Errors-To: owner-tmbg-digest@tmbg.org Reply-To: tmbg-digest@tmbg.org Sender: owner-tmbg-digest@tmbg.org Precedence: bulk From: owner-tmbg-digest@tmbg.org To: tmbg-digest@tmbg.org Subject: tmbg-list Digest, Volume 43, Number 26 tmbg-list Digest, Volume 43, Number 26 Thursday, 26 July 2001 Topics: Re: TMBG: Re: tmbg-list Digest #43-24 TMBG: Weird DAS / Hacked DAS / etc... DAS RE: TMBG: Re: tmbg-list Digest #43-24 Re:TMBG: Dial-A-Song hackers - was Re: weird das Re:TMBG: Dial-A-Song hackers - was Re: weird das TMBG: DAS mysery solved Re[2]:TMBG: Dial-A-Song hackers - was Re: weird das Re: TMBG: DAS mysery solved Re[2]: TMBG: DAS mysery solved Re: TMBG: DAS mysery solved TMBG: The fake DAS thing... TMBG: What the heck is on dial a song? Re: Re[2]: TMBG: DAS mysery solved TMBG: On the Bricks Question / Cake Re: TMBG: On the Bricks Question / Cake Re:TMBG: What the heck is on dial a song? TMBG: TMBG Documentary Re: TMBG: TMBG Documentary TMBG: DAS.com TMBG: Re: DAS.com Administrivia: For all administrative issues, such as change of address, withdrawal from the list, etc., send a message to the following address: ÁÁowner-tmbg-digest@tmbg.org The views expressed herein are those of the individual authors. tmbg-list is compiled with Digest 3.7b (John Relph ). ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2001 01:24:12 -0700 From: "Bryan T, Hoerber" Subject: Re: TMBG: Re: tmbg-list Digest #43-24 Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20010725012345.00ab7600@mail.aviationpage.com> I'm homosexual and wasn't offended. /me *shrugs* At 08:58 PM 7/24/2001, you wrote: > > > >I would rather have people know that I was gay and jewish before > >they started thinking of me as a christian. > > > >Nice attitude to take. Real open-minded. You've managed to offend >Christians (of which I am one), homosexuals, and Jewish people. Way to >go. > >Mike >-- >"If the police find I've been operating a prisoner of war camp >without a license, I'll get arrested!"--Siegfried, "Get Smart" >My site: http://lavender.fortunecity.com/fullmonty/22/mywebpage.htm ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2001 01:28:09 -0700 From: "Bryan T, Hoerber" Subject: TMBG: Weird DAS / Hacked DAS / etc... DAS Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20010725012453.00a6edd8@mail.aviationpage.com> Someone wanted to know if it is possible to hack an answering machine. It depends on the machine honestly. In interviews I have heard, Flans said that they still use a machine for DAS. Also knowing my local bell company they are very stubborn moving a phone number from one place to another so it may still be in that apartment if DAS has been the same phone number all along. A local call to Brooklyn or free from work. But the machine has probably been upgraded and depending on what machine type it is yes it can be hacked or no it can't. I will not get into the specifics on how to hack an answering machine. It is quite simple in some cases but I would rather not share that info because well I don't want this to happen again. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2001 07:25:45 -0400 From: "Adam Piontek" Subject: RE: TMBG: Re: tmbg-list Digest #43-24 Message-ID: > -----Original Message----- > From: Mike Thompson > Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2001 11:59 PM > > >I would rather have people know that I was gay and jewish before > >they started thinking of me as a christian. > > Nice attitude to take. Real open-minded. You've managed to offend > Christians (of which I am one), homosexuals, and Jewish people. Way to > go. Given the use of the words "know" and "think", I took this to mean "I would rather have people [*]know[*] that I was [whatever I truly am] before they started [*]thinking[*] of me as [something I am not]." Maybe that's completely wrong and/or I just don't know the context because I didn't read the previous post or most of this thread, but if I'm not, it seems like an understandable desire. To wish that people would know your reality before they stamp you with a assumption of their own. -Adam _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2001 12:25:40 -0400 From: karinh@sterl.com Subject: Re:TMBG: Dial-A-Song hackers - was Re: weird das Message-ID: <2881158168@sterl.com> Hey, I wonder if They possibly let these guys have a day on DAS. They could be some obscure little Ohio garage band trying to make their mark on the world, & maybe They are acting as sort of e-mentors. Ya never know. I can't call the # yet, I don't think Ohio would be free if you call from work, in my case. Anybody who's called - - Are they any good? At all?? Judging by their name: "Particle Men & the Voice of Reason" (not a bad name, btw) they might be fans, or wanna-be's, or even devotees. I don't think we should decide they suck just because they hacked into DAS & peed on TMBG's tree. They might possibly be any good. If they suck, we'll know it soon enough. Anybody whO's called the number, input?? Karin H ** FREE THE EXPO 67 ** ____________________Reply Separator____________________ Subject: TMBG: Dial-A-Song hackers - was Re: weird das Author: "Marcus B" Date: 07/24/01 11:31 PM The number repeated at the beginning is for "Dial A Song 2" some lame DAS clone.. geez.. the number repeated at the beginning is 1 330 376 7106.. call up and complain and get the REAL DAS back for the good old songs! The website is http://www.angelfire.com/realm/pmvr These people SUCK. Marcus ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2001 13:44:36 -0400 (EDT) From: Kevin Keeler Subject: Re:TMBG: Dial-A-Song hackers - was Re: weird das Message-ID: On Wed, 25 Jul 2001 karinh@sterl.com wrote: > yet, I don't think Ohio would be free if you call from work, in my case. "free" as in work pays for it, I think they mean. ;) So unless you're self-employed (or the boss) (or working for some super-draconian slave-driver who deducts LD fone calls from your pay), "free" it shall be! ÁÁ--kevin ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2001 13:47:41 EDT From: Kaylum@aol.com Subject: TMBG: DAS mysery solved Message-ID: <79.180230de.2890603d@aol.com> Someone posted this today on the tmbg.org web board: apparently i was rattling off to the usuallly -by the end of the song- disconnected DAS machine (dont know why just do) and it actually recorded somehow and that got on DAS just so no hot flames may come my way, this was NOT NOT NOT intentional, and don't know how it even got on there like that. I would swear my life on it (if it was worth anything) but since its not your just going to have to believe what I say. Im sure im not the only one talking to the DAS machine, weather before, after, or during the song (or at least singing along:) how? dunno. I called from work as usual at about midnight or so Tuesday (morning) got an email from someone who heard, and went to the site to email me, and said the link was on DAS, didnt know exactly what she meant till I heard it for myself. Geesh. ::shoots self in head and goes to sleep:: and whoever it was (i know your on here) who signed the PMVR FanBook on the site, you need to lay off unless you know the facts. and why not send me an email or something with your name on it, cant you be man/woman enough? thats all i have to say. my 2 cents to clear the air, before this board goes in kahoots about it PMVR ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2001 18:09:08 From: "John Ferrer" Subject: Re: TMBG: DAS mysery solved Message-ID: Possibility: It seems weird that if he was just talking, it somehow erased the existing message. But maybe they set it up wrong last time somehow (no clue what I'm talking about here, bear with me) and it somehow just picked up what he was saying when the song was over as a message. Then maybe the Johns heard it, thought it was funny, and just put it up? I just can't help feeling that it wasn't just somebody talking during a song and that did so much. But on the other hand, didn't someone say that he says "I don't know if this will work, but..." or something to that effect? I'm too poor to call, so I don't know. But if he said that, that sounds sort of intentional. I don't know why he'd post that message, but oh well. And has anybody tried calling and talking like he says he did? If it's not fixed yet, it seems like the same problem would hold true...maybe... And if all else fails, someone e-mail Dot. >From: Kaylum@aol.com >Reply-To: Kaylum@aol.com >To: tmbg-list@tmbg.org >Subject: TMBG: DAS mysery solved >Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2001 13:47:41 EDT > >Someone posted this today on the tmbg.org web board: > >apparently i was rattling off to the usuallly -by the end of the song- >disconnected DAS machine (dont know why just do) and it actually recorded >somehow and that got on DAS just so no hot flames may come my way, this was >NOT NOT NOT intentional, and don't know how it even got on there like that. >I >would swear my life on it (if it was worth anything) but since its not your >just going to have to believe what I say. Im sure im not the only one >talking >to the DAS machine, weather before, after, or during the song (or at least >singing along:) how? dunno. I called from work as usual at about midnight >or >so Tuesday (morning) got an email from someone who heard, and went to the >site to email me, and said the link was on DAS, didnt know exactly what she >meant till I heard it for myself. Geesh. ::shoots self in head and goes to >sleep:: and whoever it was (i know your on here) who signed the PMVR >FanBook >on the site, you need to lay off unless you know the facts. and why not >send >me an email or something with your name on it, cant you be man/woman >enough? >thats all i have to say. my 2 cents to clear the air, before this board >goes >in kahoots about it PMVR > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2001 14:26:44 -0400 From: karinh@sterl.com Subject: Re[2]: TMBG: DAS mysery solved Message-ID: <2036260049@sterl.com> John Ferrer sez: >But maybe they set it up wrong last time somehow (no clue what I'm talking about here, bear with me) and it somehow just picked up what he was saying when the song was over as a message. Then maybe the Johns heard it, thought it was funny, and just put it up? I just can't help feeling that it wasn't just somebody talking during a song and that did so much. > Well, isn't that basically what happened with that famous message that made it onto an album? That was even weirder, two people talking to each other after the songs ended, the whole conversation got recorded. It was a classic, maybe the Johns thought it would be fun to try it again & see what they caught. Either it was on purpose, or They have never replaced the machine in all this time. Which, come to think of it, I wouldn't put past them.... Karin H ** FREE THE EXPO 67 ** ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2001 14:30:19 -0400 From: "Marcus B" Subject: Re: TMBG: DAS mysery solved Message-ID: <9jn38k$2h27$1@ussenterprise.ufp.org> Organization: They Might Be Giants, Unofficially http://www.tmbg.org > But on the other hand, didn't someone say that he says "I don't know if this > will work, but..." or something to that effect? I'm too poor to call, so I > don't know. But if he said that, that sounds sort of intentional. I don't > know why he'd post that message, but oh well. He says at one part: "ok ok? what kind of machine do you use? hmm like mines on my computer and I can't get it to work right" His DAS clone works on a program called WillowMEDIA.. he could be mumbling to himself, however, he does realize it's recording almost immediately, and he repeats his DAS fake # at the beginning twice.. I'm sure he did something on purpose :-/.. Marcus ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2001 12:44:29 -0600 From: "Nicholas Wolf" Subject: TMBG: The fake DAS thing... Message-ID: Someone record that and post it somewhere? I'd like to hear his message, but I'm too poor to call. :) Signed, ÁÁNicholas Wolf ÁÁTMBG Ambassador to the State of New Mexico ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2001 16:40:25 -0400 From: "D.V. Caputo" Subject: TMBG: What the heck is on dial a song? Message-ID: hmm....today,when calling dial-a-song,and instead of the usual song or two, I get this strange message of some guy who starts saying some number,as well as a website;odd,really....does dial-a-song still record things,or is this a previous recording;or,is it just one of the Johns? I have no idea.... what is this? -D.V. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2001 20:51:34 From: "John Ferrer" Subject: Re: Re[2]: TMBG: DAS mysery solved Message-ID: >Well, isn't that basically what happened with that famous message that made >it onto an album? That was even weirder, two people talking to each other >after the songs ended, the whole conversation got recorded. It was a >classic, maybe the Johns thought it would be fun to try it again & see what >they caught. Either it was on purpose, or They have never replaced the >machine in all this time. Which, come to think of it, I wouldn't put past >them.... Yeah, that's what I meant. It's happened before, so it could easily happen again. But if it's never been fixed, surely they've picked up something before, and this doesn't really sound like something so funny that the Johns would do it again. And it sounds like maybe the guy was actually trying to talk to the Johns if he asked what kind of machine they were using, and told them what he was using. That sounds like the useless chatter that frequently comes out of the mouths of creepy fanatics, including mine. And maybe that's why he plugged his site, so the Johns would take a look, and why he asked if it was working, because he didn't know if it would pick it up or not. Looking back at what I just wrote, I really have no clue why I'm even bothering to analyze this so much. Maybe Flans will explain in the next Unlimited or somewhere. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2001 20:57:57 From: "John Ferrer" Subject: TMBG: On the Bricks Question / Cake Message-ID: I don't know anywhere else to ask this, so for anyone who saw TMBG at the Centennial Park On the Bricks show in Atlanta, I have a question. I missed TMBG, but now I'm going to try to go see Cake this Friday night at the same series. What's the deal with getting a good spot? Do I need to be there right when the gates open, three and a half hours before Cake performs, or does the crowd disperse between acts? I have no idea what to expect, but I'll be leaving something important, so I'd like to go as late as humanly possible. And for anyone who got suckered into having to read this message which was totally irreverent to you, then if you have 15 bucks and don't want it, get rid of it by buying the new Cake album. It's freakin' great, and yes, you CAN quote me that! _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2001 17:10:29 -0400 From: "Bill Seybolt" Subject: Re: TMBG: On the Bricks Question / Cake Message-ID: I was there right at 6PM and easily made it to the front of the stage. It all depends on how close you want to get. I wouldn't wait much later than before the second act goes on. This event has been drawing a ton of folks every Friday night. BTW: Plan on it raining at least sometime that evening. It has every week since it started. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2001 17:15:18 -0400 From: karinh@sterl.com Subject: Re:TMBG: What the heck is on dial a song? Message-ID: <140868614@sterl.com> Have you been reading any of the posts to the list today? It's been being discussed, pondered, speculated about and autopsied all day. Waayyy too late in the day to do the whole thing justice... Check your backlog of messages, or, if you don't have them, sign up for the digest for tonight and get them all in one easy-to-carry bundle. Karin H ** FREE THE EXPO 67 ** ____________________Reply Separator____________________ Subject: TMBG: What the heck is on dial a song? Author: D.V. Caputo Date: 07/25/01 4:40 PM hmm....today,when calling dial-a-song,and instead of the usual song or two, I get this strange message of some guy who starts saying some number,as well as a website;odd,really....does dial-a-song still record things,or is this a previous recording;or,is it just one of the Johns? I have no idea.... what is this? -D.V. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2001 16:41:22 -0500 From: ":: julie ::" Subject: TMBG: TMBG Documentary Message-ID: A feature length documentary on the band is being made by AJ Schnack, who has produced videos for Blink-182, 311, Papa Roach, and TMBG. A live performance will be filmed Aug. 5 in Brooklyn, N.Y., in front of an audience of about 400 fans, with proceeds to be donated to a local animal shelter). In addition, the documentary team is seeking home movies, photos, and videos of the band from throughout its career. Anyone who believes they have material that should be considered is encouraged to E-mail tmbgdocu@yahoo.com. this and more fun stuff at: http://www.billboard.com/billboard/daily/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id= 965614 Julie styloroc.net aim - sparklerock icq - 21324220 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2001 22:51:02 From: "John Ferrer" Subject: Re: TMBG: TMBG Documentary Message-ID: Ugh. Something tells me we're going to end up with a poster advertising in gigantic letters "From the man who brought you videos by Blink-182, 311, and Papa Roach." Of course, something also tells me I won't be seeing the poster anywhere near me, but it doesn't mean I can't be bothered by it. >From: ":: julie ::" >Reply-To: ":: julie ::" >To: >Subject: TMBG: TMBG Documentary >Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2001 16:41:22 -0500 > >A feature length documentary on the band is being made by AJ Schnack, who >has produced videos for Blink-182, 311, Papa Roach, and TMBG. A live >performance will be filmed Aug. 5 in Brooklyn, N.Y., in front of an >audience >of about 400 fans, with proceeds to be donated to a local animal shelter). >In addition, the documentary team is seeking home movies, photos, and >videos >of the band from throughout its career. Anyone who believes they have >material that should be considered is encouraged to E-mail >tmbgdocu@yahoo.com. > >this and more fun stuff at: >http://www.billboard.com/billboard/daily/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id= >965614 > > >Julie > >styloroc.net >aim - sparklerock >icq - 21324220 > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2001 00:15:44 EDT From: CallMeDoctorWorm@aol.com Subject: TMBG: DAS.com Message-ID: I know this has come up before, but when I go to dialasong.com, all I get is clicks and stuff. why does this happen? why me? Doc Rick Worm TMBG Ambassador to Ohio Nothing clever to say. ------------------------------ End of tmbg-list Digest #43-26 ******************************