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          tmbg-list Digest, Volume 2, Number 347

                Thursday, 19 December 1996

Today's Topics:

                       TMBG: Reichs
                    TMBG: Irving Plaza
                     TMBG: moxy & BNL
                     Re: TMBG: Reichs
                   Re: TMBG: moxy & BNL
                     TMBG: influence
                   TMBG: Re: your mail
        Re: TMBG: 3rd rock?? also Re:SEXXY single
         TMBG: FS Tour Video Bootlegs for Trade!
              TMBG: fond farewell...for now
   TMBG: radio/linnell/video/cornymags/equipment gossip
             TMBG: Larry Santiago pls mail me
             TMBG: Larry Solomon pls mail me
          TMBG: Re: Everything you know is wrong
                     Re: TMBG: Ng/etc
            TMBG: Re: tmbg-list Digest #2-346
        Re: TMBG: 3rd rock?? also Re:SEXXY single
         TMBG: Have a holly jolly Christmas, 9:30
                         TMBG: .
              Semi-TMBG: KITH and Red Dwarf
                       Re: TMBG: .
                 TMBG: More Ng (moring?)
          TMBG: TMBG ON MTV!!!! ffuts rehto dna
                    TMBG: Re: Jeopardy
                     Re: Non-TMBG: .
                         TMBG: Ng
        Re: TMBG: TMBG ON MTV!!!! ffuts rehto dna
                       Re: TMBG: .
               TMBG: TMBG and video games.
                   TMBG: 9:30 in store
            not really TMBG: remote java.mail
                       Fwd: TMBG: .

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Date: Wed, 18 Dec 1996 04:08:30 -0500 (EST)
From: Dan Lee <dalee@husc.harvard.edu>
Subject: TMBG: Reichs

On Tue, 17 Dec 1996, Joshua Hall-Bachner wrote:

> BTW: Checking with those who remember :) more about German history than I,
> the Second Reich in Germany was the Weimar Republic, especially unsuccessful
> as Reichs go. So now the Dirt Bike/Third Reich interp fits perfectly. :)

Okay, I know it's really bad to say the same thing twice, but I just
wanted to reassert that the Second Reich was the one that lasted from the
formation of a German state to the end of the First World War.  I'm pretty
sure since it happened to be mentioned today in class.  (Also, the Weimar
Republic was in no way a Reich, i.e. an Empire or Kingdom, etc.)  Note
that the interpretation works out pretty much the same.  (this message was
really pointless)

--Dan

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Date: Wed, 18 Dec 96 06:31:28 EDT
From: "Pooh Head Bucket?" <sorianot@alpha.montclair.edu>
Subject: TMBG: Irving Plaza

...I hadn't heard the official word yet. Irving Plaza is a tremendous place to
see Them-- the Halloween shows a few years back were just the BEST vibe
ever...we all ended up getting booted out of the A&P next door (or
thereabouts)...
	We must come up with some post-show weekly listie activity. Maybe with
enough psychic energy (and the help of the immortal Mister Lounge) we can
psyche them into playing "Cowtown"...

		-very very very very happy Tom

Tom Soriano * sorianot@alpha.montclair.edu
*------------------------------------------
"It's a typical day on the road to Utopia"

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Date: Wed, 18 Dec 1996 07:33:43 +0500
From: Patrick Savage <psavage@vt.edu>
Subject: TMBG: moxy & BNL

Matt James wrote:

>Is anyone by any chance going to see BNL and/or Moxy Fruvous on Dec 31
>in New York City?  Myself and Cortney are going to try out darndest to
>make it up there for 1 or both (probably Moxy if only 1).  Also, if
>anyone has info on these shows can you e-mail me?  Thanks!

Ack!  So that means The Fr=FCv, BNL, _and_ TMBG are all playing in the same
city *on the same night*!  It doesn't get any better than that, does it?  I
would love to go to any of those shows, but preferably BNL and/or Moxy
since I've never seen them live before (and I'll hopefully be at the 9:30
club They show..does anyone know if tickets are still available?).

I have info on the Moxy and BNL gigs so email me if you're interested.

--
Pat
psavage@vt.edu

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Date: Wed, 18 Dec 1996 09:57:25 -0500 (EST)
From: Dan Lee <dalee@husc.harvard.edu>
Subject: Re: TMBG: Reichs

On Wed, 18 Dec 1996, Matthew James wrote:

> Heya,
> Now that we have the Second and Third Reich down, what was the first
> Reich?
> Matt

It's a little confused.  It's sort of Charlemagne's Empire, but it's more
the German part of it after his death.  (After Charlemagne's death, his
Empire was split into 3 pieces to 3 successors.  The German successor was
Otto ______ (can't remember).)  It was basically the Holy Roman Empire
back when it could have been considered a real state.

--Dan

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From: John Murray <jmurray@vt.edu>
Subject: Re: TMBG: moxy & BNL
Date: Wed, 18 Dec 1996 12:15:55 -0500 (EST)

> Matt James wrote:

> since I've never seen them live before (and I'll hopefully be at the 9:30
> club They show..does anyone know if tickets are still available?).

I not sure if it has sold out.  But you could check with pro-tix, and see
their number is 1-800-955-5566.

BTW, I'll be their and I have my ticket allready.

> I have info on the Moxy and BNL gigs so email me if you're interested.

Is any-one from Nothern VA or maybe other parts of the DC area, intressted
in setting up a road-tirp cause I would like to see the BNLs.  You can
e-mail at the address in my sig anytime.

--
John Murray -=- jmurray@vt.edu johns@tmbg.org -=- http://acm.vt.edu/~jmurray
The Unofficial Pritchard Home Page ->http://csugrad.cs.vt.edu/~murray/pritchard

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From: "Rensink, Brenden BHS" <brensink@bhs3.bham.wednet.edu>
Subject: TMBG: influence
Date: Wed, 18 Dec 96 12:21:00 P

Has anyone here heard of the wonderstuff?  The band.   Well anyways, I was
listening to their CD, and I noticed a large amount of MTBg influence.
 ACtually, I would venture to guess that the band  is tmbg fanatics.  I
mean, they used to be.  (they broke up)
   But has anyone else noticed this relation?

Reply to me.(directly)

AND the list

Brenden - nednerB
AKA - The Hypnotist of LAdies
~in alliance w/ the vigilant philibuster~
          misuser of verbs

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Subject: TMBG: Re: your mail
Date: Wed, 18 Dec 1996 13:01:49 -0600 (CST)
From: Chris Bongaarts <Chris.Bongaarts-1@umn.edu>

In the immortal words of Kathy and Ryan:

>How exactly do you pronounce "NNNNNNNNNNNNGGGGGGG?"

(1) Exactly as written.
(2) If you are a 500 pound gorilla, any way you want.

>P.S. How do i create .sig files?

Very carefully.

-CB (who is rewriting both of his sigs, and meantime uses this to
     avoid the new content > quoted content problem.)

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From: CyburDog@aol.com
Date: Wed, 18 Dec 1996 16:06:58 -0500
Subject: Re: TMBG: 3rd rock?? also Re:SEXXY single

What was the 3rd Rock reference to They?
Also...
My friend picked up the SEXXY single.. (last one in the store DAMMIT)
and I taped it and I can't stop listening to We've Got A World That Swings...
It's too bad all I have is the tape of it because I could put the CD on
repeat and listen to WGAWTS over and over and over and over and over and
overand over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over
and over and over and over and over and over and over and you get the
point...
The remix is OK... from what I heard it was just J and J repeating SEXXY but
they actually sing the song...
The radio mix I don't like as much as the LP ver. because there are less
strings... I like the strings....
Regarding SenSurround... I only heard the MMPR ver. once on a band trip to
FLA. I loved it but never could get the tune back in to my head so I don't
remember the Bah, Bah's
Unforgotten is my least favorite song on the single... which is not to say
it's bed... it is a good song...
sorry for this review post.. I know people are probably sick of them... but I
just had to...

Later,
TMB(do)G
"... All you need is love... John Lennon... very smart man..."- Judd Hirsch
from ID4

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Subject: TMBG: FS Tour Video Bootlegs for Trade!
From: garit@juno.com (Larry Santiago)
Date: Wed, 18 Dec 1996 16:07:33 EST

Hi folks!

Its time to offer my They Might Be Giants Factory Showroom tour video
bootlegs for trade.  Without further adieu, here they are:

1) 9/9/96 - Boston, MA - Hatch Shell - 80min
An outdoor show.  Interesting, except for the intermittent pass the guy
game.

2) 10/14/96 - Washington, D.C., - Taste Of D.C. - 90 min
Outdoor show. Well shot, about 5 rows back.  Includes closeups of both
Johns, as well as the infamous puppetheads.

3) 11/22/96 - Los Angeles, CA - Arons Records instore - 40min - Master
I shot this one myself, and I can ensure you that the quality is
excellent.  I was right in the front and got closeups of both Johns, even
extreme closeups.  Youd have to see it to believe it.  See Linnell dance
to Particle Man!  See Brian break his drumstick!  Observe their shameless
efforts to sell T-shirts!

4) 11/29/96 - Minneapolis, MN - Let It Be Records instore - 40min
Also shot in the front row, except that the cameraman was sitting down.
Makes the Giants look huge.  Fun to watch Linnell entertain the crowd
while Flans tries to figure out how to tune his guitar.  Probably the
last recorded appearance of Linnells lovely red accordian.
A real treat.

E-mail back to trade these videos.  Im looking for Barenaked Ladies
current mini-tour, TMBG current tour, Ben Folds Five, and Moxy Fruvous
tapes.  Thanks for reading and have a neat holiday!

Larry

"Let's make Friday part of a weekend and give every new baby a chocolate
eclair." - Moxy Fruvous

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Date: Wed, 18 Dec 1996 13:08:36 -0600 (CST)
From: Bill Tatalovich <wt3@cec.wustl.edu>
Subject: TMBG: fond farewell...for now

Hey there TMBG-ers...

I just posted to note that I am going to be unsubscribing from the list
for winter break, because I have no e-mail access at home, and you guys
post too damn many messages in a day.  Damn straight.  So anyways, I'd
just like to wish all of you a Merry Christmas, a Happy Hannukah, a Joyous
Kwanzaa, and a Terrific New Year.  For all of you seeing Barenaked Ladies
or Them on New Year's Eve, (and for that matter, Moxy Fruvous as well,
although I've never heard them) I hope you enjoy the shows.  I'll be lucky
if I see Guided By Voices on New Year's Eve (I'm assuming they'll come
home to Dayton, OH to play on NYE...I'm hoping).  So anyways, I'll see
y'all in January.  Peace out.

Oh yeah, and anyone I'm trading with right now, I'll get you the tapes
soon...I'm mailing them from home.  Anyone that has a trade in the works
with me, feel free to e-mail me...I can check from somewhere, I'm sure.

Bill Tatalovich
wt3@cec.wustl.edu

"There's lots of room for you on the bandwagon...."
        ---REM

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From: KdsInThHal@aol.com
Date: Wed, 18 Dec 1996 14:48:07 -0500
Subject: TMBG: radio/linnell/video/cornymags/equipment gossip

>I sometimes hear A TMBG song (Ana NG, Don't Lets Start,
>Birdhouse In Your Soul, S-E-X-X-Y, and Metal Detector).  Has
>any radio station had enough sense to play any other They
>song?
Yeah. Although out of those, my station hasn't played 'Metal Detector', I did
get them to play 'Dinner Bell' and 'Exquisite Dead Guy' (which I could have
said 'Metal Detector', but I guess I just wasn't thinking about it at the
time (?)). 'The Guitar' is played once in a while. Oh yeah, and one time a dj
played 'Hey, mr. dj....' because he couldn't play everyone's requests due to
lack of time. :D And Shep played the 'World's Address' remix for me once.

>Maybe Linell wear that odor that they sell that is supposed to
>drive women wild in 3 seconds?
Hee hee.. but I haven't seen him in person to smell him...-yet-! 8)

>Does any body know if there will be a video for FActroy
>Showroom
Well, there may be, but you know Elektra. If there will, it'd be 'S-E-X-X-Y'.

>I love to flip through those bizarre little magazines...that >Jonathan
Taylor Tomas kid is going to have some kind of
>complex when he gets older
I feel so bad for him. On the cover of all those corny magazines (yep...back
in my day it was saved by the bell and the new kids on the block <g>), so 8
year olds can hang his posters up and drewl over him...Hee hee..but this
headline thing sounds fun. I wann'try...
*special year-end hunk-fest issue!*
John Linnell! We drag out all the secrets... How does he like to be kissed?
..... John Flansburgh Q and A-- important stuff you'll only read here!
WITH "Ask Graham" and "Horoscopes by Dougherty"!
***
heee hee.. okay, maybe it's more like the year-end They-fest. ;)

>Does anyone know if they have gotten their items back or have
>gotten new equip? I hope they have by now...
Well, an online friend of an online friend of mine (actually I kind of know
her too) lives in NYC. And *her* friend owns or works at a music equipment
place, and Flans came in the other day. True story. Maybe instrument
shopping? Haha, back to my "Teen Beet reporter desk"! Lol.
~sarah :)
linnellgirl@tmbg.org
http://members.aol.com/kdsinthhal

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Date: Wed, 18 Dec 1996 14:12:14 -0500
From: BOBA <ondrey@trib.infi.net>
Organization: InfiNet
Subject: TMBG: Larry Santiago pls mail me

!
--
Matthew Ondrey

Boba@tmbg.org

http://boba.home.ml.org
http://bobasboots.home.ml.org
http://wendyrulz.home.ml.org

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Date: Wed, 18 Dec 1996 13:12:11 -0500
From: BOBA <ondrey@trib.infi.net>
Organization: InfiNet
Subject: TMBG: Larry Solomon pls mail me

Larry, I've lost your mailing address, please e-mail it to me

--
Matthew Ondrey

Boba@tmbg.org

http://boba.home.ml.org
http://bobasboots.home.ml.org
http://wendyrulz.home.ml.org

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Date: Wed, 18 Dec 1996 16:30:13 -0500
From: Daniel Fox <danielfox@pipeline.com>
Subject: TMBG: Re: Everything you know is wrong

Thsi was a style parody of the type of music TMBG does. Of corse it's kinda
exargerated but there are many simularitys.
I thought dabbling in the dark arts would be good for a chuckle...How wrong
I was.

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Date: Wed, 18 Dec 1996 14:38:58 -0500
From: Evan Chakroff <chakroff@ix.netcom.com>
Subject: Re: TMBG: Ng/etc

At 11:36 PM 12/17/96 -0500, you wrote:
>The name Ng is Chinese I am pretty sure.  Its most common among people
>from Hong Kong and most of the earlier immigrants from Hong Kong settled
>in NYC which is why the name was most prevalent there. You would probably
>not find the name nearly as much anywhere else.

Is the name Ng (more) common in NYC? Then maybe we should rethink where Ana
lives....

(maybe not)
--
Evan Chakroff
The Internet Mystery Spot
http://spot.home.ml.org
This Statement Is False

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From: Plaguerat2@aol.com
Date: Wed, 18 Dec 1996 13:20:38 -0500
Subject: TMBG: Re: tmbg-list Digest #2-346

hey everyone...im back...miss me?

anyone know why the dec 11 show at toad's in new haven ct was postponed?
we drove forty minutes and collected people from three states and the damn
show was postponed...

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Date: Wed, 18 Dec 1996 17:05:12 -0500
From: Adam Tyner <ctyner@awod.com>
Subject: Re: TMBG: 3rd rock?? also Re:SEXXY single

At 04:06 PM 12/18/96 -0500, you wrote:
>What was the 3rd Rock reference to They?

Dick was fishing through a Secret Santa bowl with different names and was
rattling off some of the names he read.  2 of the names were Flansburgh and
Linnell.

TTYL,

-Adam
/----=========================================----\
     http://www.awod.com/gallery/rwav/ctyner/
The home of He-Man, "Weird Al", Yoo-Hoo, and more!
ctyner@awod.com           O-         MiSTie #67,326

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Date: Wed, 18 Dec 1996 18:09:48 -0400
From: Merciless@vt.edu (McGing "the Merciless")
Subject: TMBG: Have a holly jolly Christmas, 9:30

    AS with many I'll be leaving for break so evryone hav a good holiday
season, and if any body from northern va is planning to go an a road trip
to see TMBG shows please contact me ASAP, I'll be in arlington tdec 29th to
jan 12th, so I'll miss the 9:30 show

############################################################################
##"For the first time I looked twords the uncertain future with a sense of
hope, because if a machine can learn the value of a human life than perhaps
we can to.
  -Linda Hamaltin
    (T2)

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Date: Wed, 18 Dec 1996 18:31:56 -0800
From: "." <.@..msu.edu>
Organization: .
Subject: TMBG: .

Ben Folds Five -- punk rock for sissies
 Green Day -- punk rock for the masses
 Presidents of the USA -- punk rock for teenagers
 They Might Be Giants -- punk rock for reactionary, defensive gays with
email
 Weird Al -- polka rock for sissies
 Fugazi -- punk rock for vegetarians
 Sex Pistols -- punk rock for purists
 Butthole Surfers -- punk rock for connoisseurs
 Archers of Loaf -- punk rock for members of Ben Folds Five

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Subject: Semi-TMBG: KITH and Red Dwarf
From: java.man@juno.com (Tim B Lloyd)
Date: Wed, 18 Dec 1996 18:41:55 EST

On Tue, 17 Dec 1996 18:03:30 -0500 GuavaBoy9@aol.com writes:
>I keep hearing about this (KITH)  I am assuming it is some sort of
>Television
>show.  I have also heard something about a TMBG song on the soundtrack
>(soundtrack of a TV show?)  Can anyone give me details including
>channel, and
>time?
I'll leave this one up to Sara.  Go visit your local video store and ask
for "Brain Candy," since I don't know much about KITH on TV.  <content
type=TMBG>Their song "Spiraling Shape" (one 'l') is on the soundtrack to
Brain Candy.</content>

>Also, I couldn't resist, but while writing about TV shows, is anyone
>on the
>list a fan of Red Dwarf?
Yup.  Smeg-head. :)

>All the pro-moderaters will probably kill me now.  Oh well.
HA ha ha ha ha ha ha.

Tim Lloyd
java.man@juno.com
"Excess ain't rebellion.  You're drinking what they're selling.
Your self-destruction doesn't hurt them.  Your chaos won't convert them."
-Cake

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From: wglodell@baraboo.com (Wyatt Glodell)
Subject: Re: TMBG: .
Date: Wed, 18 Dec 1996 17:53:29 -0600

> They Might Be Giants -- punk rock for reactionary, defensive gays with
>email
>
Is it just me, or is this supposed to be an insult. Now i have no (big)
problem with someone not liking tmbg, but if they're such idiots that
they'll go around calling fans stupid, i say pull out your E-MAIL BOMBER (i
have no e-mail bomber because they ususally req. win95, so someone else can
do it....) Am i being too mean? Go ahead and flame this message (not to the
list) if you want to

        And how could you call they punk rock...... Oh well....

        A rather annoyed (i guess that was the point of that) Wyatt

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From: "Maria, Nick" <Nick.Maria@restech.cra.com.au>
Subject: TMBG: More Ng (moring?)
Date: Thu, 19 Dec 1996 10:38:06 +1100

Hello there

Just a silly story I remember from my scrape-through-uni deliver-pizza
days.  One of the guys I worked with was called Jason Ng (confused me
about the song for a while because he didn't even have a hint of Asian
about him) and his girlfriend was called...um...Inga!!!

I used to amuse myself by working on her wedded name (assuming that it
was Jason she married and she took on his name).

Inga Ng! Inga Ng! Inga Ng! Inga Ng!  Put the right beat to it and it
sounds good.

I forgot to mention that I'm easily amused!!

Cheers and Beers
10000ft Septic

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From: CyburDog@aol.com
Date: Wed, 18 Dec 1996 19:57:20 -0500
Subject: TMBG: TMBG ON MTV!!!! ffuts rehto dna

You heard me right sportsfans!
If you were watching the special M2 preview on MTV at around 2:57 p.m. EST
Then you saw Don't Let's Start!!!!!
I LOVE THIS VIDEO!!!!
I don't have the entire compilation yet and this is the first time I have
seen this video...  except for the tidbit on the web sight...
I like the carpets and the big heads... But.. what is with Flan's psychotic
face in his close-ups?  Does anyone else think Flans looks a little too
happy?  That face is gonna haunt me in my dreams, man! But I am gonna enjoy
it!

Also... this is non-TMBG but it IS Mono Puff related...
I know the news group has talked about htis... but I never read the
messages... And I just got the CD so if I am bringing up an old thread don't
flame me...
Does anyone else notice the similarities between Flan's "Hello, Hello" and
Oasis' "Hello, Hello" they sound exactly the same... I have both CDs and
there is little difference in pitch... What is this all about?
Also... could someone get me up to date on the release of:
Then: The Early Years
And Super(Fuled??)Charged Freaksicle

Much abliged...
TMB(do)G
"And I've been standing slackjawed, since you were here..."- The Connells

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Date: Wed, 18 Dec 1996 20:02:34 -0500 (EST)
From: Ann Priestman <apries1@gl.umbc.edu>
Subject: TMBG: Re: Jeopardy

My first post!  Yay!

Today there was really a TMBG theme on Jeopardy.  Or maybe I'm
just imagining it because I'm thinking about the 9:30 Club show.
Anyway, the Expo '67 came up in a clue, there was a whole catagory on
"The Sun", one question being 'These two elements make up 95%
of the sun's mass' (Hydrogen and helium, of course), and in Final
Jeopardy, Istanbul was mentioned and someone put Constantinople as their
answer.  Make of this what you will.

Ann

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 18 Dec 1996 20:51:02 -0500
From: Evan Chakroff <chakroff@ix.netcom.com>
Subject: Re: Non-TMBG: .

At 05:53 PM 12/18/96 -0600, you wrote:
>> They Might Be Giants -- punk rock for reactionary, defensive gays with
>>email
>>
>Is it just me, or is this supposed to be an insult. Now i have no (big)
>problem with someone not liking tmbg, but if they're such idiots that
>they'll go around calling fans stupid, i say pull out your E-MAIL BOMBER (i
>have no e-mail bomber because they ususally req. win95, so someone else can
>do it....) Am i being too mean? Go ahead and flame this message (not to the
>list) if you want to

The problem is... No return address, and more importantly, no info in all
those other neat headers... i expect this is 'cause is was bounced through
the list... so the only person who could really do anything.....
--
Evan Chakroff
The Internet Mystery Spot
http://spot.home.ml.org
This Statement Is False

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Date: Wed, 18 Dec 1996 18:04:47 -0800
From: J Chen <alecson@ucla.edu>
Subject: TMBG: Ng

>>> It's pronounced "ing"  A friends of mine's roommates name is K. Ng.  I
>>> asked, and she is of Chinese decent, so....the whole Viatnamese thing has
>>> some more doubt cast upon it.

>>Yes, this is indeed true, I work with a guy from Hong Kong and his name
>>is Michael Ng, the last name being pronounced ING.

>The name Ng is Chinese I am pretty sure.  Its most common among people
>from Hong Kong and most of the earlier immigrants from Hong Kong settled
>in NYC which is why the name was most prevalent there. You would probably
>not find the name nearly as much anywhere else.

     Hmmm... They Might not Be a favorite of the Chinese... I guess there's
not a lot of Chinese people here.

     Well, I AM Chinese, but even I confess to having to resort to asking a
better Chinese expert: my father.  Here's what he told me about the name
spelled "Ng":

     If you meet a Chinese person with the name Ng, he/she is most likely
of Cantonese origin (for those who don't know, Chinese is spoken in many
different dialects; Mandarin is the main "official" dialect and is the most
spoken and taught dialect; the Cantonese dialect-speaking faction is
considerably smaller, but is very well-known because it is spoken a lot in
Hong Kong).

     Ng is the way this surname is spelled and pronounced in Cantonese.  It
sounds more like "ung," but a thick-accented Cantonese person probably
could pronounce it "ing."  However, the official pronunciation for this
name is supposed to be the same as the pronunciation for the number "five"
in Cantonese.  That would be "ung."  (To get even more picky, I could get
into tone, but...)

     In Mandarin, the character is pronounced "wu."  So a Mandarin-speaking
Chinese person wouldn't immediately recognize the name Ng unless that
person also knew some Cantonese.  I'm Mandarin, so I never knew the name
existed... until I asked about it.  In any case, someone with the name Wu
(or Woo) might possibly just have the Mandarin version of the name Ng.

     Finally, my dad says this word Ng might also be used by Vietnamese
people as a surname.  If I can find a Vietnamese person, I'll ask about it.
Perhaps the Johns weren't too far off in their explanation after all!

     Well, I'm off to go fight in the park...

======================
|  from    LVJeff    |_________________________________________________
|  1996 2-Cycle Rat  |   You, with the dark mood, and prone to brood  /
|  alecson@ucla.edu  |   You, with lack of pride, and prone to hide  /
======================   You, desiring praise, yet prone to laze    /
                         You,     you  are  not  the  one

------------------------------

From: CareBears9@aol.com
Date: Wed, 18 Dec 1996 21:15:17 -0500
Subject: Re: TMBG: TMBG ON MTV!!!! ffuts rehto dna

i saw that too!!! it suprised me to find them on MTV. that video is pretty
cool. a little wierd though :) but it's all good

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Date: Wed, 18 Dec 1996 21:52:13 -0500 (EST)
From: Tom Hare <tomhare@freenet.scri.fsu.edu>
Subject: Re: TMBG: .

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Tom Hare - It's not my birthday, so why do you lunge out at me? - TMBG
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On Wed, 18 Dec 1996, . wrote:

> Ben Folds Five -- punk rock for sissies
>  Green Day -- punk rock for the masses
>  Presidents of the USA -- punk rock for teenagers
>  They Might Be Giants -- punk rock for reactionary, defensive gays with
> email
>  Weird Al -- polka rock for sissies
>  Fugazi -- punk rock for vegetarians
>  Sex Pistols -- punk rock for purists
>  Butthole Surfers -- punk rock for connoisseurs
>  Archers of Loaf -- punk rock for members of Ben Folds Five
>
>
Well, this was obviously written by someone on the list who wanted to
piss everyone off, because it's called "reactionary defensive gays with
email" and that's the really only offensive one.  So, if we try to email
bomb the guy (girl), we'd just prove his point I suppose.

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Date: Wed, 18 Dec 1996 21:57:46 -0500 (EST)
From: cyberguy@netheaven.com (cyberguy)
Subject: TMBG: TMBG and video games.

        I've been thinking about this alot lately.  Do some people on the
list play video games (like me)?  Also, what's this I hear about Mammal
being on a Sega CD?

        TMBG:  The Movie?  I can picture it now:
Lunchboxes
Dolls
Video Games

        What would we put on the soundtrack, though?

Come visit http://www.netheaven.com/~cyberguy/index.html to see cyberguy's
webpage.
Last updated 12-1-96
IT'S ALL NEW!!!!!

Don't interrupt me as I struggle to complete this thought- TMBG

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From: gmn7y@uva.pcmail.virginia.edu
Date: Wed, 18 Dec 1996 22:07:41 -0500 (EST)
Subject: TMBG: 9:30 in store

Does anyone know if they're playing an in-store show on the day
of the 9:30 Club show?

Greg

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From: "Tim Lloyd" <omaha@tmbg.org>
Subject: not really TMBG: remote java.mail
Date: Wed, 18 Dec 1996 21:23:08 -0600

Just thought I should quote this here, as there seems to be some Frank
Zappa fans on the list.  For those of you non-FZers, "Weasels Ripped My
Flesh" is the name of a Frank Zappa and the Mothers of Invention album and
song.
<forwarded from Edupage>
E-MAIL STALKER
A Florida man has been sentenced to a year's probation and 200 hours of
community service after pleading no-contest to a charge of using his
computer for stalking another individual.  The man claims he was just
joking
when he sent the individual a series of threatening e-mail messages, one of
which said:  "How do you want to die!  I know your wife.  I know where you
live. Weasels will rip your flesh."  Police were able to trace the messages
after contacting the man's Internet Service Provider. (Washington Post 13
Dec 96)
</forwarded>

java.man from omaha@tmbg.org

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From: Jordan1c@aol.com
Date: Thu, 19 Dec 1996 00:12:50 -0500
Subject: Fwd: TMBG: .

In a message dated 96-12-18 18:35:06 EST, .@..msu.edu (.) writes:

<< Ben Folds Five -- punk rock for sissies
  Green Day -- punk rock for the masses
  Presidents of the USA -- punk rock for teenagers
  They Might Be Giants -- punk rock for reactionary, defensive gays with
 email
  Weird Al -- polka rock for sissies
  Fugazi -- punk rock for vegetarians
  Sex Pistols -- punk rock for purists
  Butthole Surfers -- punk rock for connoisseurs
  Archers of Loaf -- punk rock for members of Ben Folds Five
  >>

EVERYONE, i need you all to do me and everyone else on this wonderful list a
favor--
DO NOT RESPOND TO THIS. I REPEAT, DO NOT RESPOND TO THIS. IT WILL WASTE TIME
FOR ME AND EVERYONE ON THE LIST. IT IS JUST SOME LO-LIFE WHO SUBSCRIBED TO
THE LIST JUST TO INSULT US,AND HE IS NOT WORTH THINKING ABOUT. IT MIGHT EVEN
BE AN ENEMY OF MINE WHO WROTE THIS,SO PLEASE,IGNORE THIS!!!! im sure many
will agree with me on this.
thanks a lot
jordan

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Date: 96-12-18 18:35:06 EST

Ben Folds Five -- punk rock for sissies
 Green Day -- punk rock for the masses
 Presidents of the USA -- punk rock for teenagers
 They Might Be Giants -- punk rock for reactionary, defensive gays with
email
 Weird Al -- polka rock for sissies
 Fugazi -- punk rock for vegetarians
 Sex Pistols -- punk rock for purists
 Butthole Surfers -- punk rock for connoisseurs
 Archers of Loaf -- punk rock for members of Ben Folds Five

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