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tmbg-list Digest, Volume 3, Number 93
Thursday, 3 April 1997
Today's Topics:
Re: TMBG: Re: DIE, POETS, DIE!!!
TMBG: poetry
Re: TMBG: OMLTs... please read
Re: TMBG: Yet Another MP3 Question..
NON-TMBG:OOPS, and sorry
TMBG: waste of space, Viva Variety, USAtoday, Summer Tour
TMBG: Then:TEY in Canada
TMBG: TMBG.COM Questions....
Re: TMBG: waste of space, Viva Variety, USAtoday, Summer Tour
TMBG: Re: TMBG Quotes
Re: TMBG: Calm As Salad
TMBG: Interview w/ Flans
TMBG: #3-92
TMBG: site problems?
TMBG: WOW!
Re: NonTMBG: April 8th
Re: NON-TMBG: P3 player
TMBG: popping my head back in
TMBG: Purdue show, this MP3 business...
TMBG: TMBG & Non- if i can remember
Re: TMBG: site problems?
Re: NonTMBG: April 8th
TMBG: TMBG on AOL news
Re: TMBG: popping my head back
Re: TMBG: popping my head back in
TMBG: Razor Burn....etc.
TMBG: oh the stupidity!
TMBG: FS unreleased songs, reviewed by me.
TMBG: TMBG in Japan
TMBG: FS Sessions
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Date: Fri, 29 Jul 1994 08:32:07 -0600 (MDT)
From: Joyce Frost <frostjo@beernut.enmu.edu>
Subject: Re: TMBG: Re: DIE, POETS, DIE!!!
Message-Id: <Pine.NXT.3.91.940729082403.13284E-100000@beernut>
I will make this as short as possible...*CLAP**Appluad*...why complain so
much...we all love TMBG and that is the important thing...geeze if you
were on as many liservs as I am with work etc, you would accept the fact
that people sometimes forget to not forward everthing, and that griping
usually does little to help and more to harm making people bitter...the
original poem was sent to be shared, as was the second...didn't we all
learn to share what we found important in Kindergarden?
-Joyce
Joyce Frost the stuggling poetess who finds poetry in stuggling...
"Roland said politely to Valerie, 'If I may say a word." He turned to the
others. 'These students are here to examine us at my invitation. They are
concerned for our health and mean well. Please do not kill or maim them
without speaking to me first.'"
-Roland (a griffin) ["The Healing of Crossroads" by Nick O'Donohoe]
pg. 173
On Tue, 1 Apr 1997 LeviAdams@aol.com wrote:
> hm. well, there *is* a little thing called the scrollbar that allows one to
> move on past sections of a digest that they wish not to read :D.. i've found
> quite funny the fact that twice as much space has been spent yelling at the
> people talking about the poem than was actually wasted in the original poem
> messages.. ah well, i suppose this kind of logic is just beyond me..
>
> -levi "have anymore poems?" adams
>
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From: "Sandra Veldhuizen" <15876@foo.hva.nl>
Organization: Hogeschool van Amsterdam, FOO
Date: Wed, 2 Apr 1997 14:24:02 GMT+0100
Subject: TMBG: poetry
Message-ID: <6675D788F@foobee.foo.hva.nl>
"Klein vogeltje zwierezwaait hoog in de lucht
en laat er zijn fluitertje schallen
een vleugeltje links en een vleugeltje rechts
om niet op zijn bekje te vallen"
This is a poem for everybody who likes to annoy everybody else by
writing enormous messages about how much poetry annoys them.
What has this got to do with They Might Be Giants?
Well, because I live in the Netherlands I have only been to a
TMBG-concert twice in my whole life. This is a sad thing.
The only thing that keeps me going, is the fact that I am able to
read wonderfully beautiful funny and sweet poems in Dutch, AND YOU
CAN'T!
AKA mrs. Horrible
P.S.
Pardon my French ( It's even worse than my English).
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From: wglodell@baraboo.com (Wyatt Glodell)
Subject: Re: TMBG: OMLTs... please read
Date: Wed, 2 Apr 1997 07:35:44 -0600
Message-ID: <19970402133541539.AAB309@ppp169.baraboo.com>
>If you feel like making a last-ditch effort to save the current OMLT price,
>send mail to christy@tmbg.org and include:
>--Number, size of shirts wanted
>--Name and address for shipping
>--E-mail address used most
Umm, well.. i could count as an order, but i probably cant pay on time, as i
already said. If you want to order one and i'll pay you like 2 - 4 weeks
late, go ahead and order:
1 XL OMLT
Wyatt Glodell, 1023 East St. Baraboo, WI 53913
wglodell@baraboo.com
is this past the deadline?? hmmm... sorry if it is, but i
havn't read my mail and am just catching up.
-Wyatt
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From: wglodell@baraboo.com (Wyatt Glodell)
Subject: Re: TMBG: Yet Another MP3 Question..
Date: Wed, 2 Apr 1997 07:35:42 -0600
Message-ID: <19970402133541539.AAA309@ppp169.baraboo.com>
At 03:16 PM 3/31/97 -0600, Mike Leffel wrote:
>
>
>Okay... to those who are preaching the goodness
>of MP3's... Are you using players that have no
>time limit? Have you all found 'cracks'? Or did you
>all register you players???? Help!!
>
>I *finally* got some MP3's, and I FINALLY found
>a player that didn't crash when played... but it's
>WinPlay 3 and it's only fancy is to play
>2o second selections in it's unregistered mode...
>
>I hope nobody who knows how to get around this
>would kindly help me out, because that would be
>wrong. Wrong. Do you hear me?
>
>Mike "Music For Free Is Music For Me!" Leffel
>
this is probably too late, and someone probably gave you this already, oh well:
Yeah, i had the same problem, and i DID NOT find this registration number
that DEFINATELY DOESNT WORK to let it play more than 20 seconds.
RegistrationName=WINPLAY REG
RegistrationCode=100011-301000-5000
see, thats EXACTLY what i DID NOT get, and it will DEFINATELY NOT work to
register i t, so enjoy :).
-Wyatt "how do you use winplay 3's playlists???" Glodell
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From: wglodell@baraboo.com (Wyatt Glodell)
Subject: NON-TMBG:OOPS, and sorry
Date: Wed, 2 Apr 1997 07:49:39 -0600
Message-ID: <19970402134938202.AAA81@ppp169.baraboo.com>
Those last two messages were not supposed to go to the list....
oops. I forgot and left REPLY-ALL on (in my version of eudora, it is an
option) and i forgot to delete tmbg-list from the To: header..... hehheh. oops.
-Wyatt "another pointless post, sorry again" Glodell
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Message-Id: <9704021403.AA02465@uvm-gen.emba.uvm.edu>
Date: Wed, 02 Apr 1997 08:47:12 -0500
From: ntodd@uvm-gen.emba.uvm.edu (Nathan Todd)
Subject: TMBG: waste of space, Viva Variety, USAtoday, Summer Tour
>hm. well, there *is* a little thing called the scrollbar that allows one to
>move on past sections of a digest that they wish not to read :D.. i've found
>quite funny the fact that twice as much space has been spent yelling at the
>people talking about the poem than was actually wasted in the original poem
>messages.. ah well, i suppose this kind of logic is just beyond me..
The original poem messages wasted a *TON* of space, I highly doubt the
complaints have added up to that amount. Also, at least a few of the
complaints have made attempts to be tmbg-related (such as mine and a couple
others I saw). On top of that it *is* important to the list that we try to
explain to ppl not to quote entire messages and printing long entirely
unrelated poems. Because of this the complaints *are* list-related, which
is important even though it isn't specifically tmbg-related. Also, if there
wasn't an immediate backlash whenever someone sends something huge and
stupid to the list, it would probably escelate into much more wasted space
than if there was.
TMBG
I may have missed this part when ppl were originally discussing Viva
Variety, but what exactly is it? When is it on, what network, etc? I'd
really like to see it if it's available around here, but I've just never
heard of it before.
Oh, THEN: TEY was reviewed in the life section of yesterday's USA today
paper (a thousand ppl have prolly already mentioned this and since I'm on
the digest I'm now making a fool of myself, but oh well!). Although they
did give the album 3 1/2 stars out of 4, they also mentioned the words
'humor' and that little annoying one that starts with a 'q.' There was also
that nice linnell/accordian and flans/guitar pic that was on tmbg.org for a
long time (perhaps it still is). Not only that but in the same issue they
review the new BFF album, but only give it 3 stars...
Finally, does anyone know if tmbg are going to be touring throughout the
summer, or if they'll be stopping to take a break and record 'thing'? I
really want to see them this summer and if they're anywhere aroudn new
england I'm going to make a couple long trips to see them a couple of times
if they're only touring...
Nathan Todd <nathan@tmbg.org> a.k.a. Tenman
*~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~www.emba.uvm.edu/~ntodd~~~~>
An individualist is a man who says:
"I will not run anyone's life - nor let anyone run mine.
I will not rule or be ruled.
I will not be a master nor a slave.
I will not sacrifice myself to anyone - nor sacrifice anyone to myself."
-- Ayn Rand, "Textbook of Americanism"
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Date: Wed, 2 Apr 1997 09:46:58 -0500 (EST)
From: Robert Mootrey u <moot2120@mach1.wlu.ca>
Subject: TMBG: Then:TEY in Canada
Message-ID: <Pine.3.89.9704020915.A18822-0100000@mach1.wlu.ca>
Don't let the subject fool you, I haven't been able to find it either,
but I did get some comprehension at Dr Disc. They had it (the old
February date) listed in their upcoming releases on their newsletter, or
whatever. I've ordered a copy from there, and I keep ckecking back at the
store, and the guy keeps saying he's surprised it hasn't showed up yet.
The last thing he said is that he thinks it'll be there by Friday. This
other chick at the store always gives me the same spiel about how only
BIG bands like U2 actually get their stuff out in the stores on the day
that it's supposed to be released!
From what I've read on this list the situation is different, South of the
border!
At HMV, they looked at me like I was crazy.
BTW, I've had the same trouble trying to find the new Bobby McFerrin
album that was supposed to be out yesterday.
-Sean Mootrey.
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Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19970402121339.007cccb0@mail.ee.net>
Date: Wed, 02 Apr 1997 12:13:39 -0500
From: Evan Chakroff <chakroff@ee.net>
Subject: TMBG: TMBG.COM Questions....
I was wondering, the EP MP3 files on ftp.tmbg.com are in the incoming
directory, are they "Official" or did someone upload them just for the hell
of it?
And as some may have noticed, there are several new songs in the DAS wavs
directory, what is the point of putting unreleased songs on the internet?
(Don't get me wrong, I like it...) But, wouldn't it be better for THEM to
put out another album more quickly, rather than put unreleased songs on the
web page? (And, another thing, what's the point of Official DAS Online, the
point of the original DAS was to get the word out, and they advertised it,
but the only people who know about DAS online are people like us, and those
who visit tmbg.com)
well. um... yeah.
-ec
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Subject: Re: TMBG: waste of space, Viva Variety, USAtoday, Summer Tour
Message-ID: <19970402.140548.4446.1.tmbgmail-bin@juno.com>
From: tmbgmail-bin@juno.com (Evan R Kleve)
Date: Wed, 02 Apr 1997 14:05:11 EST
>Finally, does anyone know if tmbg are going to be touring throughout
>the
>summer, or if they'll be stopping to take a break and record 'thing'?
What's "thing"?
-Evan R. Kleve (Kleavage)
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I've turned off my hearing aid
Don't say the electric chair's not good enough
for king-lazy-bones like myself
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From: Kamesennin@aol.com
Date: Wed, 2 Apr 1997 14:30:45 -0500 (EST)
Message-ID: <970402143043_-1068180035@emout18.mail.aol.com>
Subject: TMBG: Re: TMBG Quotes
Here's one of John F. right after he royally messed up the guitar intro to
The Statue at a live show (I have no idea which one...)
"I was trying something daring on that last song, and I completely wiped out,
I don't know if you caught it... [laughter from audience] I thought I was
gonna really express myself as a rock guitarist, but I completely, once
again... my muse has let me down..."
Feel free to chop that quote into little bits to make it funnier or more
insightful or speculative or metaphysical or whatever.
-Hello! From Geoff "I can't think of an aka to save my life" Sondergard aka
Kamesennin@aol.com (Hey, I just thought of one!)
P.S. Then is great, but I don't really notice and remastering... What songs
are you guys picking out that sound a lot different than the previous
versions?
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Date: Wed, 2 Apr 1997 14:28:04 -0500 (EST)
From: Katherine Johnson <katie@argo.net>
Subject: Re: TMBG: Calm As Salad
Message-ID: <Pine.SV4.3.91.970402142736.3242A-100000@zeus>
They NEVER check youre ID unless youre going to drink....chance it!! I
would if I were you.
Katie
On Tue, 1 Apr 1997, Big.Bad.Robbie.G. wrote:
>
> Okie doakie. I'm over my initial anger and I know will speak about this calmly
> on one condition. If after I make this announcement, any person who is going to
> the concert celebrates or mentions this again on the list, I swear I'll
> mailbomb the hell out of them. This isn't a threat, I just want you to know
> That I can and I will.
>
>
> Okay, I was going to go to the show at the Avalon, but I can't because it's 18+
> , now the announcement.
>
>
> The show is going to be a THEN show. Yes, a THEN show. Just like the 2/21
> irving plaza show, except for one thing. The F***ing Velcro Horns are going to
> be there. If you don't believe me, go to TMBG.com.
>
>
> That's all
>
>
>
>
> Also, Is that Flans' handwriting on the setlist in the liner notes of then? If
> it is my setlist just got a lot cooler.
> ___ _ _ _ ___ _ _ _ _ _ _
> | . \ ___ | |_ ___ _ _ _| |_ | | / _> _ _ ___ | |_ <_>| || | | || |
> | // . \| . \/ ._>| '_> | | | |_ _ | <_/\| '_><_> || . \| || || | | || |
> |_\_\\___/|___/\___.|_| |_| |___|<_> `____/|_| <___||___/|_||_||_| |_||_|
> "Oh, No, NO! They're doing it clown style!"
> -Servo "Here comes the Circus"
>
>
>
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Subject: TMBG: Interview w/ Flans
Message-ID: <19970402.154000.4550.0.tmbgmail-bin@juno.com>
From: tmbgmail-bin@juno.com (Evan R Kleve)
Date: Wed, 02 Apr 1997 15:40:03 EST
Hey everyone! Hope you enjoy this. My friend found it on aol.
-Evan R. Kleve (Kleavage)
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I've turned off my hearing aid
Don't say the electric chair's not good enough
for king-lazy-bones like myself
By JIM SULLIVAN
.c 1997, The Boston Globe
BPI
(April 2) - John Flansburgh, the bespectacled guitar-playing half
of
the quirky pop duo <A HREF="http://www.isc.rit.edu/~thm1941/they/">They
Might
Be Giants</A>, is on the phone from Down Under and he is asked how the
earthy
Australians are perceiving the nerdy New Yorkers.
''We're popularly misunderstood here,'' says Flansburgh, with good
cheer.
''They're into unpretentious music in general - they like their rock
straight, no chaser, and they somehow have mistaken us for an
unpretentious
band, and we don't have the nerve to tell them we're art-rockers. It's a
very
unneurotic culture. In some ways, imagine if California had turned out
OK.
There's a lot of the beach-culture thing, but it's pretty urban. And it's
summer. We get to completely miss winter! We might be pretentious, but
we're
not stupid.''
No, they're not. Flansburgh and partner, accordionist-keyboardist
John
Linnell, have carved out a sizable cult following over the past decade as
purveyors of catchy, multilayered pop with hits such as ''Birdhouse in
Your
Soul'' and ''S-E-X-X-Y.'' The duo has expanded the band over the course
of
the years and, in concert, it's now a septet. Sometimes.
Here's what they're doing in an upcoming concert: ''We've supersized
the
show,'' says Flansburgh. (They Might Be Giants as fast food? For an extra
39
cents ... ) ''We're opening for ourselves. It's They Might Be Giants
circa
'89 opening for They Might Be Giants '97. We're doing this set of songs
from
back then, from 'Lincoln,' from the first album and obscure songs. First,
we'll do the duo show, for 30-40 minutes, 14 songs. It's like
leapfrogging
backwards. I think in doing this we realized how much the (duo) format
made
us completely different than a regular rock band. That wasn't necessarily
our
intention. But it reminded us how much we were not a rock band for five
years. Probably the only people who thought we were a rock band were
onstage.
(The duo format) started to feel like a puppet show.''
But here's where Flansburgh feels They Might Be Giants has an
advantage
over some groups with similar longevity. ''Because we've always done what
we
were interested in, we don't hate our careers. A lot of bands do things
they're not quite interested in, and you see people be tortured by their
early careers - the 'unrepresentative first single.' ''
This tour coincides with the release of a double-CD compilation of
early
material on Restless Records, ''Then: The Earlier Years.'' They're signed
to
Elektra and plan to record a new album this summer; Flansburgh will
release
an album in the fall with his side band, Monopuff.
Because TMBG often incorporates humor into its songs, the combo gets
tagged with labels such as quirky and novelty. ''As I've gotten older,''
says
Flansburgh, ''I've realized it's our cross to bear. It doesn't
necessarily
reflect on our intentions or is the sum total of what we do. But it's
better
not to become some contrarian rock guy - just protesting a very surface
read
of what you do. A lot of bands, all they do is demand they be taken
seriously. We appear insignificant because we don't demand to be taken
seriously, but it's my contention that rock music in general is not
important. You might want to understand that the medium of your
expression is
trivial.''
Nevertheless, Flansburgh says, ''the pop song is such an incredibly
interesting vehicle for ideas. It's really efficient, streamlined. It's
this
great compressed thought. You can achieve so much perfection within that
medium. It's like haiku, its brevity is where its strength lies ... I
think
we communicate a lot of interesting ideas, and there's a lot to dive
into.
We're not a party band, not just a good-time band. We're interested in a
lot
of adult angst-filled issues, but how you present those ideas, it's part
of
our job to keep it interesting. It's not just about getting it off your
chest. I feel like we're working within this self-serious medium in a
more
realistic way... Everybody in rock wants to be taken more seriously. It's
kind of grim. I don't think this is what Chuck Berry or Little Richard
wanted. I don't think this is our heritage: to be crying in the corner
saying
people don't understand me.''
But he says being misunderstood is the price they pay for being
ambitious. ''We do a lot of different kinds of things. We do songs that
are
messed up and don't make immediate sense and we do some that are
relatively
straight ahead. We do character songs. We have a continuing love affair
with
arrangement, to take a normal idea and turn it inside out or take a
lopsided
idea and put it in a pristine setting to make it seem justified. I can't
be
surprised or complain that this strange, complicated art-rock band is
misunderstood.''
APEX-04-02-97 0944EST
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Subject: TMBG: #3-92
Message-ID: <19970402.162538.12470.0.TMBgirl@juno.com>
From: tmbgirl@juno.com (I have no Name)
Date: Wed, 02 Apr 1997 18:26:19 EST
sorry to post this soooo late in case of if any fool fell for this
scheme....
If anyone's interested in trading, I have a CD single (promo only) of
TMBG's
S-E-X-X-Y (prcd 9637-2)-
it has the radio mix (3:19)
and the Warren Rigg Microwave Mix (7:52)
it's a pretty cool collectible- it just has the Elektra art on the back,
with all the TMBG info.
The CD itself is pink with yellow lettering.
whoever posted that... you can get a copy of this at any Tower records
store... yes, i know you're thinking that i'm thinking of the REAL
S~E~X~X~Y single but you, my friend are mistaken....
it's been sitting at my local tower records store for quite some time and
actually it's not worth a rat;s ass
> Oh yeah, and I think i may have found Linny's email, but out of privacy
> I'm not gonna say.
>
That is way too cruel to even be an April Fool's joke. Posts like this
one
should be banned :)
okay, if that is an april fools day joke i'll have to harm whoever sent
it!! let us kill them!!! you will burn like a snowball in hell...
I am trying desperately to get an interview with the illustrious
Johns, and if all goes well, I will be speaking with them sometime this
month.
how exactly do you plan on getting an interview with THem??? =)
No one in the world ever gets what they want and that is beautiful,
Everybody dies frustrated and sad and that is beautiful,
they want what they're not and I wish they would stop....
JODA
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Message-Id: <3.0.32.19970402164156.006cb884@peseta.ucdavis.edu>
Date: Wed, 02 Apr 1997 16:42:07 -0800
From: Nicole the Wonder Nerd <ana.ng@tmbg.org>
Subject: TMBG: site problems?
Has anyone else been having problems connecting to the official or
unofficial sites today (4-2)? I haven't been able to get through all day.
--nicole the wonder nerd
***
"If it wasn't for disappointments, I wouldn't have any appointments." -They
Might Be Giants
Visit Nicolopolis! http://wwwcsif.cs.ucdavis.edu/~carlsonn
nmcarlson@ucdavis.edu carlsonn@cs.ucdavis.edu ana.ng@tmbg.org
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Subject: TMBG: WOW!
Message-ID: <19970402.193357.4366.0.tmbgmail-bin@juno.com>
From: tmbgmail-bin@juno.com (Evan R Kleve)
Date: Wed, 02 Apr 1997 19:33:54 EST
I don't believe it. Besides me, knowbody's posted in over five hours!
Don't mind me, just taking up space!
-Evan R. Kleve (Kleavage)
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I've turned off my hearing aid
Don't say the electric chair's not good enough
for king-lazy-bones like myself
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From: EGODEATH7@aol.com
Date: Wed, 2 Apr 1997 20:49:56 -0500 (EST)
Message-ID: <970402204849_-1101686111@emout11.mail.aol.com>
Subject: Re: NonTMBG: April 8th
>>>>>Yes, you did see TMBG on the add for Viva Variety on Comedy Central,
they >>are
>> appearing (I think on April 8th..but i'm not exactly sure)
>>
>>meg
After I wrote this I got a WRONG rude responce..sorry to say i told you so,
but I was a little mad.
>>>>>Subj: TMBG: Viva Variety
Date: 97-03-22 21:27:13 EST
From: SquirlHead@aol.com
Sender: owner-tmbg-list@ussodyssey.ufp.org
Reply-to: SquirlHead@aol.com
To: tmbg-list@tmbg.org
I figured by now everyone knew They are playing on Viva Variety on APRIL 1st!
(some said the 8th. hee hee). We've announced this to death! WAKE UP!!!!!!
Once again sorry and frustrated,
Dan E. Boy
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Date: Wed, 2 Apr 1997 16:58:30 -0800 (PST)
Message-Id: <1.5.4.16.19970402165239.3587d8c6@proaxis.com>
From: Celestia <tooms@proaxis.com>
Subject: Re: NON-TMBG: P3 player
>> Tim "why is every body copying Lefel's sig" Murphy
>
>Mike "Because I Kick Ass" Leffel :)
>
>(*thanks to Celestia)
Ha ha! Thankyou for the credit, Mike! (who does, in fact, kick ass).
By the way mike, sorry i haven't written-my e-mail is pretty much restricted
thanks to my parents sucking. i never got a response from you last time
anyway :( why hast thou forsaken me? :)
Celestia, tooms@proaxis.com
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Message-Id: <1.5.4.32.19970403015226.006743a4@uc.campus.mci.net>
Date: Wed, 02 Apr 1997 20:52:26 -0500
From: Kelley Kent <kkent@uc.campus.mci.net>
Subject: TMBG: popping my head back in
Well, I'm back from break and a lot busier than last 1/4, so
I've rejoined in digest form.
As for my spring break resolutions, 0 were accomplished. :(
I did buy Then, but it was an early b-day present for my bro.
Being the unemployed college man that I am, I couldn't afford
a copy for me, but in time I shall acquire a copy. As for the
singles, yeah right. Central Ohio must have an all-store
boycott on They singles. And you ask someone on staff for
help, usually some little high school twit (no offense to
those on the list), and you get "The Gaze." You know, the one
where they tilt their head down, look at you down their nose,
and literally raise their eyebrows off their forehead as if to
say "Yeah, like that's real music."
Anywho, the job hunt has begun and I am learning 3 new
programming languages this 1/4 (just a little sidebar for CS
majors), so time is very precious. So I better go.
Kelley Kent (kkent@uc.campus.mci.net)
20 year old college MALE
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Date: Wed, 2 Apr 1997 21:46:32 -0500 (EST)
From: Queen Sneepy <smelliot@indiana.edu>
Subject: TMBG: Purdue show, this MP3 business...
Message-ID: <Pine.HPP.3.91.970402213514.9559B-100000@falstaff.ucs.indiana.edu>
Ok, there was this rumour running around that They were playing at Purdue
at some festival or other, and that it might be free. A. What was that
all about, B. Was it true? I know, Matt Coon, that you go to Purdue, do
you have any info about this? What's going on? Where am I? Who are all of
you people? Um...sorry...
This MP3 stuff, what's that all about? Are these for PC's only?
(Ecch...) What with all of this brouhaha about how wonderful they are, I
would like to partake of the bounty, but I don't know what they are and
don't know if I can use them. Help!
_______> Stefanie Elliott <____> smelliot@falstaff.ucs.indiana.edu <_____
// \\
// "You know, you can't make an omlet without breaking a few \\
eggs- That's evil for ya!
-Charles, "The Tick"
TMBG + Conan O'Brien + MiSTie #14672 + Medievalist + Star Wars + DNRC = Fun!
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Message-ID: <334319DE.5BD3@geocities.com>
Date: Wed, 02 Apr 1997 18:45:50 -0800
From: vlad_drakul <vlad_drakul@geocities.com>
Subject: TMBG: TMBG & Non- if i can remember
Listening to WDTSS? MIDI right now...
Uh... I forgot what i was gonna say...
But I DID FIND ANOTHER Gianthead who (get THIS) LIVES in the same podunk
town (Bellingham, 50K pop.) in the same podunk state (Washington, that
little one up in NW US)... and he goes to a high school that I would go
to, but I'm going to another...
Uh... what else? OH YEAh... I found a TMBG MSPLUS theme!!! It's at
this address:
http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~shaggy1/Themes_5.htm
Oh yeah... I was coming back from UT during winter break, and who did i
see? A guy who looked EXACTLY like Flans!! FLANS!!! It probably was
Flans, but I'm kicking myself for not building up the nerve to go up and
say (very very nervously and blushing my head off) "um... eh heh... is
your last name (by any chance) maybe Flansburgh??" and sitting there
thinking <pleasepleasepleaseplease> until he finally said "No, sorry."
Oh well, it was kinda a lose/lose situation anyway... he probably
wouldn't have admitted it.
Uh... i forgot what the non-TMBG message was (and I'll probably remember
like 3 seconds after the messge is sent), and since none of us like
non-tmbg messages on the TMBG mailing list, I'll just leave now...
--
Vladimir Drakul
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From: Yoel97@aol.com
Date: Wed, 2 Apr 1997 22:12:09 -0500 (EST)
Message-ID: <970402221158_-736467950@emout01.mail.aol.com>
Subject: Re: TMBG: site problems?
In a message dated 97-04-02 22:09:27 EST, ana.ng@tmbg.org (Nicole the Wonder
Nerd) writes:
<< Has anyone else been having problems connecting to the official or
unofficial sites today (4-2)? I haven't been able to get through all day.
--nicole the wonder nerd >>
I was in the tmbg.org master lyric section today and I downloaded sounds from
Tmbg.com
joel
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From: SquirlHead@aol.com
Date: Wed, 2 Apr 1997 22:17:08 -0500 (EST)
Message-ID: <970402221441_-1503663692@emout18.mail.aol.com>
Subject: Re: NonTMBG: April 8th
Nobody seems to be catching on: I'm a moron, ok. Besides people were
posting left and right about how TMBG would be on April, and I wasn't the
only one upset by these suposedly inane posts. Usually I'd say I'm sorry,
but I've said that waaaayyy to much on this list. From now on, I lurk.
Your Welcome
Me
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From: KdsInThHal@aol.com
Date: Wed, 2 Apr 1997 22:19:38 -0500 (EST)
Message-ID: <970402221932_774129054@emout03.mail.aol.com>
Subject: TMBG: TMBG on AOL news
This was on AOL today; forgive me if it's already been mentioned. I'm a week
and 1/2 behind on my digests, with holiday, homework - and my dog having been
put to sleep 2 days ago. :(
But i digress...
(so they use the "q" word..)
__
By JIM SULLIVAN
.c 1997, The Boston Globe
BPI
(April 2) - John Flansburgh, the bespectacled guitar-playing half of
the quirky pop duo They Might Be Giants, is on the phone from Down Under and
he is asked how the earthy Australians are perceiving the nerdy New Yorkers.
''We're popularly misunderstood here,'' says Flansburgh, with good cheer.
''They're into unpretentious music in general - they like their rock
straight, no chaser, and they somehow have mistaken us for an unpretentious
band, and we don't have the nerve to tell them we're art-rockers. It's a very
unneurotic culture. In some ways, imagine if California had turned out OK.
There's a lot of the beach-culture thing, but it's pretty urban. And it's
summer. We get to completely miss winter! We might be pretentious, but we're
not stupid.''
No, they're not. Flansburgh and partner, accordionist-keyboardist John
Linnell, have carved out a sizable cult following over the past decade as
purveyors of catchy, multilayered pop with hits such as ''Birdhouse in Your
Soul'' and ''S-E-X-X-Y.'' The duo has expanded the band over the course of
the years and, in concert, it's now a septet. Sometimes.
Here's what they're doing in an upcoming concert: ''We've supersized the
show,'' says Flansburgh. (They Might Be Giants as fast food? For an extra 39
cents ... ) ''We're opening for ourselves. It's They Might Be Giants circa
'89 opening for They Might Be Giants '97. We're doing this set of songs from
back then, from 'Lincoln,' from the first album and obscure songs. First,
we'll do the duo show, for 30-40 minutes, 14 songs. It's like leapfrogging
backwards. I think in doing this we realized how much the (duo) format made
us completely different than a regular rock band. That wasn't necessarily our
intention. But it reminded us how much we were not a rock band for five
years. Probably the only people who thought we were a rock band were onstage.
(The duo format) started to feel like a puppet show.''
But here's where Flansburgh feels They Might Be Giants has an advantage
over some groups with similar longevity. ''Because we've always done what we
were interested in, we don't hate our careers. A lot of bands do things
they're not quite interested in, and you see people be tortured by their
early careers - the 'unrepresentative first single.' ''
This tour coincides with the release of a double-CD compilation of early
material on Restless Records, ''Then: The Earlier Years.'' They're signed to
Elektra and plan to record a new album this summer; Flansburgh will release
an album in the fall with his side band, Monopuff.
Because TMBG often incorporates humor into its songs, the combo gets
tagged with labels such as quirky and novelty. ''As I've gotten older,'' says
Flansburgh, ''I've realized it's our cross to bear. It doesn't necessarily
reflect on our intentions or is the sum total of what we do. But it's better
not to become some contrarian rock guy - just protesting a very surface read
of what you do. A lot of bands, all they do is demand they be taken
seriously. We appear insignificant because we don't demand to be taken
seriously, but it's my contention that rock music in general is not
important. You might want to understand that the medium of your expression is
trivial.''
Nevertheless, Flansburgh says, ''the pop song is such an incredibly
interesting vehicle for ideas. It's really efficient, streamlined. It's this
great compressed thought. You can achieve so much perfection within that
medium. It's like haiku, its brevity is where its strength lies ... I think
we communicate a lot of interesting ideas, and there's a lot to dive into.
We're not a party band, not just a good-time band. We're interested in a lot
of adult angst-filled issues, but how you present those ideas, it's part of
our job to keep it interesting. It's not just about getting it off your
chest. I feel like we're working within this self-serious medium in a more
realistic way... Everybody in rock wants to be taken more seriously. It's
kind of grim. I don't think this is what Chuck Berry or Little Richard
wanted. I don't think this is our heritage: to be crying in the corner saying
people don't understand me.''
But he says being misunderstood is the price they pay for being
ambitious. ''We do a lot of different kinds of things. We do songs that are
messed up and don't make immediate sense and we do some that are relatively
straight ahead. We do character songs. We have a continuing love affair with
arrangement, to take a normal idea and turn it inside out or take a lopsided
idea and put it in a pristine setting to make it seem justified. I can't be
surprised or complain that this strange, complicated art-rock band is
misunderstood.''
APEX-04-02-97 0944EST
__
sarah :)
linnellgirl@tmbg.org
http://members.aol.com/kdsinthhal/site.html
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Date: Wed, 02 Apr 1997 23:01:35 -0500 (EST)
From: Heather L Garver <hgarver@ddt.eng.uc.edu>
Subject: Re: TMBG: popping my head back
Message-id: <Pine.GSO.3.95.970402225542.13299A-100000@boston.occ.uc.edu>
s for the
> singles, yeah right. Central Ohio must have an all-store
> boycott on They singles. And you ask someone on staff for
> help, usually some little high school twit (no offense to
> those on the list), and you get "The Gaze." You know, the one
> where they tilt their head down, look at you down their nose,
> and literally raise their eyebrows off their forehead as if to
> say "Yeah, like that's real music."
I know exactly what you mean, the only single I have found recently is
SEXXY, which I of course already have, so things have become frustrating.
I did however, get Then, I was in Detroit at the time, though. Went on a
lovely tour of Cleveland, Niagra Falls, Toronto, Detroit, and Ft. Wayne,
IN over break with the chorus here at UC. In ft wayne, we had a banquet,
to celebrate the end of the tour (no pun intended), and I asked if the DJ
had any TMBG, the response I got was this "what do you mean like particle
man?" Oh well.
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Message-Id: <m0wCdsT-001JXhC@remcen.ehhs.cmich.edu>
Date: Wed, 2 Apr 97 23:11 EST
From: kbrodbec@remcen.ehhs.cmich.edu (Kirsten Brodbeck)
Subject: Re: TMBG: popping my head back in
And you ask someone on staff for
>help, usually some little high school twit (no offense to
>those on the list), and you get "The Gaze." You know, the one
>where they tilt their head down, look at you down their nose,
>and literally raise their eyebrows off their forehead as if to
>say "Yeah, like that's real music."
Which must be why I can't get a job there, despite being somewhat
twittish. ;) Because I know about *real* music, darnit, and they don't
need people like me there!
Kirsten
(still peeved that they told me to call on Friday and when I did, they
said they'd filled the position! bastards!)
--
"To sing, to laugh, to dream, to walk in my own way and be alone, free,
with an eye to see things as they are.." - from _Cyrano de Bergerac_
Kirsten Brodbeck kbrodbec@remcen.ehhs.cmich.edu AKA Crow AKA Brodie
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Date: Wed, 2 Apr 1997 23:16:08 -0500 (EST)
From: Elitza Nicolaou <enicolao@scnc.waverly.k12.mi.us>
Subject: TMBG: Razor Burn....etc.
Message-ID: <Pine.BSF.3.95.970402231105.26382B-100000@scnc.waverly.k12.mi.us>
Hey/hay,
I am in the process of FINALLY listening to SEXXY-5. I really really
really like Sensurround and Unforgottne, and WGAWTS too. Plus Tower had 2
copies of Back to Skull and FIVE WHOLE COPIES of T:TEY. Which I didn't
have enough money to buy :( but I will soon :D
Okay, so here's my non-TMBG content: DOes anyone have a decent remedy for
a serious case of razor burn? I'm supposed to wear shorts tomorrow but my
legs are covered with razor burn- this is the worst I've ever had.
Unhappiness. Plus I might be grounded next week during spring break. More
unhappiness. HOWEVER I am going to look at a $1390 VW van on Friday as a
possibility for a first car :) :) :) It would be cool. Happiness.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Elitza Nicolaou ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
"The Spork Princess"
ana-ng@poetic.com
http://www.geocities.com/CollegePark/Quad/1317
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too late to turn back now, i'm running out of sound/ and i am changing,
changing/ and if we died right now, this fool you love somehow is here
with you/ i won't deny the pain/ i won't deny the change/ and should i
fall from grace here with you/ would you leave me too? -SP "Galapogos"
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Message-Id: <m0wCdwz-001JXjC@remcen.ehhs.cmich.edu>
Date: Wed, 2 Apr 97 23:16 EST
From: kbrodbec@remcen.ehhs.cmich.edu (Kirsten Brodbeck)
Subject: TMBG: oh the stupidity!
*sigh* What is this world coming to? My buddy Rockford was
attempting to do research in the school library for his informative speech
on TMBG (love this child!) the other day when he came across an unexpected
roadblock: the lyrics to SEXXY were blocked out by SurfWatch!!! Foolish,
foolish machine! I didn't know whether to laugh or be indignant.
Frankly, the whole decency thing seems suddenly frightening...
Kirsten
(contemplating the future)
--
"To sing, to laugh, to dream, to walk in my own way and be alone, free,
with an eye to see things as they are.." - from _Cyrano de Bergerac_
Kirsten Brodbeck kbrodbec@remcen.ehhs.cmich.edu AKA Crow AKA Brodie
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Message-Id: <3.0.32.19970402202506.00686f64@peseta.ucdavis.edu>
Date: Wed, 02 Apr 1997 20:28:27 -0800
From: Nicole the Wonder Nerd <ana.ng@tmbg.org>
Subject: TMBG: FS unreleased songs, reviewed by me.
Hi 'vryone
Having recently come into possession of the studio version of the FS
unreleased songs (On The Drag, Counterfeit Faker, Certain People I Could
Name, Reprehensible, Older, They Got Lost, and Rat Patrol), I feel
compelled to share my thoughts. Humor me, will you? Thanks. :)
On The Drag-- MUCH more hard rockin' than anything I've heard from our
beloved Giants. My parents would hate this. :) (Of course, these are the
same people who categorized New York City as "noise.") I really like the
song, though.
Counterfeit Faker--I don't like it, but it's been running through my head
all day. Guess that says something...
Certain People I Could Name-- An extremely depressing view of human nature
set to a beautiful, lullaby-like melody. I think it's about the capacity
for callousness, insensitivity, and evil in all of us. The song argues
that television has done much to foster our startling callousness towards
both human and natural violence.
Reprehensible-- A very 40's song, about an old evildoer and his cheerful
dismissal of his pangs of conscience.
Older-- What can I say? It's way cool, and if I had my way, it would
replace "Happy Birthday" as the commonly-sung birthday song. :) And I
love the counterpoint at the end--it sounds like they're singing it in rounds.
They Got Lost-- Very mellow and slow, with straightforward lyrics about
Their adventures behind the wheel. Offers some interesting insight into a
typical day on tour.
Rat Patrol-- I only moderately like this song. I have no idea what it's
about, but I'll make a vague conjecture that it's about a guy who lives in
a rural area, chases off intruders, and is going insane.
That's all I can think of, but I'm sure there's something else...
O yes. I remember it now. All these songs except for They Got Lost and
Older were written by Flansburgh. If they'd all been included on FS, the
Flansburgh/Linnell ratio would not have been nearly so lopsided.
(interestingly enough, Linnell's two songs are the lyrically simplest of
the bunch, in a direct reversal of our usual generalizations about their
writing styles.)
--nicole the wonder nerd
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"If it wasn't for disappointments, I wouldn't have any appointments." -They
Might Be Giants
Visit Nicolopolis! http://wwwcsif.cs.ucdavis.edu/~carlsonn
nmcarlson@ucdavis.edu carlsonn@cs.ucdavis.edu ana.ng@tmbg.org
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Message-Id: <199704030529.OAA06641@mita1.cc.mita.keio.ac.jp>
Subject: TMBG: TMBG in Japan
Date: Thu, 03 Apr 1997 14:29:54 +0900
From: NAOYUKI ISOGAI <b9400863@cc.mita.keio.ac.jp>
Hello There!
"They" played in Tokyo on 1st and 2nd April, and I went to both shows.
I don't remember correctly what songs "they" played on the first day,
however the setlist for the second day is unforgotten because I got
a setlist sheet which "they" had actually used after the show. The
sheet describes how the show went on...
NYC ; Rhythm ; Pet Name ; Particle Man ; The Guitar -> SEXXY ; Polk ;
Bird ; "Long Strong Latin" ; No One ; Twist ; Shoe ; METAL ; Sing ;
Purple ; Ensor ; Replacemnts ; Older/Sleepin' ; Til ; Spy ; Istanbul ;
I Can Hear ; Where/Dig
"MILK", where "they" played on the second day, was such a small club
that "they" were playing exactly in front of me. John F let a few
people in the audience including me play his guitar, and I got a gut
that he cut on the stage. I was absolutely exited during the show.
And what was more exiting, I succeeded in meeting and talking with
"them" directly after the show on the first day.
At first, I was waiting for "them" to appear at the back entrace, and
when John L appeared, I talked to him:
Mr. Me : "Excuse me, but..."
Mr. Linell : "Sorry, but I've gotta go now."
Then, Graham and Dan appeared. Of course I said HI to them and shook
hands with them.
I kept on waiting for John F, but he didn't appear. After a while,
I made up my mind to give up and to go home. However, when I was
passing by a certain place near "QUATTORO", where "they" played on
the first day, I saw all of "them" gathering. There was not a soul
but "them" and a few staff members there. I opened the door and
talked to "them". I asked all of "them" to sign on the back of the
case (correctly speaking, on the sheet under the case) of the CD set
_THEN_. It seemed that "they" had never seen _THEN_ itself before
I showed it to "them", and we discussed the design of the jacket.
John F told me that the back of the booklet should be illustrating
the battle between England and Spain. I told him that a Japanese
letter called "ka" appeared on the jacket and the face of the booklet.
Everybody there seemed to be interested in "ka", and actually, John L
wrote "ka" beside his sign.
Also, I had wrote a lyric to be called "Japanese #3" (i.e.: a Japanese
version of the song "Number Three") before the show, and asked John F
to sing it on the following day. However, he answered that it was too
difficult.
After all, I spent about thirteen minutes there, and I found "they"
were all awfully kind and really friendly. If I had been much better
at speaking English, I could have talked about a lot more things with
"them". However, I'm completely happy to have talked with "them"...
Cheers!
|
P.S.: This is "ka". ---> -+-+ |
| |
P:S.: A fuckin' ass-hole dove onto the stage when "they" were playing
"Dig My Grave" on the second day. John F got mad at him and
left the stage in the middle of the song. This is why I could
not talk with "them" on the second day.
---- NaoyuKing, the faculty "I am a snake head
of Economics, KEIO Univ. eating the head
on the opposite side..."
E-mail:b9400863@mita.cc.keio.ac.jp
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Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19970403010741.006c7918@mail.ee.net>
Date: Thu, 03 Apr 1997 01:07:41 -0500
From: Evan Chakroff <chakroff@ee.net>
Subject: TMBG: FS Sessions
would someone be so kind as to make me a copy, and maybe also send it to
me, in say, a trade, or perhaps a blank tape? Hmm? anyone?
-ec, the late-nite downloader....
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