Errors-To: owner-tmbg-digest@tmbg.org Reply-To: tmbg-digest@tmbg.org Sender: owner-tmbg-digest@tmbg.org Precedence: bulk From: owner-tmbg-digest@tmbg.org To: tmbg-digest@tmbg.org Subject: tmbg-list Digest, Volume 43, Number 20 tmbg-list Digest, Volume 43, Number 20 Friday, 20 July 2001 Topics: Re: TMBG: Christian Lyrics TMBG: Requests anyone? Re: TMBG: Christian Lyrics Re: TMBG: Christian Lyrics Re: TMBG: Christian Lyrics TMBG: Mink Car Re: TMBG: Christian Lyrics Re: TMBG: Christian Lyrics TMBG: Boss Of Me TMBG: Re: Boss Of Me Re: TMBG: Boss Of Me TMBG: Documentary tickets TMBG: Birmingham show 2/2/92 Re: TMBG: Documentary tickets Re: TMBG: Christian Lyrics Re: TMBG: Boss Of Me Re: TMBG: Boss Of Me Re: TMBG: Requests anyone? Re: TMBG: Boss Of Me Re: TMBG: Requests anyone? TMBG: re: Boss Of Me Re: TMBG: Christian Lyrics (And Atheism) Re: TMBG: Christian Lyrics TMBG: Boss of Me on Mink Car TMBG: Re: Boss of Me on Mink Car Re: TMBG: Christian Lyrics (And Atheism) Re: TMBG: Christian Lyrics Administrivia: For all administrative issues, such as change of address, withdrawal from the list, etc., send a message to the following address: ÁÁowner-tmbg-digest@tmbg.org The views expressed herein are those of the individual authors. tmbg-list is compiled with Digest 3.7b (John Relph ). ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2001 23:36:26 +0100 From: David Poppers Subject: Re: TMBG: Christian Lyrics Message-ID: <3B560F68.55EBD779@earthlink.net> Organization: They Might Be Giants, Unofficially http://www.tmbg.org ÁÁHeh, that sorta reminds me. I just got Linnell added to the Celebrity Atheist list at http://www.celebatheists.com, as you can read below. Anyways, I want to get the other half of TMBG on the site, but I don't have any evidence that Flansy is also a non-believer, other than rumors. Can anyone point me in the right direction to an interview or something? >Hello David, > >Thanks for the tip on Linnell. I'll include him in the coming edition. > >If Flansburgh wants in, I'm sure he'll let us know one way or another. > >--Reed Esau, Evergreen CO > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Poppers" To: Sent: Saturday, July 14, 2001 9:04 PM Subject: John Linnell, of They Might Be Giants > John Linnell, of the band They Might Be Giants (Malcom in the Middle > soundtrack, Dr. Evil theme song for Austin Powers 2, music for The Daily > Show) is an atheist, according to an interview from Apples and Oranges > Magazine back in '94. > > A&O: Do you believe in God? > > JL: No, I don't. > > A&O: How were you raised? > > JL: My parents weren't really...I didn't really get a religious > upbringing. > > http://www.tmbg.net/articles/applesoranges1994.html > > The other leader of TMBG, John Flansburgh, is also an atheist, but I > have not yet found the interview to prove it, only anecdotal evidence. > > Charlie Miller wrote: > > http://www.ultranet.com/~mari/lifesaver.htm > > This is funny. Some random surfing from plif.com brought me to a > christian lyrics site....they change the lyrics in songs to make them > about christianity for some reason...anyway particle man was > there..read it and try not to cringe. > > -Charlie Miller > http://flipse.com/dirky/ > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2001 03:12:55 EDT From: Gegatron@aol.com Subject: TMBG: Requests anyone? Message-ID: <119.1dbf2ac.2887e277@aol.com> I'm sending out the request list for Unlimited songs at the end of the month! Email me what songs YOU'D like to hear on Unlimited and I'll compile them into one big letter. So far the most requested songs are 1. What is Everyone Staring At? 2. Thunderbird 3. No Answer 4. It's So Loud In Here (DAS.com demo version) vote for any song you want! ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2001 02:10:33 -0600 From: "makebase" Subject: Re: TMBG: Christian Lyrics Message-ID: <9j64ve$157r$1@ussenterprise.ufp.org> Organization: They Might Be Giants, Unofficially http://www.tmbg.org I didn't see Linnell's name there. Maybe I missed it. I only recently found out myself that he doesn't believe in God. I have never ready anything, however, that said Flansburgh was of the same persuasion. My gut says he's not. My admittedly weak reasons for this are the number of "holiday" themed songs he's done ("Christmas Cards," "Santa's Beard," "Careless Santa," etc.) and that line in "Puppet Head" about seeing you in church. Of course, Linnell participated in almost all of those songs too, so, who knows? -- Shaun www.tmbg.cc David Poppers wrote in message news:3B560F68.55EBD779@earthlink.net... > Heh, that sorta reminds me. I just got Linnell added to the Celebrity > Atheist list at http://www.celebatheists.com, as you can read below. > Anyways, I want to get the other half of TMBG on the site, but I don't > have any evidence that Flansy is also a non-believer, other than rumors. > Can anyone point me in the right direction to an interview or something? > > > >Hello David, > > > >Thanks for the tip on Linnell. I'll include him in the coming edition. > > > >If Flansburgh wants in, I'm sure he'll let us know one way or another. > > > >--Reed Esau, Evergreen CO > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "David Poppers" > To: > Sent: Saturday, July 14, 2001 9:04 PM > Subject: John Linnell, of They Might Be Giants > > > > John Linnell, of the band They Might Be Giants (Malcom in the Middle > > soundtrack, Dr. Evil theme song for Austin Powers 2, music for The Daily > > Show) is an atheist, according to an interview from Apples and Oranges > > Magazine back in '94. > > > > A&O: Do you believe in God? > > > > JL: No, I don't. > > > > A&O: How were you raised? > > > > JL: My parents weren't really...I didn't really get a religious > > upbringing. > > > > http://www.tmbg.net/articles/applesoranges1994.html > > > > The other leader of TMBG, John Flansburgh, is also an atheist, but I > > have not yet found the interview to prove it, only anecdotal evidence. > > > > Charlie Miller wrote: > > > > http://www.ultranet.com/~mari/lifesaver.htm > > > > This is funny. Some random surfing from plif.com brought me to a > > christian lyrics site....they change the lyrics in songs to make them > > about christianity for some reason...anyway particle man was > > there..read it and try not to cringe. > > > > -Charlie Miller > > http://flipse.com/dirky/ > > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2001 03:11:33 -0700 From: "Erich" Subject: Re: TMBG: Christian Lyrics Message-ID: In addition and I know many havent heard this song yet but in 'Hopless Bleak Dispar' off the upcoming album Mink Car due out September 11th on Restless Records. He talks about being depressed and having this bleak dispar hovering over him until he goes to heaven and it vanishes. So who knows I doubt anyone who renounces the existences of a superior being would ever want to sing about it.....wait.....didnt i hear he's jewish? Erich ----- Original Message ----- From: "makebase" To: Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2001 1:10 AM Subject: Re: TMBG: Christian Lyrics > I didn't see Linnell's name there. Maybe I missed it. I only recently > found out myself that he doesn't believe in God. I have never ready > anything, however, that said Flansburgh was of the same persuasion. My gut > says he's not. My admittedly weak reasons for this are the number of > "holiday" themed songs he's done ("Christmas Cards," "Santa's Beard," > "Careless Santa," etc.) and that line in "Puppet Head" about seeing you in > church. Of course, Linnell participated in almost all of those songs too, > so, who knows? > > -- > Shaun > www.tmbg.cc > > > David Poppers wrote in message > news:3B560F68.55EBD779@earthlink.net... > > Heh, that sorta reminds me. I just got Linnell added to the Celebrity > > Atheist list at http://www.celebatheists.com, as you can read below. > > Anyways, I want to get the other half of TMBG on the site, but I don't > > have any evidence that Flansy is also a non-believer, other than rumors. > > Can anyone point me in the right direction to an interview or something? > > > > > > >Hello David, > > > > > >Thanks for the tip on Linnell. I'll include him in the coming edition. > > > > > >If Flansburgh wants in, I'm sure he'll let us know one way or another. > > > > > >--Reed Esau, Evergreen CO > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "David Poppers" > > To: > > Sent: Saturday, July 14, 2001 9:04 PM > > Subject: John Linnell, of They Might Be Giants > > > > > > > John Linnell, of the band They Might Be Giants (Malcom in the Middle > > > soundtrack, Dr. Evil theme song for Austin Powers 2, music for The Daily > > > Show) is an atheist, according to an interview from Apples and Oranges > > > Magazine back in '94. > > > > > > A&O: Do you believe in God? > > > > > > JL: No, I don't. > > > > > > A&O: How were you raised? > > > > > > JL: My parents weren't really...I didn't really get a religious > > > upbringing. > > > > > > http://www.tmbg.net/articles/applesoranges1994.html > > > > > > The other leader of TMBG, John Flansburgh, is also an atheist, but I > > > have not yet found the interview to prove it, only anecdotal evidence. > > > > > > Charlie Miller wrote: > > > > > > http://www.ultranet.com/~mari/lifesaver.htm > > > > > > This is funny. Some random surfing from plif.com brought me to a > > > christian lyrics site....they change the lyrics in songs to make them > > > about christianity for some reason...anyway particle man was > > > there..read it and try not to cringe. > > > > > > -Charlie Miller > > > http://flipse.com/dirky/ > > > > > > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2001 10:58:51 -0400 From: karinh@sterl.com Subject: Re: TMBG: Christian Lyrics Message-ID: <1834258173@sterl.com> Aaargh! That is just so excruciatingly, horrendously, hilariously BAD..... Lifesaver Man?? What, is he round & green with a hole in the middle? Pitchfork Man?? Atmosphere Man??? Don't stop there, though. Check out the rest of the site, they just get horribler & horribler. They have absolutely no sense of what songs are even appropriate to appropriate, to coin a pun... Tubthumping, a song about getting so drunk you puke, becomes, everybody waiting for this?, Bible Thumping...!!!! And, and, get this... Smells Like Teen Spirit becomes - surprise!!! - Smells Like Holy Spirit, with the line, Seriously now, people, "The Mesiah, he's no liah" Complete with misspelled "Messiah". Scuse me while I roll on the floor & howl for a moment. They have turned "Smokin in the Boys Room" into Prayin In the Classroom, all about how they know that prayin ain't allowed in school, but they're such badasses they're gonna do it anyway. Oooh, I love rebels... There is one gem, Sittin On the Dock of the Bay is now Sittin on the End of the Pew, all about what a waste of time this is, sitting in church listening to the preacher babble. Not that I necessarily believe that it is a waste of time, it was just very refreshing after all that pious, self-righteous, BAD (worst sin) lyric writing. Seriously, check this out, it's too good to miss. Everybody go here & howl your brains out for a few minutes... Karin H ** FREE THE EXPO 67 ** ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2001 13:09:56 -0400 From: Amy Greenlese Subject: TMBG: Mink Car Message-ID: So I'm sitting here listening to my advance copy of Mink Car that a friend got for me. It's different, but I really like it! I haven't been keeping up with the mp3's so most of the songs are new to me, including Mr. Xcitement. I was listening to it and it was reminding me of a song that was just out of reach of my mind - I hate when that happens. But I've finally figured it out: it reminds me of that Bloodhound Gang song, "The Bad Touch" I think it's the cadence of the lyrics more than anything else. Other thoughts: I liked the original version of First Kiss better, the rock version. I like this version of I've Got A Fang better than the one I heard at the show in May Yeah Yeah is one of the best songs I've ever heard ever Bangs is creepy - he's only holding her hand to look at her bangs? Sounds like a fetish to me. I'm glad I hadn't already downloaded and listened to most of these songs. Not that I was trying to avoid them, I just didn't want to pay for emusic and I don't have a sound card on my computer at work so I just never heard them. What is the single going to be, has anyone heard? I want to start bugging my local TMBG-playing radio station. Amy :) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2001 14:04:08 EDT From: FreeMiniPops@aol.com Subject: Re: TMBG: Christian Lyrics Message-ID: <34.18171106.28887b18@aol.com> In a message dated 7/19/01 10:23:13 AM Pacific Daylight Time, pleasepassthemilkplease@yahoo.com writes: > However, on the other hand, opinions can change. That article was from 1994, > right? That was seven years ago. Linnell might not be an Athiest anymore. > What article was this? Is it available online? What did he say about Athiesm in it? ---Alex ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2001 14:20:54 -0400 From: scratch Subject: TMBG: Re: Boss Of Me Message-ID: <3B572506.233F546E@the-pentagon.com> Organization: They Might Be Giants, Unofficially http://www.tmbg.org I was thinking the same thing. -scratch FreeMiniPops@aol.com wrote: > > So, am I the only one who thinks Boss Of Me should be included on Mink > Car? I > mean, not neccesarily to benefit us, 'cause it's already been made > available > on other releases (and some may be sick of them re-using it), but I > think it > would benefit TMBG in that potential new fans who may be familiar with > only > Boss Of Me, and no other TMBG material, would be more likely to buy > the > record. I mean, it's already been made a single, has a video, is heard > weekly > on a popular T.V. show, and can be heard quite frequently on the > radio. It > seems only logical to put their closet thing to a "hit" in more than > 10 years > on the new album. I think it would definetly boost it's sales and > publicity. > You know, "They Might Be Giants brand new release, 'Mink Car.' > Features the > hit song 'Boss Of Me,' from Fox's Malcolm In The Middle." > > Otherwise, people will maybe recognize the name "They Might Be > Giants," and > think of them as "those guys who do the Malcolm theme song," then > consider > buying Mink Car until, of course, they discover that Boss Of Me isn't > included on it. > > I don't know. That's just what I think. > > Anybody else have an opinion on this? > > ---Alex ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2001 14:23:01 EDT From: Kaylum@aol.com Subject: Re: TMBG: Boss Of Me Message-ID: II happen to agree with you; it would also enable fans to have the song on a legit cd without having to buy the MitM soundtrack. Interestingly enough, according to a recent interview with Flans, "Boss of Me" will be on the British version of Mink Car (and, as has already been mentioned, they're already getting a single with BOM, Mr. Xcitement, and Reprehensible). Too bad imports cost so much :/ Kay ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2001 15:16:06 -0400 From: Amy Greenlese Subject: TMBG: Birmingham show 2/2/92 Message-ID: Does anyone know the venue of the show in Birmingham, England on 2/2/92? Thanks Amy :) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2001 13:31:49 -0600 From: "makebase" Subject: Re: TMBG: Christian Lyrics Message-ID: <9j7cqq$270g$1@ussenterprise.ufp.org> Organization: They Might Be Giants, Unofficially http://www.tmbg.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0058_01C11057.2A05B1E0 Content-Type: text/plain; ÁÁcharset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable This will be of little help to you, but I remember reading an interview = on www.tmbg.net where Linnell was bluntly asked, "Do you believe in = God?" to which question Linnell answered, "No." The interviewer then = went on to the next question. Now, interviewers edit out parts of the = interview that end up not being interesting or relevant, but, the way = it's presented, it seems as if either the interviewer doesn't really = find this interesting or perhaps that it wasn't a subject Linnell was = willing to elaborate on. You can't really tell for sure. Personally, my opinion on the matter is this. I'm what you might call = religious, but Linnell's views don't change my opinion of him. It's = more of an interesting fact about him to me. --=20 Shaun www.tmbg.cc wrote in message = news:34.18171106.28887b18@aol.com... In a message dated 7/19/01 10:23:13 AM Pacific Daylight Time,=20 pleasepassthemilkplease@yahoo.com writes:=20 However, on the other hand, opinions can change. That article was = from 1994,=20 right? That was seven years ago. Linnell might not be an Athiest = anymore.=20 =20 What article was this? Is it available online? What did he say about = Athiesm=20 in it?=20 =20 ---Alex=20 ------=_NextPart_000_0058_01C11057.2A05B1E0 Content-Type: text/html; ÁÁcharset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
This will be of little help to you, but = I remember=20 reading an interview on www.tmbg.net = where=20 Linnell was bluntly asked, "Do you believe in God?" to which question = Linnell=20 answered, "No."  The interviewer then went on to the next = question. =20 Now, interviewers edit out parts of the interview that end up not being=20 interesting or relevant, but, the way it's presented, it seems as if = either the=20 interviewer doesn't really find this interesting or perhaps that it = wasn't a=20 subject Linnell was willing to elaborate on.  You can't really tell = for=20 sure.
 
Personally, my opinion on the matter is = this. =20 I'm what you might call religious, but Linnell's views don't change my = opinion=20 of him.  It's more of an interesting fact about him to = me.

--
Shaun
www.tmbg.cc
 
 
<FreeMiniPops@aol.com>=20 wrote in message news:34.18171106.28887b18@aol.= com...
In a message dated 7/19/01 = 10:23:13 AM=20 Pacific Daylight Time,
pleasepassthemilkplease@yahoo.com writes:=20


However, on the other hand, opinions can change. =  That=20 article was from 1994,
right?  That was seven years ago.=20  Linnell might not be an Athiest anymore.=20
 

What article was this? Is it available = online?=20 What did he say about Athiesm
in it?
       &nbs= p;            = ;  =20 =
           &nb= sp;   ---Alex=20 ------=_NextPart_000_0058_01C11057.2A05B1E0-- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2001 15:41:36 EDT From: CallMeDoctorWorm@aol.com Subject: Re: TMBG: Boss Of Me Message-ID: <93.d70c21e.288891f0@aol.com> In a message dated 7/19/01 2:16:26 PM Eastern Daylight Time, FreeMiniPops@aol.com writes: > I think it would definetly boost it's sales and publicity. > You know, "They Might Be Giants brand new release, 'Mink Car.' Features the > hit song 'Boss Of Me,' from Fox's Malcolm In The Middle." > > Otherwise, people will maybe recognize the name "They Might Be Giants," and > think of them as "those guys who do the Malcolm theme song," then consider > buying Mink Car until, of course, they discover that Boss Of Me isn't > I totally agree. I was thinkng the same thing. but then the question comes up, do we really want more publicity for TMBG? would that wreck the way they are (perfect)? DRW TMBG A to OH cc: God, or John Linnell's interpretation thereof ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2001 21:14:36 -0500 (CDT) From: william m deuel Subject: Re: TMBG: Requests anyone? Message-ID: <200107200214.f6K2Eau51419@web.zwallet.com> >add unforgotten to your list please i think i that is a great song Zwallet.com why send e-mails for free when you can get paid for it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1 ______________________________________________________ Get Paid... With Your Free Email at http://www.zwallet.com/index.html?user=deuels ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2001 13:47:40 -0600 From: "makebase" Subject: Re: TMBG: Boss Of Me Message-ID: <9j7drs$285u$1@ussenterprise.ufp.org> Organization: They Might Be Giants, Unofficially http://www.tmbg.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0076_01C11059.611B5700 Content-Type: text/plain; ÁÁcharset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Is that really what makes TMBG appealing, though? That few other people = know that they are "cool?" I mean, I enjoy their music. I don't think = I would enjoy them less if they were on TRL every day. I would still = respect them if they filled football stadiums every night. Okay, one = drawback to big popularity is that the concerts wouldn't be as intimate. = No hope of getting closer to the stage with the conga line. I say, = damn the publicity or the lack thereof. They are my favorite band and = to hell with what anyone else thinks about them. --=20 Shaun www.tmbg.cc wrote in message = news:93.d70c21e.288891f0@aol.com... In a message dated 7/19/01 2:16:26 PM Eastern Daylight Time,=20 FreeMiniPops@aol.com writes:=20 I think it would definetly boost it's sales and publicity.=20 You know, "They Might Be Giants brand new release, 'Mink Car.' = Features the=20 hit song 'Boss Of Me,' from Fox's Malcolm In The Middle."=20 Otherwise, people will maybe recognize the name "They Might Be = Giants," and=20 think of them as "those guys who do the Malcolm theme song," then = consider=20 buying Mink Car until, of course, they discover that Boss Of Me = isn't=20 included on it.=20 I totally agree. I was thinkng the same thing. but then the question = comes=20 up, do we really want more publicity for TMBG? would that wreck the = way they=20 are (perfect)?=20 DRW=20 TMBG A to OH=20 cc: God, or John Linnell's interpretation thereof=20 ------=_NextPart_000_0076_01C11059.611B5700 Content-Type: text/html; ÁÁcharset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Is that really what makes TMBG = appealing,=20 though?  That few other people know that they are "cool?"  I = mean, I=20 enjoy their music.  I don't think I would enjoy them less if they = were on=20 TRL every day.  I would still respect them if they filled football = stadiums=20 every night.  Okay, one drawback to big popularity is that the = concerts=20 wouldn't be as intimate.  No hope of getting closer to the stage = with the=20 conga line.  I say, damn the publicity or the lack thereof.  = They are=20 my favorite band and to hell with what anyone else thinks about=20 them.

--
Shaun
www.tmbg.cc
 
 
<CallMeDoctorWorm@aol.com>= wrote=20 in message news:93.d70c21e.288891f0@aol.co= m...
In a message = dated 7/19/01=20 2:16:26 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
FreeMiniPops@aol.com writes:=20


I think it would definetly boost it's sales and = publicity.=20
You know, "They Might Be Giants brand new release, 'Mink Car.' = Features=20 the
hit song 'Boss Of Me,' from Fox's Malcolm In The Middle."=20

Otherwise, people will maybe recognize the name "They Might = Be=20 Giants," and
think of them as "those guys who do the Malcolm = theme=20 song," then consider
buying Mink Car until, of course, they = discover=20 that Boss Of Me isn't
included on it. =

I totally=20 agree. I was thinkng the same thing. but then the question comes =
up, do we=20 really want more publicity for TMBG? would that wreck the way they =
are=20 (perfect)?

DRW
TMBG A to OH

cc: God, or John = Linnell's=20 interpretation thereof ------=_NextPart_000_0076_01C11059.611B5700-- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2001 17:15:38 -0400 From: scratch Subject: Re: TMBG: Requests anyone? Message-ID: <3B574DFA.FB1F082F@the-pentagon.com> Organization: They Might Be Giants, Unofficially http://www.tmbg.org It's already been released though, it's on the S-E-X-X-Y EP. -scratch william m deuel wrote: > > >add > > unforgotten to your list please i think i that is a great song > > Zwallet.com > why send e-mails for free when you can get paid for it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1 > ______________________________________________________ > Get Paid... With Your Free Email at > http://www.zwallet.com/index.html?user=deuels ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2001 17:32:54 EDT From: FreeMiniPops@aol.com Subject: TMBG: re: Boss Of Me Message-ID: <60.11309337.2888ac06@aol.com> In a message dated 7/19/01 2:16:26 PM Eastern Daylight Time, CallMeDoctorWorm@aol.com writes: > I totally agree. I was thinkng the same thing. but then the question > comes > #up, do we really want more publicity for TMBG? would that wreck the > way they > #are (perfect)? > > ##In a message dated 7/19/01 12:54:18 PM Pacific Daylight Time, > makebase@tmbg.cc writes: > Is that really what makes TMBG appealing, though?# That few other people know that they are "cool?"# I mean, I enjoy their music.# I don't think I would enjoy > > Well, I think what the good Doctor is trying to say, is that if TMBG does become popular, they might try to change their music in order to stay popular (ala Sugar Ray and Smash Mouth). If a certain sound sells, than they will stick with that sound and try to milk it as much as they can. If this happens to TMBG, they may just become another bland modern rock/pop group. Basically, we don't want them to become the next Matchbox 20. But I still wish them success, 'cause I truly think that they are better than that. The Johns are true artists, and they will do whatever they want to do, even if it isn't very VH1 friendly. They are always experimenting with new and different sounds, and if one of those sounds happens to work better than other, I don't believe that they will limit themselves to only that sound. They will continue experimenting. Of course, I could be wrong. The almighty dollar is a very powerful thing. Let's just hope for the best :) - - - A L E X ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2001 15:11:17 -0700 From: "Erich" Subject: Re: TMBG: Christian Lyrics Message-ID: > > He did SAY heaven? You're not just interpreting this? He didn't say he went > up high or anything? Yes he says "And then I died and went to heaven, my dispar then floated to heaven thats how i finally got rid of it" Erich ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2001 15:12:04 -0700 From: "Erich" Subject: TMBG: Boss of Me on Mink Car Message-ID: I think they do have the right amount of success. Erich ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2001 16:11:07 -0600 From: "makebase" Subject: TMBG: Re: Boss of Me on Mink Car Message-ID: <9j7m7e$2fvi$1@ussenterprise.ufp.org> Organization: They Might Be Giants, Unofficially http://www.tmbg.org Say they wanted a higher level of success. Would you hold that against them, or would you regard that as their prerogative? -- Shaun www.tmbg.cc Erich wrote in message news:OE22oC6POYFSrAuWiqJ00000664@hotmail.com... > I think they do have the right amount of success. > > Erich ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2001 19:49:23 -0400 From: scratch Subject: Re: TMBG: Christian Lyrics (And Atheism) Message-ID: <3B577203.8583FAF8@the-pentagon.com> Organization: They Might Be Giants, Unofficially http://www.tmbg.org John Ferrer wrote: > > I guess nobody else caught this, but the site also has a reworked version of > "Turn Around" called "On the Mound." It's even better. I can't believe these > things are supposed to be taken seriously, and if they are, it's probably > still a little jokey. I mean, if they've even heard these TMBG songs, they > can't be as bad as this makes them look. > > Which leads me to comment on this whole Atheism thread I haven't gotten to > tackle yet. I am and always have been pretty darn sure both Johns are > Atheist. Flans is even more irreverent than Linnell. There's one interview > (don't know which one) where he says he was having trouble getting in touch > with the interviewer because of religious telemarketers telling him about > Jesus, to which he replied, "Fuck Jesus." I know irreverence isn't proof, > but...I'd say it's a good hint. And mentioning holidays and religion is > bunk. One can still be interested in religion without partaking in it. You can, of course, be religious without being Christian... not that I'm saying he is or anything, I also get the impression he is athiest. -scratch ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2001 22:56:33 +0100 From: David Poppers Subject: Re: TMBG: Christian Lyrics Message-ID: <3B57578A.19156317@earthlink.net> Organization: They Might Be Giants, Unofficially http://www.tmbg.org ÁÁWell, if you want the ultimate in religious mockery, look no further than "Kiss Me, Son of God." Just read the lyrics a few times. A few other songs which hint at some religious themes are Spiraling Shape (which is about just about anything, but I persist), The Bells Are Ringing (Bells = Church = Mind Control? Could be.), and Dirt Bike (Which is about a bike who becomes a sort of savior/Christ-like figure. A friggin' bicycle.) ÁÁThe guy who runs the site said he'd put Linnell up on his next update, and who knows when that'll be? Then again, he does update fairly often. The interview can be read at tmbg.net, http://www.tmbg.net/articles/applesoranges1994.html. ÁÁTMBG also did a Hanukkah song, "Festival of Lights," in which Linnell managed to rhyme Hanukkah with Harmonica, and got away with it. It's on twistid, if you care enough to download it. Pi. makebase wrote: > > I didn't see Linnell's name there. Maybe I missed it. I only recently > found out myself that he doesn't believe in God. I have never ready > anything, however, that said Flansburgh was of the same persuasion. My gut > says he's not. My admittedly weak reasons for this are the number of > "holiday" themed songs he's done ("Christmas Cards," "Santa's Beard," > "Careless Santa," etc.) and that line in "Puppet Head" about seeing you in > church. Of course, Linnell participated in almost all of those songs too, > so, who knows? > > -- > Shaun > www.tmbg.cc > > > ------------------------------ End of tmbg-list Digest #43-20 ******************************