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          tmbg-list Digest, Volume 65, Number 23

                  Friday, 29 August 2003

Today's Topics:

  TMBG: Re: Re: Re: My Man... Gently down the stream....
RE: TMBG: Re: Re: Re: My Man... Gently down the stream....

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From: "Olaf" <Rabidium@hotmail.com>
Subject: TMBG: Re: Re: Re: My Man... Gently down the stream....
Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2003 19:41:46 -0700
Message-ID: <000101c36dd7$16f05030$ebf02f04@olafp0d413sb8n>

Hi TMBG-erinos!

> I do agree with Olaf,

Woohoo!

> it is one of JL depressed mood songs
> like Self Called Nowhere, Hopeless Bleak Despair, and
> Montana.  Which I all like a lot!

Yeah, don't get me wrong. Those are some of my favorite songs of his
too. I know just how he feels. Those songs speak to me more than any of
the other types I think. I wonder if we could pull a Linneas and break
the Johns' songs into Class/Genus/Species?

> I am not sure if the concerns on
> the songs on MC as not being polished are as much the issue
> as the song selection.  I think if they would have taken some
> of the best songs from They Got Lost and combine them with
> the best from MC, IMHO, it would be one of their all-time
> best albums.

Well, the only qualifying tracks I can think of on the disc are Dr.
Worm, an excellent though very strange piece, and The original (*Better)
First Kiss, and it'd be odd to have two both on one disc. What others
would fit? Or did you mean do a disk that's half old stuff half new or
something? I personally think Mink Car is quite good, I've recommended
it to a bunch of people who used to listen to TMBG but got lost along
the way. They think it's an excellent album. I think this disk is the
Johns' way of recapturing some of the sound that made them commercial in
the first place. Many other bands have eroded into the classic TMBG
sound (I'm looking at you, Weezer) and TMBG had grown away from it on JH
and especially FS. I think for the mainstream listener, this is almost a
return to form. I think most mainstream listeners could have done
without Fang or Mr. X, but it's still a disc that mostly satisfies for
the casual listener. If anything, I'd say it could be considerably
shorter omitting those two and switching around the track order if they
were really going for that casual crowd. And some of the songs are
overly simple, and feel very skippable after a few listens, at least for
me. I'm thinking of Bangs, which grew stale on about listen 3 and
MISLIH, which only went about 10. I'm not even going to mention Older.
Or the fact that they lengthened it. Oy. Anyway, this rambling paragraph
is mostly just to say that I think it's a pretty decent album, for the
market they were aiming at. It is more adult, it is more mainstream
(mostly), and it definitely hits closer to the old sound than they have
in years. If I hadn't loaned it to someone who just had a kid (I can't
say "Hey, nice Baby! Can I have my CD back?") I'd be listening to it
right now.

Oh, and for anyone who got pissed off by the Fountains of Wayne
discussion earlier this summer, I must admit the CD's grown on me, and
it's in my CD player right now. Sorry 'bout all the vitriol, it's a good
disk, you all should go pick it up.
And While I'm recommending, Sondre Lerche is a Norwegian kid with an
amazing sense of Melody, you should check out his disc, Faces Down.
-Rabidium
-Olaf
(I'm in transition, like you remember when GTE became Verizon, or when
California became Hell?)

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From: "selfcallednowhere@houston.rr.com" <selfcallednowhere@houston.rr.com>
Subject: RE: TMBG: Re: Re: Re: My Man... Gently down the stream....
Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2003 23:13:34 -0400

> Well, the only qualifying tracks I can think of on the disc are Dr.
> Worm, an excellent though very strange piece, and The original (*Better)
> First Kiss

I think you're confusing They Got Lost with Severe Tire Damage.

--Quinn

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