Errors-To: owner-tmbg-digest@tmbg.org Reply-To: tmbg-digest@tmbg.org Sender: owner-tmbg-digest@tmbg.org Precedence: bulk From: owner-tmbg-digest@tmbg.org To: tmbg-digest@tmbg.org Subject: tmbg-list Digest, Volume 40, Number 10 tmbg-list Digest, Volume 40, Number 10 Wednesday, 11 April 2001 Topics: TMBG: TMBG: Awwwwwww!!! Re: TMBG: www.theymightbegiants.com and McSweeney's Re: TMBG: Awwwwwww!!! TMBG: McSweeny's on the tmbg catalog Re: TMBG: Awwwwwww!!! TMBG: Re: Hash Pipe and Mr Xcitement TMBG: Mr. Xcitement Re: TMBG: Re: Hash Pipe and Mr Xcitement TMBG: Apologoy Re: TMBG: Re: Hash Pipe and Mr Xcitement Re: TMBG: UNLIMITED USERS! Re:TMBG: Apologoy TMBG: Next Album RE: TMBG: Next Album TMBG: Re: Next Album Re: TMBG: Next Album RE: TMBG: Next Album Re: TMBG: Next Album Re: TMBG: Re: Next Album Re: TMBG: Next Album TMBG: Albums are stupid and I hope they die. TMBG: Oops... TMBG: Re: Albums are stupid and I hope they die. TMBG: Naming the Album Re: TMBG: Albums are stupid and I hope they die. Re: TMBG: Re: Hash Pipe and Mr Xcitement Re: TMBG: Re: Hash Pipe and Mr Xcitement Re: TMBG: Re: Hash Pipe and Mr Xcitement Re: TMBG: Albums are stupid and I hope they die. Administrivia: For all administrative issues, such as change of address, withdrawal from the list, etc., send a message to the following address: ÁÁowner-tmbg-digest@tmbg.org The views expressed herein are those of the individual authors. tmbg-list is compiled with Digest 3.7b (John Relph ). ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2001 23:56:21 -0700 From: "Erich" Subject: TMBG: Message-ID: <001701c0c18b$59ce96a0$ea4d0041@sttln1.wa.home.com> www.theymightbegiants.com is updated with some cool info on the upcoming album. Check it totally out! Erich ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 04:20:34 -0700 From: "Erich Cannon" Subject: TMBG: Awwwwwww!!! Message-ID: So Im sitting here listening to Mr. Xcitement and TOTALLY DIGGIN IT!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!!!! is there anyone with me here? Its a good song. alot of you people talk about it like its the scum of the earth, the rotten tomato the bad apple of the bunch to spoil the rest. But I DONT! Whats wrong? Not melodic enough for you? Gotta have verse chorus verse? I suppose those who hate it must not really like Soul Coughing as its alot like SC and less like TMBG. to each his own but I was just wondering if I was alone in the liking of aaaaaaaAAAAAWWWWWWWW MR XCITMENT!! Erich ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 09:03:29 -0400 From: "Kristin ." Subject: Re: TMBG: www.theymightbegiants.com and McSweeney's Message-ID: Also, if all other sources fail - you can order McSweeney's from the site! >From: "Erich" >Reply-To: "Erich" >To: >Subject: TMBG: >Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2001 23:56:21 -0700 > >www.theymightbegiants.com is updated with some cool info on the upcoming >album. Check it totally out! > >Erich > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 09:11:43 -0400 From: "lees" Subject: Re: TMBG: Awwwwwww!!! Message-ID: <200104100911.AA158335042@megahits.com> I'm with you Erich. I think it's pretty darn cool. ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- From: "Erich Cannon" Reply-To: "Erich Cannon" Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 04:20:34 -0700 >So Im sitting here listening to Mr. Xcitement and TOTALLY DIGGIN IT!!! >HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!!!! is there anyone with me here? Its a good song. >alot of you people talk about it like its the scum of the earth, the rotten >tomato the bad apple of the bunch to spoil the rest. But I DONT! Whats >wrong? Not melodic enough for you? Gotta have verse chorus verse? I suppose >those who hate it must not really like Soul Coughing as its alot like SC and >less like TMBG. to each his own but I was just wondering if I was alone in >the liking of aaaaaaaAAAAAWWWWWWWW MR XCITMENT!! > >Erich > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 09:15:01 -0400 From: the hanged man Subject: TMBG: McSweeny's on the tmbg catalog Message-ID: <4.2.0.58.20010410091356.017ce4a0@oscar.cc.gatech.edu> Did anyone else notice that the McSweeny's is in the tmbg online catalog? And should we trust such a thing to deliver when we order? -- -=Matt Brown=- GaTech undergrad cs1050 TA | web: http://thm.askee.net/dynamic/ | "Every Day is a Good Day" email: thehangedman@death-star.com | -Zen Proverb AIM: THM42 ICQ: 10933909 | ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 09:47:40 EDT From: Furfr@aol.com Subject: Re: TMBG: Awwwwwww!!! Message-ID: <4d.a19af1f.280468fc@aol.com> No, I loved it the first time I heard it on dial-a-song. I thought I was the only one! furfr In a message dated 4/10/01 7:23:23 AM Eastern Daylight Time, mrminiwheat60@hotmail.com writes: > So Im sitting here listening to Mr. Xcitement and TOTALLY DIGGIN IT!!! > HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!!!! is there anyone with me here? Its a good song. > alot of you people talk about it like its the scum of the earth, the rotten > tomato the bad apple of the bunch to spoil the rest. But I DONT! Whats > wrong? Not melodic enough for you? Gotta have verse chorus verse? I suppose > those who hate it must not really like Soul Coughing as its alot like SC and > less like TMBG. to each his own but I was just wondering if I was alone in > the liking of aaaaaaaAAAAAWWWWWWWW MR XCITMENT!! > > Erich > > > ----------------------- Headers -------------------------------- > Return-Path: > Received: from rly-zc01.mx.aol.com (rly-zc01.mail.aol.com [172.31.33.1]) by > air-zc03.mail.aol.com (v77_r1.36) with ESMTP; Tue, 10 Apr 2001 07:23:23 1900 > Received: from ussenterprise.ufp.org (ussenterprise.ufp.org [208.185.30.210] > ) by rly-zc01.mx.aol.com (v77_r1.36) with ESMTP; Tue, 10 Apr 2001 07:22:59 - > 0400 > Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) > by ussenterprise.ufp.org (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f3ABKmU37693; > Tue, 10 Apr 2001 07:20:48 -0400 (EDT) > (envelope-from owner-tmbg-list) > Received: by ussenterprise.ufp.org (bulk_mailer v1.13); Tue, 10 Apr 2001 07: > 20:48 -0400 > Received: (from majordom@localhost) > by ussenterprise.ufp.org (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f3ABKm337685 > for tmbg-list-outgoing; Tue, 10 Apr 2001 07:20:48 -0400 (EDT) > (envelope-from owner-tmbg-list@tmbg.org) > Received: from hotmail.com (oe16.pav1.hotmail.com [64.4.30.120]) > by ussenterprise.ufp.org (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f3ABKl037677 > for ; Tue, 10 Apr 2001 07:20:47 -0400 (EDT) > (envelope-from mrminiwheat60@hotmail.com) > Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; > Tue, 10 Apr 2001 04:20:41 -0700 > X-Originating-IP: [24.4.254.155] > From: "Erich Cannon" > To: > References: <9a367s$4b2$1@ussenterprise.ufp.org> > Subject: TMBG: Awwwwwww!!! > Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 04:20:34 -0700 > MIME-Version: 1.0 > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > X-Priority: 3 > X-MSMail-Priority: Normal > X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 > X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 > Message-ID: > X-OriginalArrivalTime: 10 Apr 2001 11:20:41.0915 (UTC) FILETIME=[4730A8B0: > 01C0C1B0] > Sender: owner-tmbg-list@tmbg.org > Reply-To: "Erich Cannon" > > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 10:48:58 -0400 From: "Jon" Subject: TMBG: Re: Hash Pipe and Mr Xcitement Message-ID: <003001c0c1cd$607af060$10450241@wall1.pa.home.com> Mike, First off, no need for language. It doesn't make your argument any stronger or make you look any more intelligent. I honestly do not believe that TMBG is losing money because of me, jon jenkins, allowing people to download TMBGU tracks off Napster. First, I've only ever seen about 10 people DL TMBGU tracks off Napster from me, and the majority of the time they only grab 3 or 4 of the more popular or well known/talked about ones to see what all the fuss is about. There have been occasions where a person has downloaded every single song from a particular month; maybe 3 or 4 times. More than likely these people would not have paid for the subscription service anyway, so TMBG is not losing money from those people. Mike, I really do feel bad that I've upset you so much. I can understand why someone would have such strong feelings over such an issue such as you do, but arguing over a matter such as this is like debating over the abortion issue. It's almost impossible to have a intelligent, sensible discussion because both sides have strong feelings bakcing up their even stronger opinions. So, if you wouldn't mind, I think we should just politely 'agree to disagree' Thanks for letting me know what you think; i really do appreciate hearing from you. JenkiJon ~"For the first time, in that night alive with signs and stars, I opened myself to the gentle indifference of the world."~ Albert Camus ----- Original Message ----- From: The Demonic Kangaroo To: Jon Sent: Monday, April 09, 2001 9:12 PM Subject: Re: Hash Pipe and Mr Xcitement I was not talking about you dowloading TMBGU files, I'm talking about you distributing them to other people. So you enjoying fucking over TMBG, slapping them in the face every time someone downloads a TMBGU file from you? ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 10:52:28 EDT From: EmarZero@aol.com Subject: TMBG: Mr. Xcitement Message-ID: This is TMBG? Huh. Whatever works, I suppose. I'm not surprised, I mean, They've been experimenting with all sorts of new sounds lately, so an electronic track is nothing big. (Although I *much* more prefer the recent ska/punk flavored tracks like "Boss of Me" & "Cyclops Rock...") ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 11:09:31 -0400 From: "Jon" Subject: TMBG: Apologoy Message-ID: <001001c0c1d0$3eedbce0$10450241@wall1.pa.home.com> Sorry about that e-mail that got sent to the entire list. It was supposed to have only gone to one person. jenkijon ~"For the first time, in that night alive with signs and stars, I opened myself to the gentle indifference of the world."~ Albert Camus ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 11:07:51 EDT From: Kaylum@aol.com Subject: Re: TMBG: Re: Hash Pipe and Mr Xcitement Message-ID: I'm with Mike and Mario; you can't just assume that people who download the songs for free from you on Napster wouldn't subscribe if that was the only way they could hear them. And let's not forget that a lot of these songs are previews of stuff that is or will be available in stores, and who knows if those people might decide not to buy them because they got them for free (and aren't rabid enough fans like we are to pay for them again )? Kay ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 11:38:03 -0400 From: Subject: Re:TMBG: Apologoy Message-ID: <0104109869.AA986917091@smtplink.sterl.com> Apologoy?? What does this have to do with Judeo-Christian ethnicity??? And what would the opposite of an apologoy be, an apolojew? Karin H ** FREE THE EXPO 67 ** ____________________Reply Separator____________________ Subject: TMBG: Apologoy Author: "Jon" Date: 04/10/01 11:09 AM Sorry about that e-mail that got sent to the entire list. It was supposed to have only gone to one person. jenkijon ~"For the first time, in that night alive with signs and stars, I opened myself to the gentle indifference of the world."~ Albert Camus
Sorry about that e-mail that got sent to the entire list.  It was supposed to have only gone to one person.
 
jenkijon
~"For the first time, in that night alive with signs and stars, I opened myself to the gentle indifference of the world."~ Albert Camus
------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 13:10:17 -0700 (PDT) From: Jason Fickley Subject: TMBG: Next Album Message-ID: <20010410201017.46311.qmail@web13606.mail.yahoo.com> Anyone else notice the partial tracklist of the next album? "Bangs", "I've Got A Fang," "Cyclops Rock," "Finished With Lies," "It's So Loud In Here," "Yeh Yeh," "Another First Kiss," ""My Man," "She Thinks She's Edith Head," "Older," and many other new songs and current show favorites. Why, oh why are there so many damn tracks on there that are both old news and available from TMBGU or other legitimate sources (What We Did Last Summer, etc.)? It's starting to look like TMBGU subscribers will have only 3 or 4 NEW songs to look forward to on the next album. Who knows? Maybe ALL of the tracks will have been available from TMBGU by the time the album comes out. What I'm trying to say is, tracks that are from the next album should have been saved FOR THE ALBUM and not placed on samplers and emusic months or even years ahead of time. --Jason-- __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 16:36:29 -0400 (EDT) From: damek@earthling.net Subject: RE: TMBG: Next Album Message-ID: <0104101636292B.11962@weba4.iname.net> It seems to me that plenty of material from previous albums was available "months or even years ahead of time" via Dial-A-Song. What's the difference? Sure, MP3s are easier to record and copy, and they're better quality, but they're still not the same as an actual CD release, and I know I look forward to having a new actual album, no matter the material. > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-tmbg-list@tmbg.org [mailto:owner-tmbg-list@tmbg.org]On > Behalf Of Jason Fickley > Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2001 4:10 PM > To: tmbg-list@tmbg.org > Subject: TMBG: Next Album > > > What I'm trying to say is, tracks that are from the > next album should have been saved FOR THE ALBUM and > not placed on samplers and emusic months or even years > ahead of time. > --------------------------------------------------- Get free personalized email at http://www.iname.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 16:35:07 -0400 From: scratch Subject: TMBG: Re: Next Album Message-ID: <3AD36E7B.71FA9A7D@the-pentagon.com> Organization: They Might Be Giants, Unofficially http://www.tmbg.org Yeah, What We Did This Summer is legitimate for a release alright... a greenback CD-R that was sent to radio stations is a sufficient release. Hey! Now that I think of it, they've been doing this for years! They've been ripping me off and I didn't even realize it! Birdhouse In Your Soul was on a promo single that was actually pressed! So they were literally stealing money out of my pocket when I bought Flood! And more than they will be with Cyclops Rock! Come on now, that isn't even close to a full track listing and there are a few songs that we've never even heard of before, and most of the old stuff hasn't been released in any format that anyone except the most hardcore fans would have. Older being the only exception (MitM soundtrack), *maybe* Bangs too (McSweeney's). Everything else is new except for being released on promo EPs or TMBGU, and they very well may re-record a lot (or all) of it. On another subject, am I the only person who thinks this may end up being their best album yet? Looks like Lincoln might get kicked off its position as my favorite album which it has held since I got it in '92. -scratch Jason Fickley wrote: > > Anyone else notice the partial tracklist of the next > album? > > "Bangs", "I've Got A Fang," "Cyclops Rock," "Finished > With Lies," "It's So Loud In Here," "Yeh Yeh," > "Another First Kiss," ""My Man," "She Thinks She's > Edith Head," "Older," and many other new songs and > current show favorites. > > Why, oh why are there so many damn tracks on there > that are both old news and available from TMBGU or > other legitimate sources (What We Did Last Summer, > etc.)? It's starting to look like TMBGU subscribers > will have only 3 or 4 NEW songs to look forward to on > the next album. Who knows? Maybe ALL of the tracks > will have been available from TMBGU by the time the > album comes out. > > What I'm trying to say is, tracks that are from the > next album should have been saved FOR THE ALBUM and > not placed on samplers and emusic months or even years > ahead of time. > > --Jason-- > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. > http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 17:04:48 EDT From: HotelDetective11@aol.com Subject: Re: TMBG: Next Album Message-ID: <11.1274201e.2804cf70@aol.com> In a message dated 4/10/01 4:40:21 PM Eastern Daylight Time, damek@earthling.net writes: > It seems to me that plenty of material from previous albums was available > "months or even years ahead of time" via Dial-A-Song. What's the > difference? > > Sure, MP3s are easier to record and copy, and they're better quality, but > they're still not the same as an actual CD release, and I know I look > forward to having a new actual album, no matter the material. > yeah, but on dial-a-song, you listen to it once or twice and then it's on to a new song the next week. with mp3s, you have them on your computer forever, and you can listen to them over and over without paying every time for a long distance call. sure, you pay for unltd, but not every time you listen to the song. also, it's really easy to burn the songs onto cds.....i definitely look forward to the new album, and there's no doubt that i'll listen to the songs much more often, having them all together on a cd, but it's just a little disappointing. jessie ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 21:40:45 -0000 From: "Nathan Mulac DeHoff" Subject: Re: TMBG: Next Album Message-ID: Jason: >Why, oh why are there so many damn tracks on there >that are both old news and available from TMBGU or >other legitimate sources (What We Did Last Summer, >etc.)? It's starting to look like TMBGU subscribers >will have only 3 or 4 NEW songs to look forward to on >the next album. Who knows? Maybe ALL of the tracks >will have been available from TMBGU by the time the >album comes out. As has already been pointed out, "What We Did Last Summer" isn't a legitimate release. The version of "Cyclops Rock" that ends up on the studio album might end up being a different one anyway. (I certainly hope it is, because that's a damned cool song, but I've heard the WWDLS version, and it sounds a bit lifeless.) As for Unlimited, well, you knew what you were getting into, right? It was advertised as previewing tracks that will be on the new album. Whether this is a good idea is questionable, since it makes TMBGU seem like less of a value, but it's not like the Johns didn't SAY there would be some repeats. Besides, if you're subscribed for the year, you're getting the darned thing for free, so what's to complain about? (I don't know if you ARE subscribed for the whole year, but if you're not, you might miss out on a few Unlimited tracks anyway.) >What I'm trying to say is, tracks that are from the >next album should have been saved FOR THE ALBUM and >not placed on samplers and emusic months or even years >ahead of time. Well, that's one problem with waiting so long between albums (not that the wait was entirely TMBG's fault). Nonetheless, I don't think samplers and emusic (except for Long Tall Weekend and the Working Undercover EP) count as official releases, and it makes sense that the best stuff from these would be on the official album. -- May the light shine upon thee, Nathan DinnerBell@tmbg.org http://www.geocities.com/fablesto/ _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 21:44:36 -0000 From: "Nathan Mulac DeHoff" Subject: Re: TMBG: Re: Next Album Message-ID: scratch: >Come on now, that isn't even close to a full track listing and there are >a few songs that we've never even heard of before, and most of the old >stuff hasn't been released in any format that anyone except the most >hardcore fans would have. Older being the only exception (MitM >soundtrack), *maybe* Bangs too (McSweeney's). I agree that putting "Older" on the album is kind of dumb. Even if the Johns consider it one of Their better songs (which I certainly don't), isn't it enough to put it on TWO legitimate albums? (And I remember when They didn't want to release that song at all.) >On another subject, am I the only >person who thinks this may end up being their best album yet? Looks >like Lincoln might get kicked off its position as my favorite album >which it has held since I got it in '92. It's hard to tell. A lot goes into making an album great. I certainly have high hopes for it, though. -- May the light shine upon thee, Nathan DinnerBell@tmbg.org http://www.geocities.com/fablesto/ _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 17:57:55 EDT From: Kaylum@aol.com Subject: Re: TMBG: Next Album Message-ID: As has already been pointed out, "What We Did Last Summer" isn't a legitimate release. The version of "Cyclops Rock" that ends up on the studio album might end up being a different one anyway. (I certainly hope it is, because that's a damned cool song, but I've heard the WWDLS version, and it sounds a bit lifeless.) If anyone on this list has heard both the WWDLS and Unlimited versions of "Cyclops Rock," can you tell me if they're the same? I've only heard the Unlimited version, and I don't think it's lifeless at all! > were getting into, right? It was > advertised as previewing tracks that will be on the new album. Whether > this is a good idea is questionable, since it makes TMBGU seem like less of > a value, but it's not like the Johns didn't SAY there would be some > repeats. Besides, if you're subscribed for the > year, you're getting the darned thing for free, so what's to complain > about? > (I don't know if you ARE subscribed for the whole year, but if you're > not, > you might miss out on a few Unlimited tracks anyway.) > Not only that, but emusic was just bought out yesterday, so Unlimited might not last the whole year, which makes the free cd and fleece an even better deal. Kay, glad she found a bright side to emusic going under > > -- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 22:35:31 From: "John Ferrer" Subject: TMBG: Oops... Message-ID: Well, uh, I just looked at theymightbegiants.com again, and "It's So Loud In Here" is mentioned, I just didn't see it the first time because I'm stupid. So sorry about that part. Oh, and while I'm thinking about it, I hope Flans is serious about Secret Mountain Labaratory. That is the best title ever, and it makes me almost weep with joy. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 17:39:52 -0500 From: "Polaris" Subject: TMBG: Re: Albums are stupid and I hope they die. Message-ID: <9b0573$2j5p$1@ussenterprise.ufp.org> Organization: They Might Be Giants, Unofficially http://www.tmbg.org > basically excess. And on to something else, why doesn't the playlist mention > "Hoovering Sombrero," "It's So Loud In Here," or "Thunderbird"? They've said > before that those songs would be on there, along with "Unreliable Narrator," Hey, Hoovering sombrero Gently vacuuming the carpet underneath me You're the greatest worker I've had who cannot see Hoovering sombrero, I'll keep thee Polaris Dante: It's the kid in the helmet. Leonardo: Yes. Look at him. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 20:37:14 -0400 From: "K.C." Subject: TMBG: Naming the Album Message-ID: <3AD3A73A.7DE0@bgnet.bgsu.edu> The album is still unnamed. Did they change the poll on emusic yet? I don't really love any of the choices up there. My new #1 from the e-newsletter just sent out: Secret Mountain Laboratory. It's Flans' favorite, and I think its kind of cool considering they haven't produced a real album in a while. Like they've been hiding out under Mt. Gigantor with all their secret toys experimenting with new labels and songs. Still a close #2 is Matt's Life Savings. But I really doubt they'll ever name it that unless we rise up in violent protest. -K.C. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2001 00:55:54 -0000 From: "Nathan Mulac DeHoff" Subject: Re: TMBG: Albums are stupid and I hope they die. Message-ID: John Ferrer: >Nobody's even mentioned Long Tall Weekend yet, just that the songs have >only been on EP's and TMBGU. Long Tall Weekend is NOT an EP, darnit! It's a >full-length album! Its catchphrase was that it was the first full-length >MP3 >album! Millions of people have heard it! Thousands either own it or have >burned it onto a CD long ago! It is an album, just like Flood or anything >else, and that was the reason it was so exciting for MP3 technology. Actually, a few people, including myself, HAVE mentioned LTW. I get the impression that the Johns kind of threw it together, though, and didn't really think of it as an "official" album. They probably realized that not as many people would hear it as would if it were on a CD, so They just used old recordings of songs They didn't really care about, rather than doing regular recording sessions. >A band, >a real band with real hits, was showing the world that MP3's were valid and >very much a part of the future of music. By putting any of the songs from >it >onto an album, it completely goes back on that statement, and shows that >the >Internet isn't actually ready to be a part of music. Suddenly it becomes >some silly little project with a couple decent songs on it that can fill up >space on the new CD. As far as I know, the only LTW songs that will be on the next album are "Older" and (possibly) "She Thinks She's Edith Head." This is nothing new. In a Web chat around the time of the album's release, They SAID that these two songs would be on the next album. I don't think putting these two songs on two albums is undermining LTW. Are they going to be on the next album just to "take up space"? Well, I don't think those two are exactly top-quality TMBG songs, but I seriously doubt the Johns would even THINK of putting them on the album if They didn't really LIKE them. There are plenty of other songs They can put on there. I'll have more to say later. I have to go now. -- May the light shine upon thee, Nathan DinnerBell@tmbg.org http://www.geocities.com/fablesto/ _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 17:33:11 -0500 From: "Polaris" Subject: Re: TMBG: Re: Hash Pipe and Mr Xcitement Message-ID: <9b04pa$2irh$1@ussenterprise.ufp.org> Organization: They Might Be Giants, Unofficially http://www.tmbg.org > I'm with Mike and Mario; you can't just assume that people who download the > songs for free from you on Napster wouldn't subscribe if that was the only > way they could hear them. And let's not forget that a lot of these songs are > reviews of stuff that is or will be available in stores, and who knows if > those people might decide not to buy them because they got them for free (and > aren't rabid enough fans like we are to pay for them again )? It's about time for me to give an unpopular opinion here. I like TMBG, I support them and all, and if I had a credit card I would have bought LTW and WUFTM. But TMBGU is ridiculous. $10 per month to download what ranges in quality from 6 Dial-a-Songs to pathetic(I specifically point to the Flood show here). I downloaded the first two months from Napster and was disappointed. I would certainly not shell out $120 to get the scrapings of the barrel(a golden barrel with excellent merchandise, mind you), and I don't think I'm alone. There is some offhand calling for a tangible album release. I don't want that. I just want an album release. One that's polished and has a cohesive order like TMBG albums mostly do, FS excepted. LTW was fantastic, as was WUFTM. Yes, I already mentioned I never paid for those. But if I had the means, I would. Hasn't somebody on here mentioned a way that you can convert money from a bank account into some sort of E-currency that can be used on eBay? That would work for me. I never would have purchased Direct from Brooklyn if I hadn't been given an Amazon.com gift certificate for just the right amount. I had, at one point, planned on buying the Malcolm in the Middle soundtrack, but it had two TMBG tracks I already have(and one of which I have on a tangible mix CD, for all you I-can-hold-it-in-my-hand freaks) combined with the likes of Hanson and Citizen King, a group I will forever know as the "What's that song? It doesn't sound like John and John" band. I also know that the easiest way to get rid of responses is to say "I'll probably get flamed for this...", but screw it. Most probably read my posts, but very few respond anyway. Do whatever you want. Polaris Dante: It's the kid in the helmet. Leonardo: Yes. Look at him. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 22:02:37 -0400 From: "Bryce" Subject: Re: TMBG: Re: Hash Pipe and Mr Xcitement Message-ID: <9b0e1s$2t6l$1@ussenterprise.ufp.org> Organization: They Might Be Giants, Unofficially http://www.tmbg.org Polaris : > TMBGU is ridiculous. $10 per month to download what > ranges in quality from 6 Dial-a-Songs to pathetic(I > specifically point to the Flood show here). I understand your point, but this quality range confuses me. 6 Dial-a-Songs are better than pathetic, right? So is 5 Dial-a-Songs better than 6, because it's a lower percentage of Dial-a-Songs in some tracklist? Or is 6 better than 5, because it's more songs in some currency-like exchange, like 6 Dial-a-Songs would be worth one album track? > I downloaded the first two months from Napster and > was disappointed. I would certainly not shell out $120 > to get the scrapings of the barrel(a golden barrel with > excellent merchandise, mind you), and I don't think I'm > alone. You're not, of course. I guess it depends on how much you like the scrapings. There are other threads going on where people complain that there aren't *enough* scrapings, and we're getting too much of the good stuff too early. Man, it sure sounds like more when you say $120 as opposed to $10/month. :-/ > Hasn't somebody on here mentioned a way that you > can convert money from a bank account into some > sort of E-currency that can be used on eBay? Do you mean PayPal? I know you can register both credit cards and checking accounts with your PayPal account, but I don't know if credit cards are required first or not. I don't see why they would be. Emusic doesn't take PayPal, though, so you'd still have to get somebody with a credit card to pay Emusic on your behalf, and then reimburse them. And you don't need PayPal to do that. And by the way, let me just tell you, you're better off without credit cards. Good Lord, that's the first thing about my life I'd go back and change if I had a time machine. > I had, at one point, planned on buying the Malcolm > in the Middle soundtrack I like it pretty well. It's still to early to decide just how much, I've only heard it three times or so. > I also know that the easiest way to > get rid of responses is to say "I'll probably get > flamed for this...", but > screw it. > Most probably read my posts, but very few respond > anyway. Do whatever you want. As if we wouldn't... :) Seriously, when I don't respond to your posts, most of the time it's just because you're a hard act to follow. Bryce ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 22:21:48 EDT From: Kaylum@aol.com Subject: Re: TMBG: Re: Hash Pipe and Mr Xcitement Message-ID: <97.13e6fc93.280519bc@aol.com> In a message dated 4/10/2001 10:06:40 PM Eastern Daylight Time, bryce@tmbg.org writes: > Emusic doesn't take PayPal, though, so you'd still have to get somebody with > a credit card to pay Emusic on your behalf, and then > reimburse them. And you don't need PayPal to do that. > > And by the way, let me just tell you, you're better off without credit > cards. Good Lord, that's the first thing about my life I'd > Preach on, brother. I got three credit cards when I graduated college, each with a $5,000 limit.# Well,# 7 years later, after losing 2 jobs and having#2 car accidents, I ended up $30,000 in the red (yes,# half of what I owed was interest).# Just declared bankruptcy, and I don't have a single card.# The best solution is to get a bank account and a debit card, which you can use just like a credit card except that you can only spend what's in your bank account, obvously (and which is accepted by emusic).# Best inventions ever :) ------------------------------ End of tmbg-list Digest #40-10 ******************************