Errors-To: owner-tmbg-digest@tmbg.org Reply-To: tmbg-digest@tmbg.org Sender: owner-tmbg-digest@tmbg.org Precedence: bulk From: owner-tmbg-digest@tmbg.org To: tmbg-digest@tmbg.org Subject: tmbg-list Digest #3-268 tmbg-list Digest, Volume 3, Number 268 Friday, 26 September 1997 Today's Topics: TMBG: Dr.Worm is a hoax! TMBG: TMBVinyl Re: TMBG: Dr.Worm is a hoax! TMBG: Vinyl Vendors Re: TMBG: Dr.Worm is a hoax! Re: TMBG: Vinyl Vendors TMBG: public service announcement/merc/moxy Re: TMBG: Dr.Worm is a hoax! TMBG: Mercury Lounge Re: TMBG: Dr.Worm is a hoax! TMBG: Oh Happy Day!! TMBG: Charlottesville article Re: TMBG: Dr.Worm is a hoax! Non-TMBG: Skeleton Key Interview on WECB NON-TMBG: Please Pray Administrivia: If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing send mail to tmbg-digest-request@tmbg.org for instructions on how to be automatically removed. --------------------------------------------------------------------- The views expressed herein are those of the individual authors. --------------------------------------------------------------------- tmbg-list is digested with Digest 3.3d (John Relph ). ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: TMBG: Dr.Worm is a hoax! Message-ID: From: rplass@schicktech.com (Robert Plass) Date: 25 Sep 1997 08:09:13 EST Organization: Schick Technolgies Hello exquisite living people, I've been listening to the live version of Dr. Worm (the mp3 on Jish's IRC page) and I've decided that aside from screwing up the lyrics near the end of the first verse, THERE ARE NO LYRICS to the second verse! It's just Linnell making up sounds and FBT (fake backwards talk), with an occasional intelligible word which may end up being incorporated, but otherwise, FAKE! Dr. Worm's second verse is Bo-Gus. A hoax! A pipe dream! Can anyone make out the lyrics? I challenge anyone to post the lyrics to the second verse. You can't; because there aren't any! If you can post the lyrics, I'll buy you a gas mask! What do you all think? Rob ------------------------------ From: "Cyborg J. Kucera" Message-Id: <199709251313.IAA14588@peter.atw.earthreach.com> Subject: TMBG: TMBVinyl Date: Thu, 25 Sep 1997 08:13:06 -0500 (CDT) Everyone check out www.vinylvendors.com and search for TMBG... Wow! Fun stuff! I just got the Istanbul Single and Lincoln on 12", and the Back to Skull EP! :) *much happy* YES! It's actually BACK! | Cyborg "Pez" Kucera -- pez@earthreach.com WOW: Myopia | http://www.earthreach.com/pez ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Sep 1997 07:52:04 -0600 (MDT) From: J Kuemmerle Subject: Re: TMBG: Dr.Worm is a hoax! Message-ID: On 25 Sep 1997, Robert Plass wrote: > I've been listening to the live version of Dr. Worm (the mp3 > on Jish's IRC page) and I've decided that aside from screwing up > the lyrics near the end of the first verse, THERE ARE NO LYRICS > to the second verse! It's just Linnell making up sounds and > FBT (fake backwards talk), with an occasional intelligible word > which may end up being incorporated, but otherwise, FAKE! > Dr. Worm's second verse is Bo-Gus. A hoax! A pipe dream! > > Can anyone make out the lyrics? I challenge anyone > to post the lyrics to the second verse. You can't; because > there aren't any! > > If you can post the lyrics, I'll buy you a gas mask! > > What do you all think? i think 'hey, free gas mask!' i like to play the drums. i think i'm getting good but i can handle criticism i'll show you what i know and you can tell me if you thing i'm getting better on the drums i'm not a real doctor but they call me doc tor woooooorrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrmmmmmm! how was that? -jim kuemmerle j.kuemmerle@m.cc.utah.edu http://synapse.biology.utah.edu/jim/gateway.html but only for a few more days... ------------------------------ From: mjames@greed.loyola.edu (Matthew James) Message-Id: <9709251352.AA04033@greed.loyola.edu> Subject: TMBG: Vinyl Vendors Date: Thu, 25 Sep 1997 09:52:07 -0400 (EDT) I've been trying to get to Vinyl Vendors' web page to see what they have with my Communicator 4.02, but Netscape keeps 'Not Responding' after it tries to Start Java. Perhaps I'll download 4.03 and see if that fixes it. Matt -- Matt James mjames@greed.loyola.edu Loyola College in Baltimore, MD Bruce Campbell Gazette: www.bcgazette.com ------------------------------ Message-ID: <19970925135558.14788.qmail@hotmail.com> From: "Gentle Ben" Subject: Re: TMBG: Dr.Worm is a hoax! Date: Thu, 25 Sep 1997 06:55:56 PDT > I've been listening to the live version of Dr. Worm (the mp3 >on Jish's IRC page) and I've decided that ... THERE ARE NO >LYRICS to the second verse! It's just Linnell making up sounds and >FBT (fake backwards talk), with an occasional intelligible word >which may end up being incorporated, but otherwise, FAKE! >Dr. Worm's second verse is Bo-Gus. A hoax! A pipe dream! > > Can anyone make out the lyrics? I challenge anyone >to post the lyrics to the second verse. You can't; because >there aren't any! > > If you can post the lyrics, I'll buy you a gas mask! Do you mean... I like to play the drums I think I'm getting good But I can handle criticism I'll show you what I know You can tell me if you think I'm getting better on the drums I'm not a real doctor But they... call ... me ... Doctor WOOOORRRRRRRRRRM! That is the second verse. If you're talking about the unintelligible part AFTER that with the music change, you are speaking of the Bridge. If you are in fact speaking of the bridge, then I'd have to agree with you... there are no lyrics. ____________________ "Gentle" Ben - listening to Verve Pipe's "I've Suffered A Head Injury" ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Sep 1997 09:08:33 -0700 From: Chad Maloney Subject: Re: TMBG: Vinyl Vendors Message-id: <342A8C81.3FF4@rosevc.rose-hulman.edu> Matthew James wrote: > > I've been trying to get to Vinyl Vendors' web page to see what they have > with my Communicator 4.02, but Netscape keeps 'Not Responding' after it > tries to Start Java. Perhaps I'll download 4.03 and see if that fixes > it. Works fine with my ancients, albeit not bloated Navigator 3.0 I rounded out my Vinyl collection myself there just minutes ago. Hopefully they turn up a nice reputable place that sends me some nice records for my listening enjoyment. Yay! -- -====================================================================- Chad Maloney | CMMalone@softart.com | WWW homeless as of late... -====================================================================- Software Engineer | Every little child learns, if you can't see Software Artistry | dreams your eyes are blind - Fly, Moxy Fruvous -====================================================================- ------------------------------ From: GoodOmenz@aol.com Date: Thu, 25 Sep 1997 10:42:43 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <970925104100_896486375@emout08.mail.aol.com> Subject: TMBG: public service announcement/merc/moxy > Oh, and the 18+ thing: YOU ABSOLUTELY MUST HAVE >a picture ID on you even if you're all old and shit. They don't ever >have >all ages shows; all the shows there are either 18+ or 21+, and most of >them >are 21+. The TMBG shows are most likely 18+, though. ahem. im 17, ive been going there for 18+ shows since i was like, 15 (the last monopuff one it was, yay!) and have never had troubles getting in even to the sold out tmbg ones. 21+ shows are a different matter cuz theyve been caught twice with minors drinking so if they get caught one more time they will be shut down. second, the merc rarely has all ages shows, i think its had 8 or 9 in its whole history but 4 of those were the early tmbg ones last march. now im not encouraging everyone to fly down in from clifornia with a chance of being turned away at the door but i thought i'd mention that ~public service announcemnt~ Brian Dewan Oct. 11th Brooklyn Museum he will be showing two film strips and probably doing songs, its totally worth seeing (much more so than tmbg in DC hehe! what timing) and anyone interested email me. tho im sure everyone who cares is on the mailing list and will get a flyer so this is a waste of time also coming back to the mercury lounge moxy fruvous are booked there nov 14th, 15th and 16th! i guess the booking agent suddenly got "quirky" sigh. and tmbg are there the 13th, that could get wacky! "uh, hello again" the bouncer lives in upstate ny, used to be a cop and likes to fish... lord knows where the conversation can go from there ~liz "the day you trade your soul for a heart of stone is the greatest story never told" -monopuff, its fun 2 steal ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Sep 1997 09:49:40 -0500 (EST) From: Ryan Staib Subject: Re: TMBG: Dr.Worm is a hoax! Message-ID: On 25 Sep 1997, Robert Plass wrote: * Can anyone make out the lyrics? I challenge anyone *to post the lyrics to the second verse. You can't; because *there aren't any! OK, now you've challenged me, and I'll probably figure out all the words to Dr. Worm now. Let me note that it's incredibly hard to make out words to new songs, especially since the singers don't even know what they're singing. Let me also tell you that I do not hear _any_ FBT in there, and that I can't even understand all the words to the second verse, right after the 'tell me if you think I'm getting better on the drums, I'll even *garble, garble*'_but_ I _do_ hear him say 'play the solo' at the end of the bridge, right as the guitar solo comes in. Whoa! I was listening and I almost understood it! I might actually be able to post it here if I sit and listen to it a few times. He also says 'when I get interviewed' or something, and 'call me while I stage defeat' or something similar... Of course that makes no sense, but, hey. OK, at the end of the second verse, before the bridge, I _swear_ it sounds like he says "I'll even blah blah blah... so you can call me there." So maybe he is making it all up, and that's why he's saying 'play the solo.' Hmmmm. :) From 2:49-3:00 (right before they do the part with just the accordion), it sounds like he's saying "Someday, somebody else besides me will call me while I stage defeat." But that makes almost no sense. But then, the rest of the song veers into the absurd also, so... Well, I give up for now, but if I figure it out, I'll let you know. RS ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Sep 1997 11:20:34 -0500 (CDT) From: Tara Lynne Weber <00085244@bigred.unl.edu> Subject: TMBG: Mercury Lounge Message-ID: > Oh, and the 18+ thing: YOU ABSOLUTELY MUST HAVE a picture ID on you even > if you're all old and shit. They don't ever have all ages shows; all > the shows there are either 18+ or 21+, and most of them are 21+. The > TMBG shows are most likely 18+, though. :( By the way, you can't sneak > into the Mercury Lounge and you can't use fake ID. I see them turn > people away all the time, usually NYU freshmen who are 17 and try to get > in with their non-photo college ID or their dates. I even see them turn > people away who are really old (like 30!) if they have no ID. The dudes > who work there are pretty cool, unusually polite, actually, but very > strict about carding people. Wow, that's really bizarre then, because when a friend and I saw TMBG at the Mercury Lounge a couple of years ago, we didn't get carded at all for the 18+ show (we were both 19 at the time and I, in particular, happen to look very young anyway). We got there really late (by which I mean we missed the first half of the show) and the bouncer just said, "You guys better hurry up and get in there, they've been on for about 45 minutes already." And that was that. that's really strange. --Tara -- Tara Weber 00085244@bigred.unl.edu, Ondine@tmbg.org http://members.tripod.com/~TaraW "We want everybody to have a good time, but we're not on a rock hero trip." --John Flansburgh "It's more of a rock gyro trip." --John Linnell ****MSTie #74191, TMBGer #38978**** ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Sep 1997 15:58:46 -0400 From: Mark Beissel Message-ID: <342AC276.4815@ameritech.net> Organization: United Federation of Planets Subject: Re: TMBG: Dr.Worm is a hoax! it sounds like he's > saying "Someday, somebody else besides me will call me while I stage > defeat." But that makes almost no sense. But then, the rest of the song > veers into the absurd also, so... Well, I give up for now, but if I figure > it out, I'll let you know. > I think it's "Someday, somebody else besides me will call me by my stage name" which is Dr. Worm... I'm not sure, but it does make sense. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Sep 1997 16:04:35 -0700 Subject: TMBG: Oh Happy Day!! Message-ID: <19970925.162959.9318.0.jnielsen69@juno.com> From: jnielsen69@juno.com (Josh Nielsen) Yay!!! Today was a good day. At school, the guy who said he would give me his TMBG shirt (the one with the ship) finally brought it today. Then when I got home, the two shirts I ordered from TMB Produtions where here!! I so happy, I can hardly contain myself. Now I just gotta pay Christy for my OMLT shirt. Christy, if you're reading this, I'll get the money to you as soon as I can, which my be a while. I am so broke right now. The shirts I ordered are a birthday present from my parents. Josh Nielsen jnielsen69@juno.com http://www.angelfire.com/or/jnielsen/ http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Studio/4091 ICQ #1337243 ------------------------------ Message-ID: <342B0A58.F9C@rica.net> Date: Thu, 25 Sep 1997 21:05:28 -0400 From: Joey Groah Subject: TMBG: Charlottesville article This is the cover story from the Charlottesville (VA) Daily Progress Extra Insert from 9/12/97, just 14 days after it saw print Yeah, call me scoop. I have left out basic TMBG stuff from the post. Spend this evening with They Might Be Giants by Jane Dunlap Norris If you happen to see a spotless Ford Crown Victoria in your rear-view mirror this evening, relax. It might not be an unmarked police vehicleafter all, and its occupants might not be law enforcement officers. They just might be Giants. Crown Victorias are the perferred touring vehicle for TMBG, who'll take the stage at Trax tonight with a creative trove of songs delving into everything from presidents to physics to pop culture."We always have a good time in Charlottesville," John Linnell said. Linnell plays yadda yadda, Flans plays yadda yadda and wears glasses.Together the Brooklyn, N.Y. based musicians have won countless fans with a combination of cathcy melodies and thoughtful, quirky[shudder] lyrics.The subjests that crop up in Birdhouse in Your Soul, She was a HotelDetective, Lucky Ball and Chain, James K. Polk, Particle Man and other songs include the pros and cons of electricity, treasure hunting, love,freedom of expression, science and Americana. They have made 10 videos, winning an MTV Breakthrough Award for Istanbul. Their albums include They Might Be Giants, Lincoln, Flood, Apollo18, John Henry and last year's Factory Showroom. A two-CD set of treasure form the duo's early efforts, Then the Early Years, was relesased early this year. How do the new ideas keep coming? "I think we want not to repeat ourselves," Linnell said. Coming up with creative music often means trying several different approaches to to song craft. Each writes some songs on his own. Sometimes the men sit down together and collaborate, with instruments or without, Linnell said. At other times, Linnell will record a track with a melody and give it to Flansburgh, who'll add lyrics. Or Flansburgh writes lyrics and gives them to Linnell. "I usually try to write the music first," Linnell said of his ownapproach to songwriting. "It's actually a hard way to write." Craft is an important to inspiration, and the writers often work through a number of ideas they aren't quite happy with on the way to finding something they like. It invovles "making up bad ideas and waiting for good ones to come along," he said. Unusual instruments often enhance songs. A singing saw provides a haunting touch for the track "James K. Polk" on the group's 1996 "Factory Showroom" CD. Another song from the CD, " I Can Hear You," was recorded without electricity on a wasx cylinder in the environs of another creative soul-the Edison Historic Site in West Orange, N.J. Recording before a small audience, TMBG played into huge metal cones to feed songs into one of Thomas Edison's century-old recording devices, which scratched the sounds into a wax cylinder. The low fidelity experiment didn't pick up all the instrumentation, but it resulted in a learning experience and a fascinating sound, Linnell said. "I thought it sounded really great," he said. The team has performed early in the morning, on "Today" and "Good Morning America," and late at night, on David Letterman's and Conan O'Brien's shows and "The Tonight Show." They've even been on shows about shows, such as "The Larry Sanders Show" on HBO. The duo became a band in 1992. Drummer Dan Hickey has performed with Joe Cocker and Joe Jackson, and bassist Graham Maby had shared stages with Shania Twain and Natalie Merchant. "It didn't affect certain things," Linnell said of moving from a twosome to a band. "It's changed the way we perform and the way we tour, and the general way of getting our ideas across is different." Becoming a band has some unexpected advantages beyond enhancing the sound, Linnell said. Not long after starting the first tour with the full band, Linnell realized he needed to wear earplugs to protect his hearing and hear his own vocals more clearly. Wearing earplug has improved his singing, and he'll keep wearing them, he said. In case you're wondering where the name came from, the mystery's easy to solve. The Group has the same moniker as a 1971 film starring George C. Scott and Joanne Woodward. In the film, Scott plays an eccentric gentleman who believes he's Sherlock Holmes; Woodward plays his psychiatrist, wo just happens to be named Dr. Watson. When they're not collaborating as TMBG, both Flansburgh and Linnell stay busy with side projects. Flansburgh founded the Hello Recording Club, offering a four-song EP by a new performer each month, one with Marjorie Galen in 1993. Linnell has recorded two EPs for the HRC- "The House of Mayors," a collecton of songs by and about mayors of New York City, and a selection of of state songs. Yes state songs. Not the official anthems, but tributes written by Linnell himself. In the late 1980's, while Linnell and Flansburgh were working on "Lincoln," Linnell became intersted in state songs and began to write some of his own. "They're patterened after state athems, but some of them go off on a tangent," he said. So far, he has 16 to 20 "more or less complete" state songs. Get ready to hear some brand new music tonight. Linnell and Flansburgh have been writing and recording demos of new material, and they've been sharing some with audiences on their current tour. TMBG may have a new CD out early next year, Linnell said. If you can't wait until tonight to hear a TMBG song, there's always the band's Dial-A-Song service, with a different song from the group's repertoire each hour. It's a regular long-didtance call to Brooklyn, N.Y., at 718-387-6962. Anyone have a boot of the show,9/12/97, they would like to trade for? Joey jgroah@rica.net ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Sep 1997 16:37:13 -0700 Subject: Re: TMBG: Dr.Worm is a hoax! Message-ID: <19970925.211616.9182.0.jnielsen69@juno.com> From: jnielsen69@juno.com (Josh Nielsen) I have a question. What is after the second verse? Is the Giant Cam version a shorter version, because I don't remember there being anything after that. Josh Nielsen jnielsen69@juno.com http://www.angelfire.com/or/jnielsen/ http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Studio/4091 ICQ #1337243 ------------------------------ Message-ID: <342B3FA9.1B7B@ix.netcom.com> Date: Fri, 26 Sep 1997 00:52:57 -0400 From: Amanda Nichols Organization: wekbuh (WECB) Subject: Non-TMBG: Skeleton Key Interview on WECB Anyone who's interested in hearing about (or getting copies, etc.) an interview my station did with Skeleton Key (my friend Tom was the DJ, I set the whole thing up) this afternoon, let me know. A good time was had by all, including Steve Calhoon (monopuff), who was quite comfy sitting on my purple bean bag chair, thank you. The highlights include: Skeleton Key decides to interview the staff of WECB We find a Phyllis Diller record where she sings "Satisfaction" Rick's wonderful sound effects box two words: "wicked pisser" Amanda ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Sep 1997 23:55:07 -0500 (CDT) From: **Tarnished Silence** Subject: NON-TMBG: Please Pray Message-Id: Greetings, all my fellow TMBG fans, First of all, I apologize for this off-topic subject, but this warrants a lot of attention: I just received news from my parents that my baby cousin, Cassie, has been diagnosed with meningitis and has been rushed by ambulance to the hospital. She is only about 2 mo old and has Down's syndrome, but she is a wonderful little girl, the first child of my cousins. So far, there isn't a prognosis and little is known, as only a spinal tap has been done. But if you pray, tonight send a prayer heavenward for the health and protection of a little girl and her parents who need all the heavenly assistance they can get right now. A peaceful night to all of you, Tarnished Silence 210 =========================================================== == Beyond your wildest dreams, there is only one... == == == == <<<<<<<<<>>>>>>>>> == == == =========================================================== ------------------------------ End of tmbg-list Digest #3-268 ******************************