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tmbg-list Digest, Volume 3, Number 317
Friday, 14 November 1997
Today's Topics:
TMBG: more tmbg cover picks
Re: TMBG: more tmbg cover picks
Re: non-TMBG: Negativland
TMBG: Secret from the TOMB
Re: TMBG: Secret from the TOMB
Re: TMBG: Chemicals and dust
Non-TMBG: Fruvous & DVN
TMBG: OMLT news?
TMBG: Remixes, Popularity, & Poop (It Might be a Long Post)
RE: TMBG: Remixes, Popularity, & Poop...
TMBG: Dallas pix
TMBG: mjames@greed.loyola.edu (Matthew James)
TMBG:_Fruvous_quote
TMBG: Re: variations on the name
Re: TMBG: Re: variations on the name
Re: TMBG:_Fruvous_quote
TMBG: Fruvous quotes
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Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 02:50:09 -0600 (CST)
From: Tara Lynne Weber <00085244@bigred.unl.edu>
Subject: TMBG: more tmbg cover picks
Message-ID: <Pine.OSF.3.96.971113021750.26552A-100000@bigred.unl.edu>
> -Stereolab will come near the end of the disc with a slowed, extended,
> but unique interpretation of "Spacesuit"
You know...this would actually be kinda cool! I have just recently
discovered Stereolab--I haven't heard a whole lot of their stuff, but I
like what I've heard so far (basically, the _Transient Random-Noise Bursts
With Announcements_ CD).
So hey, anybody heard the word on whether or not Morphine is in fact
contributing their rendition of Absolutely Bill's Mood? (for some
reason I can just hear Mark Sandman singing this song. I do not know
why.) Or how about the Spice Girls' Mr. Klaw cover? (or
perhaps...um...The Big Big Whoredom? um, ok...no, I didn't just say that.
nope, not me.) Or how about Chef from South Park singing S.E.X.X.Y.? :)
--Tara
--
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00085244@bigred.unl.edu, Ondine@tmbg.org
http://members.tripod.com/~TaraW
"We want everybody to have a good time, but we're not on a rock hero
trip." --John Flansburgh
"It's more of a rock gyro trip." --John Linnell
****MSTie #74191, TMBGer #38978****
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Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 03:01:35 -0600 (CST)
From: Bill Tatalovich <wt3@cec.wustl.edu>
Subject: Re: TMBG: more tmbg cover picks
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.96.971113025836.9764A-100000@ritz.cec.wustl.edu>
> So hey, anybody heard the word on whether or not Morphine is in fact
> contributing their rendition of Absolutely Bill's Mood? (for some
> reason I can just hear Mark Sandman singing this song. I do not know
> why.) Or how about the Spice Girls' Mr. Klaw cover? (or
> perhaps...um...The Big Big Whoredom? um, ok...no, I didn't just say that.
> nope, not me.) Or how about Chef from South Park singing S.E.X.X.Y.? :)
Oh my god....I never thought about it, but Morphine doing "Absolutely
Bill's Mood" would be really really cool. Just think...the immortal
guitar solo at the beginning done with Dana's sax, and Mark crooning "I'm
insane...I'm insane" as though he were trying to get someone in bed...I'm
getting shivers here, really. Kudos to you, Tara, for coming up with that
one. And, of course, the Spice Girls on "The Big Big Whoredom" and Chef
on "S.E.X.X.Y.".....you're a genius, Tara. My thoughts pale in contrast.
Bill Tatalovich
wt3@cec.wustl.edu
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Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 04:15:17 -0600 (CST)
From: cyberspace buddha <cb@silverchat.com>
Subject: Re: non-TMBG: Negativland
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.95.971113034128.27258A-100000@slashpalace.org>
On Wed, 12 Nov 1997 Bill Tatalovich <wt3@cec.wustl.edu> wrote:
> Oh yeah, and Negativland were the folks who got sued by U2 for "unfair
> use" of one of their songs. So that's reason enough to listen to them.
Bzzt. U2's label, Island Records did all the suing.
--
On Wed, 12 Nov 1997 J Kuemmerle <J.Kuemmerle@m.cc.utah.edu> wrote
> > > "Points" Freakishly, unspeakably weird beyond belief!
> > > (okay, maybe that's a bit of an exaggeration.)
>
> or perhaps maybe that's a bit of an understatement... :)
A bit.
> i've heard *some* negativland, not much yet. what i have heard has been
> (to quote bill) INCREDIBLY strange, but also extremely compelling. take a
> listen to the willsaphone stupid show. two cd's, i think it's two hours
> long, but it *really* sucks you into it.
Well J, I recommend you go out and get everything by negativland that you
can find. If you liked Willsaphone, I think you'll appreciate the rest.
<brag>
I have every Negativland CD I've ever seen, including the Over The Edge
stuff and the now illicit U2 single. Ok, a one copy of each title. I'm
still kicking myself for not picking up both legitimate copies of the U2
single that were hiding in the U2 section of Tower Records. After that I
was more willing to believe Islands assertion in the suit that U2 fans
might buy it thinking it was a new U2 production and be confused.
</brag>
--
On Wed, 12 Nov 1997 "Carl Hoffmann" <choff@hotmail.com> wrote:
> I saw them do a show at the Graet American Music Hall (SF), using about
> 200 audio carts for sampling!!
Well Carl, you SUCK, if only because you've seen them live and I haven't.
Ok, maybe it is I that sucks for that, but oh well.
> If you can find the bootleg of the U2 bit (as well as Casey Kasem
> swearin' up a storm about a mythical dog named Snuggles), it is well
> worth any cost.
Do you mean an actual CD or cassette, or just the sound? if an mp3 is
good enough, see below.
> I hear there are some CDs from Canada or something..
Hadn't heard, but then I'm not exactly looking.
> And, I think they're doing "Spiralling Shape" on the TMBG cover album.
Right, I absolutely must have a copy of this... assuming it's available
on CD.
--
On Wed, 12 Nov 1997 Shion <jkwhite@sdcc13.ucsd.edu> wrote:
> Negativland! I'm trying to find the location of an .mp2 of I Still Haven't
> Found What I'm Looking For from the U2 single, so if anyone knows any
> sites that have it...
> And they have a web site at www.negativland.com .
I'm not sure why you want mp2 instead of mp3, but they have mp3 files of
both tracks from that CD at http://www.negativland.com/audio.html.
ObTMBG: I saw Them <losing my live TMBG virginity> in Austin last night
<technically two nights ago now, but who's counting?> and they certainly
ROCKED. All my friends that had seen shows of the previous two tours said
that this tour was FAR superior. Lucky me. Got the Accordian shirt and
the longsleeved one. very nice. Go to work 30 miuntes late though. GOod
thing work is slack. ;)
cheers,
cb
--
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mailto:cb@silverchat.com \1)/ http://silverchat.com/~cb
Not your fathers buddha.
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Message-ID: <346AE810.3520A9CD@pacificnet.net>
Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 03:44:20 -0800
From: Bongo <ggr@pacificnet.net>
Subject: TMBG: Secret from the TOMB
> Someone (I forget who) said:
> > As to whether TOMB took the song title ["Fingertips]
> >from the Residents... I don't know. :)
Sorry, "TOMB" is a great band who are also known as
They Might Be Giants. Netscape's spell checker tricked me
into believing that everytime I typed TMBG, I was really
intending to type TOMB.
-B O N G O
_________________________________________________
"I dance with my feet like my tongue when I eat."
-Geggy Tah
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Message-Id: <199711131329.HAA01450@cereal.ncfcomm.com>
From: "mal" <mal@dragondata.com>
Subject: Re: TMBG: Secret from the TOMB
Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 07:14:33 -0600
>
> > Someone (I forget who) said:
> > > As to whether TOMB took the song title ["Fingertips]
> > >from the Residents... I don't know. :)
>
> Sorry, "TOMB" is a great band who are also known as
> They Might Be Giants. Netscape's spell checker tricked me
> into believing that everytime I typed TMBG, I was really
> intending to type TOMB.
HAHAHAHAH!!! ^_^
That is cool!
Mike "Bewildered the hell out of me!" Leffel
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Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19971113084223.0069ffe8@pop.ben2.ucla.edu>
Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 08:42:23 -0800
From: J Chen <alecson@ucla.edu>
Subject: Re: TMBG: Chemicals and dust
from Mike:
> From what I understand, when the Chem Bros were lesser known, they were
known
>as the Dust Bros, but then then when they became more popular they changed
their
>name, because the original Dust Bros were around and you couldn't have two
>artists with the same name.
So which Dust Brothers did the Snail Dust remix? The ones that became
chemical or the original guys?
I agree with Jim that Snail Dust is one of the better remixes. It's a
remix pure and simple, modifying the original song just enough so that it's
different and fun to listen to, yet it's not too different from the song's
original ideas (did that make sense?). What I mean is, there's not all
this gratuitous quote sampling like in many of the past remixes, and thank
goodness it's not just a techno'd-up version like the S-E-X-X-Y one (I'm
sorry but, to me, it just doesn't seem like it takes much imagination to
techno-up a song).
Early in the morning and techno'd-up,
--LVJeff
========================___________________________________________... . . .
| from LVJeff | "If you hear only one song this year,
| Protected by Guan Yu |
| alecson@ucla.edu | there's something terribly wrong with you."
======================== - Kitty Carlisle, Easy Writers
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Message-Id: <3.0.32.19971113111407.0070e984@mailbox.ucdavis.edu>
Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 11:14:27 -0800
From: Nicole the Wonder Nerd <ana.ng@ufp.org>
Subject: Non-TMBG: Fruvous & DVN
>I was at the Moxy Fruvous show last night and it was purely incredible.
>Anyway, I talked to Mike Ford afterwards and he said that they got
>together with an acapello group called Davinci's Notebook and covered
>Shoehorn with Teeth! I have yet to hear D.N. but I hear they are very
>good so I will have to check it out.
I met Richard from DVN at a Fruvous concert in August. He was a really
nice guy. I hear their music's good, too; alt.music.moxy-fruvous-ites tend
to have good taste and there are a few hardcore DVN boosters on there.
Let me just say that I will cheerfully give my firstborn for a Fruvous
cover of a TMBG song. :)
> Heck, tho, I don't even know who puff daddy is.
>I guess that's what I get for not listening to the radio...
I've never heard of them either. I have this secret theory that the all my
friends are trying to psych me out by inventing band names and telling me
they're "hot". :)
--nicole the wonder nerd
***
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Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 14:30:40 -0500 (EST)
From: Adam Tyner <ctyner@cs.clemson.edu>
Subject: TMBG: OMLT news?
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.3.95.971113142935.16766A-100000@stormy10>
I haven't heard any news on the OMLT front in a while. Anything to
report?
TTYL,
-Adam, who doesn't really need a t-shirt with as cold as it is now anyway.
;)
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From: Happyfroot@aol.com
Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 14:37:57 -0500 (EST)
Message-ID: <971113143757_1435716614@mrin51.mail.aol.com>
Subject: TMBG: Remixes, Popularity, & Poop (It Might be a Long Post)
>>I suppose I can tolerate some of the remixes of TMBG songs, but the day
>>there's a Puff Daddy remix, I'm hanging up my teeth-laden shoehorn and move
>>onto another band.
Um....no offense, but to me this is sort of dumb. To stop liking a band just
because someone you don't like does a remix of them??? If this happened
would you than stop listening to TMBG???
I think that anyone who says "yes" is (no offense again) is just some kind of
odd demented trendie...(btw, if you don't all know: indie has become very
trendie & you see a lot of people saying things like "I don't like a band
because they are popular.")
My friend would always joke about buying indie stuff saying that if no one's
heard of the record company or the band, it had to be good...well...if you
believe that go to www.poingly.com . . . we have some CD's to sell you...
If for some reason all of a sudden TMBG sprung to #1 on all the charts, their
concerts sold out in 3 minutes, remixes were done by Puff Daddy, the Spice
Girls, Marilyn Manson, Snoop Doggy Dogg, Trent Reznor, the Dust Brothers,
Prodigy, etc. etc., or anything else I would still like TMBG (assuming the
music they wrote stayed the same quality), & even if the music started to
suck, I would still love their old stuff.
oh, & as for remixes...they're pretty damn easy...so I don't think it's tough
for any band to do a remix...I pretty much like remixes as well...I've heard
a few poor ones (like the NIN's Perfect Drug single, as it sounds less like
remixing & more like techoesque bands trying to create a whole new song to
the tune of the Perfect Drug).
And the reason I had to have my little rant was because I am sorta They Might
Be Gothic (as you might know from some previous letters) & get made fun of
because stereotypes dictate that goths hate bands when they become popular.
Damn stereotypes...
Jason "Pardon all my crappy spelling" "I think so Brain but how would we get
the Spice Girls in a piaya?" "...I've often been told that you can only do
what you know how to do well & that's be you. Be what you're like. Be like
yourself..." "http://www.poingly.com : this band kicks ass" Damn link
exchange censorship... "yes, I like the Foo Fighters & yes, I am seeking
professional help" (insert last name here)
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Message-Id: <199711132047.PAA01343@uwns.underworld.net>
From: "Kevin Keeler" <insanity@underworld.net>
Subject: RE: TMBG: Remixes, Popularity, & Poop...
Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 15:47:31 -0500
>>but the day
>>there's a Puff Daddy remix, I'm hanging up my teeth-laden shoehorn and
>>move onto another band.
>Um....no offense, but to me this is sort of dumb. To stop liking a band
just
>because someone you don't like does a remix of them??? If this happened
>would you than stop listening to TMBG???
I think I wil chime in with a "sarcasm!" right now. NO, thats not really
right. exaggeration would be better, because I'm sure he truly *would* be
upset...just not to the extent he said. hyperbole for all you english
majors out there. sorta like saying. "omigod! I'd kill myself if they
opened for spice girls!" cuz of course no one would actually kill themself.
and death is more believable than to stop listening to Them. logic
logic logic
Kevin Keeler
Master of Reality
***Official Member, A.. A..***
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Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 16:00:28 -0500 (EST)
Message-Id: <199711132100.QAA25481@ussenterprise.ufp.org>
From: The Denominator <kristen-maxwell@utulsa.edu>
Subject: TMBG: Dallas pix
Hey all,
I put some of the bettwe pictures from the Dallas show on a page for
all to enjoy.... go to:
http://centum.utulsa.edu/~MAXWELLKD/www/pics.html
Just to let you know, it is hard to take good photos with one hand, while
bootlegging, in the mosh pit. So please forgive any lack of quality (trust
me, there are much worse ones on the roll)
The Denomin8r
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Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 16:27:52 -0600
Subject: TMBG: mjames@greed.loyola.edu (Matthew James)
Message-ID: <19971113.163001.3406.3.bnl_bff_tmbg_fan@juno.com>
From: bnl_bff_tmbg_fan@juno.com (Jessica J Woletz)
oh, i'm jealous...i wanted to go to their show in cleveland, but it was
on a busy weekend and i couldn't go.
i'm a new fan of moxy fruvous...what is their setlist like?
Jessie
From: mjames@greed.loyola.edu (Matthew James)
>Message-Id: <9711121604.AA12101@greed.loyola.edu>
>Subject: TMBG: TMBG+Davinci's Notebook+Fruvous
>Date: Wed, 12 Nov 1997 11:04:27 -0500 (EST)
>
>Hey all,
>I was at the Moxy Fruvous show last night and it was purely
>incredible.
>Anyway, I talked to Mike Ford afterwards and he said that they got
>together with an acapello group called Davinci's Notebook and covered
>Shoehorn with Teeth! I have yet to hear D.N. but I hear they are very
>good so I will have to check it out. Also, Fruvous is playing at NPR
>in
>Washington, DC right now for a show to be broadcast at some point,
>I'll
>have to keep an ear out for when it will air.
>Matt
>--
>Matt James mjames@greed.loyola.edu
>Loyola College in Baltimore, MD
>Bruce Campbell Gazette: www.bcgazette.com
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Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19971113174515.008b7320@csrlink.net>
Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 17:45:15 -0500
From: Dylan Flipse <dflipse@csrlink.net>
Subject: TMBG:_Fruvous_quote
Dear friends,
This is from Undernet's #tmbg. MDM is our fearless leader and he saw Moxy
Fruvous this weekend.
<MDM> "...They'll need a crane, that's the best song on this eart, in case
anyone here has heard of They Might Be Giants [wild uproar] we're friends
of thiers, but only with little john, cause he's nice, the other guy's just
an ass"
He goes on to say that they then did a quick cover of TNAC. Also, he tells
me that they did a parody of Particle Man at the Baltimore show.
Dylan "What the voices in my head tell me is an entirely different manner."
Flipse
PS-The voices sound a lot like a certain Mike Leffel.
Dylan Flipse...one of them. - dflipse@csrlink.net
Dylan's page is at http://www.geocities.com/Athens/9909/ for now.
I'll never see myself in the mirror with my eyes closed -They Might
Be Giants, the coolest thing this side of Zaphod Beeblebrox.
------------------------------
From: Christi587@aol.com
Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 18:07:30 -0500 (EST)
Message-ID: <971113180050_-357173650@mrin84.mail.aol.com>
Subject: TMBG: Re: variations on the name
>The Maybe Giants, Those Musty Giants, There Must Be Giants, "Those
>Big...ahhh, I don't remember"
Hmm, I guess the best I ever heard was the lady who called into Modern Rock
Live and said, in a horrid midwestern twang, "Ah hayve a question fer The
Mighty Be Giants." She went on to ask about them touring with Hootie.
Figures.
--Christy
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Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 20:35:22 -0600 (CST)
From: Jackyl <jackyl@the-b.org>
Subject: Re: TMBG: Re: variations on the name
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.96.971113203352.2193A-100000@orator.the-b.org>
On Thu, 13 Nov 1997 Christi587@aol.com wrote:
> >The Maybe Giants, Those Musty Giants, There Must Be Giants, "Those
> >Big...ahhh, I don't remember"
>
> Hmm, I guess the best I ever heard was the lady who called into Modern Rock
> Live and said, in a horrid midwestern twang, "Ah hayve a question fer The
> Mighty Be Giants." She went on to ask about them touring with Hootie.
> Figures.
>
> --Christy
>
It's cool that someone else remembers that. But I could have sworn it was
a man? I admit it was a somewhat high piched voice, but not to the point
of a womans... Do you think s/he meant The Mighty "Be Giants" or that The
Mighty actually Be Giants?
Brandon
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From: mr.train@juno.com
Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 22:26:29 -0500
Subject: Re: TMBG:_Fruvous_quote
Message-ID: <19971113.222742.16510.0.Mr.Train@juno.com>
Ummm.. I don't understand:
fearless leader of WHAT?
and
I guess he's talking about Flans. being "just an ass"?
Anyone willing to make an mp3 or WAV of MF doing They'll need a crane?
I have Hagfish covering Twisting!
Miscellaneous Tim AKA TMB(do)G
AKA Tambo (IRC) AKA Mr.Train (OML)
On Thu, 13 Nov 1997 17:45:15 -0500 Dylan Flipse <dflipse@csrlink.net>
writes:
>Dear friends,
> This is from Undernet's #tmbg. MDM is our fearless leader and
>he saw Moxy
>Fruvous this weekend.
>
><MDM> "...They'll need a crane, that's the best song on this eart, in
>case
>anyone here has heard of They Might Be Giants [wild uproar] we're
>friends
>of thiers, but only with little john, cause he's nice, the other guy's
>just
>an ass"
>
>He goes on to say that they then did a quick cover of TNAC. Also, he
>tells
>me that they did a parody of Particle Man at the Baltimore show.
>
>Dylan "What the voices in my head tell me is an entirely different
>manner."
>Flipse
>
>PS-The voices sound a lot like a certain Mike Leffel.
>
>
>Dylan Flipse...one of them. - dflipse@csrlink.net
>Dylan's page is at http://www.geocities.com/Athens/9909/ for now.
>I'll never see myself in the mirror with my eyes closed -They Might
>Be Giants, the coolest thing this side of Zaphod Beeblebrox.
>
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From: mjames@envy.loyola.edu (Matthew James)
Message-Id: <9711140337.AA27040@envy.loyola.edu>
Subject: TMBG: Fruvous quotes
Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 22:37:25 -0500 (EST)
> Dear friends,
> This is from Undernet's #tmbg. MDM is our fearless leader and he saw Mox=
> y
> Fr=FCvous this weekend.=20
>
> <MDM> "...They'll need a crane, that's the best song on this eart, in cas=
> e
> anyone here has heard of They Might Be Giants [wild uproar] we're friends
> of thiers, but only with little john, cause he's nice, the other guy's ju=
> st
> an ass"
I think they were just being funny, I don't think they were really
dissing big John Flansburgh. Heck Jian was dissing their opening bands
in DC only to say thaty they were great opening bands, he was just
kidding around with the fans 8-)
>
> He goes on to say that they then did a quick cover of TNAC. Also, he tell=
> s
> me that they did a parody of Particle Man at the Baltimore show.
I was at the Baltimore show and they did play about 5 seconds of
Particle Man but I don't think it was a parody really, just felt like
playing a bit. But I can't rmember what they were referring to so
perhaps someone else who was at the show remembers?
Babye
Matt
--
Matt James mjames@greed.loyola.edu
Loyola College in Baltimore, MD
Bruce Campbell Gazette: www.bcgazette.com
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