Errors-To: owner-tmbg-digest@tmbg.org Reply-To: tmbg-digest@tmbg.org Sender: owner-tmbg-digest@tmbg.org Precedence: bulk From: owner-tmbg-digest@tmbg.org To: tmbg-digest@tmbg.org Subject: tmbg-list Digest #12-24 tmbg-list Digest, Volume 12, Number 24 Wednesday, 25 November 1998 Today's Topics: TMBG: NONTMBG but IMPORTANT if you get spam & "unbelievable" stories TMBG: Answer me these questions...four Re: TMBG: Answer me these questions...four Re: Non TMBG: Negativland Semi-TMBG: mp3s Re: Non TMBG: Negativland TMBG: Re: The truth about Linnell (incredibly pointless but on-topic) Re: TMBG: The truth about Linnell (incredibly pointless but on TMBG: their next album Re: TMBG: Mp3s Delurked (Was: TMBG: Mp3s) TMBG: Re: tmbg-list Digest #12-23 TMBG: Re: tmbg-list Digest #12-23 Re: TMBG: Re: tmbg-list Digest #12-23 Non TMBG: Negativland/Ween Re: TMBG: The truth about Linnell (incredibly pointless but on-topic) Re: TMBG: Answer me these questions...four Re: Non TMBG: Negativland Re: NON-TMBG: HHGTTG question TMBG: weird dream...linnell being small Re: TMBG: weird dream...linnell being small TMBG: title in title, and other stuff Administrivia: If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing send mail to tmbg-digest-request@tmbg.org for instructions on how to be automatically removed. --------------------------------------------------------------------- The views expressed herein are those of the individual authors. --------------------------------------------------------------------- tmbg-list is digested with Digest 3.5b (John Relph ). ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message-ID: <005501be17b0$2215f5a0$a3431ecf@default> From: "Green Jello" Subject: TMBG: NONTMBG but IMPORTANT if you get spam & "unbelievable" stories Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1998 08:41:22 -0500 I don't know about you guys, but everytime I meet a newbie... I get email from them about some Urban Legend or another. Whether it's the warning to be careful not to sit on needles in theatres or to beware of the "Tuttle Mall" in Columbus b/c a mad killer is always set to strike there. This doesn't have anything to do with TMBG, but as a list we sometimes get these "warnings" and helpful hints. 95% of these things are bogus and we all know it, we just can't prove it. This site: http://www.snopes.com/ helps out a lot. In the last week I've gotten the email about the kidney snatchers 4 times!! So it must be making the rounds again. Smack these people with this site. Sorry for the lack of content, but it's a preventative strike... there was a time when this list got it's fair share of horrific warnings. Brother John Green Jello ------------------------------ From: Batbrain99@aol.com Message-ID: <3cd92907.365ac611@aol.com> Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1998 09:43:29 EST Subject: TMBG: Answer me these questions...four I just recieved my first TMBG catalog from the info club last night, and i have a few questions. 1. I gave my address a long time ago, and i only now get something, and with short notice till christmas. Is this common? 2. On the back near the address, it says "Address correction requested" Do they all say this? 3. I have yet to have recieved tour dates or newsletters. When do they start coming around? 4. How do i go about requesting lyrics to albums? Thank you for your time and patience ~Batbrain ------------------------------ Message-ID: <365AC9D9.D39D4426@rosevc.rose-hulman.edu> Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1998 09:59:37 -0500 From: Chad Maloney Subject: Re: TMBG: Answer me these questions...four Batbrain99@aol.com wrote: > > I just recieved my first TMBG catalog from the info club last night, and i > have a few questions. > > 1. I gave my address a long time ago, and i only now get something, and with > short notice till christmas. Is this common? The Info Club is notoriously slow for many many people. > 2. On the back near the address, it says "Address correction requested" Do > they all say this? I think that's a standard mailing stamp for mail. I think it just means that if you move, you should tell them about it. I could be wrong though, but I do ignore it when I see it on something. I think my Visa Bill always has that stamped on it, so I hope it isn't too bad. > 3. I have yet to have recieved tour dates or newsletters. When do they start > coming around? I find the mailing list and pollstar.com the best place to find out about tour dates. > 4. How do i go about requesting lyrics to albums? Lyrics are available on www.tmbg.org. - Chad ------------------------------ From: KdsInThHal@aol.com Message-ID: <993740d3.365ad300@aol.com> Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1998 10:38:40 EST Subject: Re: Non TMBG: Negativland In a message dated 11/23/98 8:47:40 PM, OHLERT@accuwx.com writes: >btw...you don't actually have a copy of the original "U2" single? I've >been >trying to get a dub of that.... I [tying threads together] downloaded an mp3 of that, hilarious! naught casey kasem. sarah ------------------------------ Message-ID: <19981124171808.21495.qmail@hotmail.com> From: "Scott Reed" Subject: Semi-TMBG: mp3s Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1998 11:18:08 CST I am in agreement to the argument that mp3s help artists. Personally, I have some mp3s of artits on my computer that I don't have the albums for, but after listening to the mp3s I am encouraged to buy the albums. For example, I have never heard Nurse With Wound, but after seeing that they've worked with Stereolab, I found a site that had some of their stuff on mp3, downloaded it, and found it agreeable, so now I will put Nurse With Wound on my list of bands to buy albums from in the near future. As for the TMBG mp3s, I'd say that is a pretty cheap-ass fan that would download the songs and not buy the albums. Bjorky (who incidentally is broke and hates the radio, and mp3s are the ONLY source of new music) ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1998 13:05:44 -0600 (CST) From: cyberspace buddha Subject: Re: Non TMBG: Negativland Message-ID: On Tue, 24 Nov 1998 owner-tmbg-digest@tmbg.org wrote: On Tue, 24 Nov 1998 jolley wrote: > Subject: Re: Non TMBG: Negativland > Organization: AccuWeather, Inc > > >1) In the first track of Negativland's "Escape from noise, where is the > >background music from (it's great)? > > I believe that music with the first track was taken from a radio/tv > music collection. They are like musical clip art. They are produced and > can be bought by radio/tv/whoever wants stock music instead of having to > go thru the trouble of making their own. It could also be something they > put together from a variety of sources, however I think it the first, > with some effects added. Jolley may well be right, on either guess. It's difficult to know for sur eon so much of their stuff unless you ask them directly. > >2) Is there anywhere I could possibly find this music in midi form on the > >web? > Probably not, unless you make it yourself... Likely. You might want to subscribe to the negativland mailing list at http://www.negativland.com/touch.html. The list I"m already on is the snuggles list at the bottom of the page. dunno about the others yet. > btw...you don't actually have a copy of the original "U2" single? I've been > trying to get a dub of that.... I do indeed have a copy of the original CD, but you dont' need me to get a dub, just visit http://www.negativland.com/audio.html cheers, cb Cyberspace Buddha /(0\ What's on, your mind? mailto:cb@silverchat.com \1)/ http://silverchat.com/~cb Not your fathers buddha. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1998 13:21:32 -0600 From: "Jay G." Message-ID: <73f07i$fmt$1@ussenterprise.ufp.org> Organization: They Might Be Giants, Unofficially http://www.tmbg.org Subject: TMBG: Re: The truth about Linnell (incredibly pointless but on-topic) >I had noticed that day when I saw Linnell walk by, one of my first thoughts was >that he was shorter than I thought he would be. But I dismissed it and didn't >really think about it again until I received my catalog the other day. As those >of you who have the catalog know, the cover features a still from the Dr. Worm >video in which the Johns are standing right next to each other. Just a quick >look tells the viewer that Flans is a good half-head taller than Linnell, or at >least 2-3 inches. 5'10", John? Maybe in platform shoes with your hair poofed >out. ;) > Actually, the fold-out poster in the last newsletter is the two Johns standing next to each other, and there is very little height difference at all. And since Its shows their whole body, I can see that Linnel isn't standing on a soapbox or anything. I don't have the new catalog with me (left it at home so family could buy me stuff for x-mas from it), but I think the cover picture is one of them *sitting down*. Maybe Linnell just has longer lags/shorter torso and appears shorter when both are sitting? ------------------------------ From: CPatubo@mindscape.com Message-ID: <882566C6.006D3738.00@nvtomta.mindscape.com> Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1998 11:53:17 -0800 Subject: Re: TMBG: The truth about Linnell (incredibly pointless but on >>Damn-yeah, in the DLS vidio he looked insanely thin (almost a skeleton 8 >>^ 0 ) in that tight outfit, or maybe it was some crazy camera work. >>Hmeheh, people say the camera seems to add weight, not true in this case. >>3P >The really scary thing would be if the camera *did* add weight. :) Whoa... Linnell vs. Ally McBeal... -c ------------------------------ From: Gweeg@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1998 15:56:19 EST Subject: TMBG: their next album I heard that they were going to record a new album and maybe about this time next year record a childrens album. So their next album is going to be a normal TMBG album. Does anyone know where i can find the Factory showroom sessions on MP3 or for REal Audio? i"d love to hear em ------------------------------ Message-ID: <19981124212929.10930.qmail@hotmail.com> From: "Todd Wetherbee" Subject: Re: TMBG: Mp3s Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1998 13:29:29 PST >yay! we delurked someone! :) Something like that. I've not been subscribed to the list for most of that time - like 3yrs 9mos. I used to post quite a bit back in the day... but I don't think anyone is around from that era. Anybody out there been around since '94 or '95? Farside ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ From: CPatubo@mindscape.com Message-ID: <882566C6.007731EA.00@nvtomta.mindscape.com> Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1998 13:42:14 -0800 Subject: Delurked (Was: TMBG: Mp3s) >>yay! we delurked someone! :) > >Something like that. I've not been subscribed to the list for most of >that time - like 3yrs 9mos. I used to post quite a bit back in the >day... but I don't think anyone is around from that era. Anybody out >there been around since '94 or '95? > >Farside I was around then (late '94) -- I was actually off the list for 9 or so months last year because I had too much mail to deal with. Now I have an e-mail program with filters. :) -courtney ------------------------------ Message-ID: <19981124214809.18936.qmail@hotmail.com> From: "John Landis" Subject: TMBG: Re: tmbg-list Digest #12-23 Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1998 13:48:08 PST Okay, here's a question which has probably already been asked and answered long ago. But, being somewhat new to the list, I most likely missed it. Okay, there seems to be a repeating theme invonving scarecrowes. The first incidence is in "Where Your Eyes Don't Go." I believe the line is somthing like "A scarecrow lurks behind you and waves his broobstick arms and does a parody of each unconcious thing you do." Than again in one of the stranger tracks on Then, "The performers are not grinning scarecrows trying to torture and manipulate you." I think there are other scarecrow refrences, but they have escaped me at the moment. ("That's all I can think of, but I'm sure there's something else") Does this have any significance to John(s)? Other things mentioned in more that one song: The Big Whroedom The world's adress Can anyone think of any others? John "the other John" Landis ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1998 18:07:48 -0500 Subject: TMBG: Re: tmbg-list Digest #12-23 Message-ID: <19981124.180749.13702.1.Superman75@juno.com> From: superman75@juno.com (Adam Schaaf) hi. >I think there are >other scarecrow refrences, but they have escaped me at >the moment. Does this have any significance to John(s)? maybe linnell saw the wizard of oz too many times as a kid. there's also the constant subliminal/backwards talking stuff. recurring themes are apparent, but i don't think there's any real significance behind them. your underking of pop trivia, adam schaaf * ------------------------------------------ Philly Tour Dates Liz Phair - Dec. 3 The Boucing Souls - Dec. 12 * ------------------------------------------ ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1998 17:17:00 -0600 (CST) From: rogers@AC.GRIN.EDU Subject: Re: TMBG: Re: tmbg-list Digest #12-23 Message-id: And don't forget references to Night of the Hunter: -the "Pearlie" t-shirt -Robert Mitchum == triangle man -Pretty Fly(ok, so its Mono Puff, but you get the idea) --Jamal On Tue, 24 Nov 1998, Adam Schaaf wrote: > maybe linnell saw the wizard of oz too many times as a kid. > there's also the constant subliminal/backwards talking stuff. > recurring themes are apparent, but i don't think there's any > real significance behind them. > > your underking of pop trivia, > adam schaaf ------------------------------ Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19981124181921.006884d8@goshen.edu> Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1998 18:19:21 -0500 From: "Amanda Heggen" Subject: Non TMBG: Negativland/Ween >I'm proposing this question to the list cause I know there are a few >Negativland fans out there... It's so exciting to see that there are more Negativland people on this list. Speaking of Negativland, I was introduced to them by someone who thought I might like them because I'm really into Ween. Since Negativland and Ween are pretty unrelated, it was just random luck that I do like both of them. Now, a little Ween talk for any of you Weenies on the list ~ Go out an buy the South Park album that was released today. There's a great new Ween song on there, 'The Rainbow' (actually, 'The Homo Rainbow', it's very sweet). I bought it for the Ween, but there's lots of other good stuff on there. My other favorites at the moment (I haven't listened to the whole thing yet) are Cartman's 'Come Sail Away' (it's just incredible) and the Chef/Meat Loaf duet, 'Tonight Is Right For Love (with Meredith Baxter-Birney)'. Good stuff. Amanda H. Heggen ---------------------------- 'People should get beat up for stating their beliefs' -They Might Be Giants * ------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ From: Igraine81@aol.com Message-ID: <6582a08f.365b4045@aol.com> Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1998 18:24:53 EST Subject: Re: TMBG: The truth about Linnell (incredibly pointless but on-topic) HI EVERYBODY!!! (Hi Dr. Nick) << >Damn-yeah, in the DLS vidio he looked insanely thin (almost a skeleton 8 >^ 0 ) in that tight outfit, or maybe it was some crazy camera work. >Hmeheh, people say the camera seems to add weight, not true in this case. >3P The really scary thing would be if the camera *did* add weight. :) >> Oh my god!!!!! What if he's anorexic? We need to bond together and support him!!! (J/K, not a smart-ass remark). Tight outfit? hmmmmmmmmmmmm.......Now I need to get that video compilation. Lisa, Not cool enough to have her own quote ------------------------------ From: gray42@juno.com Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1998 20:44:41 -0500 Subject: Re: TMBG: Answer me these questions...four Message-ID: <19981124.205624.10374.4.gray42@juno.com> >2. On the back near the address, it says "Address correction >requested" Do >they all say this? Phew... I thought I was the only one who got this message, I'm so glad to find the truth. It must be a request if you move. No telling when that may happen. Mysterio Gal (is Harley Quinn) "It's like being the world's tallest midget." --Flansburgh MST3K#88182 gray42@juno.com, send attachments to mr_realgal@yahoo.com http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Coffeehouse/4871 The Official Project Omicrom website: www.geocities.com/SoHo/Square/9007 ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ From: gray42@juno.com Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1998 20:34:04 -0500 Subject: Re: Non TMBG: Negativland Message-ID: <19981124.205623.10374.2.gray42@juno.com> Ok, now that I know it's rather difficult to get the particular midi I'm looking for, would any Negativland fans be willing to make one. I can't, even if I had the capabilities, I wouldn't know where or how... and, I can't play the keyboard. Mysterio Gal (who hopes she isn't asking too much) "It's like being the world's tallest midget." --Flansburgh MST3K#88182 gray42@juno.com, send attachments to mr_realgal@yahoo.com http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Coffeehouse/4871 The Official Project Omicrom website: www.geocities.com/SoHo/Square/9007 ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1998 21:11:09 -0600 From: "Jay G." Message-ID: <73frns$g2j$1@ussenterprise.ufp.org> Organization: They Might Be Giants, Unofficially http://www.tmbg.org Subject: Re: NON-TMBG: HHGTTG question Josh Buckland wrote in message <19981122231124.16211.qmail@hotmail.com>... >>Shouldn't Trilian's brain also contain the question to life the >universe >>and everything? Why didn't they ask her? Why did the mice only want >>Arthur's brain? >> > >This could be for many reasons, but I'll list two of them. > >A) She was blond, and she was a woman. A blond chick. I assume this remark was an attempt at humor. That said, I never liked the choice of actress they made in the mini-series. I always imagined Trillian to be smart, sensible and dark-haired. Of course, I don't remember what her hair color is described as in the books. >B) The question must only be imprinted onto the minds of the oblivious >(More room, you see...). And Arther was the only human rescued, >therefore he was the only person in the story (that survived) who was >COMPLETELY oblivious to this adventure. Everyone knew what to do, and >when, but Arther. I seem to remember that Nobody really knew what to do, but that Arthur was the only one who didn't prentend to know at all. Actually, it states that everything within the system (the Earth) contained the answer processing in it's head. since Trillian left before Arthur, she was farther away from the actual answer. The point became moot anyways in the second book when we find out that the human race is decended from aliens, therfore disrupting the system and muddling up the answer. >For further query, just write the goddamned author! > I'm sure DNA has heard this question asked many times by now, and probably is tired of it. -Jay "I appear to be at the bottom of a deap, dark hole. Now what does that remind me of? Ahhh, now I remember: Life." - Marvin the Paranoid Android ------------------------------ Subject: TMBG: weird dream...linnell being small Message-ID: <19981124.221313.4743.3.sailormorningstar@juno.com> From: sailormorningstar@juno.com (Celeste A Majetic) Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1998 22:15:53 EST >Mysterio Gal (mmmm... skinny Linnell) >Ohhhhh, yeahhhh. >An admitted sucker for slight men, Since you're admitting it....I'll admit it to....hehehe... You see...i have a...ah hem ::caugh::...hehe....crush on John Linnell.....he's cute. OH NO!!!! I can't believe I just said that! But...Doesn't anyone agree??????? I wanna' know if Im the only weird one..... I had another wacko TMBG dream last night....the dream was a lot like the movie The Wedding Singer...Anyhow....to the dream. I dreamt that I was on an airplane and I was eating cheesecake, then all of a sudden Flans came running out of first Class and ran right to one of the airplane ladies....(what are they called....i cant remember!!!! ::Karen is stupid::) Oh yeah! They're called Flight Attendants. ::Im dumb:: Anyway, then Flans and the woman started talking....(this is where the dream gets kinda blurry)...then I got up, did something, then sat down again. Later, I heard a voice over the flight intercom and it was Linnell singing "She's An Angel".....when he finished singing he jumped off the plane and floated away into the PURPLE sky??????????....Weird huh? -Karen aka Celeste :P "I don't want the world, I just want your half." -Ana Ng (the song not the person!) "Living Is Easy With Eyes Closed, Mis-Understanding All You See." -John Lennon....another fab John L! ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ From: redips76@airmail.net Message-ID: <000401be182d$8122f7a0$042e88cf@danielle> Subject: Re: TMBG: weird dream...linnell being small Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1998 22:38:48 -0600 From: Celeste A Majetic >Since you're admitting it....I'll admit it to....hehehe... Well, you saw in earlier letters where Mysterio Gal and I copped to it. >You see...i have a...ah hem ::caugh::...hehe....crush on John >Linnell.....he's cute. >OH NO!!!! I can't believe I just said that! But...Doesn't anyone Why not? It's certainly a free country. :) >agree??????? I wanna' know if Im the only weird one..... Like I said, you have Mysterio Gal and me in your corner. And several females on this list have talked about how adorable they think he is, so you're far from alone, dear. Hey, I was in the chat room at tmbg.com once and heard fans of *both* sexes talking about how attractive Linnell is. Apparently he has a pretty solid following. That's interesting because in the dream I mentioned having the other night, my friends and I were flight attendants. Flans and his wife were sort of like our chaperones. Oh, well. Wondering if it's time to repost "John Linnell: Accordion Player and Arthouse Sex God", Inspector Over the Mine ------------------------------ From: wagner@mindspring.com Message-ID: <004901be1836$acd826a0$bb6356d1@computer> Subject: TMBG: title in title, and other stuff Date: Wed, 25 Nov 1998 00:44:29 -0500 hello everyone... i don't know if anyone else has noticed this, but i think that this is really cool: in the song title "She's An Angel," there is another tmbg title, Ana Ng -- "She's An aNgel". i thought that was really cool and really worth mentioning... on a non-tmbg topic (and yes, this is the same person who started that big thread last week, sorry about that ;) ), here's a webpage for anyone interested in the apocolypse: http://members.aol.com/firetruth/FourHorsemen.htm this page discusses someone's theory on who the four horsemen of the apocolypse are, backed up by a lot of convincing evidence. it's actually scary how accurate this could be when you read it and really look at it... and here is some very interesting bible trivia concerning shakespeare that many of you may find interesting even if you're not a religious person!!!! the king james version of the bible was translated in 1610, published in 1611. one of the world's most famous and revered writers -- william shakespeare -- was alive and kickin' in that year. in fact, he was 46 years old. shakespeare helped translate the bible into english. well, shakespeare wasn't only known for his writing abillity -- his large ego was also well-known. you don't have to read psalm 46 (which is printed below), it's just there so you don't have to go and dig up a king james version of the bible. all you have to do is to do the instructions below it. "God is our refuge and strength, A very present help in trouble. Therefore we will not fear, Even though the earth be removed, And though the mountains be carried into the midst of the sea; Though its waters roar and be troubled, Though the mountains shake with its swelling. There is a river whose streams shall make glad the city of God...Come, behold the works of the Lord, Who had made desolations in the earth. He makes wars cease to end of the earth; He breaks the bow and cuts the spear in two: He burns the chariots in the fire. Be still, and know that I am God; I will be exalted among the nations, I will be exalted in the earth! The Lord of hosts is with us; The God of Jacob is our refuge." okay, now here's what you have to do: 1)from the beginning, count 46 words into the psalm. 2)from the end, count backwards 46 words into the psalm. pretty cool, huh? a 46-year old wm shakespeare putting his own name into the bible (in the 46th psalm), the first half of his name 46 words in and the second half 46 words before the end. what a guy. okay, hope you enjoyed that. david wagner (wagner@mindspring.com) [Attachment omitted, unknown MIME type or encoding (text/html)] ------------------------------ End of tmbg-list Digest #12-24 ******************************