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          tmbg-list Digest, Volume 22, Number 24

                 Sunday, 24 October 1999

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TMBG: Review/Setlist: Bowery Ballroom show, New York City, 10/22/99
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From: MuseKJ@aol.com
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Date: Sat, 23 Oct 1999 04:00:27 EDT
Subject: TMBG: Review/Setlist: Bowery Ballroom show, New York City, 10/22/99

I got to take a lot of notes tonight, because tonight was the first time I
was able to get a good table in the balcony, stage side Flans, which Barry
and I shared with a really nice guy named John (no, not either of those
Johns). I got in line really early tonight, and hung out talking with Jordan
(HallofEyes), Amanda (PookieLuck), JJR (John), TDK Mike, a young couple from
Boston, and I met the Rev. Kristina Panos and her male companion after the
show (hi you guys!) Shana was also there, showing us some pics of Wednesday's
show. Tom Brislin, lead singer of You Were Spiraling came over to talk to us
for a while (he's a really nice guy!) We saw Flans run down from the venue's
front door to his car that was parked around the corner a few times...the
last time bringing his Crown Vic in front of the venue, packing something
into the trunk (my husband thought maybe it was the drum machine?), then
taking off down busy Delancey St. (the street the venue is on).
Mrs. Linnell walked through the front door, and later came out with John
L...they walked quickly past the line of fans, being Linnellian, trying their
best to pretend we weren't there...they walked down to the corner (maybe to
get coffee or a bite to eat?), only to be cornered by a fan asking
questions...from what we could see, he was answering this person before he
and his wife crossed the street. During the concerts, Dan Hickey and Dan
Miller were hanging out on the Linnell side of the balcony during certain
parts of the evening.

Anyway, on with the program:

You Were Spiraling: I've got to tell you people...this band is getting better
and better...I think they've been fine-tuning things in the group while they
were on tour with TMBG. Sylvia (the violinist) was not with them tonight.
This band put on a show tonight that tells me they are finally ready for a
record contract. You record companies out there...this should be the next
band you think about signing! Besides their own songs, their covers of "Will
You Love Me Tomorrow?" and the one that shook the rafters at the end of their
set: their version of aha's "Take On Me" (Mr. Brislin carried that song's
difficult vocal ranges with amazing accuracy), earned the band a
foot-stomping demand for "one more song!" There wasn't time for that in the
schedule, though, and off they went.

TMBG:
Flans shocked the hell out of me tonight, because when the lights went up, he
was wearing a suit and tie! (The suit was tan, in case you're
wondering)..Linnell said
" *Now* we're a full band...as though we weren't crowded enough on stage as
it was."
Severe Tire Damage Theme, by The Velcro Horns, which now is a trio:
sax-player Stan Harrison, Dan Levine on trombone and euphonium (like a small
tuba), and Jim O'Connor on trumpet
Purple Toupee (yay!..full band, with Lin on keyboards, Dan Levine on
euphonium)
She's An Angel (full band, with Lin on accordion)
S-E-X-X-Y (yay again!...I knew this song would sound great tonight, and I
wasn't disappointed...Lin on keyboards)
Someone at this point shouted for the band to play a certain something, and
Linnell said "Wait for it!...Wait for it!" It sounded just like the way
Graham Chapman's military general character in Monty Python says those lines.
Particle Man (the full band tonight gave this song a beautifully refreshing
boost, with Dan Levine on the euphonium, Jim O'Connor on trumpet, Lin on
accordion, and an ending where the band really wailed...the sound of it all
put a smile on Mr. Linnell's face)
Birdhouse In Your Soul (full band, including the Velcro horns and Lin on
keyboards)
Shoehorn With Teeth (I loved this version of it...Dan Hickey on the
glockenspiel, Dan Levine on euphonium [which sounded fantastic on this song,
I might add], Stan Harrison on sax, Jim O'Connor on trumpet...the crowd was
going bananas)
Radio They Might Be Giants, Version One (no horns, full song, Lin on
keyboards)
Radio They Might Be Giants, Version Two (same setup as above, but a slow,
"Charlie Rich" country ballad version -- loved it!! Before they played it,
Flans told Dan Hickey he was playing too fast, and stated in a half-joking
manner: "Dan, you're always ready to rock...play it slower!")
Cyclops Rock (no horns, Lin on keyboards, good rockin' version of this
tonight!)
Spiraling Shape (no horns, Lin on keyboards), which went right into -->>>
Your Racist Friend (no horns for most of the song, but included a Jim
O'Connor trumpet solo)
Mr. Claw (no horns, seemed like an especially creepy version of this tonight,
Lin on keyboards)
James K. Polk (no horns, Lin on keyboards, with band bowing together toward
the audience at the end...since I was sitting in the balcony tonight (first
time I ever sat in the balcony for a TMBG show), I got to watch all the folks
below get showered with confetti, as the lights were turned completely
on...that was a LOT of fun to watch)
Older (Lin on keyboards, same speed changes with the guitar as in yesterday's
show, Lin sounded like he was scolding the audience as he sang "you're older
than you've ever been and now you're even older!" in the beginning part of
the song...Dan Hickey crossed his sticks over his head at one of the song's
pauses (maybe to show Flans just how much of an 80's style rocker he
is?)...there was less freeze-frame posing by the band members this evening,
Dan Miller and Danny Weinkauf did it a little bit during some of the pauses),
which went right into -->>>
Twisting (Flans yelling "Come on! Come on! during key moments in the
song...there was a "mad jam" sort of ending to this tonight), which went
right into -->>>
Why Does The Sun Shine? (Flans: "millions and millions of miles away, and
that's why it's in the sky," with Linnell continuing "but even though it's in
the sky, the sun shines night and day"...Flans: "people, women, ladies...the
sun contains estrogen, estrogen, estrogen, and more estrogen"...cute little
extra ending tacked onto the end of the song: basically just the same ending
repeated, only stronger)
Next, the horn section came back onstage, and Flans said "we're slowly moving
toward an all-horn world," as the next number involved just horns and his
vocals (no guitars, drums or bass):
Chess Piece Face (Velcro Horns & Lin on Baritone Sax...Flans included one
line of new lyrics: "All hail Chess Piece Face!")
Whistling In The Dark (this was fantastic!...Velcro Horns, Lin on accordion,
Flans on the big bass drum...Flans almost let someone in front of the stage
hit the big drum, but he later said "what a bad idea that is.")
She's Actual Size (with Flans "fuck-up": as he began to sing, he stopped,
walked over to Mr. Linnell saying "give me a key." John L. obliged by hitting
a note or two...Flans said "that's not helping," laughing a bit by now.
Linnell then played a tiny piece of mysterious incidental music for him, and
John F. got himself back on track -- but not before saying to the crowd: "You
should come see the show sometime...smooth!" :-) Tonight's version was very
slow, sultry, and lounge-y. There was a Dan Hickey drum solo included, where
Flans directed Mr. Hickey on which particular drum he wanted him to focus on
while he played, in improv/conducting fashion, Dan Levine was on euphonium
for this one. Ended with Flans directing the band in Dan-Dan-John-Dan style,
where he points at whomever he wants to hear play.
The Guitar (absolutely awesome, show-stopping version...Velcro Horns, Flans
on guitar, Lin fluctuated from bari sax to keyboards to bari sax, massive
strobe lighting during a part of it... at one point, Dan Miller and Danny
Weinkauf were playing alone, while the audience clapped along, which went
right into -->>>
Everybody Conga (Flans [singing]: "I'm not fucking kidding, say goodbye to
your ride home"...mass confusion, and a multitude of people all trying to
conga at once ensues...very fun to watch from above, in the balcony) which
went right into -->>>
No One Knows My Plan (Velcro Horns, Lin on keyboards, Flans on guitar...the
conga line is *still* going)
Afterward, Flans tells the audience "That was just a character, saying all
those fucks...I love you guys." Then he proceeded to tell us that LA didn't
seem to get the conga idea while they were performing out there...Dan Miller
leaves the stage.
Turn Around (slowed down, but with a distinct, measured beat, almost
metronome-ish...Velcro Horns, Lin on accordion, Flans on guitar, song cranked
out to a big horn-blasting finish)
Linnell at this time states that he believes that tonight was the best show
so far (of the Bowery shows, that is)
Dr. Worm (excellent!...Velcro Horns, Lin on accordion, Flans on guitar...Lin
sings "I'm a wo-o-orm, yeah!" again tonight during the song...Dan Levine used
the euphonium to play that big "Bwah!!" toward the end of the song...Lin
includes a sweet little accordion solo even closer to the ending, and it was
this big powerful butt-kicking finish.

Encore:
Spy (I'll tell you, when I heard how this sounded tonight, I almost had to
ask my husband to pinch me, because I thought I had died and gone to
heaven...words can't nearly express how it sounded...full band, Lin on Bari
Sax, totally gangbusters, all-out, sweep-the-floor-with-you version...I felt
like I was in this totally rockin' jazz club for a while there, and it was
New Year's or something :-) Great improv with *both* Johns conducting the
full band.
Istanbul: intro was Dan Levine on trombone, Jim O'Connor on trumpet, Lin
doing light back-up with the keyboards...the music they were playing had a
very atmospheric sound to it...Latin version of song with full band (sounded
wonderful!), Velcro Horns bopping back and forth to the music at one point,
Lin on keyboards... sped up, powerful, finale-style finish, followed by
everyone leaving the stage except for the Velcro Horns, who played a
beautiful, soft piece to wrap up the show.

All in all, a fantastic evening!

Karen :-)
MuseKJ@aol.com

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From: "jEsSiCa Schleiger" <alien3xa51@hotmail.com>
Subject: TMBG: Re: TMBG Tattoos
Date: Sat, 23 Oct 1999 07:48:47 MDT

>Well, mine don't have anything to do with TMBG, but I've got a red
>rosebud
>on the outside of my left ankle and a celtic knot done in a bunch of
>colors
>on the inside of my left ankle.  I'm very happy with them both and I
>love to
>show them off. :)

Cool beans--I love Celtic designs!  I so understand the feeling!  I have a
"spiraling shape" on my upper back (very colorful), and a question mark
(remarkably resembling the one in the "don't let's start" video) on my right
ankle (very b&w).  I love them because I know what they refer to, but to
people who don't know me, they just look like designs....I also have a
non-TMBG tat on my left ankle...I adore them all! :)

jeSsia
Borrowing a famous sig line:
"Professionally inked since 1837."

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Date: Fri, 22 Oct 1999 22:08:16 -0400
Subject: Re: TMBG: Review/Setlist: Bowery Ballroom show, New York City, 10/22/99
Message-ID: <19991022.221543.-646341.0.hotel_detective1@juno.com>
From: Capn eriKa rae <hotel_detective1@juno.com>

>euphonium (like a small
>tuba),

It's a concert version of a baritone! It actually sounds a lot more
like trombone/french horn concoction.

ever-sincere,
eriKa,
nobody cares, but i play it!
-- just have to prove i'm still here every now and again.

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cool." - Ben Folds
"Actually, I just like to saying smock. Smock smock smock smock smock
smock!" - Hobbes

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Date: Sat, 23 Oct 1999 22:11:49 -0400
From: "Joe Teagno" <joe.teagno@mail.rit.edu>
Message-ID: <7utptg$hme$1@ussenterprise.ufp.org>
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology
Subject: TMBG: Which songs will be on the next album?

Hi, everybody.  I was just listening to some MP3s of a few lives shows, I
started wondering which songs of theirs they said they would put on their
next album, and which ones would probably wind up there anyway.  Here is
what I have come up with so far:

Cyclops Rock
Thunderbird

(There was one other one, but I forgot what it was! :) )

Can anybody help me out on this one?  Maybe it's not even worth speculating
what'll be there (especially since we have more important State-Songs-type
of things to do in a few days...)

Joe
joe.teagno@mail.rit.edu
http://members.xoom.com/flophousejoe/

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From: Tmbg4life@aol.com
Message-ID: <0.ae24ba3d.2543cd32@aol.com>
Date: Sat, 23 Oct 1999 22:47:14 EDT
Subject: Re: TMBG: Which songs will be on the next album?

I think on the TMBGradio they said older was suposed to be on the next album
tentatively title "Unreliable Narrator"

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Message-ID: <19991024030550.34711.qmail@hotmail.com>
From: "eRiCh Cannon" <pimpbot60@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: TMBG: Which songs will be on the next album?
Date: Sat, 23 Oct 1999 20:05:49 PDT

>Cyclops Rock
>Thunderbird

On the Drag
It's So Loud in Here
Older
Edith Head

Im not sure why the last two are but they said, they said.

-=eRiCh=-

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From: "Nathan Mulac DeHoff" <xornom@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: TMBG: Which songs will be on the next album?
Date: Sat, 23 Oct 1999 21:03:25 PDT

eRiCh Cannon wrote:
>>Cyclops Rock
>>Thunderbird
>
>On the Drag
>It's So Loud in Here
>Older
>Edith Head

Finished With Lies
Hovering Sombrero (never played live, as far as I know)

"Working Undercover For The Man," "Rest Awhile," and "Unreliable Narrator"
(which Flans mentioned in the online chat as his favourite TMBG song, but
which has not been heard) are probably all contenders for the album.  "4 Of
2" probably won't be on there, but we can always hope.  Of course, the track
listing will not be confirmed for some time, and we don't know for sure what
will be on there.  Something recorded for the album might well end up as a
B-side or a reject (witness the Factory Showroom sessions).
--
Yours 'til my head falls off,
Nathan
DinnerBell@tmbg.org
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Date: Sun, 24 Oct 1999 00:34:34 -0400
From: "Joe Teagno" <joe.teagno@mail.rit.edu>
Message-ID: <7uu295$lu1$1@ussenterprise.ufp.org>
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology
Subject: Re: TMBG: Which songs will be on the next album?

> Of course, the track
> listing will not be confirmed for some time, and we don't know for sure
what
> will be on there.  Something recorded for the album might well end up as a
> B-side or a reject (witness the Factory Showroom sessions).

That's a really good point.  If we assume temporarily that Factory Showroom
was the last "real" album (STD was mostly old stuff, just live; LTW was
mostly stuff that we'd already heard from other sources), it would have been
nearly impossible for us to know what was going to be on FS before getting
an official track list.  Sure, they were doing "Older", "Counterfeit Faker",
and other songs from it before it was released, but those two, for example,
were cut from the official album.

So what I'm trying to say is this: wouldn't it be really nice if we got an
album full of studio recordings of the stuff that we love like Working
Undercover for the Man, Thunderbird, Cyclops, I'm Sick, and all that sort of
stuff?  Then, in addition to that, we'd get a second album full of the stuff
that we haven't even heard yet, but we will anyway, because we love the
Johns! :)  After that, they'd come over to our place for pizza!

Joe
joe.teagno@mail.rit.edu
http://members.xoom.com/flophousejoe/ <-- Which is down right now. :(

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