Errors-To: owner-tmbg-digest@tmbg.org Reply-To: tmbg-digest@tmbg.org Sender: owner-tmbg-digest@tmbg.org Precedence: bulk From: owner-tmbg-digest@tmbg.org To: tmbg-digest@tmbg.org Subject: tmbg-list Digest #3-210 tmbg-list Digest, Volume 3, Number 210 Wednesday, 30 July 1997 Today's Topics: TMBG: Wedding bells ... TMBG: Bootlegs Re: Non-TMBG: MacArthur Park Re: TMBG: Shoehorn with Teeth interp Re: TMBG: Max Points? Re: TMBG: Bootleg Drama Re: TMBG: Oregon TMBG: listmembers who are in bands Re: TMBG: Mono Puff Re: TMBG: Re: Single Debate... Re: TMBG: Re: strange concert people Re: TMBG: Wedding bells ... Re: TMBG: Max Points? Re: TMBG: Mono Puff (fwd) TMBG: 1:1 vs 2:1 TMBG: MAX POINTS Re: TMBG: Bootleg Drama TMBG: Johns do enjoy what they do... Re: TMBG: listmembers who are in bands Re: TMBG: Oregon Re: TMBG: Johns do enjoy what they do... Re: TMBG: RE: Soul coughing thank yous Re: TMBG: listmembers who are in bands Re: TMBG: Max Points? Re: TMBG: 1:1 vs 2:1 TMBG: Re: The amazing Linnell lookalikes Re: TMBG: Mono Puff (fwd) Re: TMBG: Oregon Re: TMBG: RE: Soul coughing thank yous Re: TMBG: Max Points? TMBG:Pencils TMBG: Radio news Re: TMBG: Re: The amazing Linnell lookalikes TMBG: Change My World? TMBG: Dream TMBG: ReFueled TMBG: Call for remixes Administrivia: If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing send mail to tmbg-digest-request@tmbg.org for instructions on how to be automatically removed. --------------------------------------------------------------------- The views expressed herein are those of the individual authors. --------------------------------------------------------------------- tmbg-list is digested with Digest 3.3d (John Relph ). ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: cdanve10@scu.edu.au Date: Tue, 29 Jul 1997 16:48:55 +1000 Message-Id: <1.5.4.16.19970729170212.256724fe@students.scu.edu.au> Subject: TMBG: Wedding bells ... I think that 100,000 is a bit much .... i think you could get they at you wedding for as little as 10,000 if you timed it right ..... Also I have Live in new york on cd ............ should that make you jelous ? The australian cd ( and it is a seperate cd) has in this order ; Don't let's start , anna ng , particle man ( alternate version ) , bird house in your soul , the statue got me high , and twistin . That 26 track one sounds heaps better ( less greatest hits ) So-man ------------------------------ Message-Id: <3.0.32.19970729000910.006f0300@peseta.ucdavis.edu> Date: Tue, 29 Jul 1997 00:09:27 -0700 From: Nicole the Wonder Nerd Subject: TMBG: Bootlegs >I was just looking through all the interps, and I saw a reference to the >song MacArthur Park (relating to "It's Not My Birthday"). Now what I >remember of the song is stuck in my head, which is not much since I >haven't heard it in years. Can anyone help me out and tell me who >performed it and/or where I could get a copy? I'd be ever so grateful. Bletch. You're kidding, right? MacArthur Park was voted the Worst Song Ever in Dave Barry's Bad Song Survey. If you must... it's performed by Richard Harris, and it's from the '70's. >> Except for the fact that bootlegging is generally considered illegal in >> the first place and accepting something illegal could be considered >> illegal in and of itself (or is bootlegging legal in certain >> circumstances?). >The whole thing is illegal! It's exchange of copied music without payment >to the authors! It doesn't matter to me, but it's all against the law, so >why are you all worried about being p.c. about it. Bootlegging is in a gray area. Technically it probably is illegal, but then again so is jaywalking. Bands (and their lawyers) realize two things: a) people who trade boots are likely to already own everything else the band has done, making it unclear what the band is losing by allowing tape trades, and b) it's free publicity. Most bands, therefore, do not object to live taping. Some (Grateful Dead, Eddie From Ohio, Moxy Fruvous) even encourage it, and most others (including our own TMBG) at least turn a blind eye to it. Bands have very little to lose and a LOT to gain by letting their fans trade live tapes. Selling bootlegs is a different matter. So is trading a dubbed copy of a major release. My own rule of thumb is "don't offer anything that the other guy could easily find." I trade live tapes and out-of-print stuff only. (And yes, I do 1:1.) >Do you think it >makes me a better fan if I get those TMBG and MT? You can do it if you want, if you're a collector or something. Personally, I wouldn't. But what am I talking about? I got T:TEY even though I already had TPA, Linc, and Misc. T. (Of course, my copy of Lincoln skipped so much that it was becoming darn near unlistenable, and I was hunting for an excuse to replace it... but I digress.) > One more thing, is live in New York an album? >You can get Live in New York in a double CD set of John Henry. It's an >Australian import, but well worth the extra cost. LINY was an Elektra promotional release, back in '94. It's *extremely* difficult to find. You might be able to get it through Hello (it's included with the Monster Pack), but that's by no means a safe bet. If you're desperate you can find about 6 of the tracks from LINY on the Aussie import of JH, but be prepared to shell out about $30. IMHO, it ain't worth it, inasmuch as it's only a fraction of the tracks on LINY. You'd be better off asking someone to trade you a dub of it. I might even, if you ask nicely. :) > I was just wondering if any of you more experienced bootleg traders >(or just people who are smarter than me) know what to do with these little >max points that come with all these tapes... i have quite a bit of them, but >no idea what to do... it prolly says on the package... but you know me... >never read the instructions when you can ask someone else.. :) Maybe we should all join forces... collectively we prolly have mountains of the darn things, enough to redeem for whatever we want. (How 'bout a TMBG Lear Jet? :) No, j/k. I don't know what to do with the darn things, either... I just throw 'em away, along with the General Mills points on my cereal boxes. >me: "Is this that 'sexy' group?" >I gave him an odd look. >"You know," he said, " That S-E-X-X-Y group. Is this that CD?" > "Um, yes and no, respectively." >there you have it folks. tmbg are now "sexy." Huh. I didn't think SEXXY was that well-known. Last December I ordered from the Info Club, and two weeks (!) later, the guys at my dorm's package pickup desk informed me, amidst much snickering, that I had a box with "25 sexy cd's" waiting for me. Turns out the Info Club ships in whatever boxes they have lying around... in this case, one that had formerly held copies of SEXXY. I was muchly embarrassed, but got over it fast. --nicole the wonder nerd *** "Simulaneous events don't happen. We are isolated temporally."--They Might Be Giants Visit Nicolopolis! http://wwwcsif.cs.ucdavis.edu/~carlsonn ncarlson@mail.arc.nasa.gov nmcarlson@ucdavis.edu carlsonn@cs.ucdavis.edu ana.ng@tmbg.org #include std_disclaimer ------------------------------ Message-ID: <33DDCFFA.2B25@tmbg.org> Date: Tue, 29 Jul 1997 04:11:55 -0700 From: Ruprecht Organization: Representatives of the People of Here Subject: Re: Non-TMBG: MacArthur Park squeak! wrote: > > I was just looking through all the interps, and I saw a reference to the > song MacArthur Park (relating to "It's Not My Birthday"). Now what I > remember of the song is stuck in my head, which is not much since I > haven't heard it in years. Can anyone help me out and tell me who > performed it and/or where I could get a copy? I'd be ever so grateful. MacArthur Park is performed by Richard Harris, an actor. It's written by Jimmy Webb. I recall hearing about a year ago or so that it was voted the worst song ever in some poll. The 45 Single that I hold in my hands at the moment was released on Dunhill, A Subsidiary of ABC records. The single is apparently from "A Tramp Shining," an LP on the same label, but serious doubt is cast in the direction of finding either of these today outisde of holding up an oldies radio station. -- I don't know what that woman needs, but I'd love to give it to her. --"Choose Me" \/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/ http://freshnet.de/user/ruprecht/ * Now in FreshNet Vision * ------------------------------ Message-ID: <33DDD35E.4368@tmbg.org> Date: Tue, 29 Jul 1997 04:26:22 -0700 From: Ruprecht Organization: Representatives of the People of Here Subject: Re: TMBG: Shoehorn with Teeth interp squeak! wrote: > > Here's my interpretation of the song "Shoehorn With Teeth" from the album > "Lincoln". > > Personally, I believe the song supports an atheist sort of viewpoint, or > at least mocks religion... here's why: > > "He wants a shoehorn, the kind with teeth > People should get beat up for statin' their beliefs" > > OK, here we learn a few things about the subject of the song. He wants a > shoehorn with teeth (representation of a god), and thinks that people > shouldn't be allowed to state beliefs (unless they agree with his). Hold it... I'm quite aware that some atheists have a tendency to beat people over the head with their faithlessness, and become somewhat mocking, but I've heard of few who care particularly what other people have to say. At this current point is my life I don't particularly believe in God, for reasons which are too lengthy and unimportant to be discussed here, but I also have an ethic in which I make no attempts to dissuade people from their beliefs. I think it's fantastic if someone has something to believe in, as long as they don't think that they must now dissuade me from my godlessness, perhaps this is not how all athiestic type people tend to be, but I don't think many of them are too interested in your first ammendment right. Note: if you seem to think now would be a good time to evangelize me, read above. -- I don't know what that woman needs, but I'd love to give it to her. --"Choose Me" \/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/ http://freshnet.de/user/ruprecht/ * Now in FreshNet Vision * ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Jul 1997 06:37:43 -0400 (EDT) From: Darlington Darling Subject: Re: TMBG: Max Points? Message-ID: On Mon, 28 Jul 1997, Dylan Flipse wrote: > > I was just wondering if any of you more experienced bootleg traders > >(or just people who are smarter than me) know what to do with these little > >max points that come with all these tapes... i have quite a bit of them, but > >no idea what to do... it prolly says on the package... but you know me... > >never read the instructions when you can ask someone else.. :) > > Yessir. It used to be that you could take them and get shirts and such. That > is sadly no longer the case. They are now, like, status symbols. Something > like that. I'd recommend plastering a school notebook with them. I'm sure > Lawrence has his house wall-papered with them. That's it really. Actually, TDK has a special offer that I believe is about to end -- you send them 1,000 Max Pts. and they send you 10 TDK 100 min. SA-X tapes for $5 s/h (not as good as Maxell XLII but a good deal nonetheless). www.tdk.com \\\\ (X X) []/------------------------------\[]/-----------------ooOo-( )-oOoo------\[] [] Josh Woodward: joshw@tmbg.org [] "She's a brick and I'm drowning [] [] Internet Tech. - Marathon Oil [] slowly, off the coast and I'm headed [] [] Homepage and tape trade list: [] nowhere. She's a brick and I'm [] [] http://www.dc-adnet.com/joshw [] drowning slowly." --BFF [] []\---------TMBG #20999----------/[]\--------------Dial-A-Sig------------/[] ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Jul 1997 06:59:27 -0400 (EDT) From: Darlington Darling Subject: Re: TMBG: Bootleg Drama Message-ID: On Mon, 28 Jul 1997, 'Lani' N Olson wrote: > OK, I haven't done much trading, so I probably shouldn't jump in here, but > here's what I've gathered from this discussion: A 1:1 trade is not really > a "trade" since nothing is exchanged. It is merely one person doing > something nice (ie copying some of his/her tapes) for someone else. A 2:1 > is a real trade since the person gets an extra blank tape and the newbie > gets a brand spankin' new tape-o-music. Since no money is exchanged... > only a mutual exchange of "gifts" That's the thing. The second tape that the dubber keeps is NOT a gift. It was required as a term of the trade. No, it's not money, but to a trader, it's just as good as money. > So it just depends on whether the person is really generous and wants to > copy a tape for the warm & fuzzy feeling it gives him/her to spread the > word of TMBG to his/her fellow human beings, or whether he/she would > rather receive a gift in exchange to acknowledge the trouble he/she went > to, which seems perfectly reasonable to me. Ok, looking at this from a semi-experienced standpoint, the traders who are offering 1:1 trades (and 2:1 for that matter) are the ones who have a lot of stuff to offer, and who have been trading for awhile. This means that they know the game, and most likely have their decks ready to dub at any moment. When I get blanks for a 1:1 trade, it's all good because I: 1. Open the envelope (10 seconds) 2. Unwrap a tape (15 seconds) 3. Pop the blank in. (2 seconds) 4. Find the tape they want, pop that in. (10 seconds) 5. Push record on one deck and play on the other. (.5 seconds) 6. Wait and make sure levels are ok (10 seconds) 7. Grab a pre-made label from the master case (4 seconds) 8. Put the pre-made label in place (5 seconds) 9. Flip the tape when it's done (2 seconds) 10. Pop it out, put it in the case, put it in the SASE, seal it, and pop it on my pile of other trades to send out. (30 seconds) This is about 1 minute, and 28.5 seconds of my life spend doing this. Add a little more for two tapes (which is the limit I'll do of 1:1). I usually have 1:1 trades out the next day. Before I knew better, I did 2:1 blank trades because every other TMBG trader did. Then I realized that there IS right and wrong with this. 2:1 is profit, no matter how you care to look at it. You're paying a dubber a blank tape (which may have cost you a few bucks depending on where you get it) to copy you one. Postage is only about $1.50 for two tapes, and most 2:1 traders even requre you to pay this! C'mon, TMBG traders.. learn the ettiquite that the other, larger groups of traders accepted years ago.. \\\\ (X X) []/------------------------------\[]/-----------------ooOo-( )-oOoo------\[] [] Josh Woodward: joshw@tmbg.org [] If you really want to see me check [] [] Internet Tech. - Marathon Oil [] the papers and the TV; look who's [] [] Homepage and tape trade list: [] telling who what to do. Kiss my ass. [] [] http://www.dc-adnet.com/joshw [] --BFF [] []\---------TMBG #20999----------/[]\--------------Dial-A-Sig------------/[] ------------------------------ Message-ID: <33DE1181.35A3@ix.netcom.com> Date: Tue, 29 Jul 1997 08:51:29 -0700 From: Amanda Nichols Organization: WECB Subject: Re: TMBG: Oregon HEY! WHat's wrong with the Maine song? Being from Maine, I relate to it well. A ------------------------------ Message-Id: <3.0.2.32.19970729090156.0068bbd8@email.acd.net> Date: Tue, 29 Jul 1997 09:01:56 -0400 From: amy beth geerling Subject: TMBG: listmembers who are in bands i am working for a tshirt company for the summer ( a screenprinter's) and we do really really cheeeep shirts... if anyone is interested, checkout our website,...it's sorta ugly, but like i said, the shirts are dirt cheep... http://www.raintreescreenprint.com they specialize in nonforprofit groups etc... and theyre really cool people to work with cya on #tmbg! -jodfer/amy ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Jul 1997 09:10:01 -0400 (EDT) From: squeak! Subject: Re: TMBG: Mono Puff Message-ID: On Mon, 28 Jul 1997, Theodore Beck wrote: > You can get Live in New York in a double CD set of John Henry. It's an > Australian import, but well worth the extra cost. > ted > --------------------------- > http://yellowfine.base.org > -------------------------- Where do I get this??? Jen :9! "Great spirits have always been hindered by mediocre minds." --Albert Einstein ------------------------------ Message-ID: <33DE1515.468D@ix.netcom.com> Date: Tue, 29 Jul 1997 09:06:45 -0700 From: Amanda Nichols Organization: WECB Subject: Re: TMBG: Re: Single Debate... Personally, I like SEXXY. Tho the sinlge has the radio (read: a little messed with) version on it, as well as SenSurround and a few others. I personally think SenSurround should have been on the lp, but I can also see why it was left out. It doesn't quite fit with the rest of the album. I believe that "Spirialing Shape" was on the Kids in the Hall's "Brain candy" movie soundtrack. That may clear up why some people hear it on the radio where other stations (like the one I listen to) seem to make tmbg cds "appear" when they're in town. odd, that.... Manda ------------------------------ Message-ID: <33DE16B6.1009@ix.netcom.com> Date: Tue, 29 Jul 1997 09:13:42 -0700 From: Amanda Nichols Organization: WECB Subject: Re: TMBG: Re: strange concert people > Yeah; I saw Them open for Hootie, and afterward was talking about > it with some little twerplet on IRC - he informed me that TMBG sucked, > except for "that SEXXY song. My mom liked it." Someone did that to me in reference to Soul Coughing. He said: "These guys rock. " (long stupid pause) " But they suck live." Whu? SOme people need a brain before they learn how to speak. Amanda ------------------------------ Message-ID: <33DE175D.699F@ix.netcom.com> Date: Tue, 29 Jul 1997 09:16:29 -0700 From: Amanda Nichols Organization: WECB Subject: Re: TMBG: Wedding bells ... > I think that 100,000 is a bit much .... i think you could get they at you > wedding for as little as 10,000 if you timed it right ..... Actually, you're right on. I booked them (yes, friends, I did!) for a show in Boston (April 5th) at the Avalon. That's bout the cost. Y'see, you *could* hire a silly little "we only do weddings" band for the same price, or you could bat your eyes at Frank Riley and have tmbg. It's your choice.... :^) A ------------------------------ Message-Id: <33DE10EC.FAD@rosevc.rose-hulman.edu> Date: Tue, 29 Jul 1997 08:49:00 -0700 From: Chad Maloney Subject: Re: TMBG: Max Points? 'Lani' N Olson wrote: > > On Mon, 28 Jul 1997, The Denominator wrote: > > > I was just wondering if any of you more experienced bootleg traders > > (or just people who are smarter than me) know what to do with these little > > max points that come with all these tapes... i have quite a bit of them, but > > no idea what to do... it prolly says on the package... but you know me... > > never read the instructions when you can ask someone else.. :) > > I don't know... I wrote to the address on the package about a year ago and > it came back marked 'return to sender.' Their address changed or > something... Well. This wasn't helpful at all. Max points "expired" a year or two ago. I don't remember when, but they just put a final date on the redeeming of points and then quit doing it. That is kinda why I always wonder why traders use Maxell XLII tapes still. I figure it is still a hold over from Max Points where you could get something for nothing as a reward for taping a lot of stuff. There was a rumor TDK was going to do something similar, but I never heard of it actually happening... -- -===========================================================================- Chad Maloney | CMMalone@softart.com | WWW homeless as of late... -===========================================================================- Software Engineer | What makes a person so poisonous righteous that they'd Software Artistry | think less of anyone who just disagreed? - Moxy Fruvous -===========================================================================- ------------------------------ From: mjames@greed.loyola.edu (Matthew James) Message-Id: <9707291718.AA11488@greed.loyola.edu> Subject: Re: TMBG: Mono Puff (fwd) Date: Tue, 29 Jul 1997 13:18:49 -0400 (EDT) > > I now have all the albums. Thing is I don't have the Pink Album or MT, > >but I do have Then, which has all those songs on it. Do you think it > >makes me a better fan if I get those TMBG and MT? > > Eh, it makes you a fan who's about thirty dollars poorer. ;) If > you've got the money to burn and won't feel like a True Fan until you have > TMBG and MT in all their incarnations, go for it. Otherwise, don't. The > True Fan police won't come and kill you if you don't. :) > Go to a used record store, buy them for about $7 each if they have them and that way you've only spent $14 and have the two albums. That is if you want them badly enough to have the original, non-remastered versions. If you're fine with T:TEY then just stick with that. Matt -- Matt James mjames@greed.loyola.edu Loyola College in Baltimore, MD Bruce Campbell Gazette: www.bcgazette.com ------------------------------ From: mjames@greed.loyola.edu (Matthew James) Message-Id: <9707291731.AA11499@greed.loyola.edu> Subject: TMBG: 1:1 vs 2:1 Date: Tue, 29 Jul 1997 13:31:31 -0400 (EDT) If you really think about this 1:1 and 2:1 business, I really think everyone is interpreting it all wrong. Think about it. A trade involves giving person A an item, permenantly and person A then gives person B an item, permenantly. So you take 1:1 The newbie sends a blank tape to the bootleg holder. The bootleg holder then copies his bootleg onto that blank tape and then sends it back to the newbie. In effect, the bootleg holder has given a gift to the newbie, no trade occurs. Then you take the case of 2:1 The newbie sends two tapes to the bootleg holder. Bootleg holder then dubs his copy onto one of the tapes and keeps the other one. He then sends the dub to the newbie. Thus it is a 1:1 trade. A 2:1 trade would involve 3 tapes! (not including the original bootleg). A 1:1 trade would mean the newbie ends up with his copy and the bootlegger ends up with his blank copy. The original bootleg isn't involved as the bootlegger already had that before the trade even started and he is not giving it to the newbie, just merely a copy of it. Matt -- Matt James mjames@greed.loyola.edu Loyola College in Baltimore, MD Bruce Campbell Gazette: www.bcgazette.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Jul 1997 11:43:13 -0600 Subject: TMBG: MAX POINTS Message-ID: <19970729.114759.12046.4.TMBgirl@juno.com> From: tmbgirl@juno.com (I have no Name) ****The Max POints are not valid any longer (as of december 1995!!!)**** My suggestion, tape them all over everything until the whole world is overcome with max points... you'd think that now, almost two years after this thing was over they'd stop printing them but... "Moths beat on the windowpane, telling me I'm not the same. Sounds of nothing, sounds of fear, speak to me when no one's here" ---TMBG love, JOrdaN ------------------------------ From: mjames@greed.loyola.edu (Matthew James) Message-Id: <9707291749.AA11511@greed.loyola.edu> Subject: Re: TMBG: Bootleg Drama Date: Tue, 29 Jul 1997 13:49:21 -0400 (EDT) This is bunk. Everything has a monetary value. The time it takes to dub the bootleg has a labor value. The postage you have to pay has a monetary value to it. But the thing is, you aren't buying the tape outright. You are sending a blank tape, an item. It is a barter, not a sale. In any trade you have to exchange something you bought, or something that someone gave to you that that person bought, or something you made which took time and money to create. Matt > That's the thing. The second tape that the dubber keeps is NOT a gift. It > was required as a term of the trade. No, it's not money, but to a trader, > it's just as good as money. > > > So it just depends on whether the person is really generous and wants to > > copy a tape for the warm & fuzzy feeling it gives him/her to spread the > > word of TMBG to his/her fellow human beings, or whether he/she would > > rather receive a gift in exchange to acknowledge the trouble he/she went > > to, which seems perfectly reasonable to me. > > Ok, looking at this from a semi-experienced standpoint, the traders who > are offering 1:1 trades (and 2:1 for that matter) are the ones who have a > lot of stuff to offer, and who have been trading for awhile. This means > that they know the game, and most likely have their decks ready to dub > at any moment. When I get blanks for a 1:1 trade, it's all good because I: > > 1. Open the envelope (10 seconds) > 2. Unwrap a tape (15 seconds) > 3. Pop the blank in. (2 seconds) > 4. Find the tape they want, pop that in. (10 seconds) > 5. Push record on one deck and play on the other. (.5 seconds) > 6. Wait and make sure levels are ok (10 seconds) > 7. Grab a pre-made label from the master case (4 seconds) > 8. Put the pre-made label in place (5 seconds) > 9. Flip the tape when it's done (2 seconds) > 10. Pop it out, put it in the case, put it in the SASE, seal it, > and pop it on my pile of other trades to send out. (30 seconds) > > This is about 1 minute, and 28.5 seconds of my life spend doing this. Add > a little more for two tapes (which is the limit I'll do of 1:1). I usually > have 1:1 trades out the next day. > > Before I knew better, I did 2:1 blank trades because every other TMBG > trader did. Then I realized that there IS right and wrong with this. 2:1 > is profit, no matter how you care to look at it. You're paying a dubber a > blank tape (which may have cost you a few bucks depending on where you get > it) to copy you one. Postage is only about $1.50 for two tapes, and most > 2:1 traders even requre you to pay this! > > C'mon, TMBG traders.. learn the ettiquite that the other, larger groups of > traders accepted years ago.. > > \\\\ > (X X) > []/------------------------------\[]/-----------------ooOo-( )-oOoo------\[] > [] Josh Woodward: joshw@tmbg.org [] If you really want to see me check [] > [] Internet Tech. - Marathon Oil [] the papers and the TV; look who's [] > [] Homepage and tape trade list: [] telling who what to do. Kiss my ass. [] > [] http://www.dc-adnet.com/joshw [] --BFF [] > []\---------TMBG #20999----------/[]\--------------Dial-A-Sig------------/[] > > -- Matt James mjames@greed.loyola.edu Loyola College in Baltimore, MD Bruce Campbell Gazette: www.bcgazette.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Jul 1997 12:00:28 -0600 Subject: TMBG: Johns do enjoy what they do... Message-ID: <19970729.120033.12046.0.TMBgirl@juno.com> From: tmbgirl@juno.com (I have no Name) I hate to answer my own question but I just got a few more bootlegs and in one of them (at htis point i don;t remember which one..i'll find out...) they come back out for their encore and john states : "WE've got a number of songs for you now because we actually enjoy what we do for a living..." well, so i thought i'd answered it but then he goes on to say: "However, this isn't what we do for a living, driving is our business. ?this thing? is just a hobby" so i guess in a sense i didn;t answer it but... getting closer. "Moths beat on the windowpane, telling me I'm not the same. Sounds of nothing, sounds of fear, speak to me when no one's here" ---TMBG love, JOrdaN ------------------------------ Message-ID: <33DE4970.22A7@geocities.com> Date: Tue, 29 Jul 1997 12:50:08 -0700 From: Vladimir Drakul Subject: Re: TMBG: listmembers who are in bands > i am working for a tshirt company for the summer ( a screenprinter's) and we do really really cheeeep shirts... > > http://www.raintreescreenprint.com > > they specialize in nonforprofit groups etc... > and theyre really cool people to work with Hmm... this seems like a very good idea for those ppl who missed out on OMLTs (like me, boo hoo!)...! Christy, wherever you are, how does this sound? -- Vladimir Drakul -- http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Heights/7343/ ******************************************************************* "So the winds swept the Whirlpool across the sky..." -Meat Puppets, Whirlpool "NO! Not the red button!!" -Fester Shinetop ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo This message will self-destruct in five seconds. ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Jul 1997 14:38:42 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <199707292038.OAA15248@alpha.psd.k12.co.us> From: Dave Simpson Subject: Re: TMBG: Oregon At 08:51 AM 7/29/97 -0700, you wrote: >HEY! > WHat's wrong with the Maine song? >Being from Maine, I relate to it well. Nothing! I love that song, in fact! It's just that it's the only one I've heard so far.. Dave Simpson LotharCo As yet unaffected by the flooding in Fort Collins.. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Jul 1997 14:52:00 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <199707292052.OAA14148@alpha.psd.k12.co.us> From: Dave Simpson Subject: Re: TMBG: Johns do enjoy what they do... >I hate to answer my own question but I just got a few more bootlegs and >in one of them (at htis point i don;t remember which one..i'll find >out...) they come back out for their encore and john states : > >"WE've got a number of songs for you now because we actually enjoy what >we do for a living..." > >well, so i thought i'd answered it but then he goes on to say: > >"However, this isn't what we do for a living, driving is our business. >?this thing? is just a hobby" > >so i guess in a sense i didn;t answer it but... getting closer. This reminds me of an artist I learned about in art class a few years ago. He was a surrealist artist who, when asked what he does, replied "I am a resperator." Basically, what one does the most is what they "do," and They spend a lot of time driving between concerts.. Dave Simpson LotharCo We've got the stigma (hey, what's a stigma?) ------------------------------ Message-Id: <199707292103.RAA24219@copland.udel.edu> From: "Harlan Landes" Subject: Re: TMBG: RE: Soul coughing thank yous Date: Tue, 29 Jul 1997 17:00:37 -0400 >The cough thanks both Johns as Soul Coughing opened for them a few times, >giving them the chance to build up a hardcore audience. Also, >SC taped a few little ditties on Hello. I'm not making this up; >I get my info straight from my Soul Coughing informant. I know of at least one show where Soul Coughing opened up for Them *and* joined Them in playing Spy at the end of the concert. Sounded pretty interesting. ------------------------------ Subject: Re: TMBG: listmembers who are in bands Message-ID: <19970729.165530.4567.0.aviso@juno.com> From: aviso@juno.com (Justin T McElroy) Date: Tue, 29 Jul 1997 17:05:19 EDT How in the world is this TMBG related? Possibly for the OMLC but she didn't say anything about that. If I missed something come and beat me up for stating my beliefs. Justin McElroy aviso@juno.com "The words I'm (writing) now mean nothing more than meow to an animal" On Tue, 29 Jul 1997 09:01:56 -0400 amy beth geerling writes: >i am working for a tshirt company for the summer ( a screenprinter's) >and we do really really cheeeep shirts... > > >if anyone is interested, checkout our website,...it's sorta ugly, but >like i said, the shirts are dirt cheep... > > >http://www.raintreescreenprint.com > >they specialize in nonforprofit groups etc... >and theyre really cool people to work with > >cya on #tmbg! >-jodfer/amy > ------------------------------ Message-Id: Date: Tue, 29 Jul 1997 18:19:03 -0400 From: chatfield@voyager.net (chatfield residence) Subject: Re: TMBG: Max Points? >Yessir. It used to be that you could take them and get shirts and such. That >is sadly no longer the case. yes actually the promotion ran out in 1991. :( i checked on my sheet...such a shame...i had enough for a "pre-recorded cassette tape". oh yes i am new here. hi. (imagine me waving hello here) i have been reading the list for a few days and i have to say i like it. ok, back to lurking now. --amy jean "i'd like it here if i could leave and see it from a long way away." -r.e.m. ------------------------------ From: Matthew Coon Message-Id: <199707292241.RAA12370@omni.cc.purdue.edu> Subject: Re: TMBG: 1:1 vs 2:1 Date: Tue, 29 Jul 1997 17:41:30 -0500 (EST) Matt James writes: > > The newbie sends a blank tape to the bootleg holder. The bootleg > holder then copies his bootleg onto that blank tape and then sends it > back to the newbie. In effect, the bootleg holder has given a gift to > the newbie, no trade occurs. > Then you take the case of 2:1 > The newbie sends two tapes to the bootleg holder. Bootleg holder then > dubs his copy onto one of the tapes and keeps the other one. He then > sends the dub to the newbie. Thus it is a 1:1 trade. > I tend to agree. 1:1 "trading" is actually gift-giving, since I don't end up with a new recording in the end (which is after all, the point of most trades!). It's nice and it's admirable and good, but it's not a *trade*, IMO. I try only to trade for shows these days, but when I have dealt with people who have no shows to offer I have usually given them the choice of either sending me a blank tape and return postage (I shouldn't have to pay to be nice!), or sending me two blank tapes (I keep one and pay the return postage for the other). Guess what - almost without exception, people have chosen the latter option! m@t (who will probably regret entering this discussion) ------------------------------ Message-ID: <33DEB1F4.4211@ix.netcom.com> Date: Tue, 29 Jul 1997 20:16:04 -0700 From: Amanda Nichols Organization: WECB Subject: TMBG: Re: The amazing Linnell lookalikes Losta people look like Linnell. My lit teacher is an exact body double for the Prof. It scared me, because I went to see THey the night I took my lit final. "Hey...is that....? Why would my lit teacher be in a band?!?!?" "Simeltaneous events don't happen..." Amanda ------------------------------ Message-ID: <33DEB380.50D6@ix.netcom.com> Date: Tue, 29 Jul 1997 20:22:40 -0700 From: Amanda Nichols Organization: WECB Subject: Re: TMBG: Mono Puff (fwd) Matthew James wrote: > > > > I now have all the albums. Thing is I don't have the Pink Album or MT, > > >but I do have Then, which has all those songs on it. Do you think it > > >makes me a better fan if I get those TMBG and MT? > > > > Eh, it makes you a fan who's about thirty dollars poorer. ;) If > > you've got the money to burn and won't feel like a True Fan until you have > > TMBG and MT in all their incarnations, go for it. Otherwise, don't. The > > True Fan police won't come and kill you if you don't. :) > > > Go to a used record store, buy them for about $7 each if they have them > and that way you've only spent $14 and have the two albums. That is if > you want them badly enough to have the original, non-remastered > versions. If you're fine with T:TEY then just stick with that. > Matt "I say, right on!" It all depends on what you think. If you'd like to get those lp's on cd, seperate from T:TEY, then go ahead. But there's nothing on them that you don't already have and you may actually be a little disappointed when you find that some things that are crystal clear on Then are muddled background noise on the origionals. Or you may crave that kinda thing. It's up to you... Amanda ------------------------------ Message-ID: <33DEB49A.7E11@ix.netcom.com> Date: Tue, 29 Jul 1997 20:27:22 -0700 From: Amanda Nichols Organization: WECB Subject: Re: TMBG: Oregon Dave Simpson wrote: > > At 08:51 AM 7/29/97 -0700, you wrote: > >HEY! > > WHat's wrong with the Maine song? > >Being from Maine, I relate to it well. > Nothing! I love that song, in fact! It's just that it's the only one I've > heard > so far.. > > Dave Simpson > > LotharCo > As yet unaffected by the flooding in Fort Collins.. Eeew... floods. In boston (where I go to school) it rained so bad in March that the "T" shut down for the first time in a million years (yes, the jurassic public transportation system-complete w/ built in weirdos!). I myself have only seen the lyrics to "Maine," ("Finally," I thought, "Someone else has the same opion as I do!") and I have heard "South Carolina." It's very, well,.... it's a Linnell song. No other way to describe it. :^) AManda ------------------------------ Message-ID: <33DEB507.1839@ix.netcom.com> Date: Tue, 29 Jul 1997 20:29:11 -0700 From: Amanda Nichols Organization: WECB Subject: Re: TMBG: RE: Soul coughing thank yous Harlan Landes wrote: > > >The cough thanks both Johns as Soul Coughing opened for them a few times, > >giving them the chance to build up a hardcore audience. Also, > >SC taped a few little ditties on Hello. I'm not making this up; > >I get my info straight from my Soul Coughing informant. > > I know of at least one show where Soul Coughing opened up for Them *and* > joined Them in playing Spy at the end of the concert. Sounded pretty > interesting. Soul Coughing is very cool. They're very different from most of the "alternative" bands out there (it's in quotes cuz everyone has a different idea of what alternative is). :^) Amanda ------------------------------ Message-Id: <3.0.32.19970729211744.00720300@uky.campus.mci.net> Date: Tue, 29 Jul 1997 21:17:46 -0400 From: Bill Kirby Subject: Re: TMBG: Max Points? >>Yessir. It used to be that you could take them and get shirts and such. That >>is sadly no longer the case. > >yes actually the promotion ran out in 1991. :( i checked on my sheet...such >a shame...i had enough for a "pre-recorded cassette tape". no, it was in effect much later than that... i ended up with enough max points for a set of headphones and 2 cd's - and i received them (after the proverbial "please allow 8 weeks for delivery" (which actually turned into 4 months)) in 1994. anyway, i still buy XLIIs because i think they're fine cassettes... -bk ------------------------------ From: tmbgdhutch@juno.com Date: Tue, 29 Jul 1997 21:25:36 -0400 Subject: TMBG:Pencils Message-ID: <19970729.212537.3742.0.tmbgdhutch@juno.com> Did someone once ask about TMBG school supplies? Well, there are TMBG pencils available on their website. They are REALLY cool! Only $2.00 for 5 pencils! If that person was being sarcastic, I am a sucker. I don't really pick up on written sarcasm. Sorry, it's not me. -D. Hutch ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Jul 1997 22:46:17 -0400 (EDT) From: 99 and 44/100% MIKe! Subject: TMBG: Radio news Message-ID: I was at work today trying to stave off stultifying boredom by imagining myself not at work and we had the radio on. I never listen to the radio much anymore, for there usually isn't that much to enjoy on my city's local "alternative station" although I will say that there are a few more good bands out there than I had originally thought. Anyway, quite by chance I heard the words "They Might Be Giants" mentioned and after turning the volume up I discovered that THEN: The Earlier Years is finally expected to be released domestically in Canada. Of course it has been available in the U.S. since March, and I picked it up in Ohio in April, so it's about time that it got an official release here. The radio announcer went on to say that he thought it was one of the better compilations in recent memory. I was bemused to find that our beloved TMBG's early output was getting such positive exposure. Then when I realised they were actually going to play some TMBG music, I hoped for some odd old gem. Then they played Birdhouse In Your Soul for some reason. MIKe *TMBG Info Club ID No: 18902* come visit Mr Flippy's Red Light Funtime Party Hour! --->www.yucc.yorku.ca/~flippy AND: Check out the webzine JournalX at www.journalx.com *-----------------------------* Recent CD Purchases: Joy Division - Still, Unknown Pleasures The Jam - The Jam Collection The Housemartins - Now That's What I Call Quite Good ------------------------------ Message-Id: Date: Tue, 29 Jul 97 23:21 EDT From: kbrodbec@remcen.ehhs.cmich.edu (Kirsten Brodbeck) Subject: Re: TMBG: Re: The amazing Linnell lookalikes > >Losta people look like Linnell. > My lit teacher is an exact body double for the Prof. > It scared me, because I went to see THey the night I took my lit final. > > "Hey...is that....? Why would my lit teacher be in a band?!?!?" Whoa, scary! My friend Rocky's little brother has Linnell hair. He has good hair, period. I'm envious... Kirsten -- "To sing, to laugh, to dream, to walk in my own way and be alone, free, with an eye to see things as they are.." - from _Cyrano de Bergerac_ Kirsten Brodbeck kbrodbec@remcen.ehhs.cmich.edu AKA Crow AKA Brodie ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Jul 1997 00:32:05 -0400 Message-Id: <199707300432.AAA09328@ussodyssey.ufp.org> From: The Denominator Subject: TMBG: Change My World? Hi all, I have this b-sides collection thing I've been working on... and most of the source material came from some guy I don't know who burned a CD with most of Their singles on it... and anyway, there are some Mono Puff songs on there too, and one song which goes like this: "You're gonna change my world" ba-pa-da-pa-da-pa-daaaa "You're gonna heal my woooorld" ... and so on. Anyway, i have -NO- idea whose song this is, only that it is in some manner related to TMBG. I think it might have something to do with Phil Ochs, but I really don't know. Do any of you recognize this song? If so, could you tell me with whom They do it (if they are directly involved after all?) Thanks in advance, Sleepy in Texas ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Jul 1997 21:36:47 -0700 Subject: TMBG: Dream Message-ID: <19970729.213649.3518.0.jnielsen69@juno.com> From: jnielsen69@juno.com (Joshua D Nielsen) Hey! I had my second TMBG dream. They were playing at my church, and for some reason Linnell wanted to do something solo. So Flans sat down next to me! We started talking, and I asked if he needed a ride home. He said okay, so we were driving around. I showed him how to spin his head 'round and 'round (not really). We were driving, and talking about guitars and stuff. He was a really nice guy, so I ask him to sign my copy of Pinky. He did, and said he would get Linnell's for me too. Then I woke up. Just thought I'd share. Josh Nielsen "I wish I weren't a lurker"-Josh Nielsen jnielsen69@juno.com http://www.angelfire.com/or/jnielsen/index.html ICQ #1337243 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Jul 1997 00:56:27 -0400 Message-Id: <199707300456.AAA09930@ussodyssey.ufp.org> From: The Denominator Subject: TMBG: ReFueled Hi there, Just thought I'd be annoying and let you all know about a b-side compilation that I've just completed... It's called ReFueled: Hyperfreaked Funkcycle Version II. If you want to know the whole story behind this, let me know... its a long tale... anyway, the point is that I've got this tape, and if anyone is interested lemme know. Here's what's on it: 25 O'clock / Sensurround(MMPR) / James K. Polk(original) / Stormy Pinkness / Ant / Cabbagetown / Siftin' / Larger Than Life (She's Actual Size reggae mix) / Welcome to the Jungle / I Blame You / Moving to the Sun / Ondine / She Was a Hotel Detective / Mrs. Train / Why Does the Sun Shine? / Spy(single) / I Am Not Your Broom / Jessica / Whirlpool / Snail Dust / Sensurround(single) / Unforgotten / We've Got a World That Swings / On the Drag / Counterfeit Faker / Certain People I Could Name / Reprehensible / They Got Lost / Rat Patrol / Older / Token Back to Brooklyn / The Edison Museum / Now That I Have Everything / Greek #3 / Change My World The Denominator ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Jul 1997 01:11:28 -0400 Message-Id: <199707300511.BAA10361@ussodyssey.ufp.org> From: The Denominator Subject: TMBG: Call for remixes Calling all singles owners! hey there.. it's me..the annoying guy. I have a little project in the works... I am trying to put together a remixez/versions compilation .... however, i do not have all of what I need. I was wondering if anyone out there has Istanbul (with the brownsville remix), The Guitar remixes, or the S-E-X-X-Y single with the 3 tracks.... and would be willing to set up something so I could get this compilation together. Any other remixes or early versions (of good quality, and not live recordings) are welcome as well. Bothersome in the Deep South, The Denominator ------------------------------ End of tmbg-list Digest #3-210 ******************************