shape is playing right now! On the back of the album cover, under the track listings, it says to look at the lp insert for song publishing, dialogue, etc. However, none of this information appears on the insert, or anywhere else on the album. Granted, the album was used, but it doesn't look like anything is missing. I'm so confused...but what else is new. On the subject of strange signs, I can't help but recount this story. I work as an usher at a movie theater. A while back, we were playing Terminator 2, and Bingo (that movie about a dog, you know?). Anyway, it seems that sometime during the night, someone with a very tall ladder must have climbed up the huge marquee sign out on the street and re-arranged the letters of those two movies to read: BANG ME This was repeated on all four marquee sign surrounding the theater. Needless to say, when we opened in the morning, we were flooded with calls from curious motorists that happened to read the signs as they drove by. Our manager had to run out and change all the signs himself, which only added to our amusement. Alex ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 4 May 1996 17:29:30 -0700 (PDT) From: cowgods@teleport.com (CowGod) Subject: Re: just a post... >"If i _WAS_ a carpenter, i'd hammer..." > >have any of you proper grammar freaks out there ever caught yourselves >singing "If i _WERE_...," without even thinking about it? >i have only noticed several lines in all of Their songs that are >grammatically incorrect...can anyone name any more? (other than obvious >fragments...) Eh, I'm not a proper grammar freak, but, ah, I always sing it like that. To tell ya the truth, I never really realized that They say WAS. Shame, shame boys. :) The Almighty Cowgod "You've got a Methodist Coloring Book, and you color really well, but don't color outside the lines, or God will send you to Hell, 'cause God hates war, and God hates crime, but He really hates people who color outside the lines." - The Dead Milkmen ------------------------------ From: LtAldus@aol.com Date: Sat, 4 May 1996 22:29:47 -0400 Subject: Re: Brain Candy <> I live in Chicago, if you consider that close <> Spiralling Shape is played for about 4 seconds in "Brain Candy" -Young Hickory Napoleon ------------------------------ From: Matthew James Subject: popularity and such Date: Sat, 4 May 1996 22:36:08 -0400 (EDT) heyas, About the popularity and mainstream issue...I have been struggling (ok well not struggling, but pondering)over the popularity of TMBG. I really, objectively, do not think they are mainstream, even their more popular songs. More people know about Don't Let's Start and Birdhouse, and Particle Man and all but I still run into some people who have just never heard of them. Yes they have been on 120 minutes and played a few times on MTV, but that's gonna happen with most bands at some point at another (although rarely). They really are not played on radio stations very much at all and their concerts are usually pretty small comparitively to some. Sure there's a pretty good amount of people who have heard or own Flood or at least parts of it, but I don't often see TMBG stuff in people's CD collections nor nearly see as many TMBG shirts on people as many other bands. They have toured natinally many times and have had many openers but they seem more low key, I guess. They're kinda the down to earth hometown boys that have gotten a little popular over the years, but they still play the small venues and have good ole fun with the concerts (or else why would they tour so much?). They drive their car everywhere (they usually don't fly or find more luxurious ways to get around), they live in Brooklyn (at least as far as we know, maybe they've moved up to Manhattan? hmm). But I have noticed more people have heard of them and like their music than before, so I'm not sure exactly how I see them in the popularity vein. I could name a lot of bands that are much more popular though and I could name a bunch that aren't as popular so there more towards the lower-middle I guess. Oh well I am rambling,rambling, rambling! Highlights played on Polyester 100: Baltimore's all disco station as of a few days ago: _A 1/5 of Beethoven_ _Stayin Alive_ _I Will Survive_ other wacky disco songs! The disco continues tomorrow! Matt -- ----------------------Bill Nye, the Science Guy!------------------------ Matt James polk@tmbg.org Matt.James.K.Polk@tmbg.org "EIREANN GO BRATH!"|Menswe@r|Echobelly| Wedge Antilles |The Beatles|XTC "I'm not the only dust my mother raised." "Hail to the king, baby"-Ash Pogues|Erasure|Warsaw-JoyDivision-NewOrder|Elastica|Blur|Suede|Pulp Smiths|Revenge|Other Two|Moxy Fruvous|Lightning Seeds|SPOCK|Supergrass -------The poor remain poor. Someone has to work at Woolworths.--------- ------------------------------ From: Matthew James Subject: We Want a Rock Date: Sat, 4 May 1996 22:39:31 -0400 (EDT) Ok lemme get this straight, I can't remember the song exactly so They say "If I WERE a carpenter" or "If I WAS a carpenter"? I think were sounds better but that might be just what I'm used to hearing from them. But I is singular so I would think it hsould be "If I WAS a carpenter" hmmmmmmmm I like If I WERE a carpenter, I don't think I could say it any other way! Matt -- ----------------------Bill Nye, the Science Guy!------------------------ Matt James polk@tmbg.org Matt.James.K.Polk@tmbg.org "EIREANN GO BRATH!"|Menswe@r|Echobelly| Wedge Antilles |The Beatles|XTC "I'm not the only dust my mother raised." "Hail to the king, baby"-Ash Pogues|Erasure|Warsaw-JoyDivision-NewOrder|Elastica|Blur|Suede|Pulp Smiths|Revenge|Other Two|Moxy Fruvous|Lightning Seeds|SPOCK|Supergrass -------The poor remain poor. Someone has to work at Woolworths.--------- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 04 May 1996 21:53:28 -0500 (CDT) From: Little Woman From Another Place <00083933@bigred.unl.edu> Subject: Re: Proud to be a grammar geek!! :) > On Thu, 2 May 1996, Tara Lynne Weber wrote: > > > You know what really irks me? It drives me insane when people can't get > > grammar stuff right even on big ol' signs. There is a sign on a store > > here in Lincoln that irritates me to no end. It says: > > > > Wednesday's are > > "BARGIN" > > Day's > Well, this is not at all the same thing, not bad grammar, but it is funny. Earlier this year there was a sign at the Taco Bell in my hometown that said: Congratulations Bob and Teresa! It's a Boy! HELP WANTED I'm not sure I got the couple's name right, but I think you get the point... My other favorite was in an ad in a local newspaper that said, "Special sale! Bikinis half off!" I'll be sleeping in the flowers, =) Kylee * The thoughts and Unrelated Things herein are not mine; they belong to My Evil Twin. Complaints should be directed to the Hall of Heads. """"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" ) ( \ ) | Kylee Dickey: 5'3" : I'm the LWFAP! | / ) ) ( | 00083933@bigred.unl.edu | ( ( ( ) | she.is.actual.size@tmbg.org | ______________________ """"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" ` '__ | "If you say drink coffee, I'll drink | \ TWIN PEAKS / \ | coffee." --Agent Cooper | \ SHERIFF'S DEPT / ] """"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" l _l___/ \__ __/ I have too much blood in my caffeine system! /_________\ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 4 May 1996 23:02:56 -0400 (EDT) From: Bizarre Inca Egg Subject: Re: We Want a Rock > hearing from them. But I is singular so I would think it hsould > be "If I WAS a carpenter" hmmmmmmmm > I like If I WERE a carpenter, I don't think I could say it any > other way! > Matt OK...I can explain. WAS is singular, but the sentence is written in the conditional form. Therefore, "If i WERE a carpenter..." is grammatically correct. That's why it sounds right. WAS would be correct if They sang "I WAS a carpenter..." You see how much difference the word "If" makes in the sentence. Personally, I say let Them be grammatically incorrect. It's ok by me, and I'm an English major!! :) Later! Craig B. "the boy hoo am a english majer" :) ------------------------------ From: Matthew Coon Subject: Re: We Want a Rock Date: Sat, 4 May 1996 22:05:11 -0500 (EST) Matt James writes: > > But I is singular so I would think it should be "If I WAS a carpenter" > But it is in the subjunctive mood, hence it is WERE - e.g., "I wish I WERE an Oscar Mayer weiner (but, alas, I am not)." m@t It's *cheese*, Gromit! ------------------------------ From: Ruprecht76@aol.com Date: Sat, 4 May 1996 23:22:23 -0400 Subject: My Web Site Hey Everybody... I just got done making version 2.5 of my home page... Those of you with Netscape 2.0 please take a look and tell me what you think of the frames, I just taught myself how to make them... Those of you using any other browser take a look and tell me if it works right for you... the URL is http://www.dragonfire.net/~Ruprecht/ ... I should have my tmbg page 'The Hall Of Heads' in frames by the end of the week... a spooky man named me ------------------------------ From: Matthew James Subject: i pal. Date: Sun, 5 May 1996 01:43:56 -0400 (EDT) Hey all, I was looking at the I Palindrome I single today and i was wondering if anyone knew where that pic of the elephant and snake comes from? Is that some museum or something? Matt (who' glad to have his Remote Access Server working) Polyester 101: Baltimore's all disco station just played Disco Duck! -- ----------------------Bill Nye, the Science Guy!------------------------ Matt James polk@tmbg.org Matt.James.K.Polk@tmbg.org "EIREANN GO BRATH!"|Menswe@r|Echobelly| Wedge Antilles |The Beatles|XTC "I'm not the only dust my mother raised." "Hail to the king, baby"-Ash Pogues|Erasure|Warsaw-JoyDivision-NewOrder|Elastica|Blur|Suede|Pulp Smiths|Revenge|Other Two|Moxy Fruvous|Lightning Seeds|SPOCK|Supergrass -------The poor remain poor. Someone has to work at Woolworths.--------- ------------------------------ End of tmbg-list Digest #2-126 ******************************