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          tmbg-list Digest, Volume 13, Number 10

                Thursday, 10 December 1998

Today's Topics:

                   Re: TMBG: Mrs. Train
                  TMBG: Augiewan's site
       TMBG: Re: yet another pointless song interp
                 TMBG: M2/Childrens Album
                  Re: TMBG: Mike Leffel
               Re: TMBG: M2/Childrens Album
                   Re: TMBG: Mrs. Train
                    Re: TMBG: bullsh*t
             Non-TMBG: Okay, okay, listen up.
                  Re: TMBG: Mike Leffel
                   TMBG: TMBG and Math
                   TMBG: TMBG and Math
                  Re: TMBG: Mike Leffel
           TMBG: tmbg-list Digest #13-9 -Reply
                    TMBG: Campus bands
                 TMBG: Re:Christmas tape
                TMBG: who is Mike Leffel?
          Re: TMBG: Dr. Worm Single????? -Reply
               Re: TMBG: M2/Childrens Album
         TMBG: Anyone out there still like Flood?
       Re: TMBG: Anyone out there still like Flood?
           Re: Non-TMBG: Okay, okay, listen up.
       Re: TMBG: Anyone out there still like Flood?
           non TMBG: "wisdom" from josh's page
       Re: TMBG: Anyone out there still like Flood?
                 TMBG: M2/Childrens Album
         Re: non TMBG: "wisdom" from josh's page
            TMBG: TMBG : May I wish you all...
                  Re: TMBG: Campus bands
                    Re: TMBG: Used CDs
       Re: TMBG: Anyone out there still like Flood?
                TMBG: DC Show on the 30th.
       Re: TMBG: Anyone out there still like Flood?
       Re: TMBG: Anyone out there still like Flood?
              Re: TMBG: DC Show on the 30th.
       Re: TMBG: Anyone out there still like Flood?
              Re: TMBG: DC Show on the 30th.
       Re: TMBG: Anyone out there still like Flood?
       Re: TMBG: Anyone out there still like Flood?
                  Re: NonTMBG: Dr. Drew
           Re: Non-TMBG: Okay, okay, listen up.
       RE: TMBG: Anyone out there still like Flood?
     Re: TMBG: Re: yet another pointless song interp
                     TMBG: STD review
       Re: TMBG: Anyone out there still like Flood?
                   Re: TMBG: Mrs. Train
                      TMBG: Floodies
                   Re: TMBG: Mrs. Train
                   Re: TMBG:Fav. Album

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Date: Tue, 8 Dec 1998 21:17:17 -0500
Subject: Re: TMBG: Mrs. Train
Message-ID: <19981208.212609.-134347.2.gray42@juno.com>
From: gray42@juno.com (Claire V Gray)

EEEEEEEGGGGGGGrRRRRRRREEEEEEAAAAAAH  Ok, I know that was a bit loud, but
I'm feeling a bit loud (NOT angry :) *hyuk*.  You just had the idea (and
your free to them :) to replace my 2 favorite songs on John Henry, with
my 2 favorite b-sides.  I absolutely deeply cherish "A Self Called
Nowhere", "Window" delights my haggard unhappy heart.  I live by the code
of "Hotel Detective", it's even great backwards.  And I'm brought back to
childhood by Mrs. Train.  If Hotel Detective were to replace something on
JH, I'd have to go with Spy.  I'm sure John and John meant not to have
too many 40's type Secret Agent Songs on their album.  Or Mrs. Train
could replace Extra Savoir Fare, because I like Mrs. Train SO much better
(sorry guys/gals who like this song, and Spy.)  But you can't get rid of
"A Self Called Nowhere", and "Window".  At least you can't in my private
world :)  But I totally agree those 2 b sides would be better on a (easy
to get) full length album.  On the other hand, John and John probably
felt that Mrs. Train's lightness would clash with such a dark album, who
knows?

Mysterio Gal (completely out to lunch in squaresville)
"It's like being the world's tallest midget."
--Flansburgh
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On Tue, 08 Dec 1998 19:27:56 EST Misty <K4ZK@MARISTB.MARIST.EDU> writes:
>I was listening to an MP3 of Mrs. Train earlier, and I just thought
>I'd
>throw this question out there: Do you think Mrs. Train should have
>been
>included on John Henry, and not just as a b-side? I think it should
>have
>and that it maybe should have replaced Window in the rotation. "Back
>to
>Skull"'s other great b-side, the alternate Hotel Detective, also,
>IMO,
>should have been placed on John Henry in place of Self Called
>Nowhere.
>I don't like Self Called Nowhere all that much. Anyone else feel this
>way?
>
>Misty
>

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From: PRMega@aol.com
Message-ID: <cc66f98f.366ddf58@aol.com>
Date: Tue, 8 Dec 1998 21:24:24 EST
Subject: TMBG: Augiewan's site

Does anyone else get a message that says "attempt to load failed" when d/l ing
songs from Augiwan's page? I get this from all of the songs.

PR Mega

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Date: Tue, 08 Dec 1998 20:47:02 -0600
From: Thomas Kula <tk0003@drake.edu>
Subject: TMBG: Re: yet another pointless song interp
Message-id: <v04003a01b2939464a0ff@[207.28.201.227]>

At 19:03 -0600 12/8/98, Me wrote:
>So I was listening to Apollo 18 on the way to work today, and "See the
>Constellation" came on...
<snip>

Actually, if I may add my $0.02: I never thought of the song in that way,
but I do like the song because to me it is all about Radio Astronomy (one
of my favorite areas of science). "Can you hear what I see in the sky?"
seems to me to be a nice reference to the job of "listening" to the sky
with a radio telescope. As a matter of fact, I once did a physics seminar
entitled "Can you hear what I see in the sky: A brief introduction to Radio
Astronomy."

Or it could just be a stoned guy....

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From: WeepDay@aol.com
Message-ID: <5bdd90b4.366ddebf@aol.com>
Date: Tue, 8 Dec 1998 21:21:51 EST
Subject: TMBG: M2/Childrens Album

Hello All,

I haven't had my account for awhile and haven't been able to keep up with all
the latest news....However, today they played "Birdhouse In Your Soul" on M2
(for a second I thought they'd actually play Dr. Worm....) anyways, that VJ
Jancee Dunn talked about them after the video and said that they were going on
tour to Australia to "cash in" because they are very popular there and that
the Childrens Album was going to be titled "No"....is this true? old news?
just wondering.......

later,
athena~

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From: tmbgirl@juno.com
Date: Tue, 8 Dec 1998 21:17:09 -0700
Subject: Re: TMBG: Mike Leffel
Message-ID: <19981208.211818.15134.0.TMBgirl@juno.com>

>i'll go ahead and ask the question -- who is mike leffel and why is he
>such
>a cool guy?

oh geez... the legacy of leffel described in one e-mail?

hey dylan flipse!!!  you wanna field this one?  (hahaa! my evil ploy to
bring him out of lurkerdom and bring the "fun with sigs leffel style"
back to the list).

      no but seriously folks, if you want to get the true essence of mike
leffel and just what an impact he had on the list you'd have to read
quite a few digests where he contributed.  It shouldn't be too hard to
search the archives...  look through late '96 into mid '97, he pretty
much filled up every days digest with his own "non-relevant crap" every
day.   Someone with a stick up their ass once did the math and found that
he was responsible for like 70-some-odd % of the posts to each digest,
most of which were not related to TMBG (unless you could see through
mikes twisted set of links).  Needless to say, that's why his name arises
every time there's a thread started by some newbie "don't let people post
non-tmbg related stuff to the list."
      There were a few people that didn't like him (hahaarob!) and those
of us that did like him, often got in major conflicts with list members
that were yelling at him to shutup (hahaarob!).  Mike was really cool
tho... if you were his bud.  Heh, one time someone flamed me and i got
reeeally upset about it (to the point where i was gonna leave the list)
hehee... he offered to spam their account in a rather obscene way for me,
i told him not to, but it was enough to keep me on the list cuz i was so
entertained by him and all the other list members that offered to join us
even tho they didn't know the details of mike's plan.  And well, that is
mike in a nutshell, entertainment.   Anyways... i'm getting too much into
my own personal stories.

       If anyone wants to fill in the actual story of mike and how he
just disappeared one day only to return several months later and inform
us of how he was majorly sick (sorry i can't member the details...) only
to disappear again a few weeks later and never return...

take it easy, JOrdaN "where's the last name?"
http://www2.netcom.com/~arnot/joda/bootlegs.html
:::I will never say "you blow the fatty goat" again without thinking of
mike and his legacy... and then thinking of rob... which is why i'll have
difficulty buying an omlt now:::

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From: tmbgirl@juno.com
Date: Tue, 8 Dec 1998 21:21:26 -0700
Subject: Re: TMBG: M2/Childrens Album
Message-ID: <19981208.212128.15134.2.TMBgirl@juno.com>

they were
>going on
>tour to Australia to "cash in" because they are very popular there and
>that
>the Childrens Album was going to be titled "No"....is this true? old
>news?

tenatively titled "no" but yes, that's all true.

i had some TMBG content and now i forgot what it was... something about
them and This American Life next week... erg!

take it easy, JOrdaN
http://www2.netcom.com/~arnot/joda/bootlegs.html
:::Catching up to leffel's record of 70%:::

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Message-ID: <YqPTv7G00WB=0Ph0g0@andrew.cmu.edu>
Date: Tue,  8 Dec 1998 23:38:31 -0500 (EST)
From: Lawrence P Solomon <lps+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: TMBG: Mrs. Train

Excerpts from internet.music.tmbg: 8-Dec-98 TMBG: Mrs. Train by
Misty@MARISTB.MARIST.EDU
> I was listening to an MP3 of Mrs. Train earlier, and I just thought I'd
> throw this question out there: Do you think Mrs. Train should have been
> included on John Henry, and not just as a b-side? I think it should have
> and that it maybe should have replaced Window in the rotation. "Back to
> Skull"'s other great b-side, the alternate Hotel Detective, also, IMO,
> should have been placed on John Henry in place of Self Called Nowhere.
> I don't like Self Called Nowhere all that much. Anyone else feel this

I don't think Mrs. Train would make a very good album track... it's kind
of a novelty song... it's kind of silly, has that speed up thing going
on...

or, if you don't like that argument... where do you put it on an album?
Generally speaking, an album has a fairly contiguous feel to it - the
songs don't necessarily have to flow, but there should be some sense of
continuity.  The way Mrs. Train starts out could make it nothing but a
starting track, maybe... the nice thing about EPs is that it doesn't
really matter where things appear...

the thing I find interesting aboutu b-sides is that they often are
things that were done out of TMBG's style at the time... Nightgown of
the Sullen Moon would not fit on Lincoln, but it would work great on
Flood, for example... same for We're the Replacements.  some of them
are, though, just that - b-sides, and could never be album tracks.  I'd
have a hard time putting When it Rains it Snows or I'll Sink Manhattan
on any album...
(this was actually more true of their older b-sides... not so much anymore)

for those reasons, too, I predict that "4 of 2" will never be anything
more than a b-side... (unfortunately)

as far as A Self Called Nowhere and Window... well, I like those
songs... and I think Window leads into Out of Jail perfectly...

just my... uhh, 4 or 5 cents or so...

Lawrence Solomon  http://www.contrib.andrew.cmu.edu/~lps/  lps@andrew.cmu.edu
"You keep handing out horseshoes                  *  This space inadvertently
 Horseshoes have gotta be tossed."  -Moxy Fruvous *   left with stuff in it.

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Message-ID: <8qPTx1e00WB=0Ph200@andrew.cmu.edu>
Date: Tue,  8 Dec 1998 23:40:33 -0500 (EST)
From: Lawrence P Solomon <lps+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: TMBG: bullsh*t

Excerpts from internet.music.tmbg: 8-Dec-98 Re: TMBG: bullsh*t by
tmbgirl@juno.com
> just makes me wonder if all of us would still like TMBG if they hit it
> big again.

well, it depends... if they made a great song that became popular, no
problem... if they made something that was totally not their style or
any style they had ever come close to, and it became popular, we'd have
another situation like in 1990 - people would like one song but be
turned off by the other stuff.  I would have been really disappointed if
S-E-X-X-Y had become popular, because it is *soooo* not their style.

Of course, I also thought Dr. Worm had potential... <sigh>

Lawrence Solomon  http://www.contrib.andrew.cmu.edu/~lps/  lps@andrew.cmu.edu
"You keep handing out horseshoes                  *  This space inadvertently
 Horseshoes have gotta be tossed."  -Moxy Fruvous *   left with stuff in it.

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Message-ID: <19981209044306.28548.qmail@hotmail.com>
From: "Josh Buckland" <dilbert_2000@hotmail.com>
Subject: Non-TMBG: Okay, okay, listen up.
Date: Tue, 08 Dec 1998 20:43:05 PST

Alright. I've thought about it and I'm willing to make a deal I think
most of you will jump at. But first:

   If you don't like my site (and you probably don't), what do you do?
Complain about it, bash it, make fun of me... sure. What don't you do?
Go back, of course. Rev. Andrew has displayed hate for me and my site.
He's done evrything listed above. Except the part of not returning to my
site. This guy hates my site, though he is constantly hanging around my
site. How do i know? BEHOLD! MY GUESTBOOK! FEAST YOUR EYES UPON THE
NUMBER OF TIMES HE HAS SIGNED IT!
http://callisto.guestworld.tripod.lycos.com/wgb/wgbview.dbm?owner=Zapruter
        Now, to the point:
     I was gonna make a deal, wasn't I. Well, here it is. I hereby
promise to keep a sharp eye on all that I post. I will watch for
content, language, bad moral (but we're all guilty of that at one time
or another), and usefulness. If I break any of these horribly (don't go
saying I sould be kicked for stuff you do yourself), and you catch me
and bring it to my attention, I will remove myself from the list. Your
part? Forgive, forget, and put the past in the past. How about it? If I
dare break any of these rules to much, out I go. It's a sort of last
chance in exchange for peace. It sounded good to me, now how about you?
     Oh, onemore thing... someone on the list was making a page about
TMBG dreams... can anyone give me the URL to this page?

Keep cool, and take care.

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Message-ID: <EqPU4bq00WB=0Ph740@andrew.cmu.edu>
Date: Tue,  8 Dec 1998 23:48:39 -0500 (EST)
From: Lawrence P Solomon <lps+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: TMBG: Mike Leffel

Excerpts from internet.music.tmbg: 8-Dec-98 Re: TMBG: Mike Leffel by
tmbgirl@juno.com
>        If anyone wants to fill in the actual story of mike and how he
> just disappeared one day only to return several months later and inform
> us of how he was majorly sick (sorry i can't member the details...) only
> to disappear again a few weeks later and never return...

actually, he might be back in a couple of weeks... I know a friend of
his here at CMU, and he said that when he goes home for the winter, he's
going to help fix Mike's computer and get him back online...
(apparently, that's more difficult than it sounds in Nebraska)

I'm sure when he comes back he'll fill us in on all the details of where
he's been for the last year and a half... :)

Also, he's the one who started the signature thing with the quote in the
middle of his name...

Lawrence Solomon  http://www.contrib.andrew.cmu.edu/~lps/  lps@andrew.cmu.edu
"You keep handing out horseshoes                  *  This space inadvertently
 Horseshoes have gotta be tossed."  -Moxy Fruvous *   left with stuff in it.

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Date: Wed, 09 Dec 1998 00:32:41 -0500
From: Sarah <sarah.hurd@wmich.edu>
Subject: TMBG: TMBG and Math
Message-id: <366E0B78.6CA0@wmich.edu>

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Date: Wed, 09 Dec 1998 00:38:37 -0500
From: Sarah <sarah.hurd@wmich.edu>
Subject: TMBG: TMBG and Math
Message-id: <366E0CDC.58DD@wmich.edu>

>>>>>>>>Please excuse my accidental send two minutes earlier<<<<<<<<

Okay... Hey anyone and everyone. I have something interesting which I
promised to share last year when I was working on it. Anyway, I was in
this math class last year that related Mathematics to most everything in
the universe, and we had to write a paper about anything we wanted to,
so long as it was math related. So I found mathematical connections in
TMBG's music and wrote a paper about it. If you're interested, you can
read it here:
 http://www.angelfire.com/me/momerath/tmbg.html
Lemme know what ya think!

 ~Sarah
*Everything right is wrong again*

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Date: Tue, 8 Dec 1998 22:07:04 -0800 (PST)
From: leonard helfgott <helfgott@cc.wwu.edu>
Subject: Re: TMBG: Mike Leffel
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.96.981208220538.18728A-100000@titan.cc.wwu.edu>

Another one of these threads? Mike Leffel was the king of absurdity.
Because of him, many productive groups sprouted up that contributed to
society in many different ways (such as the United Coalition of 14 Year
Olds Against Mike Leffel).  He also started the middle name thing.
Cap'n Helfgott

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Date: Tue, 08 Dec 1998 23:03:28 -0800
From: Bill Brock <BBROCK@wpsmtp.grossmont.k12.ca.us>
Subject: TMBG: tmbg-list Digest #13-9 -Reply

Please discontinue use of this e-mail address.  My new e-mail address, temporarily at least, is bbrock3@juno.com.

I may also be contacted at National University, School of Education and Human Services, Dept. of Specialized Programs.

Questions about GUHSD Assessment & Evaluation may be directed to Janet Mooney 644-8260 or Nani Armstrong 644-8261.

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Date: Tue, 8 Dec 1998 23:46:10 -0800 (PST)
From: Nicole Carlson <nmcarlson@ucdavis.edu>
Subject: TMBG: Campus bands
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.04.9812082324400.2213-100000@dogbert.ucdavis.edu>

On Tue, 8 Dec 1998 owner-tmbg-digest@tmbg.org wrote:
> band(s) to bring in for the spring concert that we always have.  You see,
> in the past, we've had good bands sometimes, like Morphine or (back in 93,
> I believe) TMBG, but lately we've had crap, with bands like Stir, the
> Samples, and so on (although getting the Scofflaws once, and getting De La
> Soul a different time...now that ruled).  So anyway, the survey,
> apparently showing what bands the campus really likes, resulted in
three
> bands being requested.  G. Love and Special Sauce, the Violent Femmes, and
> TMBG.  Weird.  I should have more faith in my campus...

I have this theory about collegiate music lineups--they have good years
and bad years.  My own university, after two astoundingly uninspiring
lineups, this year got Natalie Macmaster, Mark O'Connor, Anonymous 4,
*AND* the Reduced Shakespeare Company.  Now *that's* a lineup.  (And yes,
of course I have tickets.) I can almost forgive them for ignoring my only
slightly pathetic plea to please please bring TMBG and/or Moxy Fruvous to
campus.

> I don't really have anything to add to this except my agreement.  Has
> BNL sold their soul?  Did they leave it behind?  Count me as number 3 of
> the seven.

I have Stunt, (been a BNL fan, though never an insane one, since Gordon
days) but it hasn't been in my CD player since summer.  I've bought a lot
of new CDs recently (speaking of which, everyone check out Great Big Sea!
They kick major booty!), but still.
A shame, because their first two albums (never cared for _Born on a Pirate
Ship_, returned it the week after I bought it) are very good--melodic,
insightful, bitingly funny.
One less "secret" band, I guess.

> If you are looking for more stuff for that tape, you may consider Mono Puff
> to be close enough to TMBG (I mean, hey, it has Flansy!). Mono Puff has
> a song called Careless Santa that might fit really well! Anyone have any
> other ideas?

You know, it's not really a TMBG song, but don't forget the Mono Puff song
"Careless Santa"; I don't think anyone's mentioned it yet...

Ok, ok, it's old.  I'm sorry.  To make up for it, I humbly propose some
songs by The Bobs, whose Christmas album (Too Many Santas!) is, IMHO,
their strongest. (I've only heard two, maybe 2 1/2 others, but I didn't
much like them)
Also the Arrogant Worms.  I've not heard their Christmas album (Christmas
Turkey), but I have "Live Bait" and love it.  With song titles like "Oh
God, I'm Santa Claus", "Christmas in Ignace", and "Vincent the Christmas
Virus", what could go wrong?

--nicole the wonder nerd

o/~It's not my birthday, it's not today...o/~
oh, wait... wrong song. *blush*  Finally, I can retire the fake ID.

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Message-ID: <366E51D9.21D04415@pacificnet.net>
Date: Wed, 09 Dec 1998 03:33:01 -0700
From: Bongo <ggr@pacificnet.net>
Subject: TMBG: Re:Christmas tape

> i started an xmas tape today but got bored fast and gave it to my little
> sister.{{ i have a tape with some shadowy men on a shadowy planet xmas songs,
> but the tape got ripped up (and there's no screws in the tape... !!?? so i
> can't fix it. :P) }}
>
       You can fix it if you really want to. Just pry a small screwdriver into where the
two halves meet and twist it till you crack it open. Then carefully transplant plant the
two reels into the body of another cassette (the kind with screws). Of course it might
just be easier to make the tape all over again especially since you'll have a big ugly gap
where the mangled tape was excised. I performed this operation a few times and it worked
okay.

     With all this talk of Christmas tapes, I wanna make my own but its a little late for
this year. Maybe next.

-B    O    N    G    O

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Date: Wed, 09 Dec 1998 09:55:05 -0500
From: Eric C Near <near1@MARSHALL.EDU>
Subject: TMBG: who is Mike Leffel?
Message-id: <366E8F49.980FF66B@marshall.edu>
Organization: Marshall University

you heard it.

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Message-ID: <4D5178818AD8D111A9800000F80681DF15E9CE@LSD43UPD01.fort-mchenry.navy.mil>
From: ET2 Zurell <dzurell@fort-mchenry.navy.mil>
Subject: Re: TMBG: Dr. Worm Single????? -Reply
Date: Thu, 10 Dec 1998 01:14:15 +0900

>   Does anyone know about a European Dr. Worm single? I was just
>bumming around the 'net and decided to drop into gemm.com and
>they list an European import Dr. Worm single. Anyone have any info
>on this? Does anyone know if restless plans a u.s. Dr. Worm single?

Not so sure about Europe, but there appears to be an Asian version that I
heard (twice now) in my favorite little Karaoke bar in Japan.  It is odd
that it isn't like the STD version or the .MOV from tmbg.com.  Am I going
crazy or has anyone else heard this (new) version?

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I suspect people of plotting to make me happy. -J. D. Salinger

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>>the Childrens Album was going to be titled "No"....is this true? old
>>news?

I don't know if it's true, but it would seem to be the perfect name for a
TMBG children's album. Think about it...what's the one word that kids hate
to hear from other people "No, you can't have this...No, you can't do
that". Using the one word that children hate above all others as the name
for a children's album sooooooo TMBGish. (not that I'm saying they
necessarily had that in mind)

--Jason--
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Hey,

	I got started with TMBG on Flood (actually, some guys were driving me
crazy singing the songs on a hiking trip for miles and miles!), but now I
just get sick of it. After expanding my collection to include all of their
albums, I find that Flood just kind of pales in comparison- maybe it's too
commercial? Maybe I'm just sick of it? What do you think? My personal
favorite right now is John Henry- the decidsion to use real instrumentation
produced a really great, well-balanced rocking album.

	What do you guys think?

(BTW, PLEASE stop talking about this Josh guy! TMBG all the way!

Stephen
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In a message dated 12/9/98 11:49:17 AM, sshores@orthotrac.com writes:

>Hey,
>
>
>
>	I got started with TMBG on Flood (actually, some guys were driving me
>
>crazy singing the songs on a hiking trip for miles and miles!), but now
>I
>
>just get sick of it. After expanding my collection to include all of their
>
>albums, I find that Flood just kind of pales in comparison- maybe it's
>too
>
>commercial? Maybe I'm just sick of it? What do you think? My personal
>
>favorite right now is John Henry- the decidsion to use real instrumentation
>
>produced a really great, well-balanced rocking album.

i'm not a fan of commercial things; but i still like flood. it may tie with FS
in my ranking, and they'd probably come in last, but i still love it.. john
henry's my favourite i guess, tied with lincoln... wait.. i love the pink
album... arrrrrgh.. screw this.

yes.

sarah
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In a message dated 12/8/98 11:50:10 PM, dilbert_2000@hotmail.com writes:

>Except the part of not returning to my
>site. This guy hates my site, though he is constantly hanging around my
>
>site. How do i know? BEHOLD! MY GUESTBOOK! FEAST YOUR EYES UPON THE
>NUMBER OF TIMES HE HAS SIGNED IT!
>http://callisto.guestworld.tripod.lycos.com/wgb/wgbview.dbm?owner=Zapruter

well, the thing with the guestbooks is, the entries can be easily forged. how
do we know it wasn't *you*?  i'm not saying it can't be him. but. not everyone
is completely gullible. especially with that little..

Total Number of Guests 12
Unapproved Guests 14

and you are aware that you can delete entries, aren't you?

sarah
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Yes, I still love Flood (currently in my car's tape deck) but no more or less
than I love any of their cds.  I can't imagine doing without a single one,
because every single cd has a few absolute gems and others that I love almost
as much, with only one or two songs per cd I could live without.  That's a
damn good average.  It's interesting that you mention how the full band sound
of JH is an improvement since there is currently a thread on the newsgroup
about whether or not they should ditch the band (I don't think so).

Kay
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"I like They Might Be Giants alot, but I've lost interest in them since
discovering what dumb beasts ("fans") they attract. Bug lights are cool,
but bugs are not, get me? "
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On Wed, 9 Dec 1998, Stephen Shores wrote:

> Hey,

	Hey.

> 	I got started with TMBG on Flood

	Heh . . . I got started on Apollo 18.  The Statue Got Me High, to
be specific.  I was talking to a friend on the phone when he suddenly
said, "Hey, listen to this!" and put the phone up to his stereo speakers.
After listening for a bit, he asked me what I thought.  "Great!" I said.
"Who the hell are they?"  "They Might Be Giants," he replied.  And thus
began my trek into the depths of They-dom . . .

> (actually, some guys were driving me crazy singing the songs on a hiking
> trip for miles and miles!), but now I just get sick of it. After
> expanding my collection to include all of their albums, I find that
> Flood just kind of pales in comparison- maybe it's too commercial? Maybe
> I'm just sick of it? What do you think?

	I do nae have a favorite album, as I enjoy all of them more or
less equally.  One of the things that placed Them as my absolute favorite
band ever was the fact that there is not one song of theirs that I
actually hate.  There are only maybe one or two (Bag of Groceries and
SEXXY are the first that spring to mind) that I could say I don't really
care for, but even those I listen to and know all the words to.  Flood is
no less entertaining to me now that it's ever been!
	I, personally, don't think that the "commercial" argument really
hold any water anyway.  A band can't really sound "commercial", as many
"commercial" bands have had extremely different sounds.  And just because
Flood did better commercially than their other albums shouldn't be any
reason to ostricize it . . .  I hate it when people do that.  My brother,
for example, absolutely loved Hanson's MMMBop until he found out everyone
else loved it, too, after which he dropped it like a red hot bar of iron.
I mean, really, if you like the music, like the music . . . doesn't matter
whether someone else (or everyone else) likes it or not.
	</EDITORIAL>

> My personal favorite right now is John Henry- the decidsion to use real
> instrumentation produced a really great, well-balanced rocking album.

	My favorite songs right now is a tie between the STD versions of
Spider and James Ensor (the latter mostly because of the "vocal guitars"
=] ).

> 	What do you guys think?

	I think I don't want to shoot the bunny.

	Jimbo:  What are you talking about, you don't want to shoot the
bunny?!  You're babbling!  You're hysterical!

	I'm not hysterical. I just don't want to shoot the bunny.

> (BTW, PLEASE stop talking about this Josh guy! TMBG all the way!

	TMBG ALL THE WAY, BABY!

		Jim-ical Man, Jim-ical Man, doing the things that a
Jim-ical can . . .	<rlowery@taurus.oursc.k12.ar.us>

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<<
 >>the Childrens Album was going to be titled "No"....is this true? old
 >>news?

 I don't know if it's true, but it would seem to be the perfect name for a
 TMBG children's album. Think about it...what's the one word that kids hate
 to hear from other people "No, you can't have this...No, you can't do
 that". Using the one word that children hate above all others as the name
 for a children's album sooooooo TMBGish. (not that I'm saying they
 necessarily had that in mind)
  >>

They mention "No" as the title of their children's album in the MTV feature
interview (linked to the www.tmbg.org main page).  It's a cool title, but it
could backfire to use a word kids hate as the title if they expect kids to
actuallly *want* the cd.  They also mention that their next regular cd is
going to be called "Jesus, Hitler, and Me" (referring to Flansburgh's  hopeful
rise to third place in the Time person of the Century pole behind Jesus and
Hilter), so there's no telling if they're serious about "No" or not ("Insect
Hospital," anyone?).

Kay
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On Wed, 9 Dec 1998 KdsInThHal@aol.com wrote:

> "I like They Might Be Giants alot, but I've lost interest in them since
> discovering what dumb beasts ("fans") they attract. Bug lights are cool,
> but bugs are not, get me? "

	But . . . bug lights are so much cooler when bugs run into them,
neh?  'Course, no one has been electri-fried by touching one of the Johns
. . . at least, I don't THINK anyone has . . .

		Jim, Jim, Jim of the Jungle
			<rlowery@taurus.oursc.k12.ar.us>

	"Don't go towards the light!"
	"I can't help it . . . it's so beautiful . . . *BZAP*  ARGH!"
				-A Bug's Life

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I have no idea if this is acceptable for this list but as I*m shortly off to the
sun until next year can I take this opportunity to wish you all a mery
Xmas and a happy New Year

Can I thank everyone for their posts over the last year (well, since I
joined anyway) especially, but not exclusively, people like bicknell@ufp,
captainmarvel2, Uncle Squid (see you at the concerts in January?),
grennjello1973. J.Kueemnerle, KidsInThHal, Superman75 and of course
tmbgirl (for the tapes which I hope are on their way) and Russj (for the
videos). And even dilbert_2000 - well it is the season of goodwill!

Messages on the list have made turning on the computer each morning a
pleasure; and when all you tend to do with a computer is spreadsheets
and balance books you need an incentive to switch the thing on!

I hope to see some of you in London in mid January when TMBG play
two, yes two, concerts. I suspect nothing less than the promise of two
TMBG concerts will make me leave that tropical Australian beach to come
back to a damp and wet London.

So enjoy yourselves everyone.

Richard - *so, these sharks, friendly are they?*
packing one teashirt, one swimming costume, one suntan lotion, one
camera, one pair of sunglasses but many books.

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In a message dated 12/9/98 3:01:14 AM, nmcarlson@ucdavis.edu writes:

>A shame, because their first two albums (never cared for _Born on a Pirate
>Ship_, returned it the week after I bought it) are very good--melodic,
>insightful, bitingly funny.

how do you people do that? i've never returned a cd in my life. sometimes i'm
not crazy about them, and i keep them.. it can be a year until they grow on
me, or i even decide to give them a second chance. i still even have ones i do
dislike (from that spurt of music in 1994... green day, offspring..) and i
plan to take them to a used store, i just never get around to it.

sarah
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From: bill tatalovich <wt3@cec.wustl.edu>
To: TMBG <tmbg-list@tmbg.org>
Subject: Re: TMBG: Used CDs
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On Wed, 9 Dec 1998 KdsInThHal@aol.com wrote:

> how do you people do that? i've never returned a cd in my life.
> sometimes i'm not crazy about them, and i keep them.. it can be a year
> until they grow on me, or i even decide to give them a second chance. i
> still even have ones i do dislike (from that spurt of music in 1994...
> green day, offspring..) and i plan to take them to a used store, i just
> never get around to it.

Obviously, I can't speak for many people here, but I have a couple of
different reasons why I "return" CDs:
	--I really really need money (ah, don't ya love college?)
	--I review something (I do music reviews for a campus paper) that
	  is really really bad
	--I just decide that I'm never going to listen to a CD ever again,
	  and want to get something I will actually enjoy
I know that there are some holes in what I do (I normally sell about 5 CDs
a month or so)...I sold a Cursive CD (Such Blinding Stars for Starving
Eyes, in case anyone's heard them), and then decided two weeks later that
I HAD to hear a certain song.  So then I was screwed.

But hey...just yesterday I traded the Cher CD (which I got for free, but
never bothered to listen to), the newest Sarah Mclachlan (had two), and
the new Dial 7 album (which is just bad) for four 7"s (Jawbox, Promise
Ring, Karl Hendricks Trio, and a split 7" between Tim Kinsella and Jen
Wood) and a CD single (split between Burning Airlines and Braid).  Not a
bad deal...

The Rev, who is praying he survives the last week of the semester

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I got started on Flood way back..umm 3 years ago? No..must of been longer than
that.. anyways I was in 8th grade..didn't ahve a lot of money, and it was the
first cd I ever owned. I begged my parents for it for christmas. I still like
it when I'm in a certain mood, but I got all flooded out when that was the
only cd I had to listen to when I went down to Florida driving with my parents
from all the way from NY. After listening to one cd that long...man..you start
to hallucinate..or maybe the subliminal messages took effect and thats why I'm
such a big fan now.. ::shrugs::
-Amber the Transcendent Mistress of the Known Cosmos, Empress for Eternity
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Subject: TMBG:  DC Show on the 30th.
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Anyone got any details on where to get tix?  Methinks I may be able to get
the day off to come up for the show.  Roadtrip!!!  Whoohoo!!!

Jack Bergeron, idiotnot@visi.net  bluedawg@tmbg.org
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Worm
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Excerpts from internet.music.tmbg: 9-Dec-98 TMBG: Anyone out there
stil.. by "Stephen Shores"@orthotr
> albums, I find that Flood just kind of pales in comparison- maybe it's too
> commercial? Maybe I'm just sick of it? What do you think? My personal
> favorite right now is John Henry- the decidsion to use real instrumentation
> produced a really great, well-balanced rocking album.

I definitely agree with you there... It's not that it's too commercial -
I don't think it is.  But it's... top heavy, for one... I love the first
10 tracks or so... then it becomes sparse... I skip Hearing Aid, and
sometimes Minimum Wage (it gets annoying after too many listens), listen
to Letterbox and Whistling, and then turn it off and put in a different
CD.  I think Apollo 18 is the same way.

And some of thost first 10 tracks get tiresome after a while.  Flood is
a much more... synthetic sounding album than the mostly acoustic
Lincoln...

John Henry, on the other hand, has Out of Jail, Stomp Box, and the End
of the Tour, to give balance to Subliminal, Sleeping in the Flowers, and
I Should Be Allowed to Think.  Plus it's got a lot of really good stuff
in the middle, too.  And I think that the End of the Tour is about the
strongest ending track they'll ever have - I used it as the last track
on my tape, "TMBG's very best songs," too.

Lawrence Solomon  http://www.contrib.andrew.cmu.edu/~lps/  lps@andrew.cmu.edu
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I started my TMBG fetish with flood too. (Actually it was thanx to Tiny
Toons, who knew?) And I still love it. I mean, how could I live without
Birdhouse, and I still love Groceries... And if I ever had to rank their
albums, I don't hink I could do it. I mean, I could... but it would be
VERY difficult since they all have such greatness and I would never be
stisfied with the rankings.

~Sarah
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Excerpts from internet.music.tmbg: 9-Dec-98 TMBG:  DC Show on the 30th.
by "S. Bergeron"@visi.net
> Anyone got any details on where to get tix?  Methinks I may be able to get
> the day off to come up for the show.  Roadtrip!!!  Whoohoo!!!

Call 1-800-551-7328.  That's Ticketbastard's number listed on the
envelope they gave me (there are local numbers, too, but presumably you
want to call toll free)

It's gonna be a kickass show - they've had two months to practice.  I'd
better hear some songs they haven't played in a while...

Lawrence Solomon  http://www.contrib.andrew.cmu.edu/~lps/  lps@andrew.cmu.edu
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 Horseshoes have gotta be tossed."  -Moxy Fruvous *   left with stuff in it.

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S. Bergeron wrote:
>
> Anyone got any details on where to get tix?

930.com has phone info and the like.

Joey, over-using "Mike Leffel"
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>
> I started my TMBG fetish with flood too. (Actually it was thanx to Tiny
> Toons, who knew?)

Actually, Tiny Toons just sparked my interest and I it took me a year or
so to figure out that these guys were real, and to figure out what there
name actually was (There May Be Giants? What?) But Apollo 18 was
actually the first album I heard. My friend had it and I borrowed it and
memorized the whole thing. and that was before I actually got out and
bought Flood.

~Sarah
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From: Eric C Near <near1@MARSHALL.EDU>
Subject: Re: TMBG: Anyone out there still like Flood?
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I have to admit I'm a Floodie. It is how I started liking TMBG like you.
But then I got John Henry and it blew me away. I hated Factory Showroom
and I like Severe Tire Damage.

Stephen Shores wrote:
>
> Hey,
>
>         I got started with TMBG on Flood (actually, some guys were driving me
> crazy singing the songs on a hiking trip for miles and miles!), but now I
> just get sick of it. After expanding my collection to include all of their
> albums, I find that Flood just kind of pales in comparison- maybe it's too
> commercial? Maybe I'm just sick of it? What do you think? My personal
> favorite right now is John Henry- the decidsion to use real instrumentation
> produced a really great, well-balanced rocking album.
>
>         What do you guys think?
>
> (BTW, PLEASE stop talking about this Josh guy! TMBG all the way!
>
> Stephen

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<jim>

ooh!  ooh!  ooh!  what did the good Doctor have to say?

--jim kuemmerle, who thinks dr. drew is quite the man...
</jim>

well, you can check out
http://www.usaweekend.com
for the article.

The quote that *did* hit home for me was
"What do people do at the end of a relationship? They do the same thing all
over again [with a new partner]. Why not try to heal the relationship
you're in?"

I stand firmly behind Dr. Drew's view of intimacy and monogamy.

Now back to our regularly scheduled TMBG content. :)

-courtney
a closet dr. drew fan, and didn't even know it!

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---Josh Buckland <dilbert_2000@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> Oh, onemore thing... someone on the list was making a
> page about  TMBG dreams... can anyone give me the URL
> to this page?
Hasn't been created yet.  I'm still taking submissions, though.  Send
them here or to cherubino@rocketmail.com.

Will let everyone know when it's up and running,
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Lawrence wrote:
>
> I don't think it is.  But it's... top heavy, for one... I
> love the first
> 10 tracks or so... then it becomes sparse... I skip Hearing Aid, and
> sometimes Minimum Wage (it gets annoying after too many
> listens), listen
> to Letterbox and Whistling, and then turn it off and put in a
> different
> CD.  I think Apollo 18 is the same way.
>
I used to feel the same way about Flood, that all the best tracks were
the earlier ones but over the years I've come to love every song, even
Sapphire Bullets. By the way Dead is my _favorite_ TMBG song. It
beautiful. Anyway, I think Flood is one of the best TMBG albums, and I
don't hesitate to say that. I think the songs are very pure. I don't
exactly know what that means, but I think it's accurate. It's also
because it's the only album that dosen't have a song that annoys me.
FLOOD FOREVER!
 -Wubba

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---Thomas Kula <tk0003@drake.edu> wrote:
>
> At 19:03 -0600 12/8/98, Me wrote:
> >So I was listening to Apollo 18 on the way to work today, and "See
the
> >Constellation" came on...
> <snip>
>
> Actually, if I may add my $0.02: I never thought of > the song in
that way,
Funny, neither had I until yesterday, and I've had the album for quite
a while.

> but I do like the song because to me it is all about > Radio
Astronomy (one
> of my favorite areas of science). "Can you hear what > I see in the
sky?"
That's cool!

> Or it could just be a stoned guy....
:)  BTW, I should probably add that I don't necessarily think this was
what Flans was thinking when he wrote the song.  It's just an
interesting way of looking at it.

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I stumbled across this Severe Tire Damage review that I haven't seen posted
here yet (if it has been posted...oh well)

http://www.seattlesquare.com/pandemonium/cdreviewstext/TheyMightBeGiants.htm

--Jason--
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>anyways I was in 8th grade..didn't ahve a lot of money, and it
>was the
>first cd I ever owned.

hahaa! think if they still did stump the band and they had to ask you!!
that would be amusing.

take it easy, JOrdaN
http://www2.netcom.com/~arnot/joda/bootlegs.html
12/11 Harvey Danger, Soul Coughing, Cherry Poppin' Daddies, and Love &
Rockets :)

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>I think it should
>have
>and that it maybe should have replaced Window in the rotation. "Back
>to
>Skull"'s other great b-side, the alternate Hotel Detective, also, IMO,
>should have been placed on John Henry in place of Self Called Nowhere.
>I don't like Self Called Nowhere all that much. Anyone else feel this
>way?

	I don't really care for Window, so yeah, it'd be great if the alternate
Hotel Detective or Mrs. Train was put on instead.  However, I happen to
think Self Called Nowhere is great.  John's accent is great, the imagery,
and the way the lyrics and singing reach a crescendo (if that's even the
correct music terminology, since I'm about the most musically untalented
person on the planet) are all just great.  In fact, it is one of the songs
I look forward to most on the album.

			Ben

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>okie... how bouts all the floodies out there?  you think you'd do it
>all over again?

what if your a floodie who didn't listen to Flood until about 2 or 3
years after it was made, yet it was the first album of theirs you heard,
and the one that got you hooked.  I had never previously heard of TMBG
before I listened to Flood around 1993, when my big sis played it for me.
 In my depressed state of mind (middle school is hell) TMBG cheered me up
greatly, and thus became a very important part of my life.  If I could
feel the same way I felt, when TMBG was a new form of prozac for me, yes
I would do it all over again :) *sniff*  But TMBG still makes my glee,
wee hee hee.  But everyone knows that no time is like the first time you
fall in love with a great group.  And boy did I, this has been about a 6
year relationship.

*ah nastalgia*

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>http://www2.netcom.com/~arnot/joda/bootlegs.html
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---Ben Bradshaw <benshaw@mindspring.com> wrote:
> However, I happen to think Self Called Nowhere is
> great.  John's accent is great, the imagery,
> and the way the lyrics and singing reach a crescendo
Woohoo!  I'd love to hear John say "Park your car by the bar at
Harvard Yard" in that voice.  Not to mention that "Standing in my yard
where they tore down the garage to make room for the torn-down garage"
is one of the greatest lines he's ever written.  The surreal ending is
just awesome.

Never heard Mrs. Train,
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Geez, I'll always have a place for Birdhouse in my heart.  I don't really
care about comercialism, I care about melody, fidelity, and quantity.
But I think my favorite album, that I'll never ever tire of, is Apollo
18.

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