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          tmbg-list Digest, Volume 3, Number 181

                   Tuesday, 1 July 1997

Today's Topics:

                  TMBG: Dream- Long Post
               Re: TMBG: I have a question
           NON-TMBG: the Da Da Da song by Trio
          semi-TMBG: Australians in Sydney area?
               Re: TMBG: I have a question
         TMBG: another message which will vanish
               Re: TMBG: I have a question
                     TMBG: Re:YAZBEK
                Re: TMBG:85 Radio Special
              TMBG: question about trib tape
               Re: TMBG: I have a question
               Re: TMBG: I have a question
                  Re: NON-TMBG: dr. who
           Re: Quasi-TMBG: Mike Viola got gyped
         TMBG: mysterious Lincoln phone numbers!
                    TMBG: Turn Around
              TMBG: TMBG/Mono Puff for sale
            Re: TMBG: TMBG/Mono Puff for sale

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Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19970630230331.00690cb4@postoffice.sandybay.utas.edu.au>
Date: Mon, 30 Jun 1997 23:03:31 +1000
From: Brownie <slbrown@postoffice.utas.edu.au>
Subject: TMBG: Dream- Long Post

I have entered the "I've had a TMBG dream" club

My dream started with a group of us playing a trick for a TV show on a guy,
where we paint bomb a boat that he wanted repainting. The trick never
happenned but after a conversation with the guy we worked out he was Flans.
He was older, with shaved grey hair and ratty denim clothes. He invited us
to a concert they were playing in a park later.

Before the concert we were invited to play with the band. Everyone picked
up instruments and I sat down at a keyboard but Linnell turned up and said
it was his (Linnell was younger with blonde hair). I was led into a back
room by this model like woman and invited to choose an instrument. I chose
a coffee machine made into a harp. On my way out of a room I noticed all
these sticks with wooden doll's heads on them in a bucket.

We started playing, but two songs in realised we hadn't openned the
curtains. When we openned the curtains there were only a few people
listening, sitting on the grass.

Make of it what you will...

Brownie
--------------------------- tear here -------------------------------
Bad Movie Quote: "(she)-You've got good taste in clothes, good taste in
food...
(he)- Good taste in women too, I like your flavour!" North By Northwest
(Hitchcock)
ICQ: 1310725 http:www.geocities.com/Hollywood/6739/

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Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19970630230918.00740238@postoffice.sandybay.utas.edu.au>
Date: Mon, 30 Jun 1997 23:09:18 +1000
From: Brownie <slbrown@postoffice.utas.edu.au>
Subject: Re: TMBG: I have a question

At 11:09 PM 6/29/97 -0400, Gish145@aol.com wrote:
>I have a question. Do you think that the song on factory showroom is about
>life after death, or people living on with you in your heart after they die,
>or what?

I assume you mean Exquisite Dead Guy. I thought it was just about a corpse
that got around alot...

Brownie
--------------------------- tear here -------------------------------
Bad Movie Quote: "(she)-You've got good taste in clothes, good taste in
food...
(he)- Good taste in women too, I like your flavour!" North By Northwest
(Hitchcock)
ICQ: 1310725 http:www.geocities.com/Hollywood/6739/

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From: Russ Josephson (303) 684-4722 <russj@btc.adaptec.com>
Date: Mon, 30 Jun 97 09:34:25 MDT
Message-Id: <9706301534.AA08857@hops>
Subject: NON-TMBG: the Da Da Da song by Trio

The Da Da Da song by Trio

Dr. Demento played this song last night on his syndicated
radio show.  I, as usual, taped the entire show.

	Russ Josephson

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Berthoud, Colorado, USA                            mailto:russj@juno.com

"... not everyone is passionate about music ..."  --  Joe Jackson
"I took off the intellectuals, and put on There May Be Giants" -- Gloria
"It is by grace that we are saved, after all we can do" -- 2 Nephi 25:23
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Date: Mon, 30 Jun 1997 10:19:41 -0700 (PDT)
From: "'Lani' N Olson" <lanio@u.washington.edu>
Subject: semi-TMBG: Australians in Sydney area?
Message-ID: <Pine.A41.3.95b.970630100451.64416A-100000@dante04.u.washington.edu>

Hi!  Anyone live in or near Sydney?  I'm hoping to go on a trip to that
area with some marching band people next summer (end of June/beginning of
July), and I thought it might be cool to meet some other TMBG fans at the
other end of the world!  Um, I do have an ulterior motive here,
too...We're planning on doing some homestays and stuff...and if anyone
might share some living space for any amount of time within the two weeks
(I think) that we'll be there, that would be awesome!  Wouldn't it?  Don't
you think?  Wouldn't you like to host me and/or maybe one or two other
They fans?  Yes?

Even if you don't have room for me or any of my friends, let me know if
you want to get together or anything.  It is a whole year away, but I'm
planning already.  Email me if you're interested!  :)

 -Lani O:)
lanio@u.washington.edu     * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Lani's Inverse Home Page:  http://weber.u.washington.edu/~lanio/
TMBG, chickens, Washington State Listies, They Might be Food, and more!
    _______________________________________________________________
           There's a place for those who love their poetry
        It's just across from the sign that says, 'Pros only'
					-They Might Be Giants
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Message-Id: <3.0.32.19970630133308.00692220@email.uc.edu>
Date: Mon, 30 Jun 1997 13:36:55 +0100
From: "%^)" <garverhl@email.uc.edu>
Subject: Re: TMBG: I have a question

>At 11:09 PM 6/29/97 -0400, Gish145@aol.com wrote:
>>I have a question. Do you think that the song on factory showroom is about
>>life after death, or people living on with you in your heart after they die,
>>or what?
>
>I assume you mean Exquisite Dead Guy. I thought it was just about a corpse
>that got around alot...
>
Could Exquisite Dead Guy, by this particular interpretation (dead guy
getting around a lot), be a reference to the novel As I Lay Dying by
Faulkner?
Heather Garver
University of Cincinnati
garverhl@email.uc.edu
http://www.eng.uc.edu/~hgarver
http://www.geocities.com/Colosseum/Track/4066 (Heather's Hockey Headquarters)

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From: MegaMind0@aol.com
Date: Mon, 30 Jun 1997 13:39:41 -0400 (EDT)
Message-ID: <970630133936_-1643134278@emout11.mail.aol.com>
Subject: TMBG: another message which will vanish

In a message dated 97-06-30 02:11:25 EDT, you write:

<< Also, did they just speed up and slow down the recording to achieve that
 funky/psycho effect? >>
I think it was done on a reel-to-reel tape, which you can speed and slow by
hand... I did a similar effect in a media class last semester.  I don't
really know any other way to do it, if I'm wrong someone tell me so.

--Bernie, who has now had THREE messages vanish!!

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Message-Id: <3.0.32.19970630120305.007a1810@mail.cadvision.com>
Date: Mon, 30 Jun 1997 12:03:07 -0600
From: David Bryan <bryand@cadvision.com>
Subject: Re: TMBG: I have a question

At 11:09 PM 30/06/97 +1000, you wrote:

>>I have a question. Do you think that the song on factory showroom is about
>>life after death, or people living on with you in your heart after they die,
>>or what?
>
>I assume you mean Exquisite Dead Guy. I thought it was just about a corpse
>that got around alot...

Whenever I hear the "rotating in his display case" line, I can't help but
think of Lenin's tomb.

--
Sometimes you need a kick in the butt, sometimes you need to avoid one,
and sometimes you need to pad your pants with Jell-O.
http://www.geocities.com/Tokyo/4584/

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Message-ID: <33B8053A.3818@pacificnet.net>
Date: Mon, 30 Jun 1997 12:13:02 -0700
From: Bongo <ggr@pacificnet.net>
Subject: TMBG: Re:YAZBEK

> Yes, Yazbek, or "David" Yazbek as he is sometimes known,
>has one album out on What Are Records... it's an absolutely delicious
>collection of pop gems that'll keep you coming back for more. VERY clever
>wordplay... IMHO, one of the absolute greatest & catchiest albums of1996. A must-have for any TMBG/XTC fan! =)

       I just got Yazbek's "Laughing Man" CD this weekeend and I
definately reccomended it. This is coming from someone who is very picky
about the other bands that are often brought up here. (I'm not too
impressed with Ben Folds, Squirrel NZ, Moxy Fruvous)
You can hear a some Yazbek at   www.yazbek.com .  Also read his bio. Its
very funny and interesting.

-B    O    N    G    O
_________________________________
"Which side of the tracks are you on?
Both sides because the world is round."
                   -Geggy Tah

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Message-Id: <3.0.2.32.19970630153711.006d6790@mail.ee.net>
Date: Mon, 30 Jun 1997 15:37:11 -0400
From: Evan Chakroff <chakroff@ee.net>
Subject: Re: TMBG:85 Radio Special

tmbgdhutch@juno.com wrote:
>Also, did they just speed up and slow down the recording to achieve that
>funky/psycho effect?

They simply loaded the file into their handy-dandy sound editor, and
compressed/expanded the waveform to meet their goals!

(remembers that this was from *The Eighties*)

Or they sped up/slowed down the tape... just like the "Talking" Ninja
Turtles action figures, in which you had to pull the cord *really* fast or
it just sounded like nothing... unless I had the thing in upside-down the
whole time...

-ec

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Date: Mon, 30 Jun 1997 15:08:32 -0500 (CDT)
From: Bill Tatalovich <wt3@cec.wustl.edu>
Subject: TMBG: question about trib tape
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.96.970630150447.24333B-100000@ritz.cec.wustl.edu>

Hey all--

Bill Tatalovich here, still at home in Ohio trying to enjoy the summer.
And I'm still not on the list.  I just figured I'd post in order to ask a
question.  Does anyone know the current status of We Might be Giants, Too?
I'm kind of curious to see if it is ever going to see the light of day.
Could someone with information about it please e-mail me privately?  I
obviously can't read messages posted to the list.  Thanks a lot.   See all
of you back on the list in August....

And for those of you who haven't looked yet, my web page about the TMBG
list survey is up at:
	http://www.cec.wustl.edu/~wt3/tmbgsurvey.html
Leo still isn't giving me any press about this, so I guess I have to plug
it myself.  See ya.

Bill Tatalovich
wt3@cec.wustl.edu

"I'm an island of such great complexity..."
	--Pavement

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Message-ID: <33B8133A.7DC5@geocities.com>
Date: Mon, 30 Jun 1997 13:12:42 -0700
From: Vladimir Drakul <vlad_drakul@geocities.com>
Subject: Re: TMBG: I have a question

David Bryan wrote:
>
> At 11:09 PM 30/06/97 +1000, you wrote:
>
> >>I have a question. Do you think that the song on factory showroom is about
> >>life after death, or people living on with you in your heart after they die,
> >>or what?
> >
> >I assume you mean Exquisite Dead Guy. I thought it was just about a corpse
> >that got around alot...
>
> Whenever I hear the "rotating in his display case" line, I can't help but
> think of Lenin's tomb.
>
> --
> Sometimes you need a kick in the butt, sometimes you need to avoid one,
> and sometimes you need to pad your pants with Jell-O.
> http://www.geocities.com/Tokyo/4584/

I heard it was based on a game called "The Exquisite Corpse" in which you make up a
sentence, one word at a time with different people.  Idunno how it's played.

BTW, I'm trying to snag an interview with onee o' the Johns.  What should I ask?
BESIDES the lyrics to Become A Robot?

--
Vladimir Drakul -- http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Heights/7343/
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"So the winds swept the Whirlpool across the sky..."
		-Meat Puppets, Whirlpool

"NO!  Not the red button!!"
		-Fester Shinetop

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Date: Mon, 30 Jun 1997 15:15:09 -0600 (MDT)
Message-Id: <199706302115.PAA03089@alpha.psd.k12.co.us>
From: Dave Simpson <dsimpson@alpha.psd.k12.co.us>
Subject: Re: TMBG: I have a question

At 11:09 PM 6/29/97 -0400, you wrote:
>I have a question. Do you think that the song on factory showroom is about
>life after death, or people living on with you in your heart after they die,
>or what?
Probably life after death.  However, it would help if we knew exactly what song
you were referring to.

Dave Simpson

        LotharCo
                A subgroup of "stuff"

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Date: Mon, 30 Jun 1997 17:21:14 -0500 (EST)
From: Queen Sneepy <smelliot@indiana.edu>
Subject: Re: NON-TMBG: dr. who
Message-ID: <Pine.HPP.3.91.970630171736.23157A-100000@falstaff.ucs.indiana.edu>

On Fri, 27 Jun 1997, Matthew James wrote:

> So what did the Johns do in their past lives, I assume that they have
> grown up and become children many times, but were they involved in
> music, or are they a sort of eclectic, renaissance group doing many
> different things over their many lives?  Also, can they be killed like a
> normal human, as Dr. Who would and are they given an unlimited
> regenerations, making them gods?
> Questions to ponder over...
>
I can't believe that we're all still discussing this... :)  My personal
theory is that music is something new that they've picked up, or maybe
decided to do as a career.  But I think it's one reason that JL knows so
many instruments- he's had a long time to learn them, along with
furniture making and engravings...as far as life span goes, however, I
don't know.  They are enigmas, and it is not for us to question, I
suppose.  Gods?  Maybe.  But this all leads me to ask what Flans has been
doing all this time.  Why is it we've found evidence of Linnells in
history, but no Flansburghs?  I think it is definitely something to look
out for.

Stefanie Elliott
smelliot@falstaff.ucs.indiana.edu
*http://copper.ucs.indiana.edu/~smelliot/home.html
Craig Kilborn is cool! http://copper.ucs.indiana.edu/~smelliot/craig.html
I'm NOT judgmental. I ACCEPT that we're all different -- some of us are
just a little TALLER than others."
-Craig Kilborn.  And oh, how true that is.

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Date: Mon, 30 Jun 1997 17:31:51 -0500 (EST)
From: Queen Sneepy <smelliot@indiana.edu>
Subject: Re: Quasi-TMBG: Mike Viola got gyped
Message-ID: <Pine.HPP.3.91.970630172655.23157D-100000@falstaff.ucs.indiana.edu>

On Sun, 29 Jun 1997 Christi587@aol.com wrote:

> Yes, someone *is* lying.
>
> And so, Mike Viola wrote and performed an Oscar-nominated (!!!) song for a
> major hit movie (without which, the movie's premise would have been lost) and
> got basically no credit and no compensation for it. Mike now toils in
> relative obscurity, with no released album and (one assumes) very little
> chance of becoming the big fat rock star he deserves to be. This is life,
> kiddies. Be afraid... be very afraid.
>
I heard the song for the first time this week end, and I was listening
carefully, and it sounded like Adam Schlesinger to me.  I guess I just
don't understand why there wasn't any more investigation into the
incident- why didn't Mike Viola raise a bigger stink about the theft of
his song?  How can AS get all of the credit if MV so obviously wrote and
sang the song?  I mean, if all of this was true, why hasn't MV tried to
sue AS or the movie and get his credit and money for the song?  I guess
this is why I find this story to be so hard to believe...

Stefanie Elliott
smelliot@falstaff.ucs.indiana.edu
*http://copper.ucs.indiana.edu/~smelliot/home.html
Craig Kilborn is cool! http://copper.ucs.indiana.edu/~smelliot/craig.html
I'm NOT judgmental. I ACCEPT that we're all different -- some of us are
just a little TALLER than others."
-Craig Kilborn.  And oh, how true that is.

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Message-Id: <3.0.32.19970630153834.00714a20@peseta.ucdavis.edu>
Date: Mon, 30 Jun 1997 15:38:41 -0700
From: Nicole the Wonder Nerd <ana.ng@tmbg.org>
Subject: TMBG: mysterious Lincoln phone numbers!

>I have a question. Do you think that the song on factory showroom is about
>life after death, or people living on with you in your heart after they die,
>or what?

Um... specifically, which FS song?  There are 14 of them, and some of them
have nothing to do with death.  Perhaps you mean Exquisite Dead Guy?  The
Johns characterize that one as a song of admiration for a departed hero,
which I think is about right.  I think it's about a guy who goes to pay his
last respects to a person he admired in life, and later finds himself
haunted by the image of the corpse.

>Also, did they just speed up and slow down the recording to achieve that
>funky/psycho effect?

Dunno.  My sister and I, when we were quite small, spent many a happy hour
experimenting with a friend's cheap synth.  It had a little microphone, and
if you spoke into it and simultaneously tweaked a little knob, your voice
would come out distorted and psycho sounding.  That's what I thought of
when I heard 85 Radio Special Thank You for the first time, anyway.

>Um, sorry to do this, but is there anyone out there? The list and digest
>have been real quiet lately...

Yeah, I've noticed.  Our membership always drops during the summer,
although the size of yesterday's digest was perhaps a bit extreme.  There's
only one cure for the disappearing digest blues, folks--post!  Let's hear
your groovy interps, thoughts on TMBG-related conspiracy theories, etc.

>There is a phone number in the C.D. Lincoln. I am a "newby" ,very
>confused ,but I am selfless,cold and composed (-Ben Folds Five).
>Jamie Lincoln Kitman 201.886.8416

*nicole pulls out her copy of Lincoln* Why, so there is.  It's the phone
number of Jamie Kitman, TMBG's very own Manager of Steel.  If you ever win
the lottery and decide that you want to organize a TMBG concert as part of
your (chose one) bar mitzvah/high school prom/wedding/birthday party, you
might try giving Mr. Kitman a call.  And if he says yes, put me down for a
ticket.  :)
(unrelated but interesting side note--a friend of mine very nearly got
Skankin' Pickle to play at our junior prom.  They're a local band for us,
and my friend was Junior Class President, so we thought we had a shot.
They said yes, and everyone was happy until a week before the prom, when
they cancelled unexpectedly.  They wanted more $.  :(  Such are the
vagaries of the music world.)
There are several phone numbers in Lincoln, in fact.  But the only really
interesting one, to us, is (718) 387-6962.  I urge you to call it if you
haven't already done so.

>Fortunately, I had already posted the entire article (and a goodly
>amount of time it took to type it, too) to this very list. Of course, nobody
>took any notice of it at the time. Nobody ever listens to me... sigh...
>nobody loves me! <sob>

There, there, Christy, *I* love you.  *hug*  And I do remember that
article, and I remain angered at the forces that conspire to keep the Candy
Butchers out of their richly deserved limelight.
What's the skinny on the OMLTs?

--nicole the wonder nerd
had a marginally TMBG-related dream last night... I dreamed that I was
riding a motorcycle *extremely fast* on the freeway, when it started to
fall apart.  So to calm myself down, I sang Ana Ng to myself.
***
"Circumstances eat themselves.  The present tense has been."--Moxy Fruvous
Visit Nicolopolis! http://wwwcsif.cs.ucdavis.edu/~carlsonn
nmcarlson@ucdavis.edu   carlsonn@cs.ucdavis.edu   ana.ng@tmbg.org

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Date: Mon, 30 Jun 1997 17:54:12 -0500 (EST)
From: Queen Sneepy <smelliot@indiana.edu>
Subject: TMBG: Turn Around
Message-ID: <Pine.HPP.3.91.970630175001.23157F-100000@falstaff.ucs.indiana.edu>

I was at my cousin's bat mitzvah in Chicago this weekend, and during the
service the cantor sang this song called "Turn Around."  Naturally, I had
to supress the urge to laugh, because I was trying to imaging a. what
this song was really like, and b. what it would be like if it was the
song I thought it was.  But it wasn't TMBG, but a song that did sound
quite a bit like it, much to my surprise.  The chorus, though different,
went something like this, "Turn around, you're born.  Turn around, you're
walking..."  Those aren't really the words , but you get the picture.
What I'm asking is, has anyone heard this song before and can see what I
mean?  When she started to sing the chorus, all I could hear was "Turn
around, there's a human skull on the ground..."

Stefanie Elliott
smelliot@falstaff.ucs.indiana.edu
*http://copper.ucs.indiana.edu/~smelliot/home.html
Craig Kilborn is cool! http://copper.ucs.indiana.edu/~smelliot/craig.html
I'm NOT judgmental. I ACCEPT that we're all different -- some of us are
just a little TALLER than others."
-Craig Kilborn.  And oh, how true that is.

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From: PACQUISTO@aol.com
Date: Tue, 1 Jul 1997 01:10:35 -0400 (EDT)
Message-ID: <970701011035_-24775644@emout16.mail.aol.com>
Subject: TMBG: TMBG/Mono Puff for sale

I'm willing to sell my They Might Be Giants Hats shirt and brand new Mono
Puff - Devil Went Down to Newport 2-song vinyl ep including Pretty Fly by
Sister Puff (Flans wife, Robin).  They will go to the highest biders.

nick

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Date: Tue, 1 Jul 1997 01:20:13 -0400 (EDT)
Message-Id: <1.5.4.16.19970701012655.296783dc@postoffice.yorku.ca>
From: "The Famous Mr. Klaw" <yu108533@YorkU.CA>
Subject: Re: TMBG: TMBG/Mono Puff for sale

Hi Nick

>I'm willing to sell my They Might Be Giants Hats shirt and brand new Mono
>Puff - Devil Went Down to Newport 2-song vinyl ep including Pretty Fly by
>Sister Puff (Flans wife, Robin).  They will go to the highest biders.

Are you only accepting money, or would you be willing to trade?  I'm
interested in the 2 song vinyl ep, and would be willing to trade several
TMBG bootlegs for this item.  My bootlist is at
http://www.yucc.yorku.ca/~flippy/tmbg/tmbgxxx.html  If you are interested,
please let me know.  Thanks

Alex

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