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tmbg-list Digest, Volume 6, Number 29
Friday, 29 May 1998
Today's Topics:
Re: TMBG: Non They Related(films)
Re: TMBG: They Might Be Giants - The Movie
Re: TMBG: hey! who's that playing?
Re: TMBG: hey! who's that playing?
Re: TMBG: Is it Naked Jim eating Lunch?
TMBG: Mike Leffel
TMBG: Phil Hartman
Re: NON-TMBG: Phil Hartman
Re: TMBG: Phil Hartman
Re: TMBG: Mike Leffel
Re: TMBG: Phil Hartman
Re: TMBG: Phil Hartman
Re: TMBG: Phil Hartman
Re: TMBG: Phil Hartman
TMBG: Hey a movie is on!
Re: TMBG: Phil Hartman
Non-TMBG: The curse of Saturday Night Live
Re: Non-TMBG: The curse of Saturday Night Live
Re: TMBG: Phil Hartman
Re: TMBG: Phil Hartman
Re: TMBG: Phil Hartman
NON-TMBG: Re: Phil Hartman
Re: TMBG: Phil Hartman
Re: TMBG: Phil Hartman
TMBG: Phil Hartman
Re: TMBG: Chris Farley, Hanson
Re: NON-TMBG: Re: Phil Hartman
Re: NON-TMBG: Phil Hartman
Re: NON-TMBG: Phil Hartman
Re: TMBG: Phil Hartman
TMBG: Phil Hartman
Re: Non-TMBG: The curse of Saturday Night Live
Re: TMBG: Chris Farley, Hanson
Re: Non-TMBG: The curse of Saturday Night Live
An excellent suggestion+Semi-TMBG:Baseball Tonight
Non-TMBG: Re: Phil Hartman
NON-TMBG: Hanson (was: Re: TMBG: Phil Hartman)
Re: TMBG: Phil Hartman
Re: An excellent suggestion+Semi-TMBG:Baseball Tonight
Re: An excellent suggestion+Semi-TMBG:Baseball Tonight
TMBG: this is way out of hand already....
Re: TMBG: Phil Hartman & Chris Farley
Re: TMBG: Phil Hartman/Chris Farley/Kicking People Off The List...
TMBG: my take on things.
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Date: Thu, 28 May 1998 05:43:13 -0700 (PDT)
From: Leanne Fraser <trianglewoman@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: TMBG: Non They Related(films)
> OH MY GOD... that has to be one of my favorite movies of all
times. I
> hate to clogg up the list with stupid posts, but damn, I just had to
> acknowledge that. By the way, Leanne, if you liked Dead Man, you
should also
> see "Mystery Train". Its by the same guy and Steve Buscemi is in
it... and
> who doesn't love Steve, am i right?
>
Actually, I have seen it. And it was a Great Movie!
P L & V
Leanne
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From: tmbgirl@juno.com
Date: Thu, 28 May 1998 07:45:05 -0600
Subject: Re: TMBG: They Might Be Giants - The Movie
Message-ID: <19980528.074857.11134.4.TMBgirl@juno.com>
>I have
>never
>been to a video store that had it or could get it on request. But I
>keep
>looking. I am sure someone has seen it, please fill me in.
go to blockbuster...
on a side note, john and john always say how crappy this movie is... i
really didn't think it was that bad (am i the only one?) maybe it's just
cuz my ex used to act like him...
>Now howabout if TMBG made a movie about themselves?
> I don't think it'd work without Dan Akroyd as Flans...
i'm still for david spade taking the role of linny...
take it easy, JOrdaN
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From: tmbgirl@juno.com
Date: Thu, 28 May 1998 07:48:53 -0600
Subject: Re: TMBG: hey! who's that playing?
Message-ID: <19980528.074857.11134.5.TMBgirl@juno.com>
>remember a short while back, TMBG's old drummer (JD Feinberg? I hope
>that's
>right) posted to the newsgroup about his web page? any of you visit
>it? right
>on it, he states that he in fact *is* The Jim referred to in The
>Guitar.
WHOAWHOA!!!
the "J" in J.D Feingberg's name stands for jim?
i always assumed it was Jim O'Conner (the trumpet player) but someone
told me it was that cartoonist... J. Otto Seibold (sp?)
take it easy, JOrdaN
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Date: Thu, 28 May 1998 12:05:22 +0000
From: "Chris \"Feeny\" Campbell" <ccampbell@mix-net.net>
Subject: Re: TMBG: hey! who's that playing?
>
>
> WHOAWHOA!!!
> the "J" in J.D Feingberg's name stands for jim?
No, his name is Jon not Jim. Sorry, good guess though!
-Chris "Sensurround" "Sensefeeny" Feeny Campbell
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From: "Drunken Bird" <THROWER_JASON@colstate.edu>
Organization: Columbus State Univ.,Columbus, Ga.
Date: Thu, 28 May 1998 12:26:00 EST
Subject: Re: TMBG: Is it Naked Jim eating Lunch?
Message-ID: <1559AE72ED1@colstate.edu>
> Excuse my dumbness (my teacher gave me a note), but do we know for sure which Jim They
> were talking about? I have always assumed it was Jim Morrison. I only questioned that
> today, when I ran into another Morrison.
Whoops.. my bad, I meant to say Jimi Hendrix..
<gr> I was exposed to both Jims at the same point in my life.
-
Drunken "Abort, Retry, Fail? approach to life" Bird
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Message-ID: <356D9907.E10ACD89@qn.net>
Date: Thu, 28 May 1998 13:04:07 -0400
From: Diana Kocar <dkocar@qn.net>
Subject: TMBG: Mike Leffel
Maybe I'm just a bit out of it, but I was just wondering who in the
world Mike Leffel really is, and why do we keep talking about him??
Maybe I missed the original post about him, but I'm really confused....
Diana
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From: Tmbgneat@aol.com
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Date: Thu, 28 May 1998 13:02:35 EDT
Subject: TMBG: Phil Hartman
Phil Hartman found dead shot to death!.......lets all cry together!.... :-(
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Date: Thu, 28 May 1998 13:04:31 -0400
From: Adam Tyner <ctyner@clemson.edu>
Subject: Re: NON-TMBG: Phil Hartman
Before anyone asks if this is for real, I'm sad to say that it is. :(
http://www.nando.com/newsroom/ntn/enter/052898/entert_20779.html
-Adam
At 01:02 PM 5/28/98 EDT, Tmbgneat@aol.com wrote:
>Phil Hartman found dead shot to death!.......lets all cry together!.... :-(
>
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From: KdsInThHal@aol.com
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Date: Thu, 28 May 1998 13:11:32 EDT
Subject: Re: TMBG: Phil Hartman
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Mike Leffel is 90% water and 4000% bigger than the list. (I am bigger than
the list too, but that is a whole different discusion. Last I checked, he
was 200 feet tall and 6 pounds 4 ounces of killing pleasure. He once
destroyed the world and put it back together again to prove that he was DOG,
or something that had those letters in it.
Let it be known, that Leffel is the only one not owned by the great Shasta,
in fact he owns Shasta.
Do not ask, lest you be told,
LDB (Leffel Destroys Ballywho)
At 01:04 PM 5/28/98 -0400, Diana Kocar wrote:
>Maybe I'm just a bit out of it, but I was just wondering who in the
>world Mike Leffel really is, and why do we keep talking about him??
>Maybe I missed the original post about him, but I'm really confused....
>
>
>Diana
>
>
>
>
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Tmbgneat@aol.com wrote:
>Phil Hartman found dead shot to death!.......lets all cry together!.... :-(
Waaahh!! Troy McClure!!! Bill MacNeal!!! :'(
I'm gonna miss him a LOT more than Chris Farley... :(
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In a message dated 5/28/98 1:45:15 PM Eastern Daylight Time, jls5@psu.edu
writes:
> >Phil Hartman found dead shot to death!.......lets all cry together!.... :-(
>
> Waaahh!! Troy McClure!!! Bill MacNeal!!! :'(
> I'm gonna miss him a LOT more than Chris Farley... :(
all offense intended, chris farley was not even 1/1,000,000 of the talent that
phil hartman was. all chris can do is yell and get hit with things....
phil hartman actually had talent, and he will truely be missed. luckily he
did film another movie before this happened, so that will be released, but the
simpsons will not be the same with out him (lionel hutz as well, and a few
more) and i am wondering what will happen to news radio which was supposed to
have another season. i am hoping that out of respect, they forget about it.
there is no way that show could ever be the same either.
aaron
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What???
Is this true?
Tmbgneat@aol.com wrote:
> Phil Hartman found dead shot to death!.......lets all cry together!.... :-(
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okay, the truth about phil is that his wife brin commited a homoside/suicide,
killing phil, and herself...I am truly saddened by the loss. I am also
ashamed of the few people that said how he would be missed so much more than
Chris Farley; this statement really pissed me off.
Matt- depressed and pissed off
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Hey praise Leffel, They Might Be Giants the movie is on.
LDB! Leffel Does Behead...
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To me, what makes Plil's death even sadder than Chris's, (aside from all
those great characters and his great acting from some of the best years
SNL ever had, my favorite being the guy running for Vice Pres. under
Perot, you know "Who am I?" "Where am I going" *here I am, laughing
through streams of tears as I remember the good ol' days of SNL,
sniff*)is the fact that he was murdered, and Chris made the stupid
mistake of overdosing. I mean, doesn't that say it all. I mean I highly
doubt ol' Phil wanted this whole mess, he had what seemed to me a bright
future ahead of him, a lomg life, while Chris should've known that if you
take drugs your not going to last very long.
So Sad :-^ (
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I've had this theory for a while: if you are a hit player on Saturday
Night Live, you will have an untimely death. Someone else will have to do
the math on this, but what is the percentage of untimely deaths to that
of the general population? It seems that it's much much higher for the SNL
players... Jim Belushi, Gilda Radner, Chris Farley, Buckwheat, etc...
Yar
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On Thu, 28 May 1998, Alon Yaari wrote:
> I've had this theory for a while: if you are a hit player on Saturday
> Night Live, you will have an untimely death. Someone else will have to do
> the math on this, but what is the percentage of untimely deaths to that
> of the general population? It seems that it's much much higher for the SNL
> players... Jim...
john.
> ...Belushi, Gilda Radner, Chris Farley, Buckwheat,...
eddie murphy!?
lots of pressure, lots of fame. with belushi and farley, that reinforced
an already-established pattern of substance abuse. gilda radner succumbed
to cancer, if i remember correctly.
--jim kuemmerle, who will miss phil hartman very very much but who has
still not gotten over the loss of gilda...
j.kuemmerle@m.cc.utah.edu
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In a message dated 5/28/98 4:35:16 PM Eastern Daylight Time, DrWormX@aol.com
writes:
> I am also
> ashamed of the few people that said how he would be missed so much more
than
> Chris Farley; this statement really pissed me off.
let it piss you off. chris farley had no acting talent at all. name one
thing that he has done when he wasn;t screaming his head of and then falling
down? i don;t think you can come up with anything, because he even did it in
the comeheads movie. the fact that he overdosed shows me that not only does
he have no talent, he was stupid. phile hartman was one of the nicest people
out there, chosing to live in a smaller town and getting to know a lot of the
people there, than living in the "high society." he has a lot of acting
range, and has shown a lot of it off in the numerous things he has done.
what pisses me off is the fact that you try to put them into the same acting
category. the next thing you will say is that hanson has as much musical
talent and song writing ability as the beatles.
aaron
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Is Phil Hartman one of the John's illigitimate brothers? Must be something
like that. Or if not, then WHY ARE WE TALKING ABOUT HIM ON THE TMBG MAILING
LIST?!?!?!?!?!??!?!?!?
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On Thu, 28 May 1998 BrthrJuan@aol.com wrote:
> In a message dated 5/28/98 4:35:16 PM Eastern Daylight Time, DrWormX@aol.com
> writes:
>
> > I am also
> > ashamed of the few people that said how he would be missed so much more
> than
> > Chris Farley; this statement really pissed me off.
>
> let it piss you off. chris farley had no acting talent at all. name one
> thing that he has done when he wasn;t screaming his head of and then falling
> down? i don;t think you can come up with anything, because he even did it in
> the comeheads movie. the fact that he overdosed shows me that not only does
> he have no talent, he was stupid. phile hartman was one of the nicest people
> out there, chosing to live in a smaller town and getting to know a lot of the
> people there, than living in the "high society." he has a lot of acting
> range, and has shown a lot of it off in the numerous things he has done.
>
> what pisses me off is the fact that you try to put them into the same acting
> category. the next thing you will say is that hanson has as much musical
> talent and song writing ability as the beatles.
We'll for teenagers they do have more talent that the Beatles as
teenagers! Judge Hanson in 7 years or so. For a bunch of kids theyt are
emmensely talented i look forward to seeing how they grow- although they
could not get anny better and be as mediocre as they are nopw for the next
3o years
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Subject: NON-TMBG: Re: Phil Hartman
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DrWormX@aol.com wrote:
>okay, the truth about phil is that his wife brin commited a homoside/suicide,
>killing phil, and herself...I am truly saddened by the loss. I am also
>ashamed of the few people that said how he would be missed so much more than
>Chris Farley; this statement really pissed me off.
>
>Matt- depressed and pissed off
>The few surviving samurai surveyed the battle field, they count the arms, the
>legs, and heads, and then divide by five
>http://members.aol.com/DrWormX
Ok, Matt also sent me a private e-mail telling me he felt I was
outta line for saying "I'm gonna miss him a LOT more than
Chris Farley". I wanted to publicly post what I wrote, just so
no one else is lurking and hating me....
"I'm sorry, I didn't mean to imply that I hated Chris Farley,
or that I'm gladder CF is dead than PH. It was a statement
of fact. I'm still seeing tributes to Chris Farley, people
talking about how wonderful he was, how sad, he was so
young and talented, etc. My point was only that Phil Hartman
was a LOT more visible -- The Simpsons, NewsRadio, several
series of commercials, movies... His departure will leave a
bigger hole, IMHO. I didn't mean to offend you. :\"
For the record, I thought Phil Hartman was funnier than Chris
Farley. His style of humor more closely matched my own. I
also think Linnell is sexier than Flansburgh, and nectarines are
tastier than plums. No one deserves to die young, any death
diminishes us all (who said that, originally?), and we can't
afford to lose funny people in particular. I hope that, if there
is an afterlife, Chris and Phil are hanging out and doing standup.
They shall both be missed, but different people will miss them in
different amounts.
I'm done now. Later, all...
-jennifer, mommy to alice the bean, 8/15/97
http://www.emprl.psu.edu/~anth/
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On Thu, 28 May 1998, Tim Clark wrote:
> Is Phil Hartman one of the John's illigitimate brothers? Must be something
> like that. Or if not, then WHY ARE WE TALKING ABOUT HIM ON THE TMBG MAILING
> LIST?!?!?!?!?!??!?!?!?
Tim,
I've only been on this list for a week but it seems to be one of
those lists where the list is more of a community of TMBG fans talking
about whatever Including TMBG!, than a list strangers talk about TMBG and
only TMBG.
And if you want to see more TMBG discussion on this list then
Poist about TMBG!! thats the only was to get what you want, bniotching
won't get you anywhere.
jason
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re: phil vs. chris, drop it. if anything drop it out of respect for the
dead. they were both great actors, and it sucks that they're dead, but
please stop comparing them. i admit phil was probably more talented, but
that doesn't mean there wasn't a place for farley's humor. ok, i'm having
trouble naming a skit or film which chris did that wasn't him shouting his
head off and then running through a wall, but i can't think of anyone who
did this better than farley, other than belushi.
oh, and for those of you who are new to the list, here's how it works: a
bunch of people post stuff. then somebody posts a non tmbg email. no big
deal. someone else posts another non tmbg email, and all the sudden
everyone on the list replies to it. then everyone bitches about how the
list is supposed to be for tmbg content only, and instead of a thread
starting about phil hartman, there's a thread about whether or not people
should be able to post nontmbg stuff. then it either dies out or leo, the
list administrator, starts monitoring the list. then tmbg or monopuff
releases a new album or goes on tour or changes their webpage, and the list
is back to normal, ready for another cycle of the same thing.
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On Thu, 28 May 1998, Tim Clark wrote:
> Is Phil Hartman one of the John's illigitimate brothers? Must be something
> like that. Or if not, then WHY ARE WE TALKING ABOUT HIM ON THE TMBG MAILING
> LIST?!?!?!?!?!??!?!?!?
(1) because tmbg fans tend to have much much much more in common than just
a passionate love for the music of They. such things tend to include some
combination of the following: saturday night live, conan o'brien, the
simpsons, moxy fruvous, liberal politics, the muppets, kids in the hall,
ben folds, barenaked ladies, swing dancing, extremely broad taste in music
and comedy, mono puff, and the list goes on and on. a love for tmbg
generally tends to go along with a certain worldview. i don't know how
long you've been on the list, but this mailing list has a tendency (far
more so than other mailing lists and newsgroups that i've encountered) to
be more of an extended, text-based family.
(2) the untimely and tragic demise of phil hartman is going to leave a
hole in a lot of lives. many people on this list included.
(3) i've heard kvetching about NON-TMBG posts before, (and usually found
such kvetching to be short-sighted,) but come on. a man was just murdered.
a very decent, talented man who seems to have led a very good life free
from many of the problems that affect other famous people. show a little
respect for the dead. now is not the time.
--jim kuemmerle
j.kuemmerle@m.cc.utah.edu
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>loss. I am
>also
>ashamed of the few people that said how he would be missed so much
>more than
>Chris Farley; this statement really pissed me off.
thank you. I'm so very glad someone said this.
>and Chris made the stupid mistake of overdosing.
> I mean, doesn't that say it all
geez, before i start ranting i must ask myself if people are just
ignorant or oblivious... i could get into an entire conversation about
being an alcoholic and how YOU CAN'T HELP IT but i'll stop there. I have
so little respect for people that think that alcoholic's can control
their behavior... i'm disapointed in the integrity of the list all of the
sudden. Contrary to the rest of you (i spose), i have respect for Chris
farley for living as long as he did with all his problems... it's more
than a lot of my friends managed to do and they probably had half of
chris' problems.
> the fact that he overdosed shows me that not only does
>he have no talent, he was stupid.
i'm begining to feel... almost... sorry for you people. i don't know
what it is but i can't believe half the crap that's being posted to this
list.
i'm finding you to be rather uninformed (stupid) at this point... or else
very naive. until you are yourself an alcoholic or have spent large
amounts of time with one (and even so i don't think it's the same) you
could never understand. But your comments strike me as naive in that you
don't even try to understand.
> the next thing you will say is that hanson has as
>much musical talent and song writing ability
>as the beatles.
(my dear god, i'm standing up for hanson)... i would just like to say to
the listie that posted this comment and the one above, i find you to be
extremely shallow, unintelligent, and very naive. (now that i'm making
enemies)...
If you go triple platinum with a single album you gotta have some sort of
talent... i don't care what you think but teeny-bopper looks can't ride
that far. The same thing with chris farley... he did have talent, so
what if the majority of the population believes it was limited to getting
extremely red faced and screaming like a maniac... he did it better than
i'm sure you ever could do.
just like hanson can probably sing a hell of a lot better than you ever
could. to say that someone has NO talent at all is just embarrasing
yourself... you have some issues...
>And if you want to see more TMBG discussion on this
>list then Poist about TMBG!! thats the only was to get
>what you want, bniotching won't get you anywhere.
kid, you say you've been on the list a week? ah there's hope for the
future..
take it easy, JOrdaN
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On Thu, 28 May 1998, J. L. Moquin wrote:
> No one deserves to die young, any death diminishes us all (who said
> that, originally?), and we can't afford to lose funny people in
> particular.
john donne.
*****
Who casts not up his eye to the sun when it rises? but who takes off his
eye from a comet when that breaks out? Who bends not his ear to any bell
which upon any occasion rings? but who can remove it from that bell which
is passing a piece of himself out of this world? No man is an island,
entire of itself; every man is a piece of the continent, a part of the
main. If a clod be washed away by the sea, Europe is the less, as well
as if a promontory were, as well as if a manor of thy friend's or of thine
own were: any man's death diminishes me, because I am involved in mankind,
and therefore never send to know for whom the bell tolls; it tolls for
thee.
-- from "Devotions upon Emergent Occasions", 1623.
*****
> I hope that, if there is an afterlife, Chris and Phil are hanging out
> and doing standup.
well said, jennifer.
--jim kuemmerle
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In a message dated 5/28/98 6:09:14 PM Eastern Daylight Time, BrthrJuan writes:
> ok, let me start this off by saying...i will think whatever the fuck i want
> to. personally pakistan and india have nothing to do with me so oh well.
> this country is so fucked up trying to solve everyone elses problems, they
> forget about the ones here. dr. worm or whatever his name was said that he
> is pissed at me for saying that chris farley has no talent, and it is true.
> he put them into the same category, not me. and i chose to show no
compasion
> to those who one, never did anything to make me want to like them, and two,
> overdosed on highballs.
It's sad life you live, isn't it? That's all I'm going to say. Originally I
was going to flame you or something stupid like that, but I just finished The
Catcher in the Rye and I think I don't want to go around dwelling on bad
things right now. Anyway, I hope you get better.
-Your cousin called Monotreme
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In a message dated 5/28/98 6:09:14 PM Eastern Daylight Time, BrthrJuan
writes:
> ok, let me start this off by saying...i will think whatever the fuck i
want
> to. personally pakistan and india have nothing to do with me so oh well.
> this country is so fucked up trying to solve everyone elses problems,
they
> forget about the ones here. dr. worm or whatever his name was said that
he
> is pissed at me for saying that chris farley has no talent, and it is
true.
> he put them into the same category, not me. and i chose to show no
compasion
> to those who one, never did anything to make me want to like them, and
two,
> overdosed on highballs.
too bad i can't write to the original poster of this message, but since the
address of his is lost, i'll just post it here. pakistan and india have
nothing do do with you? ok, news flash: india just got nukes. pakistan
won't wait long to get their hands on their own nukes. i'm sure that when
the mushroom cloud from an indian atomic bomb is blooming in your backyard,
in the brief time you have left before you are fried, you'll rethink your
statement on the extent of india's impact on you. or wait until a
pakistanian terrorist threatens to detonate a nuke unless america gives him
half of its GNP, or all of its fresh water. how about if pakistan and
india get into a nuclear war and the blowout creates a nuclear winter that
covers half the planet? i don't want to sound like some doomsday prophet,
but this stuff could happen. and if an atomic bomb is going to go off,
i'll bet it's going to come from a developing country, and not the US. and
if one bomb is dropped, count on at least two more being dropped. well,
whoever wrote that letter, enjoy your right to be stupid as long as it
lasts.
jer
ps--i have NO clue what any of this has to do with either phil hartman or
tmbg.
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On Thu, 28 May 1998 BrthrJuan@aol.com wrote:
> all offense intended, chris farley was not even 1/1,000,000 of the talent that
> phil hartman was. all chris can do is yell and get hit with things....
>
> phil hartman actually had talent, and he will truely be missed.
Chris Farley will truly be missed too. Not necessarily because
he had legions of die-hard fans, or because comic genius brimmed over his
edges... But because by all accounts he was a sweet guy, wonderful and
cooperative to work with, a hard worker, unpretentious, and unegotistical.
He loved his friends, and appreciated his fans and his fame and money.
-Chris Stangl
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Um...I really didn't want to post on this subject, but nearly everybody is
talking about how funny or talented he was and how much he will be missed
for these reasons. I mean...yea...I will miss his characters I guess but
lets get focused here. The tragedy is that there are two young children
without parents whose lives are going to be fucked up by this. In the big
picture the public's loss is nothing compared to their loss
Josh
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what I also noticed was that when farley and hartman were working together on
SNL, Farley was the first introducedby Don Pardo in the credits, and Hartman
was the second, which sort of freaks me out a little.
Matt- now just depressed, and a little scared for mike myers's life (#3)
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legs, and heads, and then divide by five
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>>and Chris made the stupid mistake of overdosing.
>> I mean, doesn't that say it all
>
>geez, before i start ranting i must ask myself if people are just
>ignorant or oblivious... i could get into an entire conversation
>about being an alcoholic and how YOU CAN'T HELP IT but i'll stop
>there. I have so little respect for people that think that
>alcoholic's can control their behavior... i'm disapointed in the
>integrity of the list all of the sudden. Contrary to the rest of you
>(i spose), i have respect for Chris farley for living as long as he
>did with all his problems... it's more than a lot of my friends
>managed to do and they probably had half of chris' problems.
>
Sorry, guess I sounded a little mean there, Chris Farley was a great
actor, there are so many of his skits that I treasure and lock up tight
in my memory banks. But I see a death from murder as being sadder than a
death from an overdose. I mean Phil probably had 30-50 years ahead of
him, while Farley, had he survived the particular drug episode, probably
would not have been very healthy, ANYONE who does ALOT of drugs, probably
won't LIVE very long. That doesn't mean I have less respect for the guy.
However I have hardly any respect for my father who is an alcoholic,
I've met nice alcoholics, silly alcoholics, and mean alcoholics. I like
Farley, he was nice and silly. My dad on the other hand is conceited and
mean (but I must admit I still love the guy, otherwise I'd be lyeing) but
I'm sick of people telling me to feel sorry for my father, it was his own
damn fault. Hopefully I made myself clear this time, and didn't cause
any more trouble...Ho hum
Mysterio Gal (fellow Subgenius & Happy Mutant)
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Everybody would die"
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what I also noticed was that when farley and hartman were working together on
SNL, Farley was the first introducedby Don Pardo in the credits, and Hartman
was the second, which sort of freaks me out a little.
Matt- now just depressed, and a little scared for mike myers's life (#3)
The few surviving samurai surveyed the battle field, they count the arms, the
legs, and heads, and then divide by five
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First my Excellent suggestion: Is it possible to get certain persons banished
forever from the list? I ask this because that certain list-member to remain
nameless who was arguing with me like a FOOL is one of the most ignorant
people that I have EVER SEEN IN MY LIFE, and I think that he/she should be
expelled from this list. We could even do it democratically, and have a
vote...
Now for the TMBG content: Did anyone ever notice on Baseball Tonight (on
ESPN) that one of the musics that they play sounds strikingly like Meet James
Ensor?
Matt- the most irritated he's EVER BEEN
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Jish wrote:
>Um...I really didn't want to post on this subject, but nearly everybody is
>talking about how funny or talented he was and how much he will be missed
>for these reasons. I mean...yea...I will miss his characters I guess but
>lets get focused here. The tragedy is that there are two young children
>without parents whose lives are going to be fucked up by this. In the big
>picture the public's loss is nothing compared to their loss
>
>Josh
This is horribly true... When I first heard he was dead, and
posted my little post that started all this crap (and for that I
apologize, BTW), I didn't know any of the details surrounding
his death. Now that I do, I'm much more upset, and hurting
for his children. As a mother myself, I can't even imagine such
a situation. :( I heard they were 6 and 9, were they boys?
girls? one of each? Just curious...
-jennifer, mommy to alice the bean, 8/15/97
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To: BrthrJuan@aol.com <BrthrJuan@aol.com>
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Date: Thursday, May 28, 1998 6:05 PM
Subject: Re: TMBG: Phil Hartman
:On Thu, 28 May 1998 BrthrJuan@aol.com wrote:
:
:> In a message dated 5/28/98 4:35:16 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
DrWormX@aol.com
:> writes:
:>
:> > I am also
:> > ashamed of the few people that said how he would be missed so much
more
:> than
:> > Chris Farley; this statement really pissed me off.
:>
:> let it piss you off. chris farley had no acting talent at all. name one
:> thing that he has done when he wasn;t screaming his head of and then
falling
:> down? i don;t think you can come up with anything, because he even did
it in
:> the comeheads movie. the fact that he overdosed shows me that not only
does
:> he have no talent, he was stupid. phile hartman was one of the nicest
people
:> out there, chosing to live in a smaller town and getting to know a lot of
the
:> people there, than living in the "high society." he has a lot of acting
:> range, and has shown a lot of it off in the numerous things he has done.
Farley was good for what he was...a physical actor. I'll miss Phil more
since I like the more cerebral brand of comedy. The subtle undertones of
Hartman's comedy is what makes it so funny...you have to think about much of
it, much like Dennis Miller. Farley was right in your face. They're
different styles, that's all. Whatever floats your boat, I guess. I think
I was more shocked at Phil's death; you hardley expect anyone famous to be
murded (save maybe Tupac). I think many people saw Farley's death
coming....it seemed that he just got bigger and bigger every time you saw
him (Newt Gingrich was the same way for a while).
:> what pisses me off is the fact that you try to put them into the same
acting
:> category. the next thing you will say is that hanson has as much musical
:> talent and song writing ability as the beatles.
:
:We'll for teenagers they do have more talent that the Beatles as
:teenagers! Judge Hanson in 7 years or so. For a bunch of kids theyt are
:emmensely talented i look forward to seeing how they grow- although they
:could not get anny better and be as mediocre as they are nopw for the next
:3o years
My Hanson theory: Hanson is the next Bee Gees.
Take a look...there are some big similarities.
Jack Bergeron idiotnot@visi.net bluedawg@tmbg.org
http://www.monopuff.org/~bluedawg
"As the light changed from red to green to yellow and back to
red again, I sat there thinking about life. Was it nothing
more than a bunch of honking and yelling? Sometimes it seemed that
way."--Jack Handy
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In a message dated 5/28/98 6:02:09 PM, cpdog@rma.edu wrote:
>Is Phil Hartman one of the John's illigitimate brothers? Must be something
>
>like that. Or if not, then WHY ARE WE TALKING ABOUT HIM ON THE TMBG MAILING
>
>LIST?!?!?!?!?!??!?!?!?
that is a horribly cold thing to say. have some compassion! delete the mail if
you don't want to read it. it happens to be a big thing. and many of us loved
him.
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On Thu, 28 May 1998 DrWormX@aol.com wrote:
% First my Excellent suggestion: Is it possible to get certain persons banished
% forever from the list? I ask this because that certain list-member to remain
% nameless who was arguing with me like a FOOL is one of the most ignorant
% people that I have EVER SEEN IN MY LIFE, and I think that he/she should be
% expelled from this list. We could even do it democratically, and have a
% vote...
Please don't be an ass. That was entirely unneccessary. Let's just put
the Hartman/Farley thing behind us, eh? I'll attempt to summarize in such
a way that we can all agree and get over this.
(1) They're both dead. (2) Death sucks. (3) Loss of comedic talent also
sucks. (4) These two deaths resulted in a loss of an amount of comedic
talent over which certain people on this list may disagree. Regardless of
the actual talent levels involved, some talent was lost, so this sucks
under both (2) and (3). (5) Talking about things that interest many of us
does not neccessarily suck, even if the topics are not the nominal topics
of the list. (6) Letting stuff in (5) take over the list DOES suck. (7)
TMBG does not suck.
Good enough?
% Matt- the most irritated he's EVER BEEN
Hopefully you will become less irritated as time goes on, and return to
being a productive member of society. I hope you acheived a neccessary
and satisfying catharsis.
ObTMBG: I am overjoyed to have just recently obtained Factory Showroom
and discovered that it is, in fact, the best album by TMBG or anyone else
since forever.
--
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On Thu, 28 May 1998 21:48:17 EDT DrWormX@aol.com writes:
>First my Excellent suggestion: Is it possible to get certain persons
>banished
>forever from the list? I ask this because that certain list-member to
>remain
>nameless who was arguing with me like a FOOL is one of the most
>ignorant
>people that I have EVER SEEN IN MY LIFE, and I think that he/she
>should be
>expelled from this list.
heh... okay, i just find this highly amusing...
my goal on mailing lists is to start controversies and get in these huge
arguments over absolutely nothing (so long as it's somewhat relevant)...
it tends to keep the lists busy. (and a busy list is a happy list).
and i know i'm not the only one, there's like a whole underground
conspiracy on this list alone just to get some action on it...
> We could even do it democratically, and have
>a
>vote...
i think everyone has something intelligent to say and even if it takes
them several thousand posts to get it out, i think it's worth it letting
them stay on just to hear something worthwhile come out of 'em...
hell, if we kicked people off because they posted irrelevant crap, mike
leffel would have been gone in a second... do you guys not remember how
much everyone hated him posting? how people made him limit his posts to
1 a day?
>Matt- the most irritated he's EVER BEEN
take a deep breath... a mailing list is nothing ot get all hot and heavy
about.
take it easy, JOrdaN
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as if i am not to know that i was the one that people wanted to toss off the
list? oh well, feel what you want to feel. there is a thing called free
speech, and i am still able to make use of that right.
about the whole chris farley/phil hartman thing...i still do not think that
anyone understands at all where i am coming from. phil hartman was a
wonderful man, with a great heart who helped out many, many people in his
time. chris farley was a crazed party man. i have no respect for anyone like
that, for a certain number of reasons...one of them being the fact that i am a
recovered drug abuser myself. i have lost all respect for people who abuse,
and especially to the point of overdosing. people tried to help him out, yet
he did not accept it at all. that was his first and last mistake. i have
been trying to help people recover, but you cannot show them sympathy. the
more you do, the more they will still feel like a victim and not the one with
the problem. yeah, you may miss him, but i will miss phil hartman an awful
lot more.
second, i am sick of all this hate mail to me saying that i am the most
ignorant person in the world...man oh man, i don;t even know how to start
attacking this one. in fact, i am not even going to bother. you all accused
me of being a psychotic hate monger without knowing any of the real story
behind my reasoning..who are the stupid ones now? still you may feel like i
am evil (and i do get that a lot), but hey, i am allowed to my opinions, as
you are too. next time you are going to yell at someone for something they
say, remember these simple facts -
1. make sure you knwo what you are talking about first
2. everyone is entitled to their opinions
3. if you try to take away that freedom, we would have a major world problem
on our hands. people with the "right" ideas will start to put the other peple
down, and then sooner or later we have another holocaust on our hands
thanks for trying to understand a little....
aaron
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From: "Harlan L. Landes" <spike@UDel.Edu>
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On Thu, 28 May 1998 BrthrJuan@aol.com wrote:
> let it piss you off. chris farley had no acting talent at all.
does this (an opinion of talent) have any bearing on whether his death is
as important as someone elses?
isn't it rather cruel to base the worth of his life on whether or not he
has acting talent? So what if he doesn't? So what if he's stupid for
doing drugs? Any death is sad (IMHO) -- especially any untimely death.
Maybe Chris brought it upon himself, but like I said, still sad.
back to lurking for me.
harlan
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SHUT UP!!!!!!!
It really rolls me that the people who are the most fervent about keeping the
list TMBG only (which is a pretty dumb idea, no offense, i just don't agree)
are the ones who keep posting all the time about it, thereby adding to the
clutter that they despise so much.
If you don't want to read posts that aren't about They Might Be Giants, then
don't read them...
The list should about people who like a band called They Might Be Giants,
consisting of two members, John Linnell and John Flansburg. These people on
this list like to post messages so other people on the list can read them, and
if they choose, they can post back, or they can post something of their own.
If they see some posts that they don't want to read, then they just delete
those posts, and read the ones they want to. These people are sort of like a
small community, they like to talk about what's going on in the community,
sometimes this doesn't involve the band called They Might Be Giants. Sometimes
they like to talk about other bands, like Moxy Fruvous, or Soul Coughing, or
Ben Folds Five. Sometimes, they even like to talk about completely unmusic
related topics, like movies, or books, or anything they want to. Sometimes in
a community, there are people with different opinions, and they should be able
to respect eachothers differences, or at least not publicly flog them because
of them. The community grows and prospers, and all are happy.
Thats just my two cents, and I apologize for the utopian free love kind of
feel to it, but hey, I'm reading 1984 and I need something to counterbalance
big brother...
Graham "Big Brother Is Watching You" Amsden
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to all:
woah.
my mind floods itself with an excess of thoughts, and i'm not sure quite
where to begin. my presence on this list is known, but not thoroughly
established; lazy lurkerhood is more appealing for the eternal slacker
that i am, and my hands don't often find themselves taking the time to
articulate that which my head would like. now, however, i see that this
world is in need of my services of arbitration--lest the cold war
approach the fire, so to speak.
due to my relative inexperience with the list--it couldn't be more than
a month and a half--i cannot claim complete expertise on its patterns,
but the following seems to be a vaguely accurate outline:
1) something significant takes place, affecting in some way several
list members.
2) the list is subsequently flooded with non-tmbg posts pertaining to
this event.
3) irritable tmbg purists take offense and complain, starting arguments
and unwittingly furthering off topic posting with their oft-heated
arguments that the list should not waver from talk of the johns.
4) things cool down for some reason or another, achieiving a temporary
state of normalcy; history repeats.
the unstable nature of this list is mostly due to what others before me
have pointed out: fans of the johns often seem to have many things in
common, perpetuating discussions in a great number of areas. the point
has been made that this list is not, indeed, a venue for talk of tmbg,
but one for tmbg members to commune ideas of any nature.
as whatever it began, it is now what it is, and i, in all truthfulness,
have not seen a more intelligent forum of discussion in quite a while.
if one is not joyfully entertained by that fact, unsubscription is a
simple procedure and i'm sure any experienced listee would be more than
happy to direct the process.
however, there is a certain point at which discussion becomes argument
and tact should prevail. personal opinions are like noses--pick your
own, yada yada--and, this list being what it is, the option must be
available to state your opinion without fear of a flame response. even
when it's one of "tmbg only."
arguing only wastes time.
keep it clean.
peace, love, and good happiness stuff,
jay.
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